Quarterback Poker

by Tony Astorino on Jul 28, 2011 12:58 PM MDT

The Broncos, Dolphins, Cardinals, and Eagles are all right now locked into a very interesting game of poker. Everyone knows what's going to happen, Orton to Miami, and Kolb to Arizona. However they will both greatly effect each other, and whichever team blinks first is going to determine what goes down in the other trade

Let's start with what each team doesn't want.

Miami doesn't want Arizona to trade a 1st and a player for Kolb, because that gives all the leverage to Denver, because if Kolb goes first for a 1st rd pick and a player, Denver should and would ask for a 1st rd pick from Miami, because Orton is Miami's number 1 target, and Orton is more proven than Kolb.

Philadelphia doesn't want Orton to get traded for a 3rd or worse because than there is no way they would get a higher pick than that from Arizona plus a player.

Denver doesn't want to hold on to Orton much longer. They need Tebow getting reps with the 1st team asap, and also need to avoid a potential Locker Room splitting QB controversy.

Arizona doesn't want Orton to be traded for a high pick because that means that they have to give one up. And from what I've read DRC is more of Philly taking him off the hands of AZ. That means Arizona wants Vince Young to sign with Miami, because this would dramatically reduce the amount Denver would get for Orton. At this point probably wouldn't be more than a 4th. And when Orton's value drops, so does Kolb's. Kolb's drops because Arizona would rather spend a 3rd/4th on Orton rather than a 1st on Kolb (plus that monster contract he wants).

Orton has to play with the first team right now because if he doesn't that shows Miami that they have no intentions of actually keeping him. Making his value drop. Starting Orton with the first team still shows that there is a chance Denver would want to keep him. Keeping his value at a 2nd rd pick.

The way I think it will shake out is; Philly trades Kolb for a 2nd and DRC, and Denver trades Orton for a conditional 3rd/2nd

The only question now is not who has the best poker face, but who has the worst?

Poll

What is Orton worth?

1st

10 votes

2nd

75 votes

3rd

44 votes

4th

6 votes

Anything we can get

30 votes

165 votes | Poll has closed

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Kolb to Arizona is a done deal!

5 years $63 million. No word on what Philly got.

Oh, you were finished? Oh, well, allow me to retort!
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by GrizBronc on Jul 28, 2011 1:01 PM MDT via mobile reply actions

ya just saw on twitter

John Clayton just announced 2nd and DRC. But it is ESPN

by Tony Astorino on Jul 28, 2011 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions

2nd and DRC for Kolb should mean a DT and a pick (3rd?) for Orton.

Oh, you were finished? Oh, well, allow me to retort!
--Jules Winnfield

by GrizBronc on Jul 28, 2011 1:06 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions

I'd think

a 3rd that could turn into a 2nd if Orton performs well

by Tony Astorino on Jul 28, 2011 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions

This is according to multiple sources reported on Sirius NFL radio.

Oh, you were finished? Oh, well, allow me to retort!
--Jules Winnfield

by GrizBronc on Jul 28, 2011 1:02 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions

Just read it on local Dolphins website...

Orton traded for a sixth-rounder and Brandon Marshall’s wife. Here’s the link: http://www.xxxposedonline.com/inventory/10046_1.jpg. Marshall said he was disappointed, but figures there has to be another woman out there willing to stab him when he gets out of line. Go Broncos!

by danielsanchez06 on Jul 28, 2011 1:26 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs

Somthings you just have to REC

"Undo" ~ Rush of Fools

by Zac Man on Jul 28, 2011 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions

couldn't agree more

by Liquor.pig on Jul 28, 2011 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions

I think Orton to Miami is dead.

by gepper33 on Jul 28, 2011 2:06 PM MDT reply actions

I think Orton to Miami

has just begun, now that the Kolb deal has been finalized. Miami wants Orton badly, we need to clear the cap space – it will happen. It wouldn’t shock me to see it happen this evening.

"When Tim Tebow does pushups, he's not pushing himself up, he's pushing the world down."

"Gear down there big shifter This is the "No Bull" review man…" a total Lebowski-esque one liner from Sadaraine, whether he realizes it or not - comedic gold.

by PaleHorse78 on Jul 28, 2011 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs

Agreed

I’m not even worried about it. I don’t think he’s allowed to practice for Miami until August 4th anyway.

I think Bannan isn't coming back, Nate Irving will start at MLB and Tim Tebow starts at QB. Oh, and VonDoom should combine for 20-25 sacks.

by Rodney A on Jul 28, 2011 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions

agreed +1 Pale

who wears short shorts?

by Broncs55 on Jul 28, 2011 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions

Hope you're right Pale !

We need the cap space to get some more FA’s signed !!!

"as in football so in life"
"Look good, play good, play good, pay good, pay good, eat good, eat good, live good, live good, die good".........Primetime

by asinsoin on Jul 28, 2011 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions

I'd like to think so but they could also want Vince Young and keep the draft pick and/or player.

Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.

by BroncoMath101 on Jul 28, 2011 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions

Young was released today

which may be a factor in any Orton trade atm

who wears short shorts?

by Broncs55 on Jul 28, 2011 2:23 PM MDT reply actions

Not a game changer

Everyone knew VY would be released. I just can’t see the Dolphins pinning their hopes on VY…but I could be wrong, IMO if the Orton deal isn’t done by tomorrow evening it’s probably not going to happen.

"as in football so in life"
"Look good, play good, play good, pay good, pay good, eat good, eat good, live good, live good, die good".........Primetime

by asinsoin on Jul 28, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions

prolly so

but that doesn’t mean another team is silently looking at Orton, or even in negotiations with Denver. Just because something isn’t reported doesn’t mean there isn’t something happening.

who wears short shorts?

by Broncs55 on Jul 28, 2011 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions