Mile High Report Poll of the Week for July 3, 2011
by Topher Doll on Jul 3, 2011 2:00 PM MDT
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Last week we saw one of the most lopsided polls I've seen yet on MHR. We voted on what the biggest free agency need was, and it wasn't even close, with defensive tackle taking 92% of the votes, the next closest option, the running back position, only got 6% of the votes, 20 out of 346 votes. So it's obvious who the fans want the Broncos front office focusing on when free agency begins when a new CBA is signed. So here is the data from last week:
| Answer: | Votes | Percentage |
|---|---|---|
| Defensive Tackle | 320 | 92% |
| Linebacker | 1 | 1% |
| Offensive Lineman | 5 | 1% |
| Running Back | 20 | 6% |
| Other | 0 | 0% |
| Total: | 346 | 100% |
With another great response from last week, among our best responses yet, I'm excited to keep this going. At this point, I've got quite the list of questions compiled, so hopefully these keep you entertained. Let's get to this weeks poll of the week.
So often coaching is what takes a team over the edge. Great coaches can find and develop talent (Andy Reid), they can out plan the opposing coach (Bill Belichick), they can motivate a team to greatness (Rex Ryan). This weeks question will ask who is the best coach in the NFL now. Now it's important to keep a few things in mind, I don't like some coaches on this list, take Bill Belichick, I don't like him, but if I have a team, and I want a coach, he's going to be high on my list because I think he's one of the better coaches in the league. So think of this, if you could hire a coach for your new team, who would it be? Now I didn't include every coach, if you felt I left the one you were thinking of off, answer "other" and put who you think it should be in the comments.
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must be hard having lost your favorite coach.....sound like your lashing out has just been a coping mechanism
luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan
Nice, McG.
-Harvey J. Neptune
Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.
Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."
I have never believed a coach's past success means he will have future success.
I chose “Other”, but who I wouldn’t know until 3 years after hiring him. :)
Safe bet
I mean look at BB, he sucked in Clevelan, and now he’s got a few rings on his fingers.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Rex Ryan
He may be a total doofus, but the man is a defensive genius. Took his team to 2 straight AFC Championship games his first 2 years.
His players love him and every player that goes to New York never wants to leave.
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That is who I chose
Because he is a motivator, my feeling is that he would bring results the quickest. If I am building a team for the long haul, then yes I would have to go with BB.
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None of them
I would go for Cowher or Dungay given the chance but they don’t fall under the remit of NFL coaches at present.
I have so many friends some I haven't even used yet
by BlobTheMagnificent on Jul 3, 2011 2:46 PM MDT reply actions
Yea I was looking at current NFL coaches.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I would agree with Cower, but
Max did say who is the best “now”. I voted, hesitantly, for Peyton. He has a history of results achieved even when starting with a less than stellar team, but without the baggage of BB. Tomlin started with team and system intact, but at least he didn’t mess it u; it will be longer before he starts building his own resume, at ;least IMO.
Mike Tomlin tied for the most as of me writing this? Seriously?
I’m not doubting whether or not he is a good coach. I’m just wondering if he is the beneficiary of:
1. A preexisting franchise QB
2. A talented preexisting roster with tons of depth
3. Possibly the best franchise in professional sports
4. A stable GM with a solid draft history
5. One of the best, if not the best defensive coordinator ever in Dick Lebeau
6. Dedicated fans.
What has he done other than be the beneficiary of this?
by swg777 on Jul 3, 2011 5:58 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree...he is the Trent Dilfer of Head Coaches!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!
Total agreement.
Watch Dick Lebeau retire and see how well Mikey does.
"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." - Calvin Coolidge
I put alot of weight behind what John Lynch says about Tomlin. He thinks very highly of him and has since way back in their TB days.
Defensive minded guy that preaches physicality and has the respect of the players, in turn getting the most out of them.
Combine his skills with the great situation he inherited, and no wonder they always seem to be in the final four.
luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan
I like that Tomlin is tough and soft-spoken.
His demeanor carries well on the sideline. Some coaches rant and yell. Some tend to come off as aloof and disconnected. I like a coach who can give you “the look” and doesn’t need to say anything else, but will coach you up when needed.
-Harvey J. Neptune
Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.
Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."
Mike McCarthy...he has built a perennial SB contender, dealt with the Favre situation with aplomb and helped develop Rodgers.
Builds from the draft and has done a REMARKABLE job in about 4 seasons. Foxy reminds me of him. Fingers crossed!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!
by boydy2669 on Jul 3, 2011 5:58 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
If I wanted a cold faced chater then Belicheat
I went with a Ryan, defensive genius brought below avg QB to two AFC championships.
All of his players love him and would go to war with him.
-Champ Bailey's calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Champ Bailey-
-The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese -
EDIT: cold faced "cheater"
-Champ Bailey's calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Champ Bailey-
-The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese -
Quarterbacks
I think quarterback is the most important player on a team, and for that reason I would chose Andy Reid. Every QB he touches turns to gold, and his teams are always in the mix. He isn’t included in the great coach debate because he hasn’t won anything but that’s who I would go with
Here's to Tebow being the starter in 2011!
I personally would choose Andy Reid as well
Because I haven’t seen anyone evaluate, and maximize, talent like him since Holmgren or Walsh.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Totally agree.
It was a hard choice for me between Reid and Payton. I love Reid for the above mentioned reasons. He isn’t as much of a player motivator as I would look for, but he’s definitely got some talent in the side-job aspects of coaching. I think if he could really push and motivate his team and bring them the kind of energy some of these other coaches do, then his team would have won at least one (if not a couple) Lombardi’s last decade.
I went with Payton because he’s just got the whole package. Is he the best talent evaluator on that list? Nope. Is he the best GM-type coach on that list? Nope. Is he the best player motivator on that list? Nope. But he’s pretty darn good at all three, and he’s willing to put his ball up on the iron when he needs to, and I don’t care who you are – players respect that and play their hearts out.
Sean Payton will be a Saints coach for a VERY long time.
"It is better to be rougly right than precisely wrong." - John Maynard Keynes
"Excellence can be obtained; if you care more than others think is wise…risk more than others think is safe…dream more than others think is practical…expect more than others think is possible." - Anonymous Author
by Alexander Wall on Jul 3, 2011 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Its like with Terrel Davis as a running back.
He wasn’t the fastest RB out there. He wasn’t the quickest RB out there. And he definitely wasn’t the strongest RB out there. But the guy was tough as nails, and was darn good at every aspect of his game. And that’s why he’s one of the greatest Broncos RB to ever play the game. I’ll be bummed if he doesn’t eventually make it into the HOF one day. Sure he didn’t have a long career, so of course he won’t be an early selection, but he should make it someday. The guy did everything you could do (and he did it in a really short career!) as a RB, and was the primary reason we won B2B Superbowls.
"It is better to be rougly right than precisely wrong." - John Maynard Keynes
"Excellence can be obtained; if you care more than others think is wise…risk more than others think is safe…dream more than others think is practical…expect more than others think is possible." - Anonymous Author
by Alexander Wall on Jul 3, 2011 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Almost every other coach on the list...
has a proven GM getting the pieces of the puzzle through the draft and free agency (except for Andy Reid), but Belichick is the one that has the final say in NE. Yes, Scott Pioli was viewed as the mastermind, but he’s gone and Bill has continued to retool without Scott as well as having the final say when Pioli was there.
Yes, he comes with some past issues, but the man continues to excel no matter what is thrown at him. He doesn’t have a Dick Lebeau or Jim Johnson (Andy Reid) to run his defense. You can’t game plan for the team without looking in the mirror, as Belichick has a tendency to look for what you do well and take it away, and force you to do what you don’t do very well.
He comes across as a bit of a dick in interviews, but if you are starting from scratch, you couldn’t do much better that to start with Bill Belichick.
"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." - Calvin Coolidge
Since we're discussing now
I went with McCarthy though I don’t have a strong feeling about it. To me, McCarthy and Payton are similar in talent and performance, while Tomlin has gotten the job done and Ryan has the Jets at the door. McCarthy has only had one losing record in 5 seasons (the year of all the nonsense with Favre) and developed a team that should compete for a title for several years.
On the other hand, Belichick is the only coach of the group who has had to face replacing a number of his core SB winning players and still maintained a very competitive team.
All this talk about coaches not being worthy because they have great GMs or DCs or QBs bothers me.
It is part of the head coach’s job to put together the best team he can, including deciding who his assistants will be, and evaluating players. Tomlin came into a Super Bowl franchise and KEPT IT at the same level. How hard is that to do? Shanahan couldn’t make the Broncos a contender again without Elway and TD. Tomlin shouldn’t be criticized because he’s got so much talent around him. He made the decision to keep the scheme. He adjusted. He didn’t come in and retool everything and take years of downtime fixing something that wasn’t broken. That takes good judgment just like the rebuilding coaches. It has to be tough to rebuild a team. But I submit that it is tougher to take over a winning franchise and KEEP it at a winning level. It takes humility and personal adjustment to keep what works and to get the team to buy into your style after already being with a winning coach.
-Harvey J. Neptune
Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.
Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."
by HarvJNep2n on Jul 3, 2011 9:13 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Right on Harv! That's what I'm talking about.
I’d have picked him too, but he tends to let too much shady stuff go on with his players. Sure, he doesn’t really have any control over that… but he could run a tighter ship over there. The guy did an epic job though.
"It is better to be rougly right than precisely wrong." - John Maynard Keynes
"Excellence can be obtained; if you care more than others think is wise…risk more than others think is safe…dream more than others think is practical…expect more than others think is possible." - Anonymous Author
by Alexander Wall on Jul 3, 2011 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions
However...
Cases like Tomlin are rare. Usually a new coach comes in because things weren’t working and the old coach was fired. The ball club wanted a new direction an went with a new man. Tomlin took over for Cowher, who retired. But you are right. It does a humble (and great) man to realize that the wheel ain’t broken, it just changed hands.
John Fox
Why wasn’t Fox on this list? Why would any true Broncos fan want another team’s coach when you already have a good one? I pick John Fox . . . for now.
My second pick is Marty Schottenheimer. He did well in Cleveland and Kansas City and would have done better with better front office support. He cleaned up the awful mess in Washington and had the team going in the right direction when he was unfairly fired by an impatient owner. Then he cleaned up San Diego and was doing well when he got fired by an impatient owner, only to be substituted by Norv Turner who has underperformed. I think Marty can win the big one with good front office support. After all, Cleveland and Kansas had to go against a little team in the West called the Denver Broncos and John Elway to get to the Super Bowl. You can’t blame Marty for that.
Orton, Tebow, Quinn, may the best man win!
by OrangeandBluesBros on Jul 4, 2011 6:32 AM MDT reply actions
Fox isn't on this list
Because he doesn’t have a ring, like most of these coaches, and he doesn’t have the sustained success, like most of these coaches. Fox hasn’t had sustained success and struggled to maintain a good team, I wouldn’t rank Fox in my top 15 coaches in the NFL at this point, but I do think he’s a good coach who can turn Denver around.
As for Shotty, if he were still coaching, sure, but this is only for current NFL coaches.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I put Fox under "other"
and look forward to see what he can do with the new Broncos front office. Until he screws up with the Broncos, I’m sticking with him.
Orton, Tebow, Quinn, may the best man win!
by OrangeandBluesBros on Jul 4, 2011 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions
I have no issue with Fox
He’s a proven coach with lots of experience, which is what we need to right this ship. Now I don’t think many people would put Fox in the top 10 coaches, but I would put him in the upper half of the league.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Other - Kubiac
Maybe I’m old fashion and just miss the 90’s a bit. (The 90’s old fashion…geeze that just sounds weird)
Other - Mike Shanahan
We are talking about Coach. I would give GM control to someone else. In this “What if” scenario I would pair Mike up with Ozzie Newsome.
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
Jeff Bridges
Davis and Smith to the Hall!
"Teamwork divides the task and double the success."
- Unknown
Now that would be a coach to see
But I would question his ability to motivate his players.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
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