So what happens if....
by dr.mort on May 4, 2011 1:28 PM MDT
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the Lockout takes out the whole season? I know it's unlikely, and even if there aren't games in Sept, the season could still be salvaged with a 13 games or some revised schedule of the current model. Obviously, like all of us, I abhor the thought of no football this year, and I look forward to some sort of agreement, and seeing FA this year and progress through training camp, and hopefully 9 or more wins this year. But let's say there's no 2011 season at all.
Does Denver then draft 2nd overall next year?
I Tweeted this question to Adam Schefter a few months ago, and he didn't responded.
It's only the braintrust at MHR that can solve this difficult questions.
PS - Not intended to create any comments related to or about 'Andrew Luck,' but I can't control your brains.
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It would not be the worst thing if the lockout ended the 2011 season and we got the 2nd overall pick again in 2012 without having to go through the butt kickings on Sunday’s that lands such a draft slot.
Welcome to Denver Von Miller.
That would put Carolina at #2
and their not picking a QB again…
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
I meen Carolina at #1 again
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
How pissed would they be… They stuck themselves with Newton and had to trade out of the Luck pick…
That’s too crazy for me to comprehend. I have no idea what they’d do… Maybe try to trade Newton without Cam ever playing a game for them and one year of no football rust under his belt? They’d get 60 cents on the dollar…
Welcome to Denver Von Miller.
you're right. that's wild.
It also means that I hope broncosfansd doesn’t read this. Because now he’ll start theorizing about all the ways the broncos front office can sabotage contract negotiations of the lockout stays on. and he’ll probably mock 79 scenarios of how we’d do that.
San Diego or South Dakota?
I’m guessing he’s from the Dakotas because no one who lives in SoCal should have enough time to come up with 14 Blaine-Gabbert-to-DEN draft scenarios.
I do like that guy’s passion tho. If you’re gonna be a fan, go all out.
by dr.mort on May 4, 2011 4:32 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
he is from San Diego
but lives in Denver.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
Don't knock the South Dakotans...they don't have time either...they usually work a full day
Broncos forever.....bring on the season.
I’ll give you two examples of thinks that don’t rust. Chuck Norris’ right and left fists, which he named ‘Law’ and ‘Order’ in the early 70’s.
He’s currently in a lawsuit with NBC over naming rights.
by dr.mort on May 4, 2011 4:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
things ugh iPod touch autocorrect.
by dr.mort on May 4, 2011 4:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm guessing with all the great picks New England has stock piled
It wouldn’t be too hard to convince Carolina to trade back from that spot and give the Patriots a true heir to Brady. At least, that’s what I would be putting all my hopes in.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on May 4, 2011 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
No way football isn't played in the fall!
The number one issue is money. Neither party can make money by not playing football! All of the stalling going on is because the losses of the lockout have been small compared to what can happen in the fall. The fire under their asses right now is pretty small.
When Tim Tebow pissses into the wind, the wind changes direction.
by Albuquerque on May 4, 2011 1:50 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I assume that's true.
But I’m just guessing the draft would go in the same order next year minus any compensatory picks that were awarded. Intended more as a hypothetical question to better understand the inner workings of the NFL.
Is this confirmed?
they look stiff. i doubt you could do a karate chop in them let alone sit down comfortably. … not that chuck ever sits down…
I'm not sugarcoating this.
Check out the pic in the top right corner
of that pic. Looks like chuck is doing a roundhouse just fine in em
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
see, i’m trying to not look at that picture. i feel wronged by the perspective.
I'm not sugarcoating this.
by oxmouth on May 4, 2011 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
There won't be a 2012 draft if the season is cancelled, and there's no new CBA.
From Wikipedia:
Unlike the 2011 NFL Draft, there is no provision allowing for future drafts if the entire 2011 NFL season is lost to lockout and a new collective bargaining agreement is not approved by the league and the National Football League Players Association by April 2012. As such, teams have been advised to trade picks in this draft at their own risk. (A specific exemption in the previous CBA allowed the draft immediately following the league’s opt-out of the CBA, i.e. the 2011 draft, to take place, but this does not apply to future drafts.)
If this ever happened
im pretty sure they would just do a lottery system like the NBA, but there would probably by 32 balls concealed bouncing around that thing they use to shake em.. " i wonder if i can still put in a order for some of those Chuck Norris skinny jeans".
NO PRESSURE= NO DIAMONDS
So you’re saying that David Stern would rig it so the first pick went to the Jets?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 4, 2011 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions
What provisions?
They had a draft before they ever had a CBA, right? Why can’t the NFL have a draft without the players consent? They did it this year.
GO BRONCOS!!!
The players consented for this year's draft when they signed the last collective bargaining agreement
The 2011 draft was specifically allowed for and agreed upon.
Moving forward, there is nothing agreed upon between the owners and players. Without an agreement, the draft cannot go forward because it’s collusion.
Think of it this way, McDonalds (Chargers), Burger King (Raiders), Arby’s (Chiefs) and Subway (Broncos) can’t go down to a high school, line up the graduates in their caps and gowns, then play rock, paper, scissors to decide which kid belongs to which fast food joint – how much they’ll get paid, how long they’ll be under contract for, what their hours will be, etc..
Von. Doom. Pow!
This DRAFT is under last years rules..
The next 300 players in college would have to go somewhere, so im pretty sure a lottery system would happen. but this would never happen lol. “knock on wood”
NO PRESSURE= NO DIAMONDS
Based on what I've found on the internet,
college students would be free agents and could sign with whatever team they wanted – likely the highest bidder. I saw a couple quotes from NFL team owners who confirmed that’s what would happen without a CBA. They said it would be chaos in the NFL.
Can you imagine? Every USC player could make an agreement to all sign with Miami? Or all Alabama graduates decide to go together to Seattle? It would be like college recruiting pandemonium. Cheerleaders and money.
by dr.mort on May 4, 2011 6:28 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m not saying that Tebow can’t become a good QB, but I’d take Luck in an absolute heartbeat. We’re talking a once in a decade NFL-ready QB versus a special football player who may or may not become a good NFL QB.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
I will take Tebow over luck every day and twice on Sundays...Luck played in a very dumbed down, QB safe system, behind a BEAST of an O line.....not a hugely strong arm.....theres a lot of holes in his game...and people think he is second coming of #7.
FIRE DE MAURICE SMITH...he can go suck dog balls for all I care!
NFLPA??? National Fools and Lame Pricks Association!
ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT WE HAVE IN TEBOW? Watching Kyle orton is like watching re-runs of the Brady Bunch...you always know whats going to happen and makes you feel sick at the end!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
I’d bet my house on Luck having a much more successful NFL career than Tebow. And my wife. And my cat. Not my kids though. Honestly, I didn’t see the hole you’re talking about. I saw one of the best college, and NFL ready, QBs I’ve ever seen. And sadly, I never even remotely thought the same thing about Tebow.
Don’t get me wrong. I want Tebow to succeed because he is ours. But I think it is pure insanity to suggest that he’s a better pro QB prospect than Luck, even right now.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 5, 2011 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
What will happen to the 2012 draft if there is no football in 2011...
Is exactly whatever the parties agree will happen.
Sounds simple and unhelpful, no doubt. But that is the answer.
Rules for the 2012 draft are not in place. If a CBA is signed before this season, it’s likely that the 2012 draft will be planned for and regulated much the same as past drafts. With the major exception being the rookie pay scale.
If there’s no 2011 season, then the owners and the players will have to decide how to order the draft picks for the 2012 season, and the rules for the draft order will be in the CBA and will be agreed to by both parties.
The owners picking early will want the same draft order. The owners picking late will want the opposite. The owners in the middle will want a raffle of some sort. And the players really probably wouldn’t care. Either way, it would need to be agreed upon prior to signing a new CBA. So it will be in the order the owners eventually decide.
Von. Doom. Pow!
The Broncos will have the Number 12 pick.
From my understanding if their is not a new CBA by 2012 draft their will not be a draft, until 2013. However if there is no season, and a new CBA by the 2012 draft, the order will be based on a cumulative record over the last 5 (maybe 10) years. With that being said the broncos would probably be picking around 12-19,
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