A Different Mock 2.0

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 8:46 AM MDT

Lets dispense with the pleasantries.

We all know why we're here. We want to gawk at all the potential talent Denver can add to their roster. These players haven't let us down, yet. They are all superstars in the making. They are Alphonso Smith before he became Alphonso Smith - all upside and hope.

Trades: Cincy trades the 4th overall and the 35th overall for the 2nd overall plus a future 4th round pick.

In this scenario Carolina drafts Newton, Cincy drafts Gabbert, and Buffalo drafts Peterson.

Round One: FIGHT

4th Overall

Marcell Dareus - DT

Fox and the brain trust is over joyed with how the draft has turned out so far. Dareus, while not without questions, is an elite prospect that will run stuff and occupy blockers. He's a high character guy and endears himself with fans with his upbeat attitude and work ethic.

Round Two: FIGHT

35th Overall

Corey Liguet - DT

A first round prospect in the early second round that fills a need is exactly where Fox and co go with this pick. After barely getting passed the Bears (who opt for OL help on a falling prospect themselves) Liguet makes his home in Denver. Liguet, next to Dareus, will be a force. He can get into the backfield and make the play. Suprisingly versatile, Liguet becomes a day one starter with his pass rush ability.

36th Overall

Mark Ingram - RB

I've mocked him falling to us before and this time is no different. With back to back picks and two solid DL selections the Broncos opt for this work horse to further bolster our RB corp. With three punishing RBs the Broncos look to run down the throats of all who oppose them with the smash mouth styles of Lendale, Moreno, and Ingram. With three punishing runners the Broncos are able to wear defenses down. Did I say three? I meant four. Don't forget Tebow. Now extremely weary of our four pronged rushing attack opposing defences cringe at having to deal with our tough, physical offense. Ingram makes more sense than you'd think.

46th Overall

Martez Wilson - ILB

Martez brings a lot of athleticism to our LB corp, but is not without risk. Fox and co decide to reach for him a bit hoping to stock up on quality defenders for Denver's new look defense. To say Martez is athletic is an understatement, but after a terrible pro day this pick is entrenched with Risk. Fox believes he can coach him up and Denver fans around the country hope so as well.

Round Three: FIGHT

65th Overall

Bruce Carter - OLB

Another surprise faller goes to Denver as Fox picks an extremely talented LB in the early third round. Viewed as a 1st round talent who fell due to an ACL tear, Carter instantly upgrades our LBs alongside Martez. Has great size and athleticism but lacks elite instincts to be considered an elite prospect. Injury concerns are a draw back but his upside and positional value make him an easy pick.

Round Six: Fight

Keo Shiloh - SS

I love this kid. If we don't draft him I'll be dissapointed. Great fundementals and a relentless motor. Played for a smaller school and his production diminished in his senior year. Rave reviews from Deon Sanders and Mayock. An absolute steal in the sixth and my vote for the biggest sleeper of the draft. Seriously. Watch this kids combine. He is full out on every drill. This kid will make an NFL team better for the price of a 6th round pick.

And with that I'm done. Thoughts? Musings? I'd be estatic with this draft.

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I'd be very happy with it. Also stunned.

I would be shocked if Liguet fell into the 2nd round. Same goes for Ingram at #36. Also don’t see Wilson lasting all the way to #46 but crazier things have happened i suppose.

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by Eddie.Teach on Mar 22, 2011 8:53 AM MDT reply actions

Walter Mock draft has him almost hitting the third and typically he’s pretty on point. He would have been an early 2nd round prospect but a terrible pro day will cause him to fall.

He was said to have had terrible footwork and looked uninterested. This is why he will fall, but his outstanding athleticism will make him an easy decision.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions

Also Liguet...

He’s often slated to go to the Bears at 29. The Bears could VERY easily opt for offensive line help here instead of a DT. If that happens he could potentially make it to Denver with a very early second round pick.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions

I love it!

If it happens like this I will be a happy Bronco Fan! I can envision it now. The four headed rushing attack…

Fighting Foo With Every Post...

by MTBroncosFan on Mar 22, 2011 8:58 AM MDT reply actions

I know

Trust me when I say that defences will HATE playing Denver if we have three punishing RBs AND a mobile QB who can make you pay with his feet.

Imagine 2 RB sets of Moreno and Ingram. Both can catch. Both can run. It would be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions

I like the picks

but, I don’t think Engram or Wilson will be available at the picks you have them at. Also, I really don’t see Cincy moving up.

by ConradA on Mar 22, 2011 9:11 AM MDT reply actions

Martez Wilson had a TERRIBLE pro day

He should be there in the late second.

I mean REALLY terrible pro day.

Ingram falls because Miami takes a QB and New England drafts two pass rushers and trades back in the second. How unlikely is that?

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions

Wilson had a good combine

What does it really mean? TAPE >>>>>>>>> Combine and pro days

New England could do a lot of things, but RB is definitely a need.

by ConradA on Mar 22, 2011 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions

I will definitely agree RB is a need but if they like Leshoure just as much or close to as much they could easily trade back which is kind of their MO.

I’m not saying it will definitely happen BUT it isn’t as outlandish as some of you are saying.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions

I was salivating until the Ingram pick

Coming out of this draft with both Dareus and Liguet would make me VERY happy. The Ingram pick is unrealistic because I don’t see him falling that far. Plus if he did fall that far, that means Williams and Leshoure probably also fell and would be there in the 3rd for us.

by ohiobronco on Mar 22, 2011 9:11 AM MDT reply actions

There are only two teams that would really draft Ingram

New England and Miami.

New England will probably trade back and could very easily become smitten with another RB. It’s not as unlikely. I also really like him as a prospect and would rather take a surprise faller in the 2nd than the third.

Just my $.02

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions

idk

I agree about New England and Miami

but I could see the Jets and the Packers being interested.

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by Nick Cast on Mar 22, 2011 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions

I could see the Jets but the Packers will be getting Ryan Grant back plus they still have that one kid, whose name escapes me, that tore it up towards the end of the season.

The Jets need a pass rusher and could reach for a pass rush specialist. I’m just saying its possible he ends up there and I think Fox and company wouldn’t be able to pass him up.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions

From my understanding

Ryan Grant is owed a pretty big roster bonus and I’m not sure the Packers want to pay him a big roster bonus coming off a season ending injury.

If Ingram is there at #32, they have to think about him. He’s too good. They could also entertain trade ideas.

Jets are a team that has defensive needs, but Mark Ingram would be a heck of a player for the Jets.

Another team I thought of is the Giants. They need a LB, but there aren’t many LB’s worth a 1st round pick. Ingram could be a surprise pick.

by Nick Cast on Mar 22, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions

Oh I completely agree. The thing about logic and reason is that its hard to argue with. The Jets could very well reach for Moch as well or take a Cameron Heyward or another hybrid type because unlike Fox they do love the blitz and love guys who can mix it up all over the field.

I’m not discounting your ideas at all. You’re probably right. My mock is more themed at what players are going to fall that would work for us and how they might fall to us.

But more than likely you’re very, very right.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions

Hey I'm not complaining

I would pee my pants if we got Ingram.

Dude is an absolute beast.

People compare him to Emmitt Smith and he isn’t even being talked about in the top 10.

Getting him at 36 would make me cry happy tears.

by Nick Cast on Mar 22, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions

What shocks me is the people

Who want Leshoure over Ingram. What?!

In what world would you want that?

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions

People who haven't watched Mark Ingram

Some of the things he did at Alabama.

Wow.

by Nick Cast on Mar 22, 2011 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions

Indeed

INDEED. I would be so happy if he was the RB we took.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions

I believe you mean James Starks

Bleed(ing out) the Orange and Blue

by WhyBroncosWhy? on Mar 22, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions

Yeah! That dude. My future fantasy RB.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions

It would be great if happened but don't you hear that Corey Luiget is top 20 pick.

I read he is very hot DT and had a great Pro Day and will not make it to 2nd Round.

He is rated 3rd best DT in draft.

Again if happened I would be very excited but not very realistic with him there.

by Broncosfansd on Mar 22, 2011 9:23 AM MDT reply actions

Third?

I think he’s behind Dareus, Fairley, and Wilkerson.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions

Wilkerson is below Liuget.

Taylor above Wilkerson as well I think.

If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.

by Digger24 on Mar 22, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions

Then

Swap his name with Paea. Other than that what do you think?

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions

I think this is the main point

There are so many good DT’s that there is a good chance that at least one of them will be available at 36.

Liuget, Wilkerson, Paea, Austin, and Heyward all could be available and we could easily take one of them.

by Nick Cast on Mar 22, 2011 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions

Exactly

If Liuget is there we take him no questions asked. If he’s not then Paea. If he’s not maybe we trade back and grab Austin.

There is so much depth that trying to nail down a specific player is difficult. I’m just trying to shake things up a bit because drafts don’t always go as expected.

Players fall. I just want to be the team they fall to.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions

One COULD be there.

The 3 picks before us in round two scare me. I could see a run of DTs go there.

If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.

by Digger24 on Mar 22, 2011 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions

Fortunately for us

Carolina has holes all over and could use help everywhere except RB really. They need a WR, a QB, DL, etc. Same with Cinci – QB, WR, DL.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions

NE has Carolina's pick.

If one cover CB is nice, two would surely be twice as nice.

by Digger24 on Mar 22, 2011 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions

They'll probably trade back.

Its what they do.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions

Would be a great draft

Nice picks

by ElwayFanJ on Mar 22, 2011 9:40 AM MDT reply actions

Thanks for the comment!

Glad you liked it.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions

I love the draft

I hate to be THAT guy, but I do have a few points I don’t necessarily agree with.

1. The trade value is off. We are trading the #2 overall plus a 4th rounder for #4 and # 35th overall?
I would think we would net more then that, but it’s nearly impossible to predict trades so who knows.

2. Bruce Carter. I don’t like players who have had significant injuries like him. He’s good value in the 3rd, but personally, I would like to grab a tight end like Luke Stocker, DJ Williams, or Lance Kedricks for Tebow.

Round Six: Fight

Did we win the fight?

by Nick Cast on Mar 22, 2011 10:09 AM MDT reply actions

1. Trade value is off but future picks are “buyer beware” right now and the 35th is essentially another first round pick. The point values don’t add up and I’ve argued for both sides (I do that) but I think the 35th pick for two spots and a future fourth round is more or less what we’ll come up with. If it was a later 2nd round pick I would imagine we’d net more picks but that 35th pick could be a very lucrative pick.

2. I agree but he’s just too much value to pass up in the third. I would love to grab a TE but I’d be hard pressed to take any specific TE (save Rudolph) over Carter in the third.

3. If we draft Keo Shiloh in the sixth we did win the fight.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions

Shiloh Keo

I love watching this guy.

I loved him at the east west game. Good against the run, decent in coverage and plays special teams.

Love this kid.

Nice pair with Bruton.

by Nick Cast on Mar 22, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions

This

Absolute steal IMO

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions

I would be pretty happy if this happend

by broncos09 on Mar 22, 2011 10:17 AM MDT reply actions

Me too. Ecstatic is more likely.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions

Nice Mock

I like the Ingram pick, that one you dont see very often. He would be a beast paired up with Moreno and would give Tebow or Orton (whoever is the starter) a lot of pressure off because we will finally get a run game back!

by OrangeCrush87 on Mar 22, 2011 10:33 AM MDT reply actions

Yes!

I don’t want to get anyones hopes up but he could fall to the early second and do we really pass on him if he does? Nope.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions

You know what?

You just can’t argue with this mock!

If our draft pans out like this we’d get a B+ surely.

CristianL take a bow

by RafaTheRed on Mar 22, 2011 10:36 AM MDT reply actions

Thanks dude!

Appreciate the feedback.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions

I like the mock

I would prefer a 2nd pass rusher and don’t like Wilson at all. Even with that, I’d be happy with this turnout

We have a starting QB and two recent first-round QBs all three on the roster; Now we're gonna reach for another 1st round QB.. a year after spending a 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick on a QB. Yeah, you betcha.

by Rodney A on Mar 22, 2011 1:12 PM MDT reply actions

Dontay Moch?

You know how much I like him.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions

No a DE in the first few rounds

by Rodney A on Mar 22, 2011 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions

It just seems too much like a fantasy draft to me

Sure it COULD happen, and I appreciate the reasoning behind your drafts that they represent a different perspective, but it still mentions the same core players we see in most mock drafts.

We have to recognize that other teams are gonna be looking at the same players as us. Liuget is legit, Paea most likely won’t be there either due to his insane bench press workout. It’s more likely to me that an OL or cb falls to us at 36. Like say a Brandon Harris or Jimmy Smith; or the dl available will be more like Cam Heyward or Adrian Clayborn. I feel one of the big tackles will fall too between Carimi, Smith, Solder, and Costonzo. Someone’s gonna fall, as always, but this year we could be SOL and have it be a QB, CB, or OL.

I believe this even more so if teams get the feeling the QB class is too weak to justify a first round pick.

Guys like Shiloh might go a whole round higher than projected cuz they aren’t unknown anymore. Same goes for Mason Foster, Marvin Austin ect. (tho Austin really isn’t an unknown, more so a player who IMO will go round one or early 2)

That being said I enjoy your posts and keep em coming :)

Bleed(ing out) the Orange and Blue

by WhyBroncosWhy? on Mar 22, 2011 1:32 PM MDT reply actions

Right on WBW

A little nasty on defense is nice.

by Digger24 on Mar 22, 2011 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions

Thanks dude

Bleed(ing out) the Orange and Blue

by WhyBroncosWhy? on Mar 22, 2011 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions

Politely Disagree

Without a free agency teams are going to reach for needs more and OL typically trumps RB because teams are willing to invest a pick that will protect their QB and improve their run game without the actual running back.

So I think you’ll see more OL go than you expect purely because teams have to address needs in this draft. Its not a fantasy draft by any means.

Draft Peterson. Elway fears him.

by ChristianL on Mar 22, 2011 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions

I see your point

I wasn’t talking about the Ingram pick. Honestly he could go anywhere from the top ten all the way to round two. He unlikely could fall, and I’d be stoked if he did, but the fact is we see what everyone else sees. If we can see him as being great, everyone else can too. That’s my point. Liuget was the one I was refering to. He most likely will not fall, and we may end up with a selection of Heyward or Harris or an OL as the “steals” or a Nevis/Casey/Ballard in the second as for the DTs.

And this was probably mis-posted. My apologies Christian. I was more refering to the 10 billiion other mocks with the same names over and over. Yours is refreshing and doesn’t have Paea, austin and Peterson all going to us.

Bleed(ing out) the Orange and Blue

by WhyBroncosWhy? on Mar 22, 2011 1:51 PM MDT reply actions