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Report: Willis McGahee Isn't a Denver Bronco

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There seems to be some confusion regarding the whole "Willis McGahee is a Bronco" story. Yesterday (before 4 pm MST), reports surfaced from Pro Football Talk and Adam Schefter that he would sign a 3 year, $7.5 million dollar deal with the Denver Broncos.

Ever since that time, however, reports from the likes of Gary Miller and Jason La Canfora have squelched the idea that Willis McGahee is joining Knowshon Moreno in the Bronco backfield.

So, what's the deal... or is there one?

Star-divide

There's some confusion on the McGahee front. Checked with more sources and told no deal with DEN. Team likely to workout RBs this weekend...less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®  Favorite  Retweet  Reply


Color me confused.

This all made sense yesterday, when our very own John Bena said the following:

Why the confusion?  Simple, the Broncos can't talk to Willis McGahee until the official personnel list is released by the NFL at around 4PM et this afternoon.  PFT has the details.

It is over 15 hours past the official personnel list was released, so if preliminary talks were already happening, you'd think that they'd be finished by now. Vince Young is already an Eagle and Roy Williams is already a Bear, so why is Willis McGahee not a Bronco?

Is this a case of premature reporting? We all know that Willis McGahee and his agent indicated that they want to come to denver, but is there any evidence of reciprocating interest from the Broncos, as well? Perhaps the Broncos and McGahee are, indeed, negotiating a contract, but haven't come to an agreement? Maybe everything is agreed upon, but the papers haven't gone through the league office?

Whatever the case may be, keep it locked on MileHighReport for all the late-breaking news. We'll sort this mess out when more information surfaces.

Go Broncos!!!


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No. Ronnie Brown would be a better fit than Willis.

"Well at least we picked a good year to suck" said Pat Bowlen after countersigning Von Miller's rookie contract.

by McGeorge on Jul 30, 2011 7:34 AM MDT reply actions  

I've found myself agreeing with you quite a bit, lately...

and this is another instance. I’d take Brown over Willis, too.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Jul 30, 2011 7:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ronnie Brown can throw passes to quarterbacks

for big gainers, just like this fellow

Brad James

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by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Steve Sewell....

With broken-jaw protecting facemask = BadA** Mofo……

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jul 30, 2011 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kind of RB Style

he sounds like a traditional between the tackles kind of back, and moreno is more a speed outside kind of back

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by a16416 on Jul 30, 2011 7:37 AM MDT reply actions  

I would take neither, and this is another example of poor performance in the front office. What a thouroughly disappointing FA period for our once proud team.

I like McGahee more than Brown though.

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

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by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 7:38 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree Boydy

No big names (or names we care about). No impact players. A bungled Orton fiasco.
The “We’re ready” comment from Fox didn’t hold water.
  Someone here yesterday quipped “Amateur Hour at Dove Vally”

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

We are assuming way too much

Blaming EFX on the Orton trade “fiasco”. Apparently, KO asked to be traded because he felt the team wanted to go forward with Tebow. Kyle backed out of the contract negotiations with Miami. He didn’t want to surrender free agent years for a pay cut to go to Miami. Miami is not in a position to pay Kyle’s 8.8 million dollar salary this season, so the deal fell apart.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18583140

I don’t know how good Klis’s sources are, but it seems very plausible

by CH74 on Jul 30, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

a story behind the story

Sounds very credible. It also tells a story about what passes for information normally, since the narrative about compensation was purely speculative and, more importantly, wrong.

We don’t often surrender to the knowledge that we were wrong. Instead, for almost all of us, a new layer of narrative is added to the old. The newly combined narrative is a reconciled version that repairs the defects in the original. And it, too, is wrong.

Much of what passes as sports journalism is fiction. It’s invented. And it’s invented with certain attitudes in mind. In the minds of fans, exists a caricature. This caricature can be embellished on and made more ‘believable,’ but the fact that many fans find the caricature believable is not an indication of its truth. Events have a Rorschach test aspect to them. We project our beliefs upon events. For instance, attacks by the likes of W. Paige (an unethical writer) against Moreno, are premised on a negative attitude towards McDaniels. Paige can claim that Moreno is a bust for the simple reason that many fans have bought into the narrative that everything McDaniels did was wrong.

******* George Santayana described fanaticism as -- "redoubling your effort after you've forgotten your aim"

by Colinski on Jul 30, 2011 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Boydy

when your 4-12 and you’ve dove into NFL obscurity so far, it’s not so easy to bring everyone you want into the building. We’re gonna have to build our team the right way, from the ground up – through the draft (like the Steelers, Colts, and Packers). I’m curious as to why peeps don’t think Willis McGahee is a good fit for #2, rotation back? Where they expecting AP or CJ2K???

"When Tim Tebow does pushups, he's not pushing himself up, he's pushing the world down."

"Gear down there big shifter This is the "No Bull" review man…" a total Lebowski-esque one liner from Sadaraine, whether he realizes it or not - comedic gold.

by PaleHorse78 on Jul 30, 2011 7:48 AM MDT reply actions  

Thats something that's not brought up often

Denver isn’t the most appealing places to land anymore. Even if we can convince some of these FAs to come over, they may demand a price that is too high, because, (sigh) we suck.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep, but half of our problem is the PR we are getting. We just look like an unprofessional outfit in the FO too...which is not good...

We need to look SO on our game that FA’s, coaches, sponsors, new fans, present fans look and say “Wow…Denver is really turning it around.”
Well, based on this week, most would be thinking:
“what the hell is going on over there.”
Take this example (and its fiction….did NOT happen but maybe it could have.)
Denver offers same or better deal to Mebane, but Mebane sees whats going on, sees no other quality FA’s come in, sees the way the whole Orton trade was handled. His agent says “Stay away…its a cluster”
I am looking at it from a total different perspective I guess, but it does not inspire me at all.

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 8:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Boydy, please tell me how the FO is looking unprofessional

because I can give you about 5-6 very good reasons why they’re doing better than the last regime. All indications point to Orton being what screwed up the Miami deal, and how is this their fault? Should we throw all our money to used up NFL players; ala the Panthers and Skins? How did the Haynesworth fiasco work out for Snyder? They inherited this mess that Shanny and McD left behind, and ITS NOT going to be turned around in one year. We will have a bunch of bad to mediocre lineman again, but we will have better coaching and schemes, especially on the defensive side of the ball. That counts for a lot.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Haynesworth is a douche

sorry, a Delta Bravo, Jim Rome would skin me alive if he heard that, but anyone who only plays well when he thinks the circumstances are propitious is not someone with character. Thus, I was glad when Michael Lombardi tweeted earlier today that New England took Fat Albert Haynesworthless because Shanny almost traded him to us. That wouldn’t have gone well because players are sheeples.

As much as players mocked us during the lockout on Twitter for not knowing what was up, they sure fall under the aura and spell of the Patriots rather swiftly.

How many titles have the Pats won since 2004? As many as I have!

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by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Come on Brad...but how many times have they been in the play offs, had the best record in the NFL or AFC...I would take that EVERY year. BB takes risks....I wish we would have taken a flyer on Haynesworth!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

I honestly

think Haynesworth would have played for us like he did the Skins and probably embarrassed us somehow. It’s just like Randy Moss with the Raiders, I won’t try hard, but all of a sudden I go to New England, then I look like Jerry Rice again. We need players that want to be Broncos and want to help us succeed. Von Miller and Rahim Moore are those types of players. We’re headed the right direction.

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by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Miller and Moore had no choice in where they went.

FA do. and they didn’t want to come to this disheveled team.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

We won't always be this way

now that we have a coach with integrity. Let’s give this year’s team a shot and see what happens.

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not sharing your optimism...hope I am wrong....I want to see youth.

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

I am a Mavericks fan

in the NBA, which we probably won’t see this season but anyway, there was a time when the Mavs were considered the worst franchise in professional sports. Obviously that is no longer the case. Let’s just find a system that works (I know Fox’s system has a track record of long-term success in the NFL) and hope that things turn around swiftly. I’d rather follow the Broncos than some $%$%%%$ lockout!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

they changed ownership

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

So you're saying

Mr. Bowlen needs to go now?

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by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

no! I'm saying Sarver has to go!! (Suns fan)

I just meant different scenario.

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Suns and Mavs

are what the NBA needs more of. Screw the Lakers and Heat.

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jul 31, 2011 12:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sad but true

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

I would not want Haynesworth in Denver uniform EVER

He is a team chemistry nightmare and ever since his one breakout year in Tennessee he has been mediocre at best. I don’t like Haynesworth and I would be terrified of the direction the team was heading in if we picked him up.

Never let them see you bleed.

by the_prodigal_fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pats have a rep for taking jerks and turning them around.

Haynesworth only got a minor 1 year deal so he knows it is either make or break time. My guess is Ochochino will grow up; they’ll fine him every time he plays the fool. A good, strong coach (BB) and good record = landing some big names.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Randy Moss

worked for a little while, I’ll give them that

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

No worries....
  • Releasing info they signed McGahee.
  • Putting a “For Sale” sign on Kyle Orton and not having their ducks in a row to get it done (even though Orton held it up, that should have been one of the things they had a contingency plan for. IF and BIG IF Denver agreed to pay his bonus so Dolphins off hook for 1.5 M then major kudos, but highly doubtful).
  • Still not restructured Brian Dawkins that should have been done hour 1 to get him on the field. This, after him organizing all off season work outs and repping team at CBA negotiation.

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Restructured the FO so that were rid of dictatorship

Resigned Champ Bailey

Brought in a defensive HC that has taken his team deep into the playoffs, instead of hiring another hotshot Billichick wanna be

Had a draft that most analysts have graded from B – A

Didnt cave in to Miami’s low ball offer

Traded an older WR that we were going to cut anyway for a younger lineman

Didnt throw tons of cash at FAs ala Williams/Johnson and the Panthers. Like Pale said, we build this team through the draft, not the Shanny way

I’d say they’re doing better than Shanny and TONS better than Belichick Jr

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just when do you want the FO to stand on it's own merits?

The truth is we have no idea what happened in the Orton thing. Perhaps FEX held him in higher regard than what the rest of the NFL did.
And no one actually knows about the ‘dictatorship’ …….only what X has said.

Not that we care about the talking heads, but NO ONE graded our draft an A. Other than perhaps some fans.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Here you go

http://www.milehighreport.com/2011/5/2/2148939/2011-nfl-draft-grades-denver-broncos-draft-grades-from-around-the-web

Theres a couple As in there, and mostly Bs.

Well maybe you’re right about the Orton thing, but if we can’t trade him and he starts for us in 2011, is that really the worst thing ever? Its not like the were in the Bengals situation, or Arizona post Warner

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah actually the Dictatorship was pretty well documented

Ellis and Bowlen gave McD the reigns and he did some pretty dumb moves. If you believe otherwise then you’re the only one who does

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

And Calikula wins with a knock-out

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeo...but thats a pretty low standard to compare against...

And you are misinformed about Miami offer. AS Gregg Rosenthal tweeted, Ortons contract demands left both the Broncos and Dolphins “flat footed” which means they were not ready for that contingency.
Everything else above SHOULD be standard operating practices…..and I guess that brings me back to my theory on all us Denver fans:
WE ARE STARTING TO PRAISE MEDIOCRITY AND THINKING ITS ELITE……and its frankly, sad.
I have been on record that Mike Shanahan most OVER RATED coach ever, we were just fortunate we employes a coach worse than in McDaniels…oi vey!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes...

They were not prepared for that contingency….

THAT is the real problem. Now they need to fix that, now!

McGeorge says be patient. We’ve been patient for years now.

Keeping Orton means being patient for another year. I don’t want to be patient for another year. Give me something to believe in. I don’t believe in Orton.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jul 30, 2011 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

What do you expect?

We were 4-12 last year. We suck. It will take time to rebuild this mess. We can’t solve our problems with one draft and one year of FA. We will build this team through the draft. If were 8-8 this year then I will be more than happy. That shows progression from 4-12. That means year 2 were in the playoffs and year three we can make a run and start signing the big FAs

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lets not be so cruel to the only guy who brought us back to back SB victories and set a then NFL record for W/L over a 3 year period. 46 and 10 I believe. While SB rings dont tell the whole story, there are coaches out there who are awesome in the regular season but just cant win it all. Schottenheimer and Reid come to mind. It took Cower something like 15 years or more. We were also at least relevant from the period of 2000-2005. Theres also the record he has against the hated Raiders. Not to mention he’s left as the coach with the most victories the Broncos ever had

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

If

the Broncos were caught flat footed by Ortons contract demands then they are falling flat
I don’t believe for a second that no one in Denver was aware of what Kyle would want in a trade. Why even enter negotiations if you don’t know?

Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.

by Sean in Pa. on Jul 30, 2011 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry if I seem like Im attacking you Boydy

but I just wanted to give you my perspective

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not at all man....its a nice discussion......I just think we are basically sucking at the moment.....and I am SO hoping they prove me wrong!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think were gonna surprise a few folks Boydy

But when I say that were gonna be 8-8 not 4-12. after that, playoffs, and then Superbowl baby!!!

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

The truth is we have zero idea what caused the Orton fiasco.

At some point the McD finger pointing needs to turn around and stop……this has been the FEX year. Period. To be judged on it’s own merits.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just a note about how the Orton deal is a little on EFX....

Sure, they have a tough card to play with Orton. But if you are going to go into a trade like that, and allow it to be publicized, I think you better be pretty sure its going to go through. If you don’t think Orton is going to be able to agree to a contract, you may not want to start that deal.

I don’t think its fair to say Orton screwed it up, he’s just trying to work out a deal (that from what I read was pretty reasonable $6M/yr for a few years).

Now the Broncos have a failed deal for their starting QB……and we know how that worked out last time (see Cutler 2009).

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jul 30, 2011 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

And we get basically nothing for him next year....

when the young QB’s from this year have somewhat established themselves there probably won’t be as many QB hungry teams.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Perhaps it may not have been timed correctly....

Couldn’t they have publicly said he is for sale earlier than what they did (I’m not sure) It may have made a difference.

In any case, surely John Elway should have known what this whole mess has done to the psychs and confidence of the two QB’s. They both lose some.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nope.....I am almost inclined to go with what we have Pale...I was interested in DW but glad we did not pay for him....

I just dont like going the FA route for RB, but favor it for DT’s due to development times of both.

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I with you here BB

In retrospect on the past week, the FO had a bad day yesterday. KO getting traded was priority #1 and the week started as such.

We are all of the belief that we are rebuilding and EFX admitted that too, I can see getting McGahee if KO was gone, for some vet leadership for TT. But if we arent shipping out KO, keep the roster as is and take our lumps since the year will basically be a waste unless KO turns into SuperQB

by Clompy on Jul 30, 2011 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought Bucky was pretty helpful at times. What did that announcer call him during one game last year?

I recall a washed up RB from TB working out pretty well until he was injured in 2008…. I can’t remember his name, though. Some of those guys have a few games left in them. If we just don’t overpay we can get value from older running baks.

-Harvey J. Neptune

Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.

Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."

by HarvJNep2n on Jul 30, 2011 7:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Carl!!!!!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 8:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

LMAO! That's right! I remember now!

Carl Buckblaster!

-Harvey J. Neptune

Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.

Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."

by HarvJNep2n on Jul 30, 2011 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

My short-sighted, knee-jerk reaction is

the worst Ravens are better than the best Broncos. Unfortunately. So let’s get good players and make them Broncos. How simple is that?

-Harvey J. Neptune

Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.

Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."

by HarvJNep2n on Jul 30, 2011 7:49 AM MDT reply actions  

McGahee

Still showed he can run up the middle last year. No reason not to add a good up the middle/third down back. If While can step up that’s fine but so far we have not seen it.

Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.

by Sean in Pa. on Jul 30, 2011 7:53 AM MDT reply actions  

I think McGahee is too old and too expensive. I’d rather go with Lance Ball, or give another young guy a chance.

by buckinghorse on Jul 30, 2011 8:03 AM MDT reply actions  

Maybe the only option j/k

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jerry Mguire

If we don’t show the free agents the money you can forget it. Runing backs know they aren’t playing that long so they better get it now

by Baghdad on Jul 30, 2011 8:15 AM MDT reply actions  

I did wonder if the right money was being dangled at these FA,

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Willis would be a good fit. So would Brown and Mcclain. I’m just glad we didn’t pay D. Williams. If we get one of those 3, I will be happy.

luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan

by chikndnnr on Jul 30, 2011 8:16 AM MDT reply actions  

Yup....

3 years, 7.5 Mil for a good RB who is coming from a good team. Sounds pretty no brainer to me.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jul 30, 2011 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think I'd like McGahee

just so after Broncos wins he plays a role in I can say

Brad James

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by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 8:27 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Well, I ASSUME they know what they're doing...

After all, EFX are no doubt earning millions. However I did think the same thing about McD…

Long distance love affairs are always the most poignant.

by longshot356 on Jul 30, 2011 8:48 AM MDT reply actions  

He would compliment KM well...and it's a bargain.

I am so glad we diddn’t break the bank on DW!

When Willis was splitting carries with Rice, he was very effective. Last year they almost didn’t use him at all due to Rice getting almost all the touches.

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by Broncotodd on Jul 30, 2011 8:54 AM MDT reply actions  

I believe three things.

1.) He isn’t a Bronco yet because they screwed up by contacting too early. I think its a smokescreen.

2.) I truly believe the Orton deal has fouled everything up. Its not on the Denver FO but on Orton and his agent from everything I have seen. My guess is that the deal was in place but the contract could not be agreed upon. Miami wants a starter, Orton wants to be paid like a starter, Ireland doesn’t believe he should pay Orton like a starter.

3.) One of the results of Elway’s tweet fetish is that now, when we don’t hear something, we think everything is going poorly. I’m too old to let this have an affect on my life. If they screw it up, so be it. They’ll be replaced in due time.

by quinnsdad on Jul 30, 2011 8:54 AM MDT reply actions  

haha

I said the same thing yesterday on another site.

“We lead the league in tweets but still have no DT.”

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 8:58 AM MDT reply actions  

This is a little off topic question from me and just wondering what everyone’s thoughts are. I don’t think I’ve seen Bannan get picked up by anyone, any chance we bring him back?

by wiebrod on Jul 30, 2011 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

not much choice but to hope for that

but I don’t think Bannon has shown up for any practices.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think he can’t because he was cut. He would have to be resigned. I could be totally wrong though.

by wiebrod on Jul 30, 2011 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

He was offered a 1 year deal by us this week...and Marcus Thomas has seen no action either.

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

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by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that and was wondering.

by wiebrod on Jul 30, 2011 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, not if Orton is on the team.

He would be a good leader for Tebow and the young back field. An added wast of money for a lame duck QB situation if Orton remains

by Clompy on Jul 30, 2011 9:01 AM MDT reply actions  

Orton proved last year he was no leader for Tebow.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agree...

Orton has made it perfectly clear he has ZERO interest in being a backup/mentor.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jul 30, 2011 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Couple of thoughts

 waited for the free agency “splash” just like the rest of the Bronco faithful, but then i started thinking……….we need three areas of help, RB, DT and DB, then I tried to come up with some solutions I think would help. Starting with RB, I think we need a between the tackles back so bring in McClain, McGehee and Marion Barber and go from there, as far as DB lets think about calling Washington and trading Kyle Orton for their restricted free agent Carlos Rodgers straight across, anf finally DT bring in and sign Landri, then maybe take a look at Jenkins or other quality second teir DT’s. Now I don’t know what EFX is thinking, but I like building through the draft, but it is also known that you need tyo have some kind of mix between veterens and younger players to build a winner.

by David.Mandarich on Jul 30, 2011 9:09 AM MDT reply actions  

A mix of the draft and FA has shown fruitful for other teams.

We desperately need a DT. No splash; barely a trickle.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

another thought

what if we keep Orton…………..then maybe Tebow has a chance to grow like Aaron Rodgers did, learn the system and practice your craft. When Green Bay drafted Rodgers alot of the scouts banged on him like they do on Tebow. would it be all that bad to have him sit and learn, its not like we were going to compete for a Super Bowl this year. I think most of us are going to be happy if they just show an improvement from the past two years.

by David.Mandarich on Jul 30, 2011 9:13 AM MDT reply actions  

that isn't a bad thing' It's the no compensation for him next year which hurts.

And no matter how many pins fans want to stick in a McD doll, Xanders was the money / contract negotiattor who gave KO the 8.8 mill for this year.

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

may get something for him in terms of compensatory picks

the best teams routinely nab a compensatory pick or two for the privilege of hanging onto good players for an extra year.

Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 30, 2011 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not the same situation...and people keep bringing it up...

Rodgers was behind Favre…whether you like him or hate him one of the best ever.
Orton is a journeyman….and does not want to help develop Tebow…PLUS…..they are not even remotely the same QB.
Favre and Rodgers VERY similar.
It does NOTHING….ABSOULUTELY NOTHING…for Tebow to sit behind Orton except hold up his development!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

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by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

We all begrudgingly know you're right.

Not just different style of QB, but totally different personalities. KO wouldn’t even talk with Tebow on the sdielines and TT wouldn’t say something negative about a rat chewing his leg.
Taking snaps from the 2nd string center does not help. Game time will.
On the other hand at least Tebow won’t be blamed when (if) the Broncos don’t get to .500. The expectaions for him were far to high…….considering the rest of the team

Fact: : Less Governemnt = Common Sense

Let Tebow play his game.

by Boiler etc on Jul 30, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

And we build a better team around him

better O line, running backs, D line, etc

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

not quite sure

I agree Farve was one of the best ever, but as I recall Farve was not to high on helping Rodgers when he was drafted. As far as farve and Rodgers beoing similar, I think Rodgers looked at Farve and learned what not to do. Tebow’s development depends on the coaches and his understanding of the system, give him another year to watch the pro game and learn Mccoy’s system and he will be better for it.

by David.Mandarich on Jul 30, 2011 9:41 AM MDT reply actions  

He does not need to sit and watch the pro game....

Rodgers credits Favre for teaching him the way to practice like a pro and how to lead. I dont think we have that problem with Tebow.

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

If Tebow has a year more on the bench learning... he'll be better. I think his ego could handle sucking for a year and learn from that as well... win win.

As far as Willis? Whatchu talking bout? He WILL be a Bronco and a good teacher/compliment to Moreno. Plus WMs role changed due to the talent around him. He’s good folks.

I wish we’d get some names in here like the rest of you do but face it, we’ve got a lot of rebuilding to do.
(thanks McDUMBASS for the years wasted -as predicted)

Patience!! EFX is thinking future not now.

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 9:53 AM MDT reply actions  

I meant "sucking for a year as the starter" (if Orton goes)

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm with you except for one thing....

What do we do in the 2012 draft? Do we draft a QB in the first round?

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jul 30, 2011 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tebow is a 1st round pick....how many other teams gave up on a first round pick after one season....not many!

THAT would kill Tebow’s development. he needs to learn by making mistakes!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Jul 30, 2011 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly. It will pretty naive to think that Tebow won’t struggle at all this year if he does get the reins, but he will also most likely have very good moments. Patience is very tough to have, but unless Tebow looks completely incompetent and utterly clueless, we can’t give up on him after one year.

by wiebrod on Jul 30, 2011 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

who said anything about giving up? He hasn't even gotten started really.

He needs to learn. Making mistakes is only one way to learn.

Watching.
Studying.
TIME.

These are proven methods as well.

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes studying is great!

that’s why right now I"m going out in excellent hot weather to study some more foreign languages and record some sports history for my portfolio. Historians and quarterbacks both glean much from study!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

foreign languages?

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes

I’m attempting to become proficient in Portuguese, Spanish and Italian, they’re not hard.

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by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yup exactly

If Tebow sits for another year then we can build a better team for him when Orton walks. Not a bad scenario at all

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-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

my 2nd choice but still works...

KO good go at any time before the trade deadline BTW… Injuries HAPPEN.

Also some teams have been patient and there are several teams still in QB need.
KO a Brown?
KO for Palmer? (heh heh)
still Miami?
and the Redskin’s QB is?
I cold list a few more.
Bills?
Raiders?

How long before McNabb melts down or Vick gets hurt as always (no VY will not save them)

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA

by Whidbey Bronco on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Idk why they would want to back up Vick with Young.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Jul 30, 2011 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Adversity is a

brutal taskmaster but it yields experience which is all Tebow really needs to be successful, perhaps one of the game’s greats, who knows?

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jul 30, 2011 10:22 AM MDT reply actions  

Here's my priority

McClain – Dude is the premier FB on the market and we need him badly
Barber – I love how physical he runs and punishes defenders, I think he would be a great back in our system
Brown – Little worried about the health, but if we can’t get Barber I really like him when he is healthy
McGhee – Too me is an older version of LenDale White, so I don’t know what the appeal is, he is a short yardage guy, but if LenDale is healthy, I think we are fine in that area.

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by Broncoman on Jul 30, 2011 10:28 AM MDT reply actions  

McClain is not only a premier FB, but I would sign him as our RB to split carry’s with Moreno. If we didn’t get Willis, sign McClain and go after another FB to actually play FB.

Seems like Barber has regressed, so he would be lower on my list. If Fox felt he had some in the tank, I would get behind him. He brings an attitude we are missing.

Brown would be a sweet pick up. His injury concerns would be helped by sharing the load, however he already was sharing the load in Miami. He would be the most expensive of all the RB’s left imo.

Willis has 2 good years left. He has more ability than White between the 20’s, and is very good near the GL. Reasonable contract to boot.

luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan

by chikndnnr on Jul 30, 2011 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

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