Latest Mock Draft
by swg777 on Apr 15, 2011 9:21 AM MDT
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PrintTrades:
1. Kyle Orton to the Vikings for their 2nd rounder (#43).
2. Our 6th and a 7th rounder to an unknown team for their 5th rounder.
Draft:
1st Round: Marcel Dareus DT
I see Dareus as someone who would average about 7 sacks a year and 15 TFL's. Those are solid numbers.
2nd Round: Marvin Austin DT
Austin reminds me of Dareus. Austin's lack of collegiate production concerns me. However, he is a top 20 talent.
2nd Round: Mason Foster SLB
Foster can step right in and play SLB on day one. Love the attitude and passion. Plays faster in games.
2nd Round: Marcus Cannon OT
Cannon, in my mind, is one of the most underrated OL in the draft. Will become a crowd favorite. People see that he is 350 lbs and they assume he is Andre Smith fat. However, he is a powerlifter and carries his weight really well. I think he could fit in our ZB system because he is super athletic and quick with his feet. Honestly, I haven't figured it out but I noticed we are looking at OL that are hybrid guard and right tackle prospects. I'm not sure if we are planning on moving them to guard or right tackle. If I had to guess, I would assume we are looking for a right tackle. Cannon has tons of collegiate experience at right tackle. I feel he has Pro Bowl potential at guard and very solid starter potential at right tackle. I feel he would help a ton with our running game. Even though I would want Ryan Harris to stay, I don't see it happening. Cannon would likely start at RT from day one.
3rd Round: Casey Matthews MLB
I watched over 90% of Casey's games as a Duck and I think he is a fourth round talent. However, I think it is entirely reasonable to overdraft him a bit because of his genes. After all, maybe he could get on his brother's work out plan (hint hint).
5th Round: Julius Thomas TE - Project player.
7th Round: Ryan Winterswyk DE - Much needed depth at DE.
Free Agency:
1. Tim Hightower RB
2. Marcus Thomas DT
3. Justin Bannan DT
4. Matt Prater K
5. Mike Karney FB
Starters:
QB: Tim Tebow
RB: Knowshon Moreno
FB: Mike Karney
WR: Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Lloyd
TE: Richard Quinn
OL: Ryan Clady, Zane Beadles, J.D. Walton, Chris Kuper, Marcus Cannon
DL: Robert Ayers, Marvin Austin, Marcell Dareus, Elvis Dumervil
LB: Mason Foster (S) Casey Matthews (M) D.J. Williams (W)
S: Brian Dawkins, Darcel Mcbath
CB: Champ Bailey, Andre Goodman
- Yes, I am aware of the fact that I have four rookie starters on defense. Our defense was the worst in the NFL and this year could be painful.
- I really want to aim higher with free agency but I have no clue who we are looking at and how much we are prepared to spend.
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Your draft would be Excellent for The Broncos
Marcell Dareus = BEAST
Marvin Austin = very disruptive 3 tech DT
Mason Foster = very productive LB
Marcus Cannon = I agree has Pro Bowl written all over him.
That is 4 M’s
Now I like Matthews but at pick #67 it is too high for him. Denver could trade down from 67 to the end of the 3rd/4th and pick up a bunch of extra picks.
I think Matthews isn’t a starter right away but has Potential down the road to start. Make that trade and pick up some extra players ie: Alex Green , Allen Bradford , Richard Sherman , Chris Culliver.
Overall I do like the fact that you address BOTH OLINE AND DLINE.
Thanks....
I acknowledge that Matthews would be overdrafted in the third round but part of me thinks his family pedigree might warrant it. Like I said, maybe his brother can share his work out plan with him??? (hint hint).
I would switch Dareus and Austin
Dareus is the superior talent and play the 3 tech. Austin would be a great 1 tech with pass rushing to boot.
Nice draft
I think Quan Sturdivant, Greg Jones, and Kelvin Sheppard are better ILB’s than Casey Matthews but after drafting Dareus, Austin, Foster, and Cannon we could afford to take a chance on him. I think DeAndre McDaniel, S, Clemson would be a better pick for us at #67.
I agree with you about Matthews to a certain extent....
See my answers in the comments to justify it….sort of.
Cannon definately on my radar
I’m still hoping we trade back but I would take this draft in a heartbeat, especially with Cannon as this fan thinks he has elite potential.
"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."
Marcus Cannon is a STRONG MAN
He reportedly Squats over 700lbs and benches over 450lbs.
He also can do a front flip at 350lbs.
I think John Fox drafted a similar guy in Jeff Otah in Carolina but think Cannon is better athlete.
and he obviously blows bfsd
Seriously dude. There’s reports he can’t play OT in the NFL because he’s slow. Stop drinking the purple cool-aid.
Saar a tweet Cannon has Testicular Cancer
I googled it and it looks like it might be true, I pray it is not!!
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by The 3 Amigos on Apr 15, 2011 2:15 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldnt put Prater at DT thats for sure ;)
SOooo many other LBs i’d pick before Foster. He’s not a 3-down LB. I’m not picking a guy that can’t stay on the field when there’s guys around that pick that can.
You could look at guys like Bruce Carter, Martez Wilson, Quan Sturdivant, Greg Jones, Kelvin Sheppard, Dontay Moch – all before I’d draft Mason Foster or Casey Matthews.
Ooops….thanks for the catch with Prater. I’m going to highly disagree with your take on Foster. Yes, I would consider Carter before Foster, but that is it. The other guys you mentioned are very good but I would put Foster above them. I watched Foster play against the Oregon Ducks and catch LaMichael James from behind. I’ve seen him cover effectively. I’ve seen him disengage from blockers and make tackles. I have read a few websites that say he is not a three down LB but for every one of those scouting reports I have read there are three or four that disagree. His game speed is much higher than his already good measurables.
Disagree
I think Wilson’s best as a pass-rushing OLB in a 3-4, as is Moch. I’d put Sturdivant, Jones and Sheppard in the same general range as Foster, although I wouldn’t necessarily favor one of them over Foster.
Hunh, I don't ever remember a Bronco named Nagurski...
by Broncologist on Apr 15, 2011 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions
You think Wilson is a rush LB??
And why spend our 2nd round pick on Foster when we can get a nicer player later in the 3rd round?
by JuiceIsLoose on Apr 15, 2011 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
A lot of analysts
think his best position would be as 3-4 OLB, although that wouldn’t be the only position he could play. I’d prefer to take Foster at #67 than #46 but I’m obviously higher on him than you are regardless.
Hunh, I don't ever remember a Bronco named Nagurski...
by Broncologist on Apr 15, 2011 7:15 PM MDT up reply actions
His athleticism would allow him to play a little 3-4 rush LB...
thats his versatility. But he’s a ILB. He’d fit Fox’s system well.
by JuiceIsLoose on Apr 15, 2011 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions
This is a good draft.
I would be very, very pleased with this outcome, though I think we are almost 100 percent guaranteed to pick up a RB at some point on draft weekend.
My latest mock looks like this (w/trade down in first)
1. Nick Fairley (assuming Newton, Gabbert, Dareus go 1,2,3)
2. Mikel LeShoure
3. Marvin Austin
4. Mason Foster
5. Casey Matthews
So, basically, only difference was I have LeShoure instead of Cannon, and Fairley in the first with the trade down.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 15, 2011 11:18 AM MDT reply actions
Sounds good.......
I’m not quite as high on LeShoure as everyone else. I like him though. I’m surprised you picked Fairley after reading your comments about him over the last few months.
I agree that we will address running back this offseason but I wonder if it will be early or late. Are we prepared to make Knowshon the #2 or are we going to plan on platooning him with whoever we draft?
I’m all for Fairley at #2 or later.
Sayre - who is your answer at RT?
I actually think it is our #2 Need.
DT #1
RT #2
RB #3
LB #4
TE #5
by Broncosfansd on Apr 15, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I think DT accounts for multiple needs, because we need two starters. We need starters at 3 technique, which is what we believe either Fairley/Dareus could be, and we need a one technique, which is why we’re looking at guys like Phil Taylor and Kenrick Ellis, in my opinion. I think those are the top two needs, because I’m not counting on the Big Vick to start all year long. It will need to be a deep rotation, and we have one guy right now.
Right tackle will be a huge need, but there’s a reason—in my opinion—that we aren’t working out or looking at a lot of them. We could certainly draft one, no question, and it would have to be in the first three rounds, but also, if the CBA is not resolved an the lockout is simply lifted, then Ryan Harris will be a RFA and will likely be back with the Broncos. If there IS a CBA, Harris will be a UFA but also there will be a plethora of other OL available via free agency.
I think LB is our #2 or #3 need, depending how you rate our current guys. I think we need at least one in this draft, maybe two. The ideal scenario for those who want to pick up two elite LB’s in the draft would be to get a combination of Von Miller and Mason Foster/Casey Matthews/Lawrence Wilson/Dontay Moch. The best combo—IMO—would be Von Miller and Mason Foster.
If we go with Patrick Peterson, I think we have to hope that some top tier DL fall to our 2nd round picks, and that’s a risk I’m not sure I’d be willing to take. I still like Peterson, but it’s iffy.
To me, Dareus and Fairley are the safest bets, though I’d be happy with any of Dareus, Fairley, Peterson, or Miller in a trade down scenario, even Bowers if we moved down to 10 or something like that. The Broncos have lots of options, but they have to get their first pick on the money. They have to get a high impact player.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 15, 2011 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with the picking up of a RB - Fox loves his RB's - DeAngelo Williams , Jonathon Stewart.
I think Mikel Leshoure will give Denver the power running back that we need and would elevate our offense alot.
I think that if we went Nick Fairley in the 1st then Marcus Cannon in the 2nd would make more sense.
1st -———————- trade down -————— Nick Fairley
2nd -—————————————————————— Mikel Leshoure
2nd -—————————————————————— Marcus Cannon
2nd -—————————————————————— Mason Foster
3rd -——————————————————————- Drake Nevis or a FS – Marcus Gilchrist
I like this BFSD, but Nevis who I really like is also an undertackle we would need K Ellis to play 4-3 nose.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
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"Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast. "
by The 3 Amigos on Apr 15, 2011 2:18 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Fairley has allegedly already MISSED two planned Pre Draft Meetings without reason - this I think
is a reflection of his reliability AND his character – I hope we don’t go near him!
by Telluride Kiwi on Apr 15, 2011 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
How are you going to trade Orton
when there’s no trading of players possible now?
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
You are likely correct but:
1. There is a chance that trades, or the rights to players, could be allowed to be moved if the players and owners agree to that small stipulation, even outside of a CBA
2. There is an even smaller chance that it could be settled by the draft. I realize that there is a small chance now, but in the days before the draft the pressure will build on both sides.
I'd like to see something like this happen
but I don’t think there’s any chance that either of your options will happen. Look at Congress – they waited until the last minute to fund the government. The NFL/NFLPA standoff will continue until at least mid-august, I think. Just the nature of all strikes, or lockouts. Both sides will be waiting for signs of crumbling on the other side.
There is a chance, though – if Judge Nelson issues an injunction that basically reinstalls the CBA as it existed last year. She said she needed a couple weeks to make her decision, and that was a couple weeks ago. But she can take as long as she wants, and while the mediation is going on, my bet is she does nothing.
What I am truly interested in is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world.
Albert Einstein
I also think there is a chance that Marvin Austin get drafted by the Chicago Bears
McShay and some others have him going #29 to Chicago.
I think that if Denver drafts Marcel Dareus then this will open up other positions in the 2nd.
I like Marvin Austin and would be happy if we drafted him but I would also be happy with RB Mikel Leshoure. John Fox loves his RB’s and I see him being high on the wish list.
Denver has too many needs this year(thanks to McDaniels)
If Austin and Paea are off the board at #36
then I would strongly consider Kendrick Ellis with our first or second second rounder.
Rumor has it...
We also like Jarvis Jenkins from Clemson, and he fits the bill of the Big and Tall DT’s that Fox likes…
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by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 15, 2011 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Agree BFSD
My so called guaranteed mock I put out last week is Dareus (would love Fairley also), Austin, Leshoure and Studervant.
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" What in the hell is diversity?" " Well I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old wooden ship that was used during the civl war era"
"Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast. "
by The 3 Amigos on Apr 15, 2011 2:22 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
And Shanny. You can’t forget all his wasted picks in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007 and 2008.
ConradA to me "You should actually watch a Broncos game from a critical point of view. Put away the orange and blue glasses for a game and watch." Maybe I'll try that sometime Conrad, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that just yet.
Oh boy......
I heard a guy say that most mocks on blogs like this are like opening the “Magicc Cupboard of Unicorns and Rainbows” in the belief that the “right guy” will be at the positon the Bronocs have a pick. Further. all trades will have the “right” partner to get the pick the mocker wants, and that all the “right” FAs will all cone to Denver – cheaply, of course – because the mocker will is. Funny how that works, isn’t it? Sort of like building a bridge to nowhere.
The only pick the mockers can have a decent shot at predicting is the Bronco’s first pick. After that, it is a sea of turbulance, Trades are dependent upon at least one other group, and are actually more difficult to do than believed. (Even Shanahan said said something like that..)
I do believe the odds are the Broncos are leaning towards Dareus. But it is not certain, is it? I would not downplay the possibility of Peterson or Miller. Would there be a melt down here if Dareus were not the pick? Dunno, but I am gonna find out…..
Do not mock mocks
They are fun and help people understand the draft better, mocker included. It stimulates thought and debate on the talent/potential of prospects and what a teams needs are and where they should address said needs. I doubt most mockers go into this saying the draft will unfold as such, but mocks help generate discussion.
I would agree a lot of mocks are pie in the sky, but no way does swg deserve such a title. He follows the draft avidly and has as good of a feel for Bronco needs/prospects as any mocker I have seen.
As for your FA point, I fail to see those guys as “the right ones.” Hightower has shown flashes in AZ but he could realistically be bought cheap, the rest are all guys who played for the Broncos in 2010 who swg thinks we’ll bring back.
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Well Gulbrand
In my opinion it is going to come down to Marcell Dareus and Von Miller.
Dareus addresses our #1 need and is a BEAST.
Von Miller I think is next in line because he would give us a ELITE LB in the Front 7 to go with Dumervil who is the only other Elite Front 7 Player.
I would put draft Patrick Peterson at 10% maybe. I just don’t see Denver giving Champ a Big New Contract and then draft PP and have no talent in the Front 7(besides Dumervil)
We can’t trade our 7th round pick because it’s compensatory and those picks can not be traded.
You’ll have do give up both our 6 rounders.
ConradA to me "You should actually watch a Broncos game from a critical point of view. Put away the orange and blue glasses for a game and watch." Maybe I'll try that sometime Conrad, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that just yet.
We only have one sixth rounder and two seventh rounders. We can trade our sixth and our non comp seventh.
You are incorrect.
We have two 6th rounders. The pick from NE and another one from Detroit. Phoze trade where we got their 6th and they got our 7th.
Our only 7th rounder is the compensatory pick
ConradA to me "You should actually watch a Broncos game from a critical point of view. Put away the orange and blue glasses for a game and watch." Maybe I'll try that sometime Conrad, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that just yet.
And it’s very wishful thinking that we’ll be able to trade Orton before the draft. The CBA is not getting done in the next two weeks.
That will be a 2012 2nd round pick my friend. Not as much fun for your mock purposes, but at least it’s more accurate.
ConradA to me "You should actually watch a Broncos game from a critical point of view. Put away the orange and blue glasses for a game and watch." Maybe I'll try that sometime Conrad, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that just yet.
SWG, you and Sayre think similar to me. I love this draft and it would immediately upgrade the team, and the nastiness of the team. Great job!
FIRE DE MAURICE SMITH...he can go suck dog balls for all I care!
NFLPA??? National Fools and Lame Pricks Association!
ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT WE HAVE IN TEBOW? Watching Kyle orton is like watching re-runs of the Brady Bunch...you always know whats going to happen and makes you feel sick at the end!
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I'm with McG no way Orton is traded pre draft
with that though I wouldn’t mind this draft sans the Cannon pick. I don’t hate Cannon but a Dareus-austin-Foster draft is something I could really get excited abut
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The more I think about it, the more I agree with you
Wishful thinking on my part. I can see a much greater sense of urgency leading up to the draft but it probably won’t be settled before the draft.
I think starting two rookies at DT is not good at all.
Usually linemen in general have a hard time transitioning to the NFL. I think what they should do, is draft those young DTs (Dareus and whoever) but also sign two savy vets. Get back Justin Bannan and I would love to get Barry Cofield—or someone along those lines. I just think that it’s a healthy transition if rookies don’t have to start away. The only rookie I expect to start right away is the number two overall pick. After that, if the broncos draft another DT that should be a rotational guy. Then work his way into starting at the end of the year. Similar to what Decker went through last year. Starting two rookies early could set them back for a year or so. To avoid some thing like that from happenig broncos could have Dareus, Bannan, Austin, Vickerson, and Cofield all rotate. It’ll take the pressure off the rookies and also keep them fresh. This should have happened last year with the o-line—not rotating but getting savy vets to start right away. The green bay packers do this all the time and I don’t know why teams don’t follow that.
by tiderfootball09 on Apr 15, 2011 5:47 PM MDT reply actions
You make very good points.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you. My thinking was that with Dareus and Austin you have two guys that are top 20 talents playing on the worst defense in the NFL at the greatest position of need. I didn’t think it was that far fetched for them to start.
MY DREAM...
That we trade back to number 10. In doing so we aquire thier 2nd round pick, their 2012 1st round pick and Big Albert :) With the 10th overall pick Denver selects Tyrone Smith (OL) via U.S.C. Now here me out, with this one move we complete our O-Line and add the best 3 tech DT in pro-football !! That would give us one of the best young O-Lines and add a huge peace of the puzzel on defence. The best part though would be that we still have 3 high second round picks this year and 2 1st’s next year. Thats how you rebuild our beloved Broncos :)
by FootballguruCoreyS. on Apr 16, 2011 2:18 AM PDT replyactions
by FootballguruCoreyS. on Apr 16, 2011 3:26 AM MDT reply actions
This
would be amazing! I would buy it in a second.
You can be dumb... that's ok! There are many dumb people.
You can be an a$$hole... that's ok! There are many of these as well.
Unfortunately you cannot be both...
Ok... prove me wrong.
It makes me cry that you made Rich Quinn our starting TE. I can already see this false starts and missed assignment mental lapses that leads to a Tebow injury.
ConradA to me "You should actually watch a Broncos game from a critical point of view. Put away the orange and blue glasses for a game and watch." Maybe I'll try that sometime Conrad, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that just yet.
I think this would be a decent draft
Hard to hit all the holes with low amount of picks, but if we address the inside of the defense first, I will be happy, especially if we come away with four starters on defense.
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