Final 2011 Denver Broncos Mock Draft
The day is finally here.
At 6 PM last night, I had conceded that the Broncos were drafting Marcell Dareus, the defensive tackle from Alabama. I figured there was an outside chance of Patrick Peterson, but I wasn't confident in it. Then, the consensus quickly turned to Texas A&M linebacker Von Miller with the 2nd pick, and it appears as though if the Broncos stick at number two overall, they will take Miller, the best pass rusher in the draft.
There were also reports yesterday that Peterson was gaining steam, and likewise for Auburn's Nick Fariley.
I'm still not positive on this pick, but I trust the sources of guys like Mike Mayock, Rich Gosselin, Mel Kiper Jr., Todd McShay, and Mike Klis, not to mention our own John Bena among others who all picked the Broncos to take Von Miller with the 2nd pick in the draft.
1. First Round, 2nd overall: Von Miller, Linebacker, Texas A&M
Von Miller is an exceptional athlete who will play the SAM linebacker position with the Broncos, and will start immediately. He is the kind of player you can build a defense around, and one of the four players I would be happy with the Broncos taking tonight.
Miller is a rare combination of size, speed, instincts, athleticism, and pass rush ability. He can cover tight ends, and he can take down quarterbacks. The only player in the NFL who has a comparable skill set is Clay Matthews in Green Bay. Multiple scouts have told me Miller is a lock to be the NFL's Defensive rookie of the year.
2. Second Round, 36th overall: Stephen Paea, Defensive Tackle, Oregon State
I know, I know. This is not an unfamiliar name around here. Paea dropped out of the first round in my latest first round projection, so I'm going to assume he is on the board with this pick. The Broncos bypassed Marcell Dareus and Nick Fairley in the first round, and I think the value of DT's in the second round will be excellent.
If someone like Adrian Clayborn or Da'Quan Bowers were to somehow mystically fall to this pick, the Broncos should take notice. You have to try and think of someone with this pick who will be supreme value, because now, free agency is expected to start on Monday and it's likely the Broncos are prepared with a draft board for such a scenario.
Paea is a strong defensive tackle who could be inserted into the starting lineup right away. He has a high motor, and is a great worker. The Broncos could also look to trade this pick.
**Broncos trade 46th pick for a later 2nd round pick, 4th round pick, and 5th round pick**
3. Second Round (via trade): Mason Foster, Linebacker, Washington
The Broncos continue to add guys with third down star potential in Foster, one of the best tacklers in the Pac 10. Foster is a tackling machine, and would be immediately inserted into the Broncos' starting lineup as the MIKE linebacker, in all likelihood.
4. Third Round, 67th overall: Daniel Thomas, Running Back, Kansas State
Daniel Thomas is a big running back who had a huge 2010 season for the Wildcats. He fits the mold of the type of back that John Fox likes, and the Broncos need someone who can go along with Knowshon Moreno. Moreno has not been able to stay healthy, and Thomas was injury free for most of his collegiate career before dealing with injuries late and this offseason.
5. Fourth Round (via trade): Tyler Sash, Safety, Iowa
If the Broncos are going to take a safety, this is the guy that I want. Sash is a kid who is always around the ball, he is an instinctive playmaker, and he's a perfect fit for the cover two defense. Great complement to Darcel McBath if he can stay healthy.
6. Fifth Round (via trade): Allen Bradford, Running Back, USC
Two running backs might seem unlikely right now, but I don't think it is. This is going to be a very run-oriented offense, and the Broncos need guys who can carry the load. Bradford is a big, fast guy who can come in immediately and play special teams. If not for injuries, he'd be a first or second round grade. Could be Michael Bush type value in this spot.
7. Sixth Round, 186th overall (from Eagles via Lions): Deunta Williams, Safety, North Carolina
I would be pretty surprised if the Broncos didn't try to nab someone from North Carolina's top tier group of prospects. Williams had knee surgery so he will fall as the draft progresses, but this is a great value here. Williams was a 2nd round value type of guy before his injury, and I think this would be a solid pick, but it's a crap shoot at this point. You can redshirt Williams year one and he could make a serious impact year two. Similar value to Myron Rolle here.
8. Sixth Round, 189th overall (from Saints via Patriots): Julius Thomas, Tight End, Portland State
Julius Thomas is a popular guy to mock to the Broncos, mainly because they've shown a ton of interest in him. Tight end is a position that NEEDS to be upgraded this offseason, and Thomas is an intriguing prospect. Former basketball player with great athleticism and surprising blocking skills.
9. Seventh Round, 246th overall (compensation pick): Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, Wide Receiver, Iowa
I'm probably not going to get this pick right, so why not predict it to be DJK? The Broncos have injury concerns at receiver, and at this point in the draft what are you looking for? Guys who can contribute on special teams. DJK has the ability to be an All-Star type punt/kick return man, and he has starter upside at receiver. Who knows if he will go this late, but we will see.
To recap:
1. Von Miller, LB, Texas A&M
2. Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
3. Mason Foster, LB, Washington
4. Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State
5. Tyler Sash, S, Iowa
6. Allen Bradford, RB, USC
7. Deunta Williams, S, North Carolina
8. Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State
9. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, WR, Iowa
Breakdown
Offense: 4
Defense: 5
Can't wait to see what happens. Happy Draft!
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I like this very much
I would still prefer Dareus, it looks like the Broncos are taking Miller. Cecil Lammey from 102.3 here in Denver says Miller would play WLB, but I think he plays SAM as well.
Fox said he'd play SAM
Lammey makes no sense. DJ is best at Will, although he can play effectively at Mike also. Woody has a good chance to start at Will. Nobody has a good chance to start at SAM, not even DJ can do it.
Fox said a while back that Miller can play any linebacker position, but that he’d start at SAM
Von. Doom. Pow!
Well, do you know if Miller would make a better Will than DJ?
I really don’t know who’s playing which linebacker position. We could use a MLB as well.
Well Sayre, you nailed it last year
but I’m hoping all this Von Miller talk is a smokescreen to move down. I still believe if we stay at #2 Dareus will be the man.
Nice job on the draft coverage this year!
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I dig it
I like Daniels, but he’s the pick I’d trade out. There’s got to be a DT we could take there instead. Paea is a good pickup, and I think he’ll be there. But he’s not enough. A DT will cost twice as much in FA as a running back would. Again, I like the Daniels, and I like all the picks, I just think we need another DT somewhere in there. There are too many quality DTs in this draft for us not to maneuver around and gain two of them.
Von. Doom. Pow!
Rodney, I'm not even sure we'll take Paea if he is available...
I believe Marvin Austin or Kendrick Ellis will be on the board at #36 and they wet their pants to get Austin who if he played last year might be up there with Fairley in the draft…All I hope is everything works out for us and we get 3 or 4 great prospects…Go Broncos!
If they can't trade down a couple spots, I like Von
I must say I’m really hoping for 2 DT’s out of this draft tho.
would be totally okay with a draft like this
Don’t like Miller at #2 only because of salary reasons… but if EFX think they can make that work (and Miller’s value as a 3rd-and-long DE), I’m onboard.
As Styg said, if Paea is available at #36, that is grounds for wetting myself…. I’d be extatic, regardless of who we took #2 (though I can see big value in B.Carter if we take Dareus and Paea is gone).
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I though Sash was a 2nd or 3rd round talent
Do you really think he’ll be available in the 5th.
I do believe Von Miller could play in a 4-3 but I just don’t think he’ll be able to come into a 4-3 and be an instant star. He’s has the tools to do it but having played only one game as a 4-3 LB means he’s still got a ton to learn. Dareus will be an instant blue chip player, with Miller it will take some time.
All these experts saying he will be rookie of the year probably also expect him to go to a 3-4 team.
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by AlbertaBronc on Apr 28, 2011 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Like miller and would be ok with him
But my gut feeling is that Peterson will be the best player to come out of this draft. I think he’ll redefine how to play in the secondary. Reminds of the year I wanted Ed Reed desperately and we picked Lelie. Not saying Miller will be a fail like Ashley but just that feeling that we are going to miss on something. We’ll see. GO BRONCOS!
What is the differece between Von Miller & Aaron Curry?
Aaron Curry (Seattle 1st round couple yrs back) was supposed to be the man and he hasnt done to much i the league as of yet. Did he not have all the intagibles that Miller has?
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Seattle runs a 4-3 as well right
Vernon Gholston is another example of a 4-3 team drafting a 3-4 linebacker and having him bust.
The only difference between those guys and Miller is that both Curry and Gholston were converted to DE where as Miller will most likely be made a SAM with us.
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by AlbertaBronc on Apr 28, 2011 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Miller played Joker or basically a DE so somewhat the same scenario
im sure they know what they are doing but nurvous about a potential bust
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I think I understand what you meant here,
Vernon Gholston is another example of a 4-3 team drafting a 3-4 linebacker and having him bust
The Jets are (and where) a 3-4 team, not a 4-3 team. VG came to the NFL as a DE in a 4-3 at OSU. The Jets then switched him to an OLB in a 3-4. I hope some 4-3 team gives VG a chance to be what he is, a 4-3 DE. Maybe the Broncos, we need depth at that position.
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by AlbertaBronc on Apr 28, 2011 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
unfortunately
Gholston to me is Jarvis Moss 2.0.
both players were elite college DE’s with that fast first step the scouts just drool over. Unfortunately, neither has been able to develop the hand technique, or in Moss’s case (don’t know about gholston), the physical leverage to compliment the first step and be successful at the NFL level.
That first step is an absolute requirement to be a dominant edge rushher in the NFL, and why folks like Ayers, and this year Bowers, can be good players but probably not the dominant pass-rushing DEs like Freeney, Peppers, etc…. unfortunately, it also isn’t sufficient by itself to guaruntee success,
Maybe gholston can turn it around if he didn’t have to think so much about OLB’s other responsibilities…. but my guess is he would’ve flashed a lot more at least as a situational pass-rusher if he was ever going to put it together.
Moss's legs
Great fast twitch and zero sand, and too long to have leverage. It’s hard to play on toothpicks nowadays.
I think the old model of pass rush which emphasizes pure speed to get around pass blockers is flawed. The best pass rushers use the blocker’s leverage against him, e.g., Dumerivl. You have to deal with ‘junk’ if you want to pass rush. Fast to the corner is often ‘pushed wide.’ Great rushers feign wide and create a disorganized pocket. Containment is still an important responsibility for rushers but you need to compress the pocket and create uncertainty, over both an imminent collapse and where the escape route will be.
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Aaron Curry was a completely different style LB than Curry.
Aaron Curry was kind of a jack of all trades, pretty good at everything not exceptional at anything. Miller is a rush LB, you’re going to him rush the passer a lot more than Curry and probably drop back into coverage a lot less frequently.
Curry hasn’t been bad, he just hasn’t been much of a pass rusher. which is what the teams should have expected with a player that was kind of just pretty good at everything.
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by black_knight101 on Apr 28, 2011 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions
thanks...thats exactaly what i was looking for.
but i suppose you ment Curry is different than Miller rather than Curry is different than Curry
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Where to watch the draft?
Off topic but…I need to know a good place to watch the draft tonight ( I don’t have cable). I was looking for info. about the “Draft Party” for mile high report—couldn’t find it. Any suggestions?
1. Trade down and then take BPA or Bad ass DT
2. Stay at two and take Dareus
I know that TD is hosting a draft party at Jacksons
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by MTBroncosFan on Apr 28, 2011 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice job Sayre.
I wrote my one and only mock yesterday. And the only prospect that we have that is the same is Julius Thomas. I guess im going to have to take a back seat to the mock draft king here. But i really wanted to see Dareus in orange and blue. Hopefully Von can meet those expectations. Also dont really know much about Daniel Thomas but what i have seen he seems to run upright. but good value everwhere on your board.
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Sayre, great piece here
I don’t know how you write mock drafts so well, it’s a difficult thing to do to try and project where players will go and if the Broncos (or any team) will select them.
I see the Broncos taking Miller and I can’t disagree with it. Nor could I with Peterson or Dareus.
Denver finds themselves in a unique position drafting this high and they should use the selection at No. 2, not trade down.
Take one of these beasts, one of the guys that will be a star on the defense for 5-10 years, someone they can build around.
As far as all the offense in your mock, I can understand taking a RB, possibly even a TE, but I still think the Broncos should go all D.
for me
Von miller is a square peg about to go in a round hole if we draft him, sorry if you disagree with me, and no one get offended
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by DBroncs1414 on Apr 28, 2011 12:54 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought this same thing.
I’m in the house of “If we draft Miller, I’m not going to be happy about it at all.”
Everything about him just screams…mismatch.
I mean, he is a great prospect, and if we were still running the 3-4/5-2, then I would be almost ecstatic, but nothing about him says he will fit into a 4-3 SAM spot. Has anyone got any actual factuals about Miller dropping into coverage, shadowing a TE or RB out of the backfield, or anything other than him rushing the passer?
I would like more proof that he can do those things well enough to warrant a #2 overall pick.
But then again, I’m still in the draft Patrick Peterson camp. That kid is going to be special, and whoever drafts him is going to have the next Champ/Nnamdi/Darrelle clone.
Why not us?
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by Zogernaut on Apr 28, 2011 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not offended at all 1414 and in fact everyone should have their own logic of opinion without getting drilled for it...
One thing I’m hoping for if we draft Miller is this…Can he be the Freeney, Lewis or Willis this team needs? If that question is a resounding yes then I’m all over Miller. We need an impact player to cause the type of confusion DJ, WW or even Joe Mays hasn’t been able to create. The draft is so very deep at DT this year where it hasn’t been in the past and the two second rd picks will be very critical in drafting the DT of the future…Believe me after tonight they will be there…Tomorrow.
Are we the Raiders now?
OOOOO! Miller is fast! We have to take him!
Give me a break! Miller is a poor fit for our team. Miller is a project that we hope might be able to make the transition from DE to LB. Let him go to a team that has a place for him, with Buffalo or Houston being a good example, while we take a player that actually is a fit for our scheme. Give me Dareus, or Peterson, or Fairley, or even one of the very talented 4-3 DEs, but please not a project like Miller.
by ITPro on Apr 28, 2011 1:03 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
See my above reply to DBroncs1414
Totally agree
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I hope our draft is similar to this.
I love the Miller pick. I think the kid is a very rare talent and will be very effective in the 4-3 defense. Paea will be a fantastic addition. Everything I have seen on him shows he will be a very good player in this league. I would be pleased with Foster, but I wonder if someone better would be on the board at that pick, but I like it all the same. I like all the other picks and obviously the Broncos will not be able to meet every need this draft since we need about everything. A player I wouldn’t be surprised to get the nod somewhere would be USC DT Casey. That kid would be great for running downs. Once again, love the mock and hopefully we stop the bleeding starting tonight!
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by AvalancheRescueDog on Apr 28, 2011 1:16 PM MDT reply actions
I want Janoris Jenkins in the supplemental draft as well!
AJ Green recently said that he is a better cover corner than PP.
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Personally, I'd prefer Dareus
But I’ll take Miller. I’m just nervous taking a pass rushing linebacker at number two, especially with the switch to a 4-3. But I trust Fox knows what he’s doing in that respect.
Also, major props for the two Iowa guys (I can’t take my biases out of the Draft). Sash was awesome to watch in person because of the way he’s always near the ball, and DJK is guy who has the talent to go in the 3rd or 4th but some off the field issues will relegate him to the late rounds/free agency. If we can get him that late, I say do it. At Iowa when we were in 3rd and long, he ALWAYS made the play. Love him.
"Lighten up Francis."
I would love to have another DT in there (maybe Jurrell Casey, Jarvis Jenkins or Kenric Ellis)
Good picks but I’m not a fan of 2 RBs in the draft especially when we’ll still have a FA and RB is deeper in FA than most of the other defensive positions.
If we are able to come away with Paea then I’ll feel much better about not taking Dareus.
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Miller is a great pick
There is a potential for a bust with nearly every single guy? How do I know? Uhhh, history. So yes, if it’s Miller, he could bust. But there is a great argument for all players, especially Dareus, who might fit better in a 3-4 alignment as well.
So anyone thinking we should draft Dareus because Miller is out of position in a 3-4 isn’t being logical. Fairley is better suited for the 4-3 than Dareus. Of course, this is ALL speculation and the opposite could ring true. I mean, we don’t know. The Professionals don’t know. Nobody knows.
I love what Miller and Doom would bring to our team. I mean holy f’ing sh..tuff! We pick up some meat in Round 2 and our Defense just got A LOT better. A LOT. To have a Pass Rushing tandem would be absolutely incredible.
Whatever though. I would be happy with trading down and will probably swing from whoever we grab until I don’t……..
Uh, actually...
…Dareus played every position on the D-Line, from nose tackle to lining up outside of the TE. His versatility on the line is perhaps his strongest suit.
In a 3-4 he played both positions
Not in a 4-3. Please correct me again if I am wrong……..
by OC Bronco Fan on Apr 28, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
From his scouting report
“The most complete defensive lineman in the draft, Dareus has the versatility to play anywhere along the line and create mismatches. Is big, strong and powerful and consistently made his presence felt despite playing on a bad ankle much of the season. Has shown he can dominate and take over games, as he did in the BCS national title game. Is scheme-diverse and can play in any defense but might fit best inside in a "40" front, where he could be a terrorizing interior force.”
I'd rather have Dareus at 2
other than that it looks fantastic.
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Just heard Von Miller say he wants to play for Dallas on ESPN
This concerns me because literally EVERY other top prospect has the intelligence to give a generic, “I wanna play for who ever wants to pick me”-type answer. I’m quite sure that 99% of the players in this draft have a team they want to play for more than anybody else. But if you’ve watched coverage of the draft over the years, you know that nobody gives a legit answer when asked where they want to play. Usually I’m a big fan of a player being totally forthright, but in this case I prefer players play coy. Not a big fan of Miller’s response in this case.
"Lighten up Francis."
Uhhhh… He’s coming out of A&M, let him be a homer for a day before he gets drafted to anywhere but Dallas (maybe Houston, if the trade-up rumors are true).
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Houston would be a great fit...
…as would Buffalo. Both run a 3-4 and are in dire need of an outside pass rusher. Us, not so much.
Wasn’t saying I was for or against, just sayin’ let him say whatever he wants
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He can say whatever he wants, and I’m free to take issue with what he says.
"Lighten up Francis."
by BroncoHawkeye on Apr 28, 2011 5:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
he also said Colorado was the one place he would've liked to visit longer
Miller is from Texas, was he supposed to say “I hated it there”-? Players are fans and have favorite teams, too, but that doesn’t mean they’re hostile to the idea of playing for any other team.
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They didn’t ask him “How would you like to play for Dallas?” They asked where he wanted to play. I didn’t interpret it as an eff you to Denver, I simply said I don’t like his lack of basic football diplomacy that every other prospect shows. Every freaking year. The fact that he decided to share his feelings in that way might raise some questions is all.
Hooray for reading comprehension.
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by BroncoHawkeye on Apr 28, 2011 5:10 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Honesty V diplomacy
I give him points for answering honestly. He can go on a platitude-enriched diet later.
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Decent
Once again you don’t address the OL. You should get rid of Daniel Thomas and put in a RT or DT. Both would fill a larger need and the value would be much better.
One of: Carpenter, Brewer, Pinkston, Barksdale, Iljanona(sp?), Rackley, or Gibert in round three should be the pick. Ryan is gone and the RT is the biggest need on offense by far. Moreno is a three down starter when healthy in this league and we don’t need to waste picks on RB’s.
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Pretty good, but we could really really really really really use a 2nd and 3rd D-linemen.
ConradA to me "You should actually watch a Broncos game from a critical point of view. Put away the orange and blue glasses for a game and watch." Maybe I'll try that sometime Conrad, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that just yet.
We’re gonna need a bigger boat to fit all of the "really"s involved with that honest statement
Like, really really really really really really really really really really need to not be last in the league (or near it) AGAIN for stopping the run
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I Hope so much this is wrong
Miller’s downside looks a lot like DJ Williams to me. What he is good at is attacking. When he guesses right WOOOHOOO but when he guesses wrong it’s toast for his defense. Maybe he can be taught to inside contain at an NFL pace but it looks like he’ll be blown out. I’d rather see Patrick Peterson here then Miller. Give me a difference maker upfront or at least give me the most athletic MOFO in the draft but not a projected player that shows some very scary downside in live action.
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by HippoJohn on Apr 28, 2011 2:39 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Can I just say...
I’m excited that we’re picking defense for sure this year!!!
I think it was Perrish Cox. Don’t quote me on it. - Sayre Bedinger
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6442597
Skip to 1:31 in the video!!!
:D :D :D <-this.
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anyone else thinking
All the Von Miller talk is just to scare Arizona to trading up to #2?
5 would be the perfect spot, get some extra picks and still get whoever falls out of Marcues, Miller, and Von (with Cam and either Blaine or a WR going in the top 4) its highly likely one of those 3 could fall to us at 5.
Hmmmm.......very interesting......
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you betcha
But there’s a legitimate interest, too. Besides his pass rushing ability, which is the most desired trait for a defensive player, he fits under BPA logic. Scouts and personnel people were very, very impressed by his quickness at the Combine. His potential to create mismatches at the pro level is high. His scheme fit isn’t great but a player of his talent is someone you scheme around, just as we once did for Mecklenburg, who was allowed to pick his position on the field before the snap. It’s freelancing arrangement but it creates giant headaches for the offense.
The question is: who would they want so badly that they have to move? I see QB as a need, but is Gabbert the hot commodity? Seems a little unlikely given his BPA rankng and the amount of QBs available later. A fuzzy scenario in which someone needs to move up is possible. The fact that we can’t figure it out doesn’t mean it can’t exist. A lot of teams are looking to move (according to recent credible reports) so movement seems likely. BTW — the fact that teams can’t trade players could mean more pressure for movements, assuming that teams still feel the need to make transactions in order to successfully execute their draft day strategy.
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Derrell Johnson-Koulianos
From a talent perspective, I can’t complain, and seventh round picks have a low hurdle anyways, but I have to wonder about selecting J-K on the character criterion considering his recent drug arrest.
I don’t view character as a black and white distinction nor am ignorant of the ubiquity of drugs in college life, but the amount of drugs found at Derrell Johnson-Koulianos’s residence suggests more than casual usage.
…Forget about the marijuana. Try to get past the cocaine. It’s some of the pharmaceutical substances police reportedly found in DJK’s room that raise bigger questions:
• Zolpidem Tartrate, a medicine administered mainly to help the elderly get a good night’s rest. “It’s really unusual for young people to have sleeping medicines,” said Katherine Linder, a pharmacist at Medicap Pharmacy in rural Iowa.
• Diazepam, one of the original anxiety medications.
• Hydromorphone Hydrochloride (Diluadid), a very strong controlled substance used for extreme pain. Typically seen in the treatment of cancer patients and people who have had severe accidents, it’s stronger than morphine.
Prescribed medicines have legitimate usages and I’m not overly impressed with chemical names (note: I once gave Diazepam to a rat for a psychology experiment). The small pharmacopoeia in J-K’s residence could merely be artifacts of the medicinal history of the residents there. Whatever the case, he has some ‘splaining’ to do before we draft him. I lean towards offering a CFA contract to someone like this, complete with behavioral clauses.
******* It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. – Jiddu Krishnamurti
A little more research into the issue though shows that the drugs in his house belonged to his roommate, a drug dealer. Granted, horrible decision on living situation. But he’s not the Pablo Escobar character that this article portrays him as.
That being said, obviously any team drafting him needs to do their due diligence and make sure that they think he’s put the behavior that led to this incident behind him.
"Lighten up Francis."
by BroncoHawkeye on Apr 28, 2011 5:15 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
interesting, I didn't know the story
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I hate this
Quick someone name me a dominant non-3-4 outside linebacker…. no please someone. I know we could be in a hybrid defense with Miller playing the Terrell Suggs olb position, but we are playing a 4-3 and if we take Miller, I am okay with that as long as we get 2-3 dt’s I would prefer 3 including a space eater and a penetrator. If the top of the list is Lance Briggs then it doesn’t equate to a great defense. They started to slip when they lost Tommie Harris, a defensive tackle. I love Marcus Thomas, and I think the can be a good player but Fox rotates lineman and unless he has called Kris Jenkins and has him coming for certain then we need defensive tackles. Again if he is the second coming of Derrick Thomas or L.T. then we win, but he has never been compared to them. If the pick is Miller the next 2 better be Austin and Paea, and for the love of all things if we pick 2 rb’s and a wr I am going to freak out.
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a few pounds
The odd thing is that Miller at 237 is perceived differently than Miller at 247lbs. I’d be more concerned if Miller was a 260 pounder who couldn’t do anything except pass rush with his hand on the ground. But Miller was exemplary in pass coverage drills at the combine so pigeonholing him as a OLB34 seems unwarranted. Much of the resistance to his selection is based on the stereotype of him, which has some validity because of how he was used at A & M. It’s common to find players used at the college level in ways that don’t match their duties as a pro. The projection question for personnel people is has he shown the traits/skills necessary? Miller has, but I don’t deny that there are players — such as Vernon Gholston — who were failures at making this position switch. But if you examine the record, you discover that the projection of a player such as Gholston was faulty. And moving players to OLB34 often is, because lineman aren’t known for making s smooth switch. It far easier to move them from LB to DL, if they have the size to make the move.
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Derrick Brooks, LT, Wilber Marshall, Derrick Thomas
There have been plenty of dominate OLB in a 4-3
How about Lance Briggs, Keith Bullock, Keith Brooking, Chad Greenway, Willie Lanier, Carl Banks, Jack Ham, TJ, etc..
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and in the last ten years....
Okay, Brooks in the system he was in, but other than that, Greenway isn’t elite, Bullock might have been at one point and Brooking played MLB, and none of those were even the best players on their teams. But I do see a little more, the rest are old, and while that may seem like a cop-out the NFL has changed a lot. But I suppose that the focus should be the fact that are they in the right system. I just don’t know if it will be I would just rather have a DT that can be great in any system than a LB that could be an elite player if we hit a right system.
I understand the thought and if we can use them right I love him, and that being said I have full faith in Fox. I am just sick of a rotating defense I would love him to be a faster, stronger John Mobley I just think Dareus is a little more solid of a choice.

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