There Will Be Blood: The Broncos Face a New Future in Drug Testing
"We all know there is no reliable test for hGH," Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association said Thursday at the union's Super Bowl news conference. "Until a test is developed for hGH, there's really not an awful lot to talk about. And when that test is developed, we really believe it should be a urine test. No one is interested in a blood test. We got a lot of big tough guys, but they don't even like to be pricked on the finger to give blood."
"In a perfect world, a urine test would be far easier for us to deal with and administer than a blood test," said NFL executive Adolpho Birch, who supervises the league's drug policy. "The problem is, we thought there was some chance a urine test could be developed. That's increasingly looking less likely. The practical reality is, we need to focus on a test that works, and the test that works is blood." Even the CFL has adopted the blood test into it's Anti-Doping policy. If the Canadians can do it, why can't the NFL?
A team of scientists from the USA and Italy claimed to have developed a urine test that detects hGH. Governing bodies and U.S. pro leagues have long sought a test that doesn't require blood to detect hGH, a synthetic hormone that aids in recovery and bolsters muscle growth. Virginia-based Ceres Nanosciences, partnered with George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., and Italy's Istituto Superiore di Sanità. Ceres has licensed three patents from George Mason in what it calls "Nanotrap" technology.Their researchers developed a particle about one-tenth the size of a red blood cell that attracts, traps and protects hGH molecules, according to George Mason research professor Alessandra Luchini. The particles surround nearly 100% of the hGH molecules and act as an amplifier, so available testing equipment can detect the synthetic hormone.
The test can detect hGH two weeks after an athlete has last used it. Current blood screening for hGH, set to be used again at the Beijing Olympics, can identify hGH 24-48 hours after an athlete's last use.
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Do you think we'll return to the days of 250 - 275 pound offensive linemen?
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by MrFNSunshine on May 9, 2011 9:07 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Who can say
It might be safer though (not to mention a bit more realistic).
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amen to that.
a friend of mine and i were laughing about MLB in the (heavy) steroid days. just utterly ridiculous with 500 ft homeruns every other at bat, 12 inch hat sizes, bats being thrown around in anger. good riddance to all that. realistic NFL would be a good change as well.
I'm not sugarcoating this.
It would bring back purity in the game.
I have several friends that hate MLB now(without roids) because there are so many pitcher’s duals. I happen to love it. That is what the game is supposed to be. Being a fan of the dead ball era, I love to see hit and run, steals…you know…BASEBALL. The same can happen with football. Anyone who thinks the players in the NFL are not taking advantage of the fact that there is no testing for HGH is a fool. Look at the size of these guys. True there are better training methods these days, but we did not just suddenly begin giving birth to a race of super Babies who are bred to play football. Players are Bigger, Faster, stronger and it is not just good diet and better genetics. Part of it is, but there is a big piece of PED’s out there.
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by Heeler on May 9, 2011 9:55 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
No kidding
Its naive to think that these guys keep getting bigger and bigger naturally.
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+1
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by azbroncomaniac on May 10, 2011 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm all for it! Test away NFL!
Testing levels the playing field (no puns). If all the guys are natural beasts instead of artificially enhanced beasts it’s certainly more fair to everyone out there. Everyone wants an advantage in whatever they do, but most of us do it the legal way. We tach our kids that if they want an advantage on the job and in the work place, work hard, go to school and learn. That basic principle is no different in football, baseball or in any other sport.
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by SSinSD on May 9, 2011 10:38 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
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Ok, I just gotta ask...
What’s the problem with HGH?
I’m not trying to pick a fight, I just don’t know what the scrap is all about.
I understand the steroid and blood doping issues, but if a guy is on the IR, say a guy like Brian Dawkins or Champ Bailey, getting a little old in the tooth and he has and injury and there is something that will help his body repair itself, what’s the problem?
Maybe it’s because I’m turning 43 this summer and I’ve got all kinds of aches and pains, arthritis, bad knees from basketball and running, but I can sympathize and I wouldn’t mind getting a hold of something myself, let alone a guy who is trying to keep his career going. I just don’t understand the scrap over this one. Can anyone fill me in?
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It is a major health risk
There wasn’t enough research done on the synthetic drug. The money men at the drug companies (I’m sure there are others too) see what the researchers have developed and force products on the market to make tons of money without checking for the consequences.
Lyle Alzado admitted that this stuff (among others) is what gave him Brain Cancer and led to his death.
The body produces this hormone naturally, but as we get older, it produces lesser amounts.
I have a lot more data that I can give anyone access to if they wish. Just drop me an email.
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Doesn't HGH shrink your testicles eventually as well?
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by the new Bradfather on May 10, 2011 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Commonly reported side effects for hGH abuse are: diabetes in prone individuals; worsening of cardiovascular diseases; muscle, joint and bone pain; hypertension and cardiac deficiency; abnormal growth of organs; accelerated osteoarthritis. In untreated acromegalic individuals (known for pathological over-production of hGH), many of the symptoms described above are observed and life expectancy is known to be significantly reduced. Because of the role that hGH plays in stimulating IGF-1 secretion, excessive use of hGH may also lead to metabolic dysfunction, including glucose intolerance and other side effects associated with excess levels of IGF-1.
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Anybody think it might be a good idea to go the other way?
I highly doubt PEDs are going to go away. Perhaps it might be wise to use structured and supervised voluntary administration of things like hHG in high level athletics. Yes, I know, even my knee-jerk is to say “no”, but I have not heard a good debate on the topic. All I ever hear is “Steroids bad!”. From what I can tell, links between PED use and long term health problems are anecdotal, and in fact, steroids can have beneficial effects if used properly. A program of supervised use could have the some other benefits as well.
1. Supervised implementation could allow systematic data collection and analysis that could allow more definitive statements about risk and reward for PED use. Considering the likelihood that significant numbers of high level athletes are using anyway and in an unsupervised context you could argue that a supervised program would be in the interest of player safety.
2. An open program could undermine arguments that monitoring techniques like blood tests are invasive. If you are letting the medical staff stick you to inject, then how can you protest letting them stick you to monitor?
3. An open program could actually lead to decreased overall use. Imagine that you are the ILB that has to use PEDs to keep up with more “naturally” gifted athletes. If your use is known to teams, other players, and the public then it’s entirely possible that pressure will emerge for you to stop using and compete fairly. Basically a public program could allow the age old control mechanism of shame to enter into the equation.
4. It could level the playing field overall. Athletes would know who is using and how it is affecting their game allowing them to make more informed decisions about whether or not they want to participate in monitored programs.
5. Open use of PEDs could protect the historical integrity of the games by allowing the public to make informed evaluations about athletic accomplishment in both non-PED and PED eras in particular sports. It could also shed light on shadowed areas of PED usage in sports up until this time. For example, if monitored use of hGH became part of baseball and suddenly you had the same types of numbers as you had in the “steroid era” you would have empirical evidence on which to evaluate that period of baseball history.
6. It would remove the ability to cheat by using PEDs. The reason that PED use constitutes cheating is that some players use and gain a benefit against players that obey the rules. If PED use becomes open, monitored, and accounted for by the rules then it is no longer cheating. It would also allow a known and empirical base from which to notice outliers. If NFL performance is at a particular level in a monitored PED era then someone that suddenly appears to be above and beyond even other enhanced athletes would justifiably attract additional scrutiny for perhaps using an unapproved PED variant that could then be investigated and brought within the context of the rules.
For those of you who want to argue that PEDs undermine the purity of human competition based on what is naturally achievable by human bodies I would point out that humans are by nature technological animals. Like other areas of nature, our bodies have always been the subject of technological manipulation. In that sense, a technologically enhanced body is as natural as the body you were born with. In fact, it can easily be argued that in technologically advanced societies we are likely born with technologically enhanced bodies based on application of medical knowledge of proper nutrition and the use of technologically developed supplements and medications.
And finally, we clearly use technology to enhance athletic bodies already. We use advanced nutrition. We use technologically enhanced supplements. We use advanced surgical techniques to put bodies back together when they’ve been broken. Why do we draw the line at PEDs?
I don’t necessarily buy all the arguments I’ve made, but I would like it if we actually debated the issues rather than assume that the argument is not worth having.
by jaffe28 on May 9, 2011 11:51 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Aplus
your argument it wonderful. im also not going on record as saying i agree.
by veggiezaffer on May 10, 2011 4:18 AM MDT up reply actions
interesting take
I agree about the human ability to manipulate his world. We use technology in many ways to improve and repair our bodies. I think we have gone beyond the days of “steroids” use being bad. They are used medically all the time, open use is a very good topic for debate.
Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Steroids are bad
the way Barry Bonds used them, I think that’s irrefutable. I’ve always thought if steroids are used to get players ready for an upcoming game (cortisone shots anyone) and if that is all they’re used for, they’re not performance enhancers. I mean how is that different from taking Claratin or Sudafed before you go to bed when you have a cold? At work, my employer expects me to be my best and that’s hard to do if you’re sneezing your guts out and you talk like the AFLAC duck.
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by the new Bradfather on May 10, 2011 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm all for debate, but point 6 just gets us back to square 1
You can monitor, measure, and observe, but there will always be, as there has been, those that will cheat. If you set a level 3, some will go outside the guidelines to level 4. If you set a level 7, there will be those that go over the fence to level 8 and 9. There are other motivating factors to cheat – money, fame, ego for some. So it doesn’t matter what you think you can set as boundaries, there are those that will exceed them. Human nature. I just think it’s best to ban, test, and start at 0. But good for you for opening up the debate.
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by azbroncomaniac on May 10, 2011 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Effects and side effects are dose related
Therapeutic doses for bone marrow growth, increased appetite, increased muscle mass, increasing (low) testosterone would be for medically specific reasons and generally smaller doses/limited time period.
Doses used solely to increase muscle mass are larger &/or more frequent. Severe side effects of hypertension, bad lipids, acne, baldness, liver damage, sex specific changes, rage and aggression are associated with larger doses.
The amount of steroids needed for an already fit athlete to markedly increase his muscle mass is in the second paragraph. Doses also have to be repeated to maintain the added muscle mass.
It probably is possible to medially supervise a cyclic steroid program that would avoid most of the serious side effects. It would be expensive and (imo) most users wouldn’t bother with the doctor part.
For these reasons I think steroids should continue to require a doctor’s Rx. If the NFL wishes to ban the use of certain drugs they need random blood testing done by an outside agency. I know, lots of smuggled steroids but putting them on the drugstore shelf isn’t the answer either.
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I have never actually posted a comment on here before but I felt I had to this time.
I am an English Broncos fan. I also support the Bradford Bulls rugby league team who Terry Newton (the above mentioned rugby player in the article) used to play for before he was found to have tested positive for HGH.
In his last season for the Bulls he was injured and missed the end of the season. Knowing he was not getting a new contract he took it upon himself to start taking HGH to help him get ready for the next season with Wakefield Wildcats.
The club clearly had no alternative but to sack Terry straight away.
Several months later Terry hung himself.
Now I doubt many of you followed this story over there but I just wanted to try put a little different point to it.
Obviously as a Broncos fans this past year we know all about the pain caused when a player with undoubted talent takes their own life due to problems they see no way out of.
I certainly do not condone the use of drugs in sport but having seen previous NFL players come off the rails a number of times when their career ends a system should also be put in place to help any player who may be found guilty and are subsequently banned.
The cynic in me would say they will be many NFL players using this at the moment. Especially any towards the back end of their career looking for a little boost to help recovery week to week maybe prolong a career by 2 or more years.
If these players are not up there in the ‘star’ bracket or have more than questionable friends (as some have) we could easily see more of the same instances occurring in future.
Yes the NFL must have a HGH program but we must also be aware of the issue that will follow if/when anyone is found guilty.
Great discussion everyone
I think money has a lot do do with the situation. You have the player, who wishes to prolong his career and maintain the best edge he possibly can to keep making a high salary. Or to speed the injury recovery process. Then you have the League trying to maintain the integrity of the game and a level playing field. There is also the sports betting world that has a manipulative effect on things. The league spends quite a few dollars on supporting the research and I’m sure the sports book spends quite a bit on the manufacturing of these products. I’m sure there are other angles which I am forgetting too.
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I'm not so sure the NFL really cares about leveling the playing field
I think it’s NFL’s way of going another step forward to improve on the field safety. Smaller slower players equals less concussions and injuries.
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one word: Parity
That keeps more franchises alive to generate more revenue=Money.
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by KaptainKirk on May 10, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
All they care about is money!
by mattierice27 on May 10, 2011 12:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Good for the NFL
Why you said it would effect Denver Broncos, I doubt it is specific to Broncos alone.
by isiddiqi on May 10, 2011 10:26 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
You're right
but this is a Bronco blog so I should put Broncos in the title
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by KaptainKirk on May 10, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Romonowski does not like this proposal.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 10, 2011 12:32 PM MDT reply actions
Romo was the hardest roid user
in the NFL in his day, I’m sure. I mean you hear Jim Rome interview him and the guy is insane. I think steroids shrink more than mens’ sexual organs
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by the new Bradfather on May 10, 2011 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll bet you're right
It makes you wonder if they kill endorphins and the bodies production of them.
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About time
I’ve always been amazed at the NFL’s lax drug policy. I’m also a cycling fan which has a reputation for being one of the dirtiest sports around. However when you compare the testing programs and discipline programs I find it hard to believe that the NFL is anywhere near as clean as people think. If cyclists are risking 2 year bans for a single positive test for the $200,000 purse at the Tour how hard is it to believe that NFL players will risk a 4 game suspension for a million dollar contract. Everyone focuses on steroids and HGH but I suspect that EPO and blood doping are much more prevalent then is widely thought., very difficult to impossible to detect with urine tests and how advantageous would it be to pick up some free endurance during the offseason.
prescibed
there is resons to take steroids and hgh. The body builders and football players are taking 1,000 times the prescibed dose. that’s why they are banned. They probably should allow injured players to take steroids or hgh under a doctors care.They would help them heal faster but the chance for abuse won’t allow that to happen






































