I like being a Denver Bronco, but the choice is not up to me whether I stay. I’ve proven myself...

I like being a Denver Bronco, but the choice is not up to me whether I stay. I’ve proven myself every year that I have been in the NFL, and I don’t have a problem doing that here or anywhere else."

Sources: Denver Broncos tried to trade OL Ryan Harris in 2010 - KDVR

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Was it during or after the McD era?

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Feb 17, 2011 9:54 PM MST reply actions

during

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by KaptainKirk on Feb 17, 2011 9:58 PM MST up reply actions

Article says after Week 5 of last season

With the #2 pick in the NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select the BPAOD.
www.worthingtonjohn.com

by Worthington on Feb 17, 2011 10:00 PM MST up reply actions

Ah, cool. Thanks.

I didn’t see the link until after I commented.

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by Troy Hufford on Feb 17, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions

Well it can't be after

seeing as the nfl trade deadline is week 6 :P

And now for something completely different

by AlbertaBronc on Feb 17, 2011 11:00 PM MST up reply actions

No telling what other bone headed crapola McD was up to...

Guys this is only the stuff we’ve found out about. What dark nefarious goings on are we never going to know about? I shudder in my underpants just thinking about it.

We’re in better hands.

by Jezru on Feb 17, 2011 11:17 PM MST up reply actions

look at all the teams that were mentioned as being talked to, all ZBS teams. He’s a great ZBS RT, so I think if we truly are committed to going back there, we’ll keep Harris. I personally don’t see an upgrade in FA, and I don’t want to waste a draft pick on an RT early instead of easily resigning a guy who wants to be here

Changing my sig again lol. Reports are saying Denver loves Bowers, but I really hope not. I have a lot of question marks on this guy. I'm personally hoping Denver chooses between PP and Fairley, but insiders are saying differently.

by DBroncs1414 on Feb 17, 2011 10:01 PM MST reply actions 1 recs

Nice point, I mentione d the scheme thing on the other post

Harris was injured at the time and didn’t really fit the scheme. He thrived in ZB scheme as a rookie in ‘08. His monetary value can’t be huge after only having one really good season. I once estimated it at $7M per year, but I’ll bet that it’s a lot less now. The fact that he said he hopes to know his future in the next week or two means he’s expecting to be released or signed. I know that sounds simple, but it likely means an actual decision is forth coming.

I agree that we should sign him, especially if we get a good discount due to his lack of recent production and his injuries. Plus, it helps that no teams pulled the trigger on a trade and that he’s not allowed to talk to other teams. All signs point to a good price, IMO. So hopefully we keep him.

by Rodney A on Feb 17, 2011 10:07 PM MST up reply actions

Great point DBroncs

I think all of our lineman are better siuted for the ZB scheme. The Ryans were solid in this scheme. It will be interesting to see how walton and beadles transition to the new scheme.

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by Albuquerque on Feb 17, 2011 10:30 PM MST up reply actions

Off topic

But I tried to go back into the transcript of Elway’s presser to see what exactly, word for word he said on Harris. Surprisingly, it looks like the PR people removed the quote on Harris in the transcript. I liked how frank Elway was on the issues, but it seemed like maybe the comment on Harris was a press conference gaffe during Elway’s first day on the job.

With the #2 pick in the NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select the BPAOD.
www.worthingtonjohn.com

by Worthington on Feb 17, 2011 10:06 PM MST reply actions

I never got to hear that press conference..

I’ve often wondered exactly what you were wondering… what were his words. So often we have people almost annoyingly parroting Elway saying, “Elway said” and over half the time they mis-characterize and over simplify and mis-quote in order to support a point.

Guess that’s a long way of saying, if you find it let me know… I’d love to watch it or read it.

by Rodney A on Feb 17, 2011 10:10 PM MST up reply actions

Wow so this is very strange

I decided to rewatch the video to transcribe the actual quote on Harris. Not only does the transcript not include the comments on Ryan Harris, but neither does the video of the press conference that is on denverbroncos.com.

The video doesn’t seem to cut or jump at any point, but the video is in two parts, and the Harris question could have been in between the two parts. I think this is highly likely because the question at the end of part 1 is asking Elway to evaluate the talent currently on the roster, and the question at the start of part 2 is unrelated. I went back through the open thread we had during the press conference to see if there were comments about Ryan Harris that would have shown at what time the comments came up during the press conference. But no one said anything about Harris! It’s like the comments never existed!

The Denver Post posted an article summarizing Elway’s comments. The summary follows roughly in chronological order, and the comment

Elway sounded like he believed he’d be looking for a replacement in the draft or free agency for right tackle Ryan Harris, who stabilized the offensive line and protected Tebow’s blind side but will be a free agent.

would fall right into where the video cuts between Part 1 and Part 2.

I don’t want to start a conspiracy, but it feels like I’m taking crazy pills! Elway made some really big statements on Harris, right? If I remember correctly, it was something along the lines of, “were going to go ahead and allow Harris to test Free Agency.” But it looks like the Broncos PR staff inadvertently or intentionally removed those comments from their releases and videos.

Am I going crazy?

Also: you can find Elway’s press conference video here and the transcript of what he said here.

With the #2 pick in the NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select the BPAOD.
www.worthingtonjohn.com

by Worthington on Feb 17, 2011 11:32 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs

haha I couldnt tell ya

I never saw it. Are we sure it wasn’t said in a different interview? Anyway, thanks for the reply and all that work looking stuff up. I’m going to watch it now.

by Rodney A on Feb 18, 2011 12:16 AM MST up reply actions

It wasn't in his press conference,

I watched it live. I hear people say that Elway said something about trading/cutting Harris, but I don’t know there source.

Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.

by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Feb 18, 2011 12:33 AM MST up reply actions

Elway Did Say It

Worthington, you are not going crazy. I watched the entire Elway presser, and Elway said the Broncos would be looking for a replacement for Harris. It now appears the Broncos have obviously backed off from that position, however.

by RSH089 on Feb 18, 2011 7:05 AM MST up reply actions

I swear he said it too.....maybe they will sign Harris. I like him.

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by boydy2669 on Feb 18, 2011 7:09 AM MST up reply actions

the foilhat didnt see the presser

but believes in conspiracies

IMO

by Foilhat on Feb 18, 2011 8:42 AM MST up reply actions

Yes, he said it

I don’t remember the exact wording, but I remember it being an eyebrow raising statement. I remember thinking at the time, “wow, that’s a pretty bold statement to make in a press conference. Maybe he should have kept that behind closed doors.”

It’s definitely interesting that it’s been scrubbed from all record though.

tin-foil hat applied

by ten_fiver on Feb 19, 2011 1:45 AM MST up reply actions

My two cents:

We’re going to resign Harris. The dude is a gamer, he wants to be here, (and like DBroncs said above) there ain’t nobody cheaper/better in FA and we don’t have the picks to replace him in the draft. Every day the guy retweets fans that are imploring him to stay in denver (as well as asinine banter with Clady and Decker – but you take the good with the bad I guess – at least he’s not Lendale White).

I like the dude.

by Jezru on Feb 17, 2011 11:21 PM MST reply actions

this makes sense why he didnt play during this time!

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." - John Elway

by Pmoreno95 on Feb 17, 2011 11:41 PM MST via mobile reply actions

he wasnt injured he was in the Mcdoghouse!

Haha couldn’t resist.

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." - John Elway

by Pmoreno95 on Feb 17, 2011 11:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions

Resigning Harris is a must !!

Like has been said already can’t replace him with better talent in free agency and don’t have the draft picks to replace him and even if we did might not find one that is as good . Elway said they wanted to build this team through the draft ,well Harris is one of our own time to give the man a new and fair contract. I hate to think about this line being any good if you keep changing all of it’s parts. Hopefully the new line coach can get them playing as one .

by ultraclassic04 on Feb 17, 2011 11:45 PM MST reply actions

O-line

stability is a good thing, so let’s bring him back.

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by the new Bradfather on Feb 17, 2011 11:51 PM MST reply actions

The things Elway said were before we hired Fox and Magazu so Elway's statements were premature.

Maybe now we are reconsidering bringing him back on since he is very good in the ZBS. I would like it if we brought him back. I think our O-line can be very good next year if we do.

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by BroncoMath101 on Feb 18, 2011 12:04 AM MST reply actions

Why would they even consider trading the guy? There is noone available who is even close to his ability

by grumpa on Feb 18, 2011 12:20 AM MST reply actions

They can't trade him because he is a FA. They were considering letting him go test the market though.

I agree though. We’d have to draft his replacement and I think I’d rather just keep him.

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by BroncoMath101 on Feb 18, 2011 5:25 AM MST up reply actions

Probably the injury factored into it heavily

But there’s really no reason to let him go now unless it’s for an exorbitant price. He would get scooped up quickly. Why are we letting guys like that get away?

Napoleon McDaniels

by RockyMountainHigh on Feb 18, 2011 3:44 AM MST reply actions

There really isnt much of an upgrade to harris out there. Thats what happens when you try to get rid of a good player i guess.

by ShyandObese on Feb 18, 2011 8:47 AM MST reply actions

Keep Harris

Switch back to the ZBS, bring in DeAngelo Williams to team up with Moreno as our feature RB tandem, and hope LenDale White can pull it together to become our red-zone back. Even if it doesn’t work exactly that way, having D. Williams, White and even Buckhalter in camp to push Moreno for starting time can only be good for him. He will either wilt under the pressure or he will rise to the occasion and become worthy of his 1st round selection.

by TXBroncoFan on Feb 18, 2011 10:40 AM MST reply actions