MHR Poll of the Week for July 17, 2011: What More Do You Want!
by Topher Doll on Jul 24, 2011 2:00 PM MDT
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PrintLast week really built on the previous week, reaching a new record for votes again, a total of 735, and I'm pretty happy about it. Last weeks question asked which squad was the strongest in 2010, and it wasn't even close. I thought the previous weeks winner, which took 64%, was a landslide, not even close. So lets review last week:
| Answer: | Votes | Percentage |
|---|---|---|
| Quarterbacks | 37 | 5% |
| Running Backs | 1 | 1% |
| Offensive Lineman | 11 | 1% |
| Wide Receivers | 623 | 84% |
| Tight Ends | 3 | 1% |
| Defensive Lineman | 10 | 1% |
| Linebackers | 11 | 1% |
| Defensive Backs | 25 | 3% |
| Special Teams | 6 | 1% |
| Coaching | 8 | 1% |
| Total: | 735 | 100% |
It was almost unanimous that wide receiver was the winner of last weeks poll, and it makes sense. Overall, the offense took home just over 90% of the votes, while defense only had one option, defensive backs, that got more than 1% of the votes. Quarterbacks came in a distant second, while almost every option came in even farther behind, heck I rounded tight end and running back up because they had less than 1% of the votes. Once we get closer to the season, I'm excited to ask these questions again, but about the 2011 squads.
Well okay, so with last week behind us, let's move on to this weeks question.
So the lockout is almost over, free agency will come back and trades will start taking place, that's all very exciting. Many of you have talked about how a lot of articles written on Mile High Report are either not focused enough on football, or are too repetitive, so my poll question this week is to help us staffers get a feel for the type of articles you, the members, want to see written once the lockout ends.
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I love opinions. ;-)
Hopefully, we’ll see a good mix of all of the above.
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Other!
Articles involving the game last week! Articles involving how next weeks game will improve against a new opponent! Articles involving what improvements we are seeing game in game out due to a great job by our coaching staff.
Basically, articles that involve the week to week regular season games being played and how we can improve next week!
Guess U could say that I am ready 4 football!
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
I've got an idea....
we could be like IAOFM and do political pieces that have very little to do with football!
Those are very rare over there.
but they are annoying. I’m not a fan of Ted making 4/5’s of an article about politics and then trying to tie it in with football. And it’s not that i disagree with his points, but it’s more that I go to IAOFM to read about football, not people’s personal politics.
But IAOFM in my opinion has more of what i wish MHR had here, which is more articles on facts and stats rather than opinion pieces. Not a dead breaker for me but would love more of that over here.
Witnessed Playoffs last: April 28, 2008
Sincerely yours, Tortured T.O Fan
Those will return never fear
We are in need of stats and facts to discuss that haven’t been hashed and re-hashed several times over. And with Training Camp in the very near future, I can tell you that you will get all I can give to make it seem like you are there. =)
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I love a lot of the content over there but the pieces with political stuff do make me frustrated.
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I love Ted’s political pieces, especially since they don’t placate the “morals” types or screaming yahoos on either fringe.
And that he uses terms like “butt hurt” also cracks me up.
The Lockout bores me.
I agree, Ted doesn’t hold back for anyone, and he shouldn’t. There were way too many people telling him how and what to write, the entitlement shown was ridiculous. First off, this is the internet. Every page any person goes to is 100% their own choice. You read something you don’t like, that’s your OWN fault, nobody is forcing you. Second, the site is free. Nobody outside of those 4 guys are footing the bill, so they get to choose to do whatever they want.
Disagreeing is one thing, demanding someone write to adhere to your own personal standards is another. Remember swg777(and the others that made demands), the choice to read that article was yours and yours alone. The only person responsible for what you read on the internet is the person in between your chair and your keyboard.
Thank you captain obvious....
I wonder how well my right-wing propaganda would play? Would it be equally received? Hell no!
For stating that its obvious...
you certainly missed the point. You can invest and create a site with all right-wing propaganda you want, just don’t demand others run their websites to your standards when you don’t pay a dime or contribute in any way besides your disparaging remarks. Its an incredibly rude and self centered thing to do.
Don’t like, don’t read. It’s a simple as that. Sick of Ted’s political commentary? Don’t click on a post that has his name in the author field. Those who enjoy his writing will continue to enjoy so, and you can stop being so miffed at some online commentary you don’t like.
by droom on Jul 25, 2011 6:23 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I understand the premise of
don’t like, don’t read. I’ve heard that for years and I agree with it. However, I am constantly amused by double standards. Also, I don’t think the goal of IAOFM is to be a left-wing resource for Bronco fans. Maybe I am wrong. I try to separate my politics and football resources.
My personal opinion is that the blogosphere disproportionately runs rampant with unaccomplished leftists. I have seen this time and time again. A website certainly has a right to have personal opinion. However, when they advertise as a Bronco website and they talk about football 1% of the time, it is frustrating. I certainly know that they are comfortable with that now and I will take it into account.
Thats a whole lot of hyperbole there
IAOFM is more like 1% political. Your bias is really coming out.
I would hope that Ted Bartlett would take his feedback to heart. I’ve been reading over at IAOFM for the past three or four months now and I think every one of those guys are skilled, insightful, funny, and great Bronco reads. I don’t necessarily get the feeling that they particularly want to hedge themselves into one corner and appeal to only one particular political type of football fan, but with satirical pieces like Mr. Bartlett recently wrote that becomes a real issue.
It’s great droom that you support Ted. Any writer wants/needs to have readers who are willing to back them up even when they may not be on their best game. It gives them confidence to take risks. On the other hand for any good writer like Ted, the last thing he should want are people that don’t agree with him to simply ignore what he writes. One of the most difficult things to get is feedback. 1,000 people might read his work, but only a handful will comment with their opinions. Anybody who has spent any time trying to put together 2,000+ words and attempt to make them coherent understands just how redeeming it is for someone to take a few minutes and write their opinion. Ted should want that feedback, even if it gets nasty at times.
In regards to Ted’s actual work, I don’t think it’s too far of a stretch to say that in the realm of satire it just wasn’t that great. Satire is horrendously difficult. Anyone who reads The Onion on a regular basis understands that truly great satire is rare. In my opinion, if the purpose of satire is to make a point, the writer must understand exactly what point he/she is trying to make and stick to it. Satire is a great way to coat a difficult topic with the disarming quality that humor and/or irony brings. The purpose, however, is that at the end the reader will see an issue from a different perspective and perhaps change their opinion.
Ted’s latest work, while taking direct aim at fans who perhaps believe what they hear too quickly, chose to do so by stereotyping an entire group of people in ways that suggested intense bigotry. He did so by creating an “example character” whom he believes is representative of the way his target audience thinks. He failed to disarm his readers and when they had peeled away the layers of satire instead of finding an interesting truth the only thing left was venom. Unfortunately, for many readers his purpose was lost.
Ted’s a great writer. He’ll be back and I hope that he considers all of the feedback he gets to better his writing skills. As a community, we need more writers, we need more active fans, and we need them to be from all sides of the political spectrum.
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Tulogit to quit.
I agree BroncoPH
On that thread there is plenty of negative feedback with no demands or vitriol. Disagreeing is fine, I stated that in the comment you replied too. However demanding that a writer be reigned in to conform to ones own view is not feedback.
droom,
all hyperbole aside, I don’t mind people disagreeing with me. My only issue is that I don’t believe IAOFM wants to be a political and football website. I believe their goal is to be about football. I was giving my opinion about them missing the mark on that goal and suggesting a way to rectify it. I wouldn’t want someone spouting political opinions, even if they agreed with mine, on a football website. They certainly have a right, but like broncoph said, do they really want to put themselves into a box and alienate a large percentage of their readers?
I voted other.
Because I couldn’t make up my mind between statistical review and educational pieces. I would like to see more of those and less opinion pieces. Those op pieces are nice but for the most part they rarely teach me anything new.
Witnessed Playoffs last: April 28, 2008
Sincerely yours, Tortured T.O Fan
If only there was a way to check multiple answers
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
What I don't get is why,
if you know you don’t like what an author or site is going to say, you still read it and comment on it.
A little nasty on defense would be nice.
I don't think anyone is saying it happens every time, or even a couple times.
This was just a one time thing that rubbed people the wrong way. I still really enjoy IAOFM even though I didn’t like one of the articles. If I stopped reading a site because of one article I didn’t like I wouldn’t read anything on the web.
Witnessed Playoffs last: April 28, 2008
Sincerely yours, Tortured T.O Fan
Yeah I know Eddie.Teach
I was more referring to the Broncosfansd days than IAOFM.
A little nasty on defense would be nice.
ahh yes a good example.
Don’t go read an article when you know you’re not going to like it.
Witnessed Playoffs last: April 28, 2008
Sincerely yours, Tortured T.O Fan
Whatever happened to Broncosfansd? Did he change his name to Hoopforia or Rock1?
The Lockout bores me.
I doubt it
Neither one of them is clamoring for Andrew Luck. I was wondering that myself
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If not opening day!
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Less statistical analysis. It’s boring and usually misses the point. The NFL isn’t baseball, or golf or tennis. Football is a sport that requires the biggest, fastest dudes on the planet to slam into each other again and again and again. It’s barbaric. If you try to read too much into stats of a barbaric game, you miss the essence of the sport it self. The NFL is violent, controlled chaos.
Stats don’t measure intangibles, momentum, pain and desire. Yet these qualities are on display every single play in the NFL. This is not the case in several other professional sports that are better measured thru stats.
The Lockout bores me.
by McGeorge on Jul 24, 2011 6:32 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
Totally agree
I was going to suggest similar. There are so many correlations in stats that you can do the game a disservice by focusing on certain aspects of the numbers without acknowledging the multitude of mitigating circumstances that contribute to them. A stat aint a stat aint a stat, basically.
I miss the articles on formations, NFL teams and players in general and tactics. I love reading that stuff.
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by orange&blue_aussie on Jul 24, 2011 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions
I like articles about D-line tactics, QB progressions, ST formations and other stuff I could learn more about. More of that is a good.
Less Football Outsiders nonsense. I don’t care to see bell curves and regressions to the mean. It’s boring and the correlations to football are poor at best.
We don’t need to see a bunch of guys showing off their statistics focused MBA skills or pursuit of a six sigma black belt. I wish they’d stop trying to apply that shenanigans to football.
The Lockout bores me.
I'm with the multiple choices faction
I like learning new things. But I like reading the stats and opinions too. I started reading and joining in MHR in the first place because it has all that and a little bit more. I’m a busy guy. I work work work. No time to watch a game and I come home late a lot. Sometimes all I can find out about Denver is what I learn at this place. Anyway… That’s all I got…
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So pretty much more of everything
I’m actually in that camp as well.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Honestly I can't lose any of these choices.
I mean this site is the best way to get all my Broncos news. This is like picking between three of your favorite pieces of candy. However, with that said, I chose the educational pieces because I always like learning about players I never watched along with learning more about the X’s and O’s of the game since I never played football. I have learned more here than anywhere else.
I do enjoy everything so a “all of the above” answer would really suit my needs, lol. I also want to tip my hat to those who write these because I know there is a lot of time and effort that goes into them.
Now let’s see a deal signed tomorrow so everything can be back to normal.
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Like I pointed out above we will have a bleve of players coming onbard in the next few weeks as well as players leaving.
Posts with a bio of the players and how they may might help our team…Common sense material without a bunch of stats that are meaningless…
I don’t know what category it falls into, but I’d like to see the occasional “little known” story with interesting facts. As a baseball example, I’d point to the story of Cliff Dapper. He is the only baseball player to ever be traded for a broadcaster. He played in the Brooklyn Dodgers farm system, and Branch Rickey needed a new broadcaster. Dapper, a backup catcher, was traded to the minor league Atlanta Crackers of the Southern League for the rights to their radio announcer (redundant, as tv was quite a few years from taking over). The broadcaster? Legendary Ernie Harwell.
Those are the kinds of stories I love that I wish we could hear more of, though I understand that they are difficult to find.
Also, not MHR related, but I’d like to hear more from Horvil Tiki.
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by wtnelson on Jul 24, 2011 10:36 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
+1 What happened to Horvil, guy? He was awesome.
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by orange&blue_aussie on Jul 25, 2011 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I think he got very disgusted with the lockout and faded
Hopefully he will return, but I don’t think he is gone or done.
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