Becoming a More Educated Fan: Learning From The Past
One of the issues I see most often on this site is newer members having to learn things the hard way, so while I have no issue with everyone learning on their own, I thought I take what I, and other staffers have learned, to help ease people into the site. With Mile High Report having such a long, storied history, we should use it as a resource. So as with the past two pieces in this series, I'm looking to make life easier for newer members.
So with that in mind, I wanted to ask each of you to come with me as we take a visit down the archives of Mile High Report. We will be reviewing some of the more important articles, at least in my opinion, as well as some of the favorites from the past of some of the staffers.
We don't have to reinvent the wheel, on many topics, ranging from comparing the 3-4 to the 4-3 to McD's personal history to where everyone is from, so let the past help the present, you don't have to do work that has already been done. Let's work and learn smarter, it only makes our lives easier.
Mile High Report Archives and You
Using the Search Function:
The first tool to keep in mind as you begin your search for knowledge is the search function, it's neatly tucked in the upper right hand corner of the site, conveniently labeled "search posts and comments" and it does just that. Want to see if anyone has talked about trading for DeAngelo Williams recently, just type in his name, add in the word "trade" if you feel so inclined and BAM, you get results. Not surprisingly, people have talked about him, a lot. So lets take something more obscure that you want to right about, concussions for example, you can type it in and be able to look through research, comments and posts that discuss concussions that you can either learn from or use as sources for your own work. Also, say you want to check out Orton's value around the league for example, you can search other SB Nation sites as well.
So this tool can be helpful to see if someone has recently already talked about a topic, so that you don't beat a dead horse, or it can help you by giving you additional resources for your own post. Just make sure to like to others work, courtesy goes a long way.
Now there is one more key feature to note as well, that is of each members profile. If you click on a member, you can pull up a brief bio on them, look at the blogs they've joined and their recent activity, but did you know you can actually search their personal posts on a topic? So say you have a favorite staffer, Sayre for example, and you love his draft work, so you can go to his member page, go to the search bar, and say you want to look at what he thinks of Von Miller, type in "Von Miller draft" you get a list of everything Sayre has written about Von Miller and the draft.
The Sections Tab:
This is a bit of a hidden gem, hidden just below the Mile High Report logo and the fan confidence poll, it's a small pull down tab that holds wonders. Open it up and you get an organized and filed look at each section and topic that the staffers have written. Want to relive the 2008 season, click the 2008 Denver Broncos Game Previews or 2008 Denver Broncos Post Game Notes. Looking to see interviews that have been done, it's in there, legal matter, in there, opinion pieces, polls, MHR Radio, it's got it all. So if you have a topic you are researching, or a year you want to review, take a gander in there, it's literally Mary Poppins bag, in Mile High Report form.
Last But Not Least:
As the title said, these aren't to be forgotten. At the top of the page, below the ad, you will see a bar, that has many useful tabs, including the listings of all posts, shots and front page stories Mile High Report has too offer. Add in that top bar has stats, rosters, tickets and more, it should be taken note of.
Posts From The Past!
We've taken a brief tour of the tools to find information from the past, now I want to present some of the posts I find most useful and others that I really enjoyed. Let's get reviewing!
MHR-University
This is among the best series ever written on Mile High Report and can be found using the handy Sections tab we talked about. But for you lazy folks, here's the link to it's archive. MHR-U was mostly done by Steve Nichols, a former staffer here, and he covers a very wide range of topics about the mechanics of football as well as discuss how to becoming a better member of Mile High Report. So I will give you guys a MHR-U starter kit to help get things going:
On Field Ramifications of Head Coaching Change
3-4: Position Responsibilities and Blocking Theory
Building Your Rep at MHR, Building Cred at MHR/ Part 1, and Builing Cred at MHR/ Part 2
MHR-Tech Tip
Another fantastic series by Steve Nichols about using the editor and make the most of each post, worth a read for newer members as well as members looking to improve their posting. Here's the link to it's archive. Here's a few posts to get you going:
"Tags" and "Recommended" Defined
MHR Bronco History Lessons
Tim Lynch is the man in charge of the history around here, but he has gotten help as well in recent times. If you are looking to take a peak at Bronco history, this is a good place to start. A few interesting articles to wet your appetite:
Jay Cutler: A Brief History Lesson
Words From the Boss Himself:
Now rarely do we get to hear directly from the horse's mouth, pardon the pun on many levels, but when John Bena opens up, it's usually worth listening to. Now while John lacks his own section on Mile High Report, he has given us many a good post, and while the ones I will be listing will mostly deal with how Mile High Report is run, click on his name than click on blog, he's got some great reading. Here's a few of his writings:
PLEASE READ - This Will Be The Only Time I Say This - MHR Code of Conduct.
The Broncos, MileHighReport and You
Objectivity vs. Kool-Aid, What it means to be a Broncos Fan
Fire With A Focus....The Continuing Evolution Of Mile High Report
Personal Favorites:
I have been a member of Mile High Report for some time, longer than other and shorter than some, but I have read, and written, some great articles in the past. Some may have touched me, others pointed something out I hadn't noticed before, and then you have others that were just funny. So if you will indulge me as I take a brief trip down memory lane:
What We Can Learn From John Wooden: I wrote this shortly after Coach Wooden died, and I really enjoyed writing it, I learned a lot from it, and it was one of my favorites to share with others.
Dear Denver, I'm Having an Affair: This was a post I did to help explain my background a bit better to those that didn't know me. I had a lot of fun writing it, and learned a lot about other members here as well.
Some Clarification is in Order - Off-Season Stats: Running Backs: I don't think I put more time into any series than I did into this one, and I loved every second of it.
Injuries and the NFL by Doc Bear: This was a very informative post about trends in the NFL about injuries, and really opened my eyes a lot.
Seeing the Stars Through the Trees by Brian Shrout: A fantastic piece by Brian talking about getting the big picture, and not focusing on one element, as well as talking about combining film and stats to create the perfect combo.
On Broncos, their fans, and Bloodlust by BroncoPH: This is a top tier piece that discusses the nature of Bronco fans and the 2010 season in a smart, funny and enjoyable read.
Staffer's Picks:
So I asked some of the staffers to let me know some of their favorite articles, and here are their responses:
Jezru
Okay!So this was an easy one for me. I wrote it in a pissed off rage at work after I heard that Shannon Sharpe was screwed over in getting admitted to the HOF on his first try. Though I lacked the stats capability to really do this post the way I had grandly imagined it, I was able to attract like minded individuals with those stats skills to illustrate the concepts that were making me so upset. After my post, Studbucket (J. T. Kimball) ran with the travesty idea and made an excellent case from which the MHR Hall of Fame Committee was born. Two years later, we celebrated the induction of Floyd Little and, here next month, Shannon Sharpe will be inducted. To what extent our efforts contributed in getting these deserving candidates into the hall of fame, we'll never know. However, we worked our butts off lobbying the voters and pumping up our guys.It started with this post:...The Path of the MHR Hall of Fame Committee: Early last year the 2009 Pro Football Hall of Fame class was announced, and once again there were no Broncos inducted. There was anger and outrage, it was called a travesty, then it was called a travesty again. It was out of those posts a committee was born. No more weeping and gnashing of teeth, we're taking action. With John (Guru) advising and great help from Tim (Zappa), a committee consisting of Jezru, studbucket, and firstfan was formed with the purpose gathering data and opinions to create an organized campaign to get more Broncos in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. To see the first post in this series, go here. The second post can be found here. The third from November 2009, can be found here. After the successful campaign for Floyd Little and the celebratory post from here, here, and here, the committee passed the torch to a new slate of members. Bfree2bronc, broncosmontana and Troy (kentuckybronco) became the new faces of the committee. The mission continues. The walls of the Hall of Fame will be painted orange and blue.
I can tell you that one of the best (to me) articles that I wrote, was the one on Decker and Stokely's Lisfranc injuries. That one felt good. Link.They play the same position. They have both had the same injury. They share the same agent in Todd France, and have history with a mutual coach. While the first one is a given and the second, coincidence; the latter two have combined to make Eric Decker and Brandon Stokely familiar teammates.
Decker was diagnosed with a Lisfranc injury--a tear of the ligament that holds his first two toes in place. This is a critical injury for a player that needs to cut and plant his feet running pass routes. Brandon Stokley suffered a similar injury while playing for the Baltimore Ravens in 2002.
The rookie found his mentor in a roundabout way. Stokley reached out to Decker soon after the University of Minnesota wideout injured his left foot in a game against Ohio State in October. Stokely came to know about Decker through Jedd Fisch, the former Gophers offensive coordinator who’s since taken a position with the Seattle Seahawks. Fisch, once the receivers’ coach for the Broncos, asked Stokley to say a few encouraging words to Decker after he got hurt. Stokley took it a step further by forging a friendship.
When he hurt his foot during that game, Eric didn’t realize how bad his injury was. It took him more than a week to figure out what really happened. Unfortunately it turned out to be a Lisfranc sprain, which promptly ended his college career and required him to have surgery.
Matt: I have a couple of all-time favorite posts/fanposts that I have read.
Here is one from our elder statesman, firstfan http://www.milehighreport.com/2008/5/10/507305/the-mayonnaise-jar-and-two.When things in your life seem almost too much to handle, when 24 hours in a day are not enough, remember the mayonnaise jar and the 2 Beers.
Hoosierteacher stood before the crowded lecture hall at MHR University. Styg, Guru, Zappa, mdierk( the A students) were all in the front row, eager to learn. Firstfan was in the back with his dunce cap on. All of the students were there. Super7 and Jon Tollerud were hoping for an in-depth discussion of the now famous 3-3-5 defense. But instead Hoosierteacher had some unusual items in front of him.
The other is the "for sale" fanpost http://www.milehighreport.com/2011/2/3/1973097/for-sale-1982-ford-bronco.
While neither post is hard news, it is the way some of the MHR members mixed humor and stories. Those are the types that I won't forget.Tim: Search for Mayonnaise.
Conclusion:
Well there really are no conclusions, just don't waste time if you don't have to. Mile High Report is a fantastic reference on a lot of football topics, we have one of the most complete breakdowns on NFL trends, we have instructional posts on the nuances of defensive tackle play, we have just about everything here. So with these closing words, I leave you with this commitment, before you start a new post, type in the main topic into the search bar, or before you try and rely on your memory for how game 7 of the 2007 season went, look on the side tab, if you do this, you will save yourself more than time, you may also save yourself a visit to the bathroom or to the sink to get a drink of water.
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Great Post..
I knew most of it… but discovered most of it by chance. Thanks great idea and will lead to better post I am sure mine will improve.
oldcoachB
"The will to win, the desire to succeed, the urge to reach your full potential...
these are the keys that will unlock the door to personal excellence."
tabs?
I’m looking below the Mile High Report logo.
I see immediately under it, the title, “Becoming…”
he's tall, blonde, smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
My favorite post was one that BroncoPH did on the conclusion of the 2010 season
Beautifully written and had a great musical score to go with it
http://www.milehighreport.com/2011/2/11/1982142/an-mhr-community-reflection-of-2010
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
by Calikula on Jul 13, 2011 10:05 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
BroncoPH is a smart guy and a great writer
I usually love his stuff as well.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Jul 13, 2011 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm a big fan of Jeremy Bolander's work too, so here is a few gems from the last year or two.
You can always count on Jeremy to bring the best with his posts.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Jul 13, 2011 11:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Be Careful About Your Initial Premise
This post is helpful in informing the new member of the tools that are available and some of the previous discussions on topics and I commend you for the time that you invested in it. However, the opening paragraph and the third paragraph essentially says to new members that there are things we have already discussed here and don’t waste your time and our time with them anymore. It is a mistake for anyone to come into a “conversation” without respect to what has gone on before and fitting into the flow properly. Be careful, though, that you don’t make the opposite mistake. Part of the job of a veteran player is to listen to and dialogue with the rookie on issues that are “old hat” and also to realize that the rookie brings something to the team even on things that the veteran has done for years.
by Hank44 on Jul 14, 2011 5:07 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly!
I was trying to say the same thing with an earlier reply (mine got deleted). The difference was that I said I felt the site was becoming elitist, apparently that didn’t go over well. I just feel that if you want to post about the Broncos you shouldn’t have to be an expert and you shouldn’t have to spend hours researching. I commend great bloggers like maxwellsdemon, but you shouldn’t have to be a great writer with great research skills to share your joy for the Broncos.
Just as a side note, I would really appreciate an explanation to who and why my earlier comment was deleted. I have been a member here for a long time and I did not break any rules by disagreeing with the premise of this article.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Jul 14, 2011 6:43 AM MDT up reply actions
nah...
…that’s alright. I think I need a break from this place. Maybe I will check it out again once football starts and therefore there are more articles about football.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Jul 14, 2011 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I was wondering what happened to that post, really surprised it got deleted. Oh well, you may of been on to something.
Never lose hope, never lose heart
by plainview88 on Jul 14, 2011 10:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
unfortunately, I think I am on to something and it bums me out a bit.
BTW, thanks for the rec on my original deleted comment.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Jul 14, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
If it's any consolation
I’m not the one who took down your comment, my response to you was hidden as well.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Jul 14, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
I didn't figure it was you...
I didn’t get to read your response and would have liked to. I believe this is a valid discussion as do others I think. Are things getting a bit stuffy around here? Some might say that and others would undoubtedly disagree. I feel that there needs to be a healthy mix of cheer leading which doesn’t need substance and statistical analysis which is more your style. I also don’t mind that topics are rehashed by new members, new perspectives on the same old story interests.
I really like most of your stuff, this article and a few others like it just feels like people are trying to influence others creativity. That may not be your intentions; however, as Hank44 so eloquently put it:
the opening paragraph and the third paragraph essentially says to new members that there are things we have already discussed here and don’t waste your time and our time with them anymore.
There have been other similar posts in this series that talk about doing your research. To me its a fan site and in many cases stats and research don’t mean as much as the raw go Broncos emotion that you feel in some posts.
Like I said before, I think that there is room for both types of posts. It just seems like there is a movement within the staffers towards a very dry and rational site that caters to left brainers.
Maybe it is just the lockout…
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Jul 14, 2011 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions
I do think it's the lockout
We have already beaten the juicy, emotional issues (Tebow/Orton, Moreno/Williams, Fox/McD) to death, and all that is left is preparation for the up coming season. But it should be noted that this post was constructed from a survey I took from some new members of the sites, I asked what they need help with, what they would want, or if their was a MHR guide, what would it contain. So this post was largely written by, and for, new members.
So I am sorry if you took this the wrong way, and this post had nothing to do with stats at all, but the content in it, as well as it’s format, was designed by new members who wanted to get ready for the season and wanted to contribute to MHR. So while I can understand where you are coming from, but I think you misunderstood the point of this post, it had nothing to with stats or figures, it was a guide to new members on how to get around MHR and find what they are looking for. Heck all the posts that myself and the other staffers linked were the types of posts you were looking for, emotional, moving, cheer leading posts.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Fair enough...
I definitely got off topic a bit. I have just heard a lot from people around here lately about backing up opinions and what not with stats. My mind likes to make that connection between stats and research. Plus when I think of you, I think of numbers.
I feel that there is definitely the possibility of others getting the impression that you are saying don’t write about things that have already been written. That was my concern and it appears that at least a few others got the same impression. Now that you are writing on the front page you have more power to influence whether intentional or not.
So yeah, the lockout probably has me a little sour and short fused right now. Plus there really is very little to write about.
At any rate I didn’t mean any of this as a personal attack. I think I have told you before that I respect your stuff and the way you handle yourself in a debate.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Jul 14, 2011 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I can understand that
Especially the relation between myself and research and stats, but I want to make the point that if you see my name on something, don’t assume it will always be a statistical, though many may be. I can respect your opinion, as well as Plainview88, both of whom I respect, but I do take 8 recs, as well as emails I’ve received, that there are a number of members who liked this post. I will try to consciencely avoid phrasing things that may seem a greater-than-though, but you have to understand that I never write a post with that tone, especially this one, considering my contribution to it was very little, other than organizational.
Thanks for your thoughts though and I will keep them in mind.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Just to clarify
I don’t think you are writing posts with a greater-than-though approach. I don’t think that is who you are.
At any rate… no worries, it sounds like the lockout may soon be over!
Go Broncos!
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Jul 15, 2011 7:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I've put out an inquiry to the staff about this.
Typically only personal attacks or posts laden with expletives are deleted. I’ll try to find an answer for you. I get hammered with criticism all the time in my posts, so I know deleting a comment just because someone doesn’t like what was written has never been MHR’s policy.
In regards to your original comment, I agree that the wording of those paragraphs probably could be construed in a way that Maxwellsdemon had not intended. I think the goal was to bring the wealth of research done by others back to the forefront. I always use the archives to find information others have already researched, so I don’t have to “reinvent the wheel”. It doesn’t mean I don’t have something relevant to add to an old topic, but I do try to link back to the source of information I used.
This post was intended to be a harmless “Hey check out some old gems from the archives” kind of deal. At least that’s what I thought it was supposed to be. Maxwellsdemon could correct me if I’m off base. lol ;)
Found the culprit - won't name him here, but it wasn't Maxwell or I.
He felt the comment was too close to a personal attack on Maxwellsdemon. In hindsight, he also feels he may have overreacted to your comment. Oh well, what is done is done. If you want you can re-post your comment….MHR doesn’t silence dissenters. lol
The line between personal attack and general lamenting is pretty fine. I’ve made that mistake a thousand times myself. I’ve even freaked out on Maxwellsdemon in the not too distant past. lol
Was I wrong? Absolutely. I don’t think my opinions were wrong, but my treatment of Maxwellsdemon was. In any case, I’m talking about a completely different topic now. :) I didn’t even see the comment, so for all I know it was the staffer who freaked out and overreacted to what was just an innocent complaint.
I’d rather just go back to reading some of the old gems linked in this post.
LOL
I think I was actively commenting in the “freaked out on Maxwellsdemon in the not to distant past” that you speak of, I remember it well. We all get caught up in the emotional roller coaster the Broncos have been the last few years.
At any rate, I am not overly worried about my comment being deleted. In hind site I can see how it could have been construed as a bit of a personal attack. I didn’t intend it to be.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
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