Looking for the "safest picks"? They aren't who you think they are.
My approach going into this draft has been based on the idea that we can't have any more whiffs like Willie Middlebrooks, Ashley Lelie, George Foster and Jarvis Moss. We don't need to end up with best player in the draft, we just need to end up with a very good consistent starter, and that means that the floor is more important than the ceiling. In my mind, the "safe" positions seem like the linemen on both offense and defense, and this has led me to believe that we should be drafting a DT with our first pick. I am now questioning that approach. Follow me after the jump to find out why.
The four-letter website has an interesting article with a statistical analysis of first round draft picks since 2002 based on their longevity, their productivity and their effect on their team's success. Here's the link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6389648
I know someone will comment that this should be a fanshot and not a fanpost. I apologize if I'm fouling up the etiquette, but no on reads the fanshots and I also wanted to include more analysis than the typical fanshot so I'm doing a fanpost instead.
According to ESPN's analysis, the "safest" picks are LB, DE, TE and DB in that order. This is not what I would have expected. I don't think of linebackers as being particularly safe picks, and I definitely wouldn't have thought that tight ends were highly likely to be long-term starters. I usually think of the glamour positions like RB and WR. If I had to guess, I would say that part of the reason for the "safeness" of picking LB's and TE's is that the guys who have the frame to play these positions are going to be adequate at worst, so that means they are going to be able to stay on the field. These positions don't require the skill set of a left tackle, running back, wide receiver or quarterback. They require big, strong tough guys who can work in the trenches. It is probably easier to scout these traits in college than some of the other positions.
But this is only half of ESPN's analysis. The other half is concerned with how good these guys turn out to be, not just how many snaps they get per game and how many years they play. And this is the part that I found really fascinating. To assess a player's impact, ESPN also assigned a value to first round picks based on their individual success and their contribution to the team's success using All Pro voting, Super Bowl appearances, and Pro Bowl appearances. According to this analysis, LB's, DB's and TE's were most likely to be the high-impact players you are looking for in the first round. Again, this was surprising to me, particularly the LB's and TE's. We don't think of many LB's in the same way we think about the best WR's, RB's or even DB's in the game. And we certainly don't talk about tight ends as being dominant players. Tight ends are usually considered role players. Sure Dallas Clark and Antonio Gates are important to their teams, but look what those teams have been able to do with backups when the starters get hurt. You can't replace a key RB or WR the way the Colts replaced Clark, right? But according to ESPN's analysis, a linebacker or tight end is more likely to be a high impact player than a WR or RB.
Based on this analysis, I have to say I'm reconsidering my opposition to drafting Von Miller or Patrick Peterson with the #2 pick. I still think #2 is too high for these players, but the reality is that the #2 pick is too high for any player in this draft. At #2 you have to end up with a long-term stud. If you believe in playing the odds, your best bet is to gamble on a LB or DB. At least according to the four-letter network.
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Its not that Von Miller is a reach at #2
Its that he’s a prototype 3-4 rush linebacker who doesn’t fit our scheme. I think the “safest” pick is Marcell Dareus but there is no such thing as a “safe” pick.
I would agree with you as far as safe
But to me if we select No. 2 overall, the safest pick is Darius out of Bama for the simple reason I think he can adjust to the NFL quickly and he will make the defense better overall, Peterson is probably a safer pick in the form he doesn’t look like he will be anything less than a pro-bowl player in three years, but he won’t help the defense that much in terms of being able to stop the run or pass, he, like any CB needs a pass rush to be effective, Miller I think is a good player, but not sure how he fits the scheme Fox wants to employ, which doesn’t have much blitzing from the Lb positions, so not sure how effective he would be if they don’t change the scheme overall.
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How is Dareus Safe?
I’m not saying he will bust, but who has ever seen him perform and succeed as a 4-3 DE? The only “safe” pick that fits our team that is a top pick is Peterson… You can argue both ways against him, but I am inclined to believe that it would be just as beneficial to have a stellar backfield and an OK front 7, as it would to have the opposite. I think it’s a gamble drafting anyone with the intention of having them play a different position in the NFL than they played in college. Von Miller and Dareus may both end up being great in the NFL but both of them are being asked to play new positions.
I’m not displaying my draft expertise or anything here, I’m only pointing out that the safest route we can take is Peterson.
I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if we took a QB with our first pick, I wouldn’t be happy with the organization, but a great football team isn’t made by keeping their fanbase happy, case in point for this argument Green Bay drafting Aaron Rodgers. The best part about this happening will be when all of the “real” fans will cry in outrage and forfeit their season tickets into my awaiting arms. :)
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Not an argument about you GrizBronc
Just a question to a lot of the articles and comments I’ve been reading lately.
"And on the 8th day, God created Tim Tebow. And He saw that it was good. And He said, "I can now retire. Go forth and make Touchdowns through Running and Passing."
-Harvey J. Neptune
Understood.
And if we draft a QB I will think it is a wasted pick but I won’t flip out unless we never even give Tebow a chance. If there is a competition and a rookie beats out Tebow then I will be pretty confident that we have a good QB.
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by GrizBronc on Apr 22, 2011 8:49 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Where have you heard that Dareus
will play end in a 4-3? I believe he’ll stay on the inside as a DT in the 4-3. The position switch really won’t be a big deal in that case because it isn’t much of a position switch. He’ll still have to anchor against the run, but will have the help of another big man next to him on the interior. He also should get more opportunity to show his explosiveness in the pass rush on a four man line.
Nice post
For what it’s worth, I think you’re right to make it a post rather than a shot. The TEs surprise me. My initial guess is that there are so few TEs taken in the first round (maybe like 15 in ten years) that the numbers could easily be swayed by a small sample size. I haven’t read the link yet, though.
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I think you're spot on about this
I think also since LB and TE are lower value positions. Meaning that they don’t tend to be taken as Highly, I think it takes more to be a first round pick, teams aren’t willing to reach for them the way we were with Moss. So they are more likely to pan out because the ones with question marks drop in the draft.
by Fan in Exile on Apr 23, 2011 5:54 AM MDT up reply actions
For the record
this is spot on for etiquette, no need to apologize. An intriguing argument, a linked conversation starter, and a good first take ont he situation is a great way to create a fanpost. Well done.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 22, 2011 9:41 PM MDT reply actions
Much obliged.
And also for the record, this site rocks. Keep up the good work. I go through withdrawal when Horse Tracks doesn’t get posted. Just six days until draft time…
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by GrizBronc on Apr 22, 2011 10:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
interesting. Thanks.
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