REPORT: Denver Broncos To Hold Private Workout With QB Jake Locker
by John Bena on Mar 15, 2011 6:46 PM MDT
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PrintAccording to NFL.com's Jason LaConfora, the Broncos are one of three teams that will hold a private workout with Washington Huskie quarterback Jake Locker:
Jake Locker's private workouts are scheduled with Minnesota, Denver and Tennessee.
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According to LaConfora, the other two teams are the Minnesota Vikings and Tennessee Titans. Both of those teams, obviously, are in need of quarterbacks. The Broncos, one would think, are not in need of a quarterback with Kyle Orton, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn on the roster and all under 29 years old.
The Broncos, like most teams, should look at any player they might have interest in, regardless of position. News like this, however, is likely to cause a firestorm.
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BFSD will post a new mock with Locker in 5..4..3..2..1..
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by Nick Cast on Mar 15, 2011 6:48 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
WRONG - NICK - like usual
I don’t like Locker but this goes along with my thoughts that John Elway and John Fox are sold on either Orton or Tebow.
So my thoughts are confirmed and yours not so much.
by Broncosfansd on Mar 15, 2011 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions
hahaha
You’re not gonna make one of Locker but you made one of Newton and Gabbert.
Thank goodness your not a professional talent evaluator.
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OK NICK
Like you are – NOT
I am right on with my thoughts on Orton and Tebow. Orton is better QB than Tebow but Elway isn’t sold on either of them.
Hurts doesn’t it?
Say it
by Broncosfansd on Mar 15, 2011 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
this is a FORUM. I’m just giving my opinion.
Elway = RUNNING QB = Winner = Tim Tebow
I laugh at you when you get so upset LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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by Nick Cast on Mar 15, 2011 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Come on that's the worst logic I've seen here in a while
That’s DP logic. Come on Nick, don’t drop your IQ because of this. I’m pro-Tebow, but this is just laughable.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Mar 16, 2011 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Im just guessing here, but I think Nick is mimicing BFSD's usual response in these situations. He's not really serious (I think).
by Timimus on Mar 16, 2011 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dang
I was so sure people were going to know without a doubt I was just messing around.
Very disappointed that people thought I was actually serious…I thought my rep was better then that lol
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Like sadarine said
I remember BFSD’s Elway=Stanford=Luck. That what he’s referring to
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Get a grip
This is not a “Forum”…it is a blog. Ugh
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Actually, you are not...but I could not care less about football at the moment. denver can draft who ever the hell they want. We wont be playing ball in 2011 anyway!
FIRE DE MAURICE SMITH...he can go suck dog balls for all I care!
NFLPA??? National Fools and Lame Pricks Association!
ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT WE HAVE IN TEBOW? Watching Kyle orton is like watching re-runs of the Brady Bunch...you always know whats going to happen and makes you feel sick at the end!
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I don't know if this a confirmation of your opinion or a smoke screen
You have to evaluate every player on the board regardless of how you feel about the talent you have on your team. You think that Indianpolis, Green Bay, New Orleans and New England are not evaluating the top quarterbacks in this class? Ted Thompson and Bill Polian do their job and they do it damn well because they evaluate EVERYONE. They have both proved they are willing to take top talent regardless of who is on the roster and it has paid off pretty well.
Indy- Dwight Freeney on roster they draft Rasheen Mathis
GB- Brett Favre on the roster they draft Aaaron Rodgers.
Does this mean at that time those two clubs were not “SOLD” on the players talent? NO it means they saw an opportunity to draft what they saw as a franchise player and snagged them!
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by Jon Tollerud on Mar 16, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL you are beyond stupid if
you think bringing Locker in for a workout confirms your thoughts. This workout means nothing. Just because we bring a player in does not mean we have any intention of drafting him. It is called a smoke screen. You are not right about anything. The Fact is Elway and Fox have never given any indication that they are not sold on Orton or Tebow. You just like pick small portions of interviews to try and prove a point but fail to mention parts of interviews that prove you wrong. It happens every time Fox or Elway says anything about Tebow or Orton
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 15, 2011 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Broncosfansd has a different opinion than yours
That being said, I would not rate anyone who is a smart enough to be a regular at MHR as being “beyond stupid” for their opinion. That was a poor choice of words.
It could be that it isn’t a smoke screen. It may be that the Broncos management wants to look at all the players they consider good in case they drop in the draft. It may be good deal if he drops to the 6th round for example.
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by wyoeng on Mar 15, 2011 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Jake Locker dropped to the 6th round? WOW He is first round talent are you crazy?
Dos Equis!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BRONCOS
Well, he was a first round talent last year
I could be wrong, but I think from what he’s shown (or hasn’t) in his performances so far has him solidly in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Not a 2nd or 3rd round talent
Locker completed a little over half his passes last year as a senior. Pretty pedestrian. I think 6th round sounds about right for taking a flyer on the guy. The list of unemployed former NFL QBs is littered with guys with his physical attributes and stat line. Let someone else make that mistake.
by defender96 on Mar 16, 2011 12:45 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I meant doing due diligence in case a player goes into draft free-fall
Do I feel that Locker will drop to the 6th – No.
Am I OK with the Broncos doing their due diligence – Yes
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
I was referring to finding the MHR site and recognizing that it is award winning
It does not take much intelligence to be a Troll. I do not think Broncosfansd (or you for that matter) are a Troll.
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
I'm with you...
…BFSD often comes off as beyond stupid. The fact that he supports his opinions with whatever portion of an interview can be skewed to his opinion is beyond stupid. I really don’t think he gets it. I think he believes everything he reads and his sources are unreliable at best.
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by MTBroncosFan on Mar 16, 2011 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I guess we will agree to disagree
It appears that Broncosfansd has tried to put together an argument with some support. I do not agree with what Broncosfansd is stating about Broncos staff being unhappy with Orton, Tebow, and Quinn however. Several clubs would be happy with that lineup (Arizona, Buffalo, Vikings, etc.).
I still do not like the “beyond stupid” remark. It seems like a personal attack.
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
Fair enough
I think that for some of us he has really gotten under our collective skin. I suppose a remark like that is just feeding the beast anyways. At this point I think he is trying to ruffle feathers and I shouldn’t be baited into slinging mud.
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by MTBroncosFan on Mar 16, 2011 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions
That was litterally my first thought after reading the headline of this post
Dos Equis!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BRONCOS
So snarky
This may be a diversion move, if nothing else, you work a guy out with the intent of making other teams think you are interested in the guy, then trade back, get some picks, and get the guy they really want.
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The Tebow lovers are on terror alert 7 right now
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by Broncoman on Mar 16, 2011 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tebow however is working 8 hours a day to improve
and doesn’t have time to waste on who MAY be his replacement! He wants to Win games and is working that way.
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by Jon Tollerud on Mar 16, 2011 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Every player wants to win games
Come on, I’m in the Tebow camp, but thinking that other players don’t want to win, don’t work hard, or anything like that is almost annoying.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Mar 17, 2011 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Every player wants to win games but some players don't work as hard as other players and that is a fact.
People love this and love hearing about it because our last couple of “Team Leaders” at the QB position don’t seem to have the same drive. I’m not saying they don’t work hard but we’ve also never heard of them working this hard in the offseason. Why is that if they all do it?
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by BroncoMath101 on Mar 17, 2011 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions
That's just crap
Sure not all player work the same about to win, but to say that Tebow or some other player is just untouchable or that his work ethic is some new standard is outrageous. I’m sorry to tell you this, but for the past two seasons, Orton’s work ethic was considered one of the best on the team, actually in 2009 it was the best, and in 2010 is was mentioned as one of the best. So please, get some facts behind your bashing. I want Orton gone, but I don’t blindly attack him.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I never once said he was untouchable in his work ethic or that he's the only one who works out as hard as he does.
I’m also not blindly attacking Orton. I’m talking about drive. Orton works hard but even his coaches said he needs to spend more time working out in the offseason. They said he needed to work out more so that he could be better in the pocket. The brought in 2 QBs to light a fire under him. I’m not attacking Orton and saying he doesn’t work hard but I am saying Tebow works harder. The kid even runs sprints and is first while Orton walks them and laughs at him. Come on.
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by BroncoMath101 on Mar 17, 2011 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I think you misunderstand me
I realize everyone wants to win, I realize everyone puts in practice time. What I am saying here is that while we sit here and speculate the guy who drafting a QB really effects….doesn’t give two cents worth of cat piss. He is working hard to win a starting position so that regardless of what Denver does in the draft, he is ready to compete (and in his mind) win the starting job.
To address what you said- everyone plays to win yes and everyone works towards winning but what separates Tom Brady from Ryan Fitzpatrick? from a physical level Ryan is much better, from a mental perspective- Tom Brady gets it hands down. Why? because he works at it everyday. Game film throwing reps, walk-throughs you name it Tom probably does more than Ryan because he gets it. Tim to me is one of the guys who GETS IT and knows it doesn’t matter how physical or talented you are its all about the mental preparation!
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by Jon Tollerud on Mar 17, 2011 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Workout
Just a workout, no big deal. I honestly cant see the Broncos drafting a QB in the first or second round simply because of the needs on defense, especially if there is no agreement by then. I would eat my boxers after a 10 mile run, that’s how confident I am.
Here's to Tebow being the starter in 2011!
Odd
Locker is basically as much a project as Tebow, who at least has a few NFL starts under his belt. I don’t think his upside is any higher than Tebow’s. Maybe Elway has a soft spot for Pac-10 QBs who were also MLB prospects.
Hunh, I don't ever remember a Bronco named Nagurski...
Maybe we're using this as a smoke screen...
Make teams think we want Locker at 36. That way someone jumps on him in the first round instead of letting him fall and taking him later. If a team takes a qb, that likely means one more defensive player available when we pick.
by OrangeTexan on Mar 15, 2011 7:02 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Exactly, it's a stragetic move.
Similar to a chess game, you sometimes have to set your opponents up. That’s all this is folks. This just increased the value of the broncos first second round pick.
by tiderfootball09 on Mar 15, 2011 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't see the point.
I find it unlikely that any GM believes we actually have any real interest in Locker. I don’t see the point in wasting a workout visit on a position that isn’t even a top 10 need. This move just seems like it brings up more contention within the Denver locker room than throughout the league. Maybe Elway just wants the MSM to start talking about the Broncos more…
by SoCalBroncsFan on Mar 15, 2011 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly, your minds blown isn't it :p
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Mar 15, 2011 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions
lol...stupid phone...fat-fingered the key pad and hit enter by accident.
by OrangeTexan on Mar 15, 2011 8:58 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Ahhhhh! Your head asplode!
…going to homestarrunner.com now to play that game and read some strongbad emails.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Mar 16, 2011 2:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Here's an example:
Last year Josh McDaniels jumped back into the first round and took Tebow. McDaniels was criticized by many because folks felt we took Tebow too early. However, Josh got nervous because other teams like Buffalo and Jacksonville had expressed interest in Tebow. So, in the end, a first round pick went to a QB instead of another player. Buf and Jax drove up Tebow’s value.
What we may be doing now is driving up Locker’s value. Everything Elway and Fox have said to the media regarding our QB situation indicates (possibly, again, as a smoke screen) indicates that we’re not settled at QB. Collectively, this is the kind of thing that may make a team nervous enough to take locker early.
by OrangeTexan on Mar 15, 2011 8:38 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
or drive Orton's value down in the process...
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by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 15, 2011 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
but we were actually in the market for a QB. it would be silly to draft one this year.
I know new coaches may want their guy but Locker is easily 2 years away from starting for an NFL team. He has good intangibles and work ethic, is a great physical specimen but really lacks in the accuracy dept. Accuracy is definitely a must in the NFL and really helps the transition if you had great accuracy in college.
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by BroncoMath101 on Mar 15, 2011 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions
OT, I can sort of see your point, but this still doesn't make a whole lotta sense for the Broncos, IMO.
I can sort of see your view in that if we make it look like we’d take Locker with one of our 2nds, then somebody will jump us and take Locker and allow for the chance that one more person we’re really interested in can fall to us. I just think that’s a bit too Spy vs. Spy… comic-book like espionage. Plus, the scenarios seem a bit different.
Last year (and this year still), Buffalo and Jacksonville had a need for a QB and were strongly believed to be looking to get Tebow in the early 2nd. Denver was also in somewhat of a need for a QB and once McD got his Tebowner, had the ammo and motivation to move up to get him after trading back a couple times. Now, with our current QB predicament, I don’t see the need for the organization to even start sending out “smoke” like they have doubts about the two QB’s we still have. It’s counterproductive to any trade value Orton (or Tebow for that matter) currently has. The only person this seems to benefit is Locker.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Mar 16, 2011 3:15 AM MDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
My guess is that the Broncos don’t want to spend a No. 2 pick on a CB, and aren’t enamored with the D-line picks, so they are looking to move back and hopefully get other teams to think they would take Locker and get some picks in the process, my guess is that they are targeting SF, I think Harbaugh may be higher on this kid since he has seen him up close for three years and maybe the threat of us taking him will get him to bite.
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Really? Complete waste of time.
Locker looked real strong choking in the bowl game earlier this year.
This better be a ploy.
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Locker is much better than his stats say.
He played with absolutely zero talent at receiver and on the o-line at Washington. Which is why he struggled in the Holiday Bowl-his receivers couldn’t get open.
this
as a USC fan, I don’t like Locker.
but I respect the heck out of him.
He had NO help at Washington. Can anyone name his WR or his OL?
Probably not. None of them will make NFL rosters.
Put him on a team with Florida, Oklahoma, or Oregon’s talent level and he could have won numerous championships. Dude is talented.
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by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 15, 2011 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
and he played with absolutely horribly Ryan Leaf like accuracy in the pocket too.
I personally think he’ll be much better than Leaf but I also don’t think he’ll be ready to start for a while. At least Tebow was an accurate passer in college. It’s a lot harder to find ways to win when you are inaccurate.
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by BroncoMath101 on Mar 15, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
100% correct BroncoMath
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by The 3 Amigos on Mar 15, 2011 10:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like Jay Cutler
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Not really putting any weight on this
I am going with the “smokescreen” idea. Much, much bigger needs at this point.
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I don’t see the big deal. Teams work out players they may not be in position to draft. The Broncos like Locker and in case he drops to the 3rd round, they may take him. Also, in a few years, he might be available and the Broncos might have a need for another QB, so would have a good idea about him whether to trade/sign him when have a chance.
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or....
They are preparing for an Orton trade.
by Donkeylover on Mar 15, 2011 7:48 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Trying to light a fire under Tebow?
Ha!…as if it is necessary. Backup for Tebow so one could trade Orton?… Naw, why look at a second round QB so you can trade a proven QB for a second round pick. Unless Tebow really doesn’t have the coach’s backing (which I doubt), this should be some sore of smokescreen. However, I have trouble seeing Elway do this to a young QB (tebow) considering what Reeves did to him with T. Maddox when he (Elway) was an established QB. The whole thing is hard to figure.
or its as said all along that ORTON HAS TOLD THEM HE DOESNT WANT TO COMEBACK
Again if you were Orton in this exact situations would you willingly come back to it ? or would you say thanks but no thanks if Tims your guy just move me and we can go our separate ways .
This
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Nine million bucks
Orton will gladly come back if we’ll take him.
by OrangeTexan on Mar 15, 2011 10:35 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
What are his options
There are some around here that have an inflated opinion of Orton, inflated compared to GMs and NFL talent evaluators. With so many teams in need of a quarterback, if Orton was considered a good starting quarterback he would have already been traded. How fast to Cutler get moved? McNabb? Favre?. If a team had offered a second round pick he would already be gone.
In other words, all this “if you were Orton” stuff is bunk. Sure if we let him go, a team will pick him up, but how much must they think of him to risk losing him but not offering a second round pick?
by Keyworthpunch on Mar 16, 2011 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
How could he be traded with no CBA ? If anything you lack understanding of how the NFL actually works .
How come no QB has been traded then ? again your whole if Orton was valuable angle lacks understanding of the simple rules of the NFL.
Cutler ? Mcnabb ? Favre totally different situations ?
How do you know if a team had offered a second rd pick that he would already be gone ?
Its amazing how suddenly we have folks talking for Fox who they have no clue about and Elway who you have no work history to go on but you can declare what they will do.
by Hoopforia on Mar 16, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Doesn't bother me
Locker is a rocket armed quarterback who can scramble, has intangibles, and could go play professional baseball. Ringing a bell yet?
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I would much prefer us take Locker in the 2nd then Gabbert or Newton in the 1st.
Lockers worth the 36th, neither Newton or Gabbert are worth the 2nd, especially when you take into consideration our needs and the fact that starting qb is not one of them.
Still I think its a bad idea to draft a qb this year. Would much rather wait till next year if we must draft one.
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Mar 15, 2011 8:26 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Smoke Screen ... This means nothing
We are going defense in the first 3-4 rounds and if we for some stupid reason decide to go offense it will be on the line or TE
I think its a ploy so other teams will make a run on qb’s in the first round. And then we will have a better selection for our second pick. Good job by our staff.
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I'm not buying the smoke screen theory.
The draft has way too many variables to count on teams trading into the first round to grab a QB with hopes that defensive talent slips down to us in the second round.
I think there may be some validity to this workout. Locker was a star and lock top 10 pick if he declared for the 2010 draft. His stock has dropped significantly since then so Fox & Friends may honestly consider him as a ‘value’ Plan B in the second round if Plan A (Tebow) doesn’t work out.
I guess its probably a safe bet then that EFX will be attending Gabberts pro day
Since we’re looking at Locker. We were also at Newton’s pro day as well. Everyone just assumed we were their solely for Fairley though. Who knows what. Could use a little transparency right about now Elway lol.
Personally I think that they are just covering every possible option and looking at every possible prospect. That would technically be the smart thing to do. Still its interesting.
And now for something completely different
this means as much as
as the broncos not paying attention to peterson. guess which guy they want more?
I'm not sugarcoating this.
Disappointed in MHR...
Seems like every fan post I check the comments on anymore has trolling, bashing, and personal wars within the first couple of posts. Mostly the same couple of guys…
FELLAS! If there’s a troll, IGNORE him. Just move on, and never, ever, ever respond to his posts. Marginalize him.
A little more e-civility please….
by Rob Burson on Mar 15, 2011 9:29 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
amen bro
The personal vendettas are pretty lame.
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by broncosmontana on Mar 15, 2011 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 15, 2011 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
I am bad about taking one persons bait in particular. I will try to hold it in.
Fighting Foo With Every Post...
by MTBroncosFan on Mar 16, 2011 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions
This scares me. Honestly the smoke screen theory is NONSENSE.
We’re checking this guy out cuz we’re curious.
We’re more and more clearly NOT SOLD on Tebow.
If we like Locker at all (I kind of like him in the 2nd if he falls)… then we’ll either trade back and take him or draft a DT for our sure pick and see who falls to us …
Not Peterson if we like Locker. …semi logical conclusion.
DT is a must. We have to trade back or pick a DT if we’re interested in Locker….
This move says much.
Mostly that we don’y have faith (YET??) in Tebow.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
This smoke screen theory is nonsense
It would only work until teams start calling us and asking how much for Tebow. Once we start turning teams down, they are gonna realize we aren’t that interested in Locker.
The only way for the smoke screen to work would be to pretend to put Tebow on the trading block. Teams are only gonna believe we are interested in Locker if they know we aren’t sticking with Tebow. If the Broncos really are setting up a smoke screen, prepare for constant Tebow trade rumors over the next month or so.
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Mar 15, 2011 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
true but not happening without a cba
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 15, 2011 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions
true but only if the courts green light the lockout.
Most experts believe they won’t so that will mean there will be an offseason with trades and FA signings. This is expected to happen before the draft so there is a good chance we could trade him and/or Orton before the draft.
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Mar 15, 2011 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
It is not nonsense, and Locker is the lesser version of Tebow (resume) amd has the same negatives. Per scouts.
Example of the smokescreen: We drive up Lockers value and decide to trade back from 2 to gain more picks and by moving back say to 6-10 then someone looks to trade ahead of us taking locker and having a Defensive player fall 1 more pick to us.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Mar 15, 2011 10:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I completely agree with this possibility. It’s hard to say if you are correct but if I had to vote, I would vote for this. However, like I said, there is also the possibility that this new staff wants the opportunity to grade a QB together and go through that process, just in case we go that route in 2012. Working out Locker would give the staff an understanding of how each staff member evaluates QB’s, which is important.
Great point swg777
And I feel we let Timmy T roll this year and if it does not pan out then look to 2012 for a QB but we have to give him a shot to see what we have!
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Mar 15, 2011 10:19 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
i see your point but dont think our interest really ups Lockers value... it definately hurts KO's though.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 16, 2011 6:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly
If anyone thinks an NFL team will suddenly start thinking Locker must be better than they thought (cuz the Broncos worked him out privately), I have a bridge to sell you.
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
Not buying it Johnny
Why draft the lesser version of Tebow? Smoke and mirrors, good move though.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Mar 15, 2011 9:55 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
My thoughts...
This is a new staff that has not worked together. Call this a far-fetched theory but I believe they are working him out just to have the experience of grading out a QB. Possibly in preparation for 2012 or something else. After all, if we are working Locker out, why wouldn’t we also do Gabbert and Newton. I’m not reading into this.
i like this theory better than the one where we're not loving Tebow!
I also think we’re overlooking Locker’s cast a Wash…
it was bad.
+IMO opinion Locker is a better passes than Tebow.
(still. We Must draft defense)
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 16, 2011 6:35 AM MDT up reply actions
For my money, Locker is a third rounder, if not worse. Accuracy is crucial and he doesn’t have any. I saw him sail throws over WR’s heads countless times and that has nothing to do with poor WR’s. His completion percentage is a gigantic red flag. I am a west coaster Pac 12 fan too, and I put a lot of the blame on him. He looked lost.
I agree I don't like him either
but 3rd round? In this QB depraved league I gotta think someone takes a chance in the 2nd on him
If you reply to a comment/post/fanshot of mine, I will more likely then not respond to it, unless you come off like a d-bag.
by DBroncs1414 on Mar 15, 2011 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Agree swg777
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Mar 15, 2011 10:17 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't buy the smoke screen theory. There are way too many prospects to evaluate and we only have a certain number of players we can work out to be wasting that time making smoke screens
This is a legit visit because Locker has potential. his only big concern is his accuracy in the pocket. If that can be fixed then he can be a really good QB. He has 1st round talent and could be a good deal in rd 2. I personally don’t like it under our current circumstances on the defensive side of the ball but I also definitely wouldn’t be opposed to Locker backing up Tebow under different circumstances. They are intrigued by this guy, plain and simple.
All the people using the BPA argument for taking Peterson at #2 should be on board with taking Locker in rd 2 because he may very well be BPA when we pick there. Personally I hope we are just doing due diligence and trade with a team that wants him.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
Sorry BPA does not apply to QB when:
You have the better version, drafted the QB 1st round one year before and they are the SAME style of QB with same negatives to work on. It is not like CB, RB or WR where you can play them together. We are not taking Locker and if so I would be really disappointed in the FO decision making. If you wanted a pure pocket passer than I could understand. Locker would be an aweful pick in 1st or 2nd round.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Mar 15, 2011 10:16 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey I agree that it would be an awful pick. I'm just tired of hearing BPA for Peterson when
we also have the better version already. Even if we can play them together it doesn’t really fit a need. I’ll stop hijacking the post now and making it about Peterson :)
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
by BroncoMath101 on Mar 16, 2011 6:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Sorry Tebowites - this isn't a smoke screen.
Elway isn’t sold on either QB. Tebow might have to change positions to RB/FB
by Broncosfansd on Mar 15, 2011 10:26 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Whatever......has your argument got old yet?
FIRE DE MAURICE SMITH...he can go suck dog balls for all I care!
NFLPA??? National Fools and Lame Pricks Association!
ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT WE HAVE IN TEBOW? Watching Kyle orton is like watching re-runs of the Brady Bunch...you always know whats going to happen and makes you feel sick at the end!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
You are alone I think in your vision
of Tebow being a FB/RB. You will be able to gloat big time if you are right. Don’t get to cocky though, you’re not.
If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.
Actually
Tebow might have to change teams.
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
Just the fact that they are looking
implies one (if not more) of the QBs who are currently on the Broncos will be moved.
If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.
Pfft
All smoke and mirrors my friends. Tebow is the future of the Broncos.
by Bentley.Ketchum on Mar 15, 2011 10:42 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Assessment.
That’s all they’re doing.
A. They know the majority of trades during the draft are for QBs. They’ve looked and talked with Newton and Gabbert at the combine and Newton’s Pro Day. Assessing whether or not a team will move up to #2 for them. Now they want to do the same with Locker as 2nd round trade down potential.
B. They can’t work with Tebow right now, so as a group the fly Locker in to break down his game and the similarities of the two. Also just get the feel for what they all want in a QB. Get on the same page. You never know, in the future it may be valuable information.
If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.
by Digger24 on Mar 15, 2011 10:53 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
A post that makes sense
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"Leadership is like porn, you know it when you see it. In this case, Tebow is a pornstar."
-BroncoPH
Who is this replying to?
The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.
by Troy Hufford on Mar 15, 2011 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks digger. I just opened up the thread, so I haven't been able to monitor the ebb and flow of this conversation. The reply button was invented for a reason.
Nevermind. I’ll step out. I’m clearly out of my element. lol
The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.
by Troy Hufford on Mar 15, 2011 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions
He's just being his normal troll self
“Elway doesn’t believe in Tebow”
“Tebow should just be a RB”
Blah blah blah.
I hear more meaningful things when my crap hits the toilet.
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"They said I couldn't be a high school quarterback, they said I couldn't get a D1 scholarship. You're not good enough, you're not skilled enough. They said I couldn't win a heisman. They said I couldn't win a national championship. They said I wouldn't be a first round draft pick. They said I couldn't play in the league. Appreciate that." - Tim Tebow.
then why constantly reply to him?
Let his comments collect dust.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 16, 2011 6:37 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
LMAO
I may have to use this in my signature
I hear more meaningful things when my crap hits the toilet.
Love it!
Fighting Foo With Every Post...
by MTBroncosFan on Mar 16, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed, that is a hilarious comment from Nick!
"It is our attitude at the beginning of a difficult task which, more than anything else, will affect its successful outcome." - William James
by FloridaFan62 on Mar 18, 2011 6:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Due Diligence
I’m sure they are keeping all options open. I like Tebow and hope he stays but I honestly don’t think you schedule a private workout with someone unless you have some sort of interest (even small) in them.
If he had come out last year, Jake Locker would’ve been a top 10 pick. I’m sure they want to have their bases covered when the guy might be there in the second round.
I’ve loved watching Tebow. He’s an exciting, good hearted guy who’s easy to cheer for. I think he could be a great quarterback in this league. Unfortunately, none of us are privy to the opinions at Dove Valley about him or any other player (except for maybe the recently extended Champ Bailey). I guess we’ll all find out in a few months.
Go Broncos
Though I do tend to agree
that Locker is another mobile quarterback with accuracy issues.
BFSD.......
You can’t have it both ways. First you said that Orton is our QB and Elway likes him. Now you are saying that Elway does not like Orton and he is not our QB. I realize that it is easy to have it both ways on the internet but I will call B.S. on that all day. There is nothing to read into regarding the workout of Locker. Period.
Wow!!!!
JUst wow. What if the Broncos are serious about Locker? I am sure he would not be their first rounder, but a second? Why not?
Peeps around here get all bent out of shape because this sort of “look see” threatens their “plans” for Tebow. Fug that. people. I want the Broncos to draft the players they think can help them win. If Tebow is not impressing anyone, then get some competition and see what happens. That’s what the game is all about. Don’t give me that conspiracy crap. Develop an open mind, for crying out loud….
by Gulbrand on Mar 15, 2011 11:27 PM MDT reply actions 9 recs
+1
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 16, 2011 6:39 AM MDT up reply actions
So many points here
First off, we keep talking about how the new FO and HC are all about transparency, so either they use smoke screen, like every coach in the history of the NFL, or they use pure transparency. Either way, it doesn’t matter, because coaches and FO guys will never be totally open with fans. So fans, make up your mind, because all this flip flop on smoke screen versus transparency is getting old.
Secondly, by John posting this over any other workout news, like how we didn’t see Miller work out, or the countless other pieces of news, he’s creating a situation that will spark debate. By picking and choosing front page news in terms of who we see work out, he’s able to generate views. That’s why he didn’t post something like this for Miller, or some other player we did see that was odd.
Lastly, this is just a workout, while it’s more then a pro day, it isn’t a lock one way or another.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Mar 16, 2011 12:11 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
The spirit of interest here is amazing
Talk about the passion, and competitiveness. There may be no draft at this point, so us die hard competitive fans cant wait to debate. Fun to watch and read, though lately it’s becoming tiring, lazy, and repetitive.
on transparency
The popular view on transparency is that the Broncos are being more open with their fans. I do not fully agree. While we’ve gotten some insights from #7, mostly this “transparency” has done more to remove the media types as the middle-men. Frankly, I prefer getting my info from Elway than Schefter (one of the better) or anyone else. But I certainly don’t mistake hearing from Elway as some sort of insider information. The media is spinning it as transparency because the truth kinda sux for them!
stuck between Jets and Patriots fans in the Northeast
Broncos Fan for 35+ years
In today's world
technology has made it possible to get news out to fans without going thropugh the media. Denver is the first to use this. I find a couple of recent things funny, Ellis talked with John to get news to the fans about the lockout instead of the Denver Post and today’s Post is all about yesterday’s bloggings.
If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.
My thoughts are very similar
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Mar 16, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
maybe we've been contacted by a team for Orton
They give us a good 2nd round draft pick and we take Locker to replace him.
Or maybe its just a smoke screen
Or maybe the FO is tired of hearing about the negotiations and wanted to created a different news story.
Or maybe...
…the Broncos have been contacted by a team that wants Tebow, and will give up a good 2nd for him. And maybe the Broncos are tired already about Tebowmania, and don’t want the distraction caused by a QB who throws floaters and hasn’t impressed the FO.
Maybe they’re intrigued with Locker, who played well enough in 09 to be rated a top ten pick if he’d come out a year ago. He didn’t suddenly get lousy after a season with lousy receivers and a lousy O line.
I doubt the FO is interested in wasting either their time or Locker’s time trying to create some sort of “smokescreen”.
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
by bradley on Mar 16, 2011 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
True
I was just saying there’s lots of possibilities.
Without using a 1st round pick he’s probably the best QB that will be available in the draft.
Personally wouldn’t want him high in the second due to our other needs, but wouldn’t mind us trading up to get him late 2nd early 3rd.
you’re probably right about the smoke screen but as a fan I like to think conspiracy theories and smoke screens exist though. Makes the draft just a little more exciting.
Smokescreens do exist
But the fact that they are having a private workout with Locker seems a bit excessive for a smokescreen.
Anyone know where it will be held? Denver? Washington?
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
Nice, LMAO!
Fighting Foo With Every Post...
by MTBroncosFan on Mar 16, 2011 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Here's an exert from Walterfootball that I found rather amusing
Why does John Elway hate Tim Tebow? He can’t possibly think that Kyle Orton is the better option. Tebow looked great in Denver’s final three games, so he deserves a shot.
I get the feeling something happened behind closed doors. Hmm…
Tim Tebow: It’s an honor and a privilege to meet you, Mister John Elway Sir!
John Elway: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, Tim, I saw that picture online with you and that big-breasted chick. Let me have her number.
Tim Tebow: But Mister John Elway Sir, I can’t give it to you.
John Elway: What!? You dare deny the great John Elway!?
Tim Tebow: Mister John Elway Sir, I don’t know her. She just randomly took a picture with me. I have no way to reach her. Not that I would want to anyway because girls have cooties.
John Elway: That’s it! Kyle Orton will be my starter until you get me her number!
And now for something completely different
Someone posted on the B Quinn post
that you want your backup to be 10% less in talent and intangibles. Locker seems to fit the bill and could run the same offense that they would make for TT.
You can be dumb... that's ok! There are many dumb people.
You can be an %&*hole... that's ok! There are many of these as well.
Unfortunately you cannot be both...
Ok... prove me wrong.
I agree
I wouldn’t be surprised or horrified if they draft a backup QB. It would probably meen we are using one of our picks from trading Orton or Quinn. I am all for Tebow, but he will most likely miss a game or three with injuries.
Fighting Foo With Every Post...
by MTBroncosFan on Mar 16, 2011 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I would not be surprised at all if we draft a QB.
Orton WILL be traded. No way do we keep two high priced QBs that both expect to start and do not get along real well. No, Tebow is not going anywhere, yet. Quinn is cheap and will stay this year, but will we re-sign him? A draft pick can be on the roster and not really count against it. Why not use this? Locker seems a little high in the draft for us though. Maybe at #67. Potts in the late rounds or even undrafted sounds good.
If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.
+1 digger
I agree, I’m thinking we draft a back-up QB in this draft because we are going to be trading Orton. I’m a Bronco Fan not a Tebow fan, but i do believe Tebow is the better fit right now for our team. Therefore, we only have 2 QB’s on the staff in 2011 and need a develpomental guy because Quinn will be a free agent in 2012. I watched Locker quite a bit as a close friend is a huge huskies fan. He has one heck of an arm, his junior year he had a great wideout who helped him, last year he had nothing and locker was the only thing that made the huskies who they were. I would not mind seeing him picked up in the later part of the second round. IMO that would be a great value for him to develop along with Tebow.
by diehardbronco2 on Mar 16, 2011 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Last year I chanted, "No to Tebow!"
Now, I think he’s our best option. The kid is a fighter. He has the leadership and desire to win. Will that prove enough? Maybe. For a while it will.
I never really took to Orton, but one thing I admire about him is his toughness. He played through pain a lot. He took some good shots. The easy Eddie of QBs. Ha ha.
If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.
FALSE
I’ll say it for what seems like the 100th time… we do NOT, I repeat NOT, have a QB salary problem.
Orton is a one-year deal, and TT and BQ are cheap. As a POSITION GROUP, we are not spending a high amount on QB. All these guys together make less than some teams spend on the starter, and even though its on the high-side for the performance level, the 1-year nature of Orton’s deal means it is not a structural problem that requires a roster move.
Folks claim we can cut Orton and use that salary elsewhere… but we can not. Doing so would create a structural imbalance that wrecks our cap if/when TT or whoever our next “franchise QB” is needs a new deal. So at best, cutting Orton allows us to do a one-year rental of a veteran player… how is that any different than what we’re likely to do with Orton?
basically, nothing in the bronco salary structure forces or encourages any movement at the QB position. You may think we’re better off trading Orton (and I might agree), but salary has NOTHING to do with that. That is purely about the value of whatever pick or player we get for him.
So stop spouting nonsense about Orton’s salary… it is just not true.
Ridiculous
Orton just doesn’t have heart.
Orton behaves like an adult. Tebow, on the other hand, behaves like a three year old.
To say Orton doesn’t have heart is really incredible.
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
Wow is that ever a mis-statement!
The term heart is not an insult. Orton just doesn’t have that fire. I had a rope horse who absolutely loved to rope. Pin his ears and fire out of the box, dive at the corner and slide to a graceful stop. That horse couldn’t wait to compete. She was young and some times made mistakes by cutting the corner but that was easily corrected. My backup horse would make the corner, stop okay and and behaved well in the box. He could get the job done but never put me in the money. It was all in the heart of the horse. 1 liked to rope, one loved to rope. She was born to do it. That was the difference. My mare would give more on 3 legs than any other horse I have been on. That is Heart.
Orton acts like an adult? You mean by having his picture taken (several times) while drunk, pouting on the sidelines the last 3 games of the season? Yeah that childish Tebow. Missions, witnessing, helping with his foundation, visiting sick children. I wish my children would act like that!
I was talking about Tebow
huffing and puffing around the field after making a play, versus Orton remaining calm after amking a play, like an adult (and like, for example, Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey).
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
Football is an emotional game
Elway was an emotional player so was Favre, Young… Some of the greatest. Even Brady smiles occasionally.
Fighting Foo With Every Post...
by MTBroncosFan on Mar 17, 2011 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah and when he looks at their account balances
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by MTBroncosFan on Mar 17, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Tebow acts three? really
so Tebow pouts when he throws picks and sits on the sideline moping?
funny that doesn’t sound like him hell it doesn’t sound like Orton but I knew this guy once…
Dear Santa- All I want for Christmas is a Stud NT and David Harris- Thank you!
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
"Teamwork divides the task and double the success."
- Unknown
by Jon Tollerud on Mar 17, 2011 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions
The whole pout thing
is a fabrication of the Tebowites, who will do anything to denigrate Kyle Orton, who is actually a fine human being and a very good quarterback. But the Tebowites need (for some perverse reason, beyond my understanding) to denigrate Orton in order to make Tebow the guy on the field. It’s really a sick thing.
I’m OK with whoever the coaches think is the better QB, but I am sickened by people saying things like “Orton just doesn’t have heart”.
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
I was actually refering to Cutler! ha ha
Dear Santa- All I want for Christmas is a Stud NT and David Harris- Thank you!
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
"Teamwork divides the task and double the success."
- Unknown
by Jon Tollerud on Mar 17, 2011 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry for the double-post!
"It is our attitude at the beginning of a difficult task which, more than anything else, will affect its successful outcome." - William James
And there in lies the problem with "fans" such as jrock. They're young.
20 year fan huh? That explains a lot. See there are some of us who go back to the Lou Saban days. We have been through losing seasons and still rooted for our Broncos. Hell I still have problems hearing Colorado Rockies without thinking about “Rockie Hockey” and KIMN AM950. Makes me more than a little homesick.
See jrock there was a time that Bronco fans loved all Broncos. We supported them rain or shine.We are the ones who just can’t comprehend that Gradishar and Louis Wright are not in the HOF. We still think Billy Thompson was the greatest Safety of the 70’s. I remember Where I was when They announce that Red Miller was the new coach. We love Simon Fletcher and Rulon Jones. I still have a Bucky Dilts autograph. I remember the fan anger when Steve Busick was traded and we kept Ricky Hunley. I have watched Charley Johnson, Steve Ramsey, Craig Morton, Craig Penrose, Norris Weese and Steve Deberg. I know where I was when the Elway trade was announced.
I bring up stats from QB’s from the past because I remember their struggles and there were plenty. You’ve read it but I watched it. I watched Elway grow as a qb and believe you me there were times it was PAINFUL.
The point is that the older fans have been through all this before. We have watched QB’s come and go and most (not all) of us realize that Tebow has a chance to be a great field general. Great passer , maybe not. But Elway took a long time to get to be a good passer and by some accounts was never great.
Yes,Tebow’s footwork needs coaching but you are way off base when it comes to arm strength. It is up to him to take the needed steps along with the proper coaching. And ALL players need coaching. There is a reason each team has a qb coach. I dare say Steve Young Doesn’t go to the HOF without Kubiak and Shanahan. Denver never would have won a SB without them either.
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