John Elway is Earning His Spurs!

It would give Orton a shot to prove himself. The clutch piece that cjfarris wrote showed that calling Orton unclutch is silly to do when looking at one season. Also, Orton starting would give Tebow more time to watch and learn from the sidelines. I am very happy with where we are with our cap space and thankful EFX didn’t cave and let Miami shoot themselves in the foot. With an Doom coming back and Miller our D should be improved just because they couldn’t get worse and adding a guy that had 16 sacks in 2009 will help. With McGahee, Moreno and an improved O-line our running game will improve and will help Orton and in turn help our red zone efficiency

not that I’m down on Orton or anything but it’s obvious that Orton is not the future at QB. We are obviously a young team who is rebuilding and why pay that much money to Orton when we already know who the future is. I say play Tebow and see what he’s got, and if we decide he is not the future maybe we get Lucky in the next draft.

I’d have been happy with whatever we could get for Orton instead of watching him lead another losing season and then leave next year with no compensation.

A good debate for sure!

if they think they can win with beck or jackson they’re nuts

This isnt amateur hour were witnessing unlike the last regime

Just an open mind and lets see where it goes. Everyone that thinks this has to be done now just needs some patience.
We are rebuilding. The league has a new contract to work with.
The rules are changed and we have a chance to build under them and like McGeorge says, we have a ways to go.

I like that the FO isn’t so breathless trying to get something done that they fold at the first pushback. Matt Moore? Please….

They have done a great job NOT blowing a wad o’ cash on Williams, Cofield or anyone. This is not fantasy football and the Broncos are not 1 or 2 players from a SB contender. They don’t need to act like it.

Stick to your guns and aim for 2-3 yrs from now.

Great post and rec’d

…..we are going to have a QB controversy. Maybe not in the locker room but in the media and with the fans and this is going to get real old on this site seeing it play out everyday this year. We need to see what we have in Tebow eventually. Why wait another year? We aren’t going too far anyways this season so let’s see if Tebow can play. It seems we are going to delay a year for a 2nd round draft pick? Really? It isn’t worth losing a whole year over. Unless you guys are arguing that Orton can be the QB of not just this year but our future and Tebow is a wasted draft pick. Then I can see the argument. I just don’t agree. But if the thought is he will be good enough for this year but still want to see Tebow the following year, then I really just can’t follow that train of thought. 9 million dollars and a wasted year of development for Tebow because of a 2nd round pick. A second round pick that may never even turn into a quality starter in this league.

and I would like to just plug the young guys in and see what they’ve got. But I find it comical how everyone on this site was begging for this deal to get done the past week and now that it seems like the deal has fell through, they’re supporting Orton to make 9 mil and hold a clipboard.

I still think Orton’s a gonner, and I hope he suceeds elsewhere.

do you really think that the fan base has changed? do you really think that one good pass and a few cheers from the stands is a reason to believe that the fans believe that Orton is wanted for another year?

If that is what happens because we can’t trade him I would be willing to bet you that once we go on a multiple losing streak (which we will) that same fan base will have taken a 180 (assuming your right when you think they want to see him at the helm again) and start the same chants of getting rid of him and changing QB’s. What will we have gained?

If Orton does well and has a 8-8 year what have we gained? He will be gone. Nobodoy believes we are going to resign him long term. But I guess anything can happen.

I still beleive we are going to release him or trade him this year but if we keep him and start him and finish 8-8 or less…..what a wasted season….

I may be on an Island here but I really enjoyed watching the last 3 games even tho our year was toast. Just watching a team play hard under Tebow and the feeling that we just may be able to pull off those 2 losses was a great change from watching us go behind and no that there was no chance in hell that we were going to claw back.

That is what I want to continue with. I would like to see what we have in Tebow with a different team. If he could charge up the guys and make them play the way they did when they could have just given up totally with nothing to gain, I would like to see what he can do with the new players.
I don’t want to go back to milk toast just to set us back another year. If Tebow doesn’t look like he is able to do it then off to market we go.

It could also be that the fans were cheering because they are able to watch football again after the lockout. Uphoria has its way to almost become delusional. And to believe that the fan base has turned around could be just that .

Time will tell….. I just believe it is time to raise the bar and not continue down a road that will most likely take us only part way there….

it could stunt Tebow’s growth.

If we keep Orton and start Tebow, any mistake Tebow makes and there will be plenty (he’s young and should be afforded opportunity to make mistakes and grow) fans and media will be calling for Orton to go in.

And the opposite is true too, if Tebow sits we will constantly be calling for his name.

Even if we keep Orton eventually we will have to decide on who’s the starter and it seems like we are only prolonging the inevitable.

To me its a bad situation to have Orton and Tebow on the same team.

Let’s at least get through camp and the preseason….My money is on Tebow to win the job outright, regardless if Orton is here or not….Orton’s presence will just make Tim work that much harder. As far as team chemistry goes, I imagine it can only get better after last season; QB controversy or not

If we are unable to trade Orton (of which I think is Bullsh*t), then Orton himself has a chance of a lifetime staring him right in the face and his future pocketbook. Orton for the first time in his career will be starting with an offense that has been upgraded higher than anything he has seen or played with. Our running game the last 2 years didn’t help Orton very much and mostly it made his job more difficult (without hearing him make any excuses), his Oline has been in transition since the firing of Shanahan and the hiring of McD with the confusion of learning a new scheme (power blocking) and continuity, he has endured bellyaching wide receivers (Marshall and Scheffler), been rubbed in the face of Tebow starflashes, media criticism and still has held a steady cadence…What more can you or anybody else ask for? Ridiculous analogy with stats? Start Orton with this offense and we may be in for a pleasure ride without the distractions of the past 2 years. Not saying he’ll guide us to the playoffs, even though it is possible, but his toolbox will look and be a lot fuller than it has been since being here. Start Orton and I will be behind him 100%! 13-3 baby!!! Until we ain’t!

I couldn’t agree more with:

Each day that passes with Orton not being dealt for a pair of used underwear and a sack of oats is a day that our confidence in Elway should grow.

This, not so much:

2011 is looking mighty good right now, so Go Broncos!

Easy does it. Talking like that, you’ll be headed for a heartbreak. I’d change 2011 to 2013 and then I think we’re being realistic.

1. Clearly the Broncos wanted to trade Orton. They failed.

2. Orton is gone after this year, I think that’s fairly obvious. So if he’s gone, why not get him out now? Why have this lingering awkwardness that is almost exactly like the awkwardness we had with Cutler/McDaniels?

3. Now we have a lame duck QB who is here and eating up the reps and playing time for Tebow who needs to be seen in the starting role. As a fan I hate to say it, but this could be a 4 – 6 win team again this year and with Andrew Luck on the horizon, this needs to be settled this year. Orton hanging around just gums up the works even now! Tebow needs to have a camp as the starter.

4. The Broncos have salary cap issues and we are renting Orton for a year at big bucks. That salary needed to be gone and again, the Broncos failed to move it.

5. If anything, EXF were to hardline. They tried to get too high a pick. Orton should have been moved for a 7th rounder if need be. The trade was never about the pick, it was about moving Orton this year and saving $$.

Feel free to talk me down from my ledge, but I don’t think this played out well.

Guys. Orton asked Miami for way more than they wanted to pay him. Denver and Miami had a deal in place, but Miami couldn’t sign Orton.

That not EFX’s fault. Honestly, it’s McD for signing him to a two year contract will all the pain in year 2.

Just one more piece of crap left behind from Josh’s godawful handling of the GM role.

Bring it and get it done young man….

Put yourself in KO’s shoes……take a pay cut and short term deal to move, or take 9mil now…..

Orton as a grind it out, it’s ok to punt every now and then kind of QB might be better than he was last year. Last year he was an upper middle pack QB that seemed to flinch when it was all on his shoulders. Seems like he could move up because:
Our OL will be better if only by experience.
Our running game will be better if only by design.
Our defense will be better, cause we can’t get much worse and we have better tools to work with.
Our coach understands a good punt is not always a bad play.
We have lost nothing to speak of. The DL we cut have not been courted and or signed, same at RT and we have made movement to soilidfy both positiions.
Our defensive approach will become chained lightning, hence the speed and that’s what the FO has told us they want.
Tebow is the bomb! I’m not sure yet if that’s Da Bomb or a bomb he won’t be in the middle for long.
Orton staying for now is not a bad thing. Competition, Insurance and value.

Now I better go read the post.

Feels more like he got shown up by Orton. It isn’t the end of the world, but I don’t think this is Elway proving anything, other than he didn’t think all this all the way through.

whoever is throwing the rock for us this year, at least it won’t be against asomougha twice a year.

WINNING!

Rookies come in/sign @ reasonable prices and even the vets are signing reasonably. Cofield/Mebane could have been had if we wanted them.

M Thomas will come down on his asking price.