The bigger issue – to me anyway – is getting something of value while there’s a market for Orton. That market has basically dried up. If Denver wants to get something/anything for Orton, they have to do it now and they may have to cave some (not all the way).

In my opinion, the biggest mistake a GM can make is not getting value for something your team doesn’t need/want when there’s a market for it.

I heard (on another post) that Denver has to pay Orton his $ if he’s on the roster tomorrow. If that’s true or directionally true, then Denver could theoretically cut Orton and save $8M this year i fthey can’t move him and if that’s the case, what a shame!

Crazy times.

Elway and Xanders have to get value for Orton, more than a ham sandwich atleast. We can’t look like a bunch of push overs again.

miami needs orton. they can talk all they want about sticking with henne or going with kyle boller or something, but come on. they’re in a stare down but they need to give up at least an equivalent of a 3rd at some point.

unfortunately if we give the reigns to Tebow with Orton still on the team, Orton’s value is shot :(

we need to get some kind of value out of him, whether he sticks around and pouts on the sideline just to throw in snippets of info to Tebow (or starts so that Tebow can get a few more looks from the sideline), or we get him out on a trade to benefit us in the future (hopefully), either way we won’t release him.

Its a FanPost by womeone who doesn’t know Orton.

I think Orton is ARGUABLY (but not definitely) the best QB on the market, but in no way is he the obvious choice for ‘best available’. Some like Hasselbeck best (he has won the playoffs). Some like VY’s upside & value, some like Kolb’s promise even though it comes at a King’s ransom and some like Orton because he isn’t a gunslinger. SOme even like Buler best for their particular situation.

But the reactions from Miami fans and people outside of Denver and Miami should let you know what the public perception of Orton is.

The public perception is:

decent QB, but no shot at ever being elite, stats are better than he is, chokes in big situations, nothing to get excited about.

You can disagree with me all you want. But the public perception is that he’s an average starter. Now that said, I don’t know what Miami or other GMs think he’s worth but it can’t be lightyears better than public perception – and I say that because the best Denver has been offered for him is a pick in the middle of the draft. At the end of the day, teams need to sell tickets too. ANd Orton is not a sexy QB addition to the casual NFL observer.

I think you are right on if Denver does end up passing up a trade. But in reality, Denver needs to overblow his value in order to get a ‘good deal’ from Miami. If Denver went in saying they wanted a #3, Miami would sya that Kyle’s worth a #4 or #5.

The biggest group of overvaluers of Orton exist within the ranks of Bronco COuntry. We tend to put our QB on a pedestal here. ANd at MHR I’ve seen Orton’s value at a #2 all offseason, but I’ve been saying that he’s worth a 3rd or 4th rounder all along.

If Denver can get a #3, I think that’s huge. Realistically, I think they do a #4 and a player or a player and a future pick contingent upon Orton’s 2011.

I can’t imagine having Orton on the Denver roster this year, because sadly, my perception of Orton isn’t too far off of what the public perception is.

Kolb’s value is overblown, but he hasn’t played enough to prove Reid’s value to be too far off. I don’t think Kolb is worth a #1 but maybe a #2. Thing is that nobody knows exactly what he’s worth, and that’s whytheir willing to pay more. I think teams know what Orton’s worth, and we’re realizing that in the current marketplace.

It is more than appropriate for Orton to be taking snaps as NOW is not necessarily the ONLY time the Broncos could reach maximum trade value. Ideally, yes, Orton is traded now for a 2nd at a minimum. If it’s considerably less than this it is highly likely SOMEONE will be needing a quarterback during the season, including Miami. Seems to me Miami is playing games to drive the price down. We’re not so desperate that it wouldn’t make sense to hold on to Orton in the short term. If Miami doesn’t "pony up" then Orton and Tebow should fight it out. Personally, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings for Tebow to have to earn the promotion anyway.