NFL Draft Results: A Few Good Questions With Denver Broncos GM Brian Xanders
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We've broken down the Denver Broncos 2011 NFL Draft dozens of different ways. We've talked about the picks, we've graded the draft and looked at the grades of others. We've ran poll after poll and seem to all feel at least pretty good about what happened this past weekend.
Today, however, I was given the opportunity to discuss the Broncos draft with Denver Broncos GM Brian Xanders. Xanders, along with John Elway and Broncos head coach John Fox, were the 'three-headed monster' in charge of the Draft, and to take it one step further, Xanders is a link to the Broncos recent troubled past. Below is the transcript of our conversation:
MHR - While I don't want to dwell on the past, I feel this is a question that needs asked. How was this draft process different than the past two drafts with the Broncos, and those you experienced in Atlanta?
XANDERS - It was a lot different than any other draft process than I have ever gone through. The process was a lot more detailed in April - especially compared to the past 2 years - we spent about 3 straight weeks here going through every column on the board, every player, talking about the character, the mental, all the background information, psychological tests and then watching the tape again, watching the Combine, the school workouts, the Bowl games, the All-Star Games. It was a really in-depth process.
It was a collaboration of a lot of work a lot of people put in. We involved our coaches a lot more - it felt like there was a lot of good chemistry there as we drew up the draft board and it really made it easy on Draft Day to take the right guys.
MHR - A lot has been said about you, John Elway and John Fox and the collaborative effort between the three of you. Was that effort advantageous this weekend, considering all the needs you need to fill?
XANDERS - The collaborative effort and the input from Elway and Fox was great. They have different experiences from what I have and like I said we are all different. Elway brings that player perspective, he's a Hall of Famer that really knows what he wants in that locker room and knows what he wants the team to look like and which guys we want to steer away from.
Coach Fox comes from a lot of different systems - Steelers, Giants and his own with the Panthers - so he brings a different perspective, especially on the defensive side, so it's one of those things where we all work together well and there's a great chemistry.
MHR - Sometimes it is hard for us fans to remain patient and see the big picture. Looking at this draft and the way it fell for the Broncos, was it a goal this year to be patient in the Draft and remain true to your Draft Board?
XANDERS - Yea, we are going to stick to the board with all our drafts. The reason it seemed - and everyone is wondering about the defensive tackle thing - there were players taken in the first and second round that were gone and left a huge void there at the defensive tackle position. We really felt great, as we picked our guys, they were the best players on the board for the Broncos.
Some of these guys were first or second ranked guys overall at their own position, so we are excited about it - like (Nate) Irving was the #1 MIKE linebacker on our board and we got him. It's exciting to see that and we are always going to stay true to our board.
MHR - That leads me to my next question. Regarding defensive tackle - a lot has been made of that specifically. There was plenty of talent there at the top of the draft, but do you think it was overvalued a bit in reality - say from the 3rd round down - than the perception that there was so much talent available throughout the draft?
XANDERS - There were just some good players that all got picked early. There were 12 defensive lineman, I think, picked in the first round, then in the 2nd round there are a couple left. It's something that happens - it happens every year with the offensive tackle board too - the good ones go early.
We were prepared. We have Marcus Thomas as a RFA, we have Kevin Vickerson here under contract, we have Ryan McBean who was a 16-game starter a couple years back. We still have a whole free agency board full of defensive linemen, so we are excited about our process and we have a strategic plan on how we are going to do this and we are ready to go.
MHR - Talk about the trade for a moment. Is that something that was set up on Friday between Round 1 and Round 2 should a player you are targeting is not available you'll do the deal or does it happen more-so on the fly when you are on the clock?
XANDERS - Usually a couple calls are made before the draft saying, "Hey, In the 2nd Round we'd like to trade up because you have two 2's" or things like that. Really, the true action happens while you are on the clock or a couple picks away - another team will call in and say we'll give you x, y and z for your pick and we always call them back and tell then whether we'll do it or not or renegotiate it higher.
MHR - Looking at the Draft as a whole, you selected 3 linebackers, 2 tight ends and 2 safeties. A bunch of athletic guys. Are some of those decisions made looking at depth as a whole? Specifically, special teams? Meaning, if you had a DT and a LB graded evenly would you lean more towards the more athletic player with special teams in mind?
XANDERS - Special teams is part of it. We call it "4th Down Value" and it is evaluated by all our scouts and our special teams coaches look at it. It's one of the things that is important, we play 30-40 special teams plays per week in the games so that value is definitely high on our board, it is a good trait to have, it's how you get active on game day and those safeties, linebackers and tight ends are all athletic enough to play special teams.
MHR - Orlando Franklin looks to be the prototypical John Fox offensive lineman, when I think of the big, mean, nasty guys along the Carolina Panthers offensive line. He can play inside and outside, but with questions surrounding Ryan Harris and his status, was some of motivation around this pick due to the fact Tim Tebow is a left-handed quarterback and the need for someone to protect his blindside at Right Tackle?
XANDERS - Yea, the Right Tackle position - we have Ryan Harris back as a Restricted Free Agent if that's the system the League and NFLPA chooses - but, it is important to have a good pass protector there but also to have the physicality and run power that he has - he's a very explosive blocker and he does fit that John Fox mold at right tackle - he had (Jeff) Otah and we watched him a little bit during the free agency period. We're definitely excited about him - he's got a big upside, he's played guard and tackle, he's played for a long time at a good University and we're excited about him.
MHR - What kind of player are the Broncos getting in Von Miller?
XANDERS - Von is an explosive player in everything he does. His ability to rush the passer and get past these offensive tackles at the college level is rare - it is something I had never seen at that level in the last 15 drafts. He's an exciting guy because he is so athletic, so his versatility will rise as we play different offenses. He can cover any tight end in the League with his speed and size - he's 6-3, 248 and he runs a 4.42-4.48 range.
He's got that ability, we're going to teach him more zone coverage drops and all that relating to play-action passes and drop-back passes, but he's an explosive guy that's very athletic, that's very productive in both the run and the pass so we are excited about him.
MHR - So you feel Miller is the type of guy that you can plug in on Day 1 and he can be a 3-Down player?
XANDERS - Absolutely. He's going to start out at SAM linebacker in this 4-3 and then on 3rd down - all the sub plays - he'll go down and rush wherever we put him - left, right middle - anywhere.
MHR - Talk about the safeties. You select Rahim Moore and Quinton Carter, the top-2 rated safeties in this draft, yet you have Brian Dawkins, Renaldo Hill, David Bruton, Darcel McBath and Kyle McCarthy - was this to add depth and competition or do these guys fit the mold that John Fox and Dennis Allen are looking for on defense?
XANDERS - Yea, they are the two top-rated safeties coming in. They both have ball skills - in terms of interceptions - I think 14 and 8 respectively - they are good tacklers, they are athletic, they are good teammates - both are really solid all-around players.
As for the competition, we are going to let them all compete and let the best man win. We are going to add competition to every position group we have - that's what we have always been trying to do and that is what we will continue to do.
MHR - Regarding the quarterback position. At what point does a quarterback competition become unhealthy?
XANDERS - I think it's every practice, every day they are going to compete. We are going to put the best 11 out there and we're gonna try to defeat the opponent every week and it's something that's gonna happen throughout the season. We've benched guys during the season at different positions like offensive tackle last year and left guard the year before. We're always going to want competition and let that mature and let it evolve and let the coaches really evaluate that. We say every player creates their own role.
MHR - The Broncos' final pick intrigues me. All Jeremy Beal did on Saturdays at Oklahoma was make plays. Were you surprised to see him fall to the 7th Round? Is it exciting to get a guy that was so productive at a Big-12 school that late in the Draft?
XANDERS - We were definitely excited to see him there at the bottom of the 7th. He was very productive in college - 57 tackles for loss and 29 sacks. He was really the highest remaining guy on our board in the 7th Round. He's a productive guy that makes a lot of plays, we're surprised he fell down that far - that's probably because of the Combine or Senior Bowl stuff - but we really evaluate off the football tape and we're really excited to have him. He's going to compete at the defensive end position and hopefully he comes in and contributes for us.
MHR - Well, Brian, speaking for many Broncos fans, we are excited about this draft class, about the stability that you, John Elway and John Fox seem to have brought back to the organization and we're definitely excited to see - once we get football back, and we will, what you and the coaches can put on the field. We look forward to an exciting 2011 season, thank you for your time.
XANDERS - We appreciate MHR and the site's reporting on the Broncos and the fans are really important to us. We are going to continue to do our best to win games so that the fans can enjoy the Broncos every week. Thanks for having me.
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Excellent read and very professional
Thanks to all of you who have contributed to making this the most informative draft ever, its people like me that really appreciate all the time and effort that go into this site and the information it brings.
Good on ya mate!!!
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by Downunder Thunder on May 2, 2011 11:02 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
might as well throw mine in here
I never even really noticed the draft before. I would see who we drafted and let the msm tell me how the Broncos did. I learned a lot this year and I thank all of you, staff and fellow fans for all the information and insight.
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damn, I’m super-impressed with this interview. And with Xanders, he comes through very well in this format. very nice job.
I agree
Xanders can come off a bit…hmmm…how shall we say…not very well spoken. It’s not to say he’s dumb or doesn’t know what he’s doing, it’s just he’s not quite as charismatic as guys like Elway or Fox.
On paper he comes off a little better.
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Well, I agree to an extent
This read much better and more professional than typical Xanders on camera.
One thing keeps coming to mind though. He has always been very quick to pretend he had no input in any of our past drafts or trades, etc. Essentially saying, “hey it wasn’t me…..it was the other guy.”
If that is true, then just what DID he do as GM?
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I agree go4broncos
It’s not that the guy is shallow, he just isn’t a very good public speaker. He tends to trip on words a lot and is kinda confusing to listen to, however, what he has to say is intelligent and thought out, it just gets jambled in the process. As long as he’s a brain for our organization, IDC how well he speaks or not. Go Broncos!!!!!
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Great interview
I agree with Tunesmith, Xanders comes off very well in this interview. I was very skeptical of this front office, but if they can work together like this than that is a pretty diverse group of guys.
Kudos on the excellent questions John. It is rare to see an interview with these types of questions.
Great interview I thought
Good questions too. I noticed he skirted around the Tebow protection question. Not that I would have expected anything more revealing about future qb plans.
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Thanks Mr. Bena! Great interview!
They did a great job putting together the board for this draft. I never knew about the “4th Down Value” paraphrase. It was good to hear that they stay true to the board. Great questions John. Thanks!
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Excellent interview
Loved getting their perspective from the questions about Miller, Franklin, DTs and FAs. The reasoning process is much more down to earth… and if it doesn’t work out like it should I’d guess we’d be back to having big problems! hahaha!
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This site just gets better and better! Actually you guys are at a level where I would gladly pay to have access to MHR, and that speaks volumes of the quality you guys bring!
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Seriously!
Shut the hell up, dude!
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Thing is, if this site goes to pay per view, then some other site with similar content will pop up. It may not be as good, but you’d see a decline in users here at MHR which would diminish it’s value. I think the site gets some revenue due to the adds, but not sure how much.
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"..but we really evaluate off the football tape"
I love this quote from Mr Xanders. This is excellent news. I am a firm believer that College production on the field trumps Combine results anyday. Glad to see EFX taking the same approach.
What would Blackie Lawless do?
Shanny Scouting
I’m sure I read somewhere that, at least in the earlier days, Shanny’s scouting was mostly done by asking coordinators to send in highlights of players they thought they might like. That, compounded with the Shanny not working out players that the organisation was interested in led to picks like Middlebrooks. It’s a shame we don’t still have the Goodmans working in the scouting department, but their presence really started a draft renaissance…and whilst McD liked to reach, I think by and large the scouting guys were pretty spot on – obviously in ‘09 they almost had to start scouting from scratch because of the vastly different systems Josh brought and so some of the picks were a bit off, but late round gems such as Kuper, Doom, Hillis and Thompson really show how far the department’s grown in the last few years.
I don’t think it’s fair to say McD reached on his picks. Most of his picks fell in line with the expectations of where that player was to be selected.
One place where McD failed in the draft was with his projecting (Ayers to OLB), D Thomas to deep threat, Beadles to RT, Moreno to every down back, Seth Olsen to utility lineman.
Ayers is a D-linemen, D Thomas is better with the ball in his hands, Beadles is a G and Moreno is too injury prone to be an every down back and Olsen was probably just a RT. If you project poorly the rest of your draft won’t address your real needs.
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by McGeorge on May 3, 2011 7:45 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Luckily, it looks like a lot of those projections won't be a problem in the future
With Lloyd as the deep threat, Beadles being slotted at G, and Ayers moving back to the DL we have all those players back into the roles that they should be in.
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by black_knight101 on May 3, 2011 8:59 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree. You won’t find find McGeorge among those openly or secretly wishing we’d kept Josh another season or two. Even if Josh goes on to greatness somewhere else, what he was doing in Denver was not working and it wasn’t about to…
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by the new Bradfather on May 5, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
this is what intrigues me most.
doom and ayers are back at their “natural” spots. add to that f.a. if and when it happens and our impressive draft class, i suspect our defense will be more prepared this year than it has been since ’05 or so. for my money, seeing what becomes of this defensive unit is even more exciting to me than the qb situation.
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agree with grindcore, and somewhat with McG
the DEF side is much more interesting, and the relative simplicity simplicity of 4-3 roles compared to the “do everything” 3-4 zone blitz schemes should help our relatively young team get up to speed quickly.
that said, I don’t totally fault McD for projecting folks out of their positions (into a 3-4). There were advantages to it. For example, while Doom was previoulsy a DE, he always had weakness as a run stopper at the point of attack. Moving him wide into an OLB spot may have created more complexity (and created issues with pass defense – or at least limitations in disguising the scheme since he rushed 95% of the time), it also substantially mitigated his run DEF weakness. Ayers, when healthy, also looked pretty good as an OLB and seemed to have enough athleticism for zone drops, etc. (if not the speed/acceleration to really challenge the edge on passrush in some zone-blitzes). I agree Ayers will be fine, and maybe even better, as a strongside DE, but in some ways we may simply be trading Doom’s coverage liability for a run liability… it is kind of a wash, and in the end, it will depend on whether the LBs, safeties, etc. can compliment him so the unit as a whole works… something we couldn’t do for much of the past 2 years.
My bigger problem was trying to use 1-gap slashers like M.Thomas and Fields as 3-4 NTs/2-gappers… to me that was destined for failure, but not having a good NT was from the beginning going to be the achilles heel of switching to a 3-4 so its also hard for me to fault him either… we simply didn’t have anything better in many cases.
Also agree with with AlbertaBronc below that DThomas wasn’t misprojected as a deep threat… he just couldn’t ever stay healthy enough to really show it last year (or now it seems this year too).
To me, McD did a good job of clearingly setting a scheme, and seemingly was slowly filling all the needed roles, but injuries and other issues caught up to him… and thus he needed to go, even if that meant we will never know whether he could’ve turned the corner on fitting talent to his system.
I agree with you everywhere expect that D. Thomas isn't a deep threat
He was the best deep threat receiver in the draft last year and McD got that spot on. Dez Bryant was the top possession receiver in last years draft.
D. Thomas problem was he was very raw. Coming out of college he only knew how to run a few routes and would drop easy catches on occasion but when you see his blazing speed mixed with his size, the first thing you thought of physically was Randy Moss. Hopefully his ruptured achilles won’t take away from any of the explosiveness he had in college.
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by AlbertaBronc on May 3, 2011 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t know, I’m not a Doctor, but I’ve read that particular injury is rather nasty for explosive guys like DT. Without his top shelf athleticism, he is a 6th round prospect.
So we better hope he rehabs right.
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Hardly a 6th round prospect...c'mon....he ran in the 4.3's!!!...so even if he is running mid 4.4's he is till faster than 75% of WR's out there....and he has better hands than Brandon Marshall. Think thats a HUGE over statement!
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DT dropped a few easy passes in 2011. His hands remain suspect.
His athleticism is what makes him special, not his hands, route running ability or smarts.
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He also made Revis look ordinary and his route running was a LOT better than advertised. I think he can be one of the best in the NFL.
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Wow. I wish I felt that way.
Instead, I wish we’d just stayed at #24, taken Tebow and used the 2nd 3rd and both 4 round picks we traded away to get Thomas and Tim in round 1.
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Thomas might have been there in round 2 anyway
With that foot injury and all.
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I really like bey-bey's potential
but you’re totally correct that all the wheeling dealing of McD might have been his stupidest fault. He gave up a lot of value trying to get “his guys” rather than letting the draft come to him… in many ways this was the essence of his “arrogance”, in that he thought he was so much smarter than the rest of the league that he could give up value overall if he could just wheel and deal to get “his” guys. Shanny was in some ways the same way.
What he, and Shanny too, didn’t totally adjust for was the impact of chance and uncertainty in getting NFL talent. They really might be smarter than everyone else… but all of a sudden Doom, Bey-bey, 7 Rbs, Al Wilson, and/or Clady get hurt, and all that value given up suddenly shows up as lack of depth or talent in other positions…. with predictable results.
I think there is a balance, and McD definitely exceeded it (even if I really liked many of the players he grabbed).
You can go too far the other way too… while I generally like who EFX grabbed this year, I’m uncertain if passing up on high rated DTs (a HUGE need), even if they weren’t “top of the board”, is worth the extra depth/competition we brought in at safety, LB, etc. If we can grab FAs or get some injuries where the depth helps, they look brilliant… if things don’t work out, we may have the 32nd ranked rush defense again.
This is the art vs. the science of the draft… Going againstt the wisdom of crowds is gutsy. Only time will tell if EFX are better at that balance than McD, etc. I’m hopeful the answer is yes…
by cjfarls on May 4, 2011 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wish DT could be healthy
then again I wish there were a new CBA by now too :(
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by the new Bradfather on May 5, 2011 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Did he totally ignore the QB competition question?
Not one word about QB’s in that answer……… :/
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He really didn't answer John's question
at all.
This bothered me, however “We say every player creates their own role.”
I have to hope they will not use Tebow as the fullback when they need short yardage runs.
It doesn’t seem smart to punish the body of our (hopefully) future QB.
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That's not his decision, in the end. The GM's job is to get players into the building. The coach's job is to determine which of those players will see starting time.
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by Troy Hufford on May 3, 2011 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
His answer on Irving
being the No. 1 middle linebacker on their board cleared up questions I had about why Irving over Jurrell Casey and a couple other defensive tackles still available. Nice work Mile High Report. This interview was more in-depth than what’s offered on the Denver Post these days. Solid questions and Xanders seemed to really listen carefully and address them well.
I’m not happy about not drafting a DT in the 2011 draft, but I’d say ILB was probably our biggest shortcoming on the entire roster. Assuming we resign Justin Bannon + Vickerson, we are better at DT than we would have been with Haggan and Mays at ILB. At lot better really.
I do understand the desire and need to load up on LB and S. But you can’t play DTs 65 snaps a game or 1,000 snaps a season. We need several capable bodies at the DT position for rotational purposes. We haven’t drafted DT since Marcus Thomas in 2007 (Carlton Powell had an UFA grade so that waste of a pick doesn’t count). Based on the high bust rate and the need for fresh bodies, I’d make a point to draft at least one DT every draft (or at least 2 for every 3 drafts). If you don’t have the enough capable players at DT, your key guys get worn down in games and as the year goes along. You lose battles in the 4th quarter and December.
Not having enough or good DTs has cost Denver dearly the last few years as we’ve sucked in both end of game situations and late in the season.
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by McGeorge on May 3, 2011 7:26 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
In free agency
Denver needs to pick up at least two veteran DTs. The team should also grab a couple, like Ian WIlliams, who went undrafted. That would give us sufficient depth. Marcus Thomas is also a great athlete who simply hasn’t fulfilled his potential at the pro level yet. Fingers crossed.
i agree totally. this couldn't be more correct.
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Completely agree with that approach
Why not draft a huge body every year? There are plenty of late round DT’s that developed in to solid starters and it’s hard to imagine why that approach isn’t taken.
And Irving was my favorite college player last year and no I am not an NC State fan. I watched an NC State game early last season and they talked about his accident, showed pics, etc. Then I watched him fly around the entire game and make play after play. He was a man among boys, even then. I don’t pretend to be able to project players at the pro level but I can tell you I loved watching him in college and I am ecstatic to have him as a Bronco. I can only imagine that another year removed from his accident will only allow his body to get that much stronger.
by OC Bronco Fan on May 3, 2011 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow
Great interview, and the two biggest things IMO:
1. He said he expects Ryan Harris back as an RFA
2. Basically said Von Miller will be Clay Matthews for our defense.
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Yeah, that struck me too.
He expects Harris will be back, depending on what happens in league negotiations. Good news. And the confidence he (they) have in Vick and Thomas. Interesting.
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by azbroncomaniac on May 3, 2011 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Considering how well the players are doing in court, I would not expect Harris back.
The players are very likely going to demand UFA after year 4 if they make concessions on a lower salary cap. I bet UFA after year 4 is an issue where the players will dig their heels into cement, like the owners will on the court issue (taking power away from the courts in the next CBA).
My educated guess is that Ryan Harris, Marcus Thomas and all other FAs with four or more years of service will be UFA in a few months. And Ryan Harris will be gobbled up very quickly. Ryan is an elite pass blocking RT and pass happy teams will jump at the chance to have him.
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I'm not counting on Harris either
If we can get him back, it would be great to not have to rely on Beadles or Franklin at RT.
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by black_knight101 on May 3, 2011 8:57 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Lets just say I’m not thinking Super Bowl next season. As Ted Bartlett would say, an injury prone O-linemen is something you just don’t have in the NFL. Unlike the D-linemem, the O-linemen never come out of games and your starting five should be pretty much intact all season.
I think very highly of Harris, but I guess injury proneness (not a word?) along the O-line is not tolerated like it would be for most other positions on a roster (save QB – they can’t get hurt either).
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Are you taking into account the fact that a lack of a stay means the lockout ends and until the owners present the players with an acceptable CBA, we go back to the 2010 rules, which would make players like Harris and Thomas RFA’s, and depending on how quickly the owners operate, they will likely sign their tenders and make some money.
Now, I could be wrong, but if there is free agency with 2010 rules until we have a new CBA, my guess is that it will be a lot like last year, where all RFA’s are brought back and guys with 6 or more years are UFA’s. That doesn’t exactly bode well for our options at DT, and some RFA’s could hold out on signing their tenders until a CBA is signed, which is risky because they wouldn’t be able to get to work.
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 3, 2011 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
The last thing the players want is to revert to the 2010 rules. Most everyone slashed payroll in the upcapped year. The concept of a Dallas or Redskins outspending everyone turned out to be a farse.
The players will do their damn-dest to avoid such a fate. I think the chances of playing 2011 under the 2010 rules is about 0% because neither the owners or players want that.
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The last thing the players want is to revert to the 2010 rules.
All I have been hearing is the exact opposite, to be frank. From all I have heard, the players loved the old rules and it was the owners who opted out…Again, from what I have heard from literally everyone I have talked to, your assessment does not match up with the wishes of the players.
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 3, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
There is no way you heard the players loved the 2010 rules. They hated them, especially the RFAs. The players loved the 2006-2009 rules. Guys like V Jackson and McNiell sat out a lot of the 2010 season because the hated their tenders so much. Ditto Logan Mankins. Tell me another year where three star players sat out so much of a season.
What guy would want to play for $2MM a year on a one year deal with no signing bonus when his open market value was $9MM per year with a $15MM signing bonus (V Jackson and McNeill).
You’ve got your views wrong on what the players want. I can promise you they don’t want a return to 2010 rules which increased UFA from year 4 to year 6, two franchise tags and no salary cap floor, which was a much bigger issue than ceiling.
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Yes
2010 was a HORRENDOUS season for the players. Everyone knows such a format is unattainable and REALLY undesirable for the long-term.
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by the new Bradfather on May 3, 2011 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions
this is the power of labor law for the owners
As long as the owners want, they can impose the 2010 rules on the players unilaterally… the players knew that when they decertified.
While the players don’t like it, it probably is better than the owners last offer which was only ~40-45% of revenue vs. the currrent ~53%…
So basically, the 2010 rules suck for everyone…. the owners don’t want to pay so much overall as wella s to untested rookies that don’t perform. The players don’t like the restrictions on movement, even though the overall money is better.
This is why they will eventually reach a new deal… but why we likely will play under 2010 rules this year.
I agree
next offseason will be SO much better
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by the new Bradfather on May 5, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Good News
at least we know when, if the stay is agreed to be “permanent,” an expedited hearing will occur, June 3, exactly one month from today. In the interim, we’ll see if league business opens. It appears a decision will be made on this point within the next 48 hours, if Andrew Brandt of National Football Post is to be believed. He is often irrefutable.
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by the new Bradfather on May 3, 2011 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions
No doubt on Miller and the pick wasn't that hard for them to make considering all things on our LBer corp...
Miller will be used all over the front 7 in different schemes and alignments. What we will see from the past few years will be refreshing instead of disgusting.
"Three Headed Monster"?
Sorry, but that seems to be a bit phoney and insultiuve.
It reads worse...
than it sounded when I said it. Plus, I didn’t want to use EFX. Point taken, however…
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are the real Three Amigos?
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on May 3, 2011 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions
You can't beat the genuine article!

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by the new Bradfather on May 3, 2011 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Loved the Amigos
In the day… Would like to see a good copy of that video with them in it.
Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
True
Plus, technically I think the Three Amigos were considered outlaws, in a sense, and that fits the original group much more… Well, at least Vance.
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on May 3, 2011 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Vance was an outlaw
but I love my Arizona Wildcats who become Broncos, here’s looking at you Spence Larsen!
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by the new Bradfather on May 5, 2011 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
... was some of motivation around this pick due to the fact Tim Tebow is a left-handed quarterback and the need for someone to protect his blindside at Right Tackle?
I love this question. Slickway to try and get some information revealed and it even drew a half answer instead of a complete tap dance!
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So you guys want Orton for a 2012 2nd rounder? Maybe a 3rd and 5th?
Kyle has a great rapport with Brandon Marshall, unlike Chad (regression) Henne.
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by the new Bradfather on May 3, 2011 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions
You are crazy. that is the worst trade ever for Miami.
I’d take Sean Smith and a 6th rounder for Orton.
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but perfect for us
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by the new Bradfather on May 3, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Vontae Davis is rounding into a shutdown CB. I’d trade Orton and Moreno to Miami for him.
Welcome to Denver Von Miller.
Lets cut some Moreno some slack until after this season...I think he is going to be a very good back for us!
FIRE DE MAURICE SMITH...he can go suck dog balls for all I care!
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ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT WE HAVE IN TEBOW? Watching Kyle orton is like watching re-runs of the Brady Bunch...you always know whats going to happen and makes you feel sick at the end!
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As long as his health improves
and We don’t see any form of consistent injury… If he strains a hamstring or something again, I’ll be content to call for a different running back, but I still have high hopes for Knowshon. I’m not counting him out at all.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on May 3, 2011 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Uhhh no.
I’d rather not pass around a QB I dislike between my two teams. Miami does need to do… something though, about the QB position. Now if Tebow is feeling appreciated by the front office….
:)
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*isn't, if he isn't feeling appreciated.
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"Now when I go to the bathroom I find out who my friends are." - Jake Scott after both broken hands were in casts following the 1972 season
John you did us proud and asked questions the MSM haven't...Great job.
One question I was hoping you would pop was; Considering moving back into the first round to select Nick Fairley, how much would the Broncos had to give up to make that happen? I am just curious and would like to know the answer if there is one…Thanks for the interview.
I think this interview makes Elway's contribution pretty clear
The changes that came with Elway were including all of the coaches, being much more in depth in their projections, and focusing more on teamwork to get the board right. He also seems to know what type of players he wants for the Broncos even if he doesn’t have experience with the actual grading of the prospects. As expected, this year Elway’s job was to help with big picture things in the teams operation and scouting, and it seems to have given good results.
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by black_knight101 on May 3, 2011 8:55 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Great job,
John, what would you have to say about Xanders tone about the picks and your questions?
by worleybird on May 3, 2011 9:36 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
John, terrific interview!
Your insight brought some good point out of Xanders. In the midst of all this same ol’, same ol’ interviewing we’ve endured in the media, you presented some refreshing slants to your questions and actually conveyed what was on the minds of us “lay” fans out here. Thanks for that.
BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!
Harris, Thomas, et al.
Its about money for the players v. value for the teams and the right fit for both. If Harris and Thomas are freed up in the rules going forward, so will a few other players the Broncos could use. Unless a player has a particular grudge against his former team or coach, the former team will have as good a chance to get him as any other and maybe better. With a popular coach like Fox, I don’t see the Broncos having a particular disadvantage signing Harris or Thomas, or getting a reasonable equivalent or better. Harris and Thomas are not looking at returning to an offense/defense run by the former coach with whom they may have had issues. This will depend upon how good a sales job Fox can deliver. He got Bailey to re-sign. Now the free agent players will be able to see the team’s chances of winning going forward with the draft picks. Have some faith. The only player I foresee a problem for the Broncos signing might be Kris Jenkins, who reportedly had a difficult time with Fox in Carolina. But other former Fox players reportedly hold Fox in high regard.
by OrangeandBluesBros on May 3, 2011 10:56 AM MDT reply actions
Very nicely done.
I enjoyed the read. As another poster said, one of the many reasons I love this place.
Sometimes, I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
This was very informative interview and very much appreciated
One guy Xanders did not mention of the D Tackles that was added to the Roster Dec.9 2010 and the player that may rotate with big Vick is 27 year old 6’4" 325 lbs Louis Leonard . Leonard spent last season on Carolina’s roster I do not know if he was a practice player for sure but I would think so , he did not play a down for the Broncos last year so we don’t have any idea how good this guy is but they must have seen something they liked in him .
well done, john!
it’s been fun to see the status of MHR going from kind of a blog site to a place that the Broncos organization is recognizing as an essential part of their PR rounds. great stuff, and looking forward to more of it.
I'm not sugarcoating this.
by oxmouth on May 3, 2011 11:26 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Would like to know...
…a little more about Xanders’ input on signing Free Agents the last two years. It’s been widely reported that McDaniels ran point on the draft, but how much input did Xanders have on free agency?
I’m a little concerned about signing Defensive Tackles in Free Agency considering how much the Broncos paid the combination of Jamal Williams, Jarvis Green, Ronald Fields and Justin Bannan. It seems like Elway has more control than Xanders, but will he have to sit down and negotiate the FA contracts too?
Don’t get me wrong, the draft was a solid one and I can envision every single guy not only making the team, but contributing. The kid from Cal isn’t a great athlete but he’s a good football player. So it’s obvious the new regime is focusing on game tape.
But not only are Vickerson, McBean (the facemasking machine), Thomas and Leonard big question marks as far as being productive, but what about depth?
This gang of three we have may be establishing new precedents.
We have heard of the Patriot Way, the Giants’ Way, Shanny’s Way, an of course the Scourge of the Crypt Keeper. Now, we take 3 individuals from varied backgrounds and expertise (contracts, coaching, and a heavily engaged former player committed to the team, with each having three different personalities and areas of strength. By some stroke of luck, we ended up with a cohesive group which meshes well. If this group stays in place long enough to establish a successful track record, and leads us back to the SB, this new FO structure may become known as the Bronco Way.
Thanks Mr. Bena and Mr. Xanders!!
Another great question, that I’d be interested to know his (or any Broncos staff/coach) answer to (I already know what the/most players answer would be – yes);
If he ever wishes there was a ‘fast forward to the regular season’ button, like We all do, sometimes? Or if he relishes this point, and getting everything in line, etc.
Anywhay, great stuff, I tell you, MHR rocks almost as much as the Broncos! That sure almost sounds like an insult to MHR, but We all know it isn’t even close, considering. These were some great questions, with some quenching answers.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on May 3, 2011 1:03 PM MDT reply actions
102.3 The Ticket
John I heard you last week on the The Ticket radio program. Is this going to be a regularly scheduled event. Or are you only on with Vic & Gary when they need an INFORMED opinion?
TIME TO BELIEVE. BRONCO Champions are being forged as we speak
Thanks Xanders for the interview!
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by Sergio AppleSeed on May 3, 2011 9:28 PM MDT reply actions
Nice job, John!
Very nice to get an interview with the inside guys.
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