The O Line
by firstfan on Jul 31, 2011 6:45 PM MDT
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PrintClady Showing Old Form For much of training camp last year, it was easy to tell that left tackle Ryan Clady was not 100 percent back from offseason knee surgery. So smooth during his Pro Bowl season in 2009 — just his second year in the league — 2010 was difficult at times as he played while trying to regain full strength in the knee. Clady has looked far more comfortable and balanced this time around, showing the athleticism, the reach and the movement skills to deal with the pass rushers that come his way. He's been consistently strong in rush drills thus far.In my humble opinion, we are pretty well set at Center and Right Guard. Kuper could be headed to the Pro bowl and with Walton's mean streak I don't think we have to worry about a sophomore drop off. If Beadles continues to improve at the rate he did the second half of last year he will be very adequate at Left Guard. The early reports on the behemoth Franklin have me wondering "Harris? Harris who?" I am anxious to see more reports from Kaptain on Franklin. This little piece of information on Clady from the Denver Post via Horse Tracks is simply enough to get me orange and Blue kool aide drunk. The part about strong in the rush drills is particularly intoxicating. Maybe not Mike Clark 13-3 drunk, but certainly excited about the future. GO BRONCOS
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OL and blocking schemes looked much better at TC I was very encouraged
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you made my day! If Franklin can zone block, we will have a powerful mixture of zone and man blocking and will be very difficult to prepare for. Damn, I wish I could attend TC. I’ll look for comments.
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Franklin was a good run blocker at the U of Miami. I’ve never said otherwise. He excelled in this area.
It’s his pass blocking that will make us cry.
"Well at least we picked a good year to suck" said Pat Bowlen after countersigning Von Miller's rookie contract.
McG...
I was at training camp today I can can tell you Franklin more than held his own against Ayers, Doom, and Miller in 1-on-1 and 11-on-11 passing plays. One play that stoud out to me was late in practice in 11-on-11 we lined Miller up at LDE and Franklin stop him cold in his tracks. I think you should waite a little before you bash his pass blocking. FYI Franklin played last season with a torn meniscus.
by FootballguruCoreyS. on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Franklin had is feet in cement in some games back at UM. He got beat off the edge at times.
But he wasn’t playing with a very good o-line and at worst he was a mixed bag but you could always see the potential in him.
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it’s the wife, who looks a lot like Emma.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
If she's trying to be hot, how come she isn't wearing your old-school leather Broncos helmet?
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Jul 31, 2011 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll get her to put it on and snap a pic
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Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
Nope
I’m smokin!
I know 4 a fact, that all the things we have done so far, are relative!
By that I mean that,
Coaching is almost as important as time spent!
Perhaps the time spent to date, will B enough, with the coaching, to put our O line in the place that we need them 2 B!
That place is “hitting on all 5 cylinders.”
5 O-Linemen!
Don’t doubt this group!
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by metalman5050 on Jul 31, 2011 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Can the first preseason game get here fast enough?
I want to these guys play!
by tiderfootball09 on Jul 31, 2011 8:06 PM MDT reply actions
Maybe the O-line looks so good due to the talent at DT they are going up against?
Seriously I do think our O-line will be good and much improved but I am concerned about the talent level of our DTs right now.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
Clady and Franklin don't see much action against DTs
In a standard 4-3, it is pretty rare to line one of you DTs up over either OT.
Ding Dong the lockout's dead
Improved across the line...
LT Clady back to form
LG Beadles, one full season under his belt
C Walton, same
RG Kuper, started with an injury and played better late in the season
RT Franklin I wanna say hes an improvement just because of Harris injury struggles, but hes a rookie so it remains to be seen
Im lovin what our OL is becoming, for damn sure…
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by Broncos808 on Jul 31, 2011 11:51 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Im actually pretty concerned with the O-line.
I dont trust Walton and Beadles, but Especially Walton. He improved but he started off horrendous. I thought we would at least get some depth across the line but i guess not. Not happy that Hockstein is still around either.
CB is another need. Champ Goodman and Squid are great starters in the 3WR set. Our lack of depth is concerning and i don’t no why nobody is talking about this. Perrish Cox could very likely get suspended after all. If you doubt this read the report, its highly unlikely he gets away with nothing. Champ and Goodman are older guys who can get hurt.
What i like is that we have a lot of “deep end” depth at multiple positions, practice squad guys. RB’s, WR’s, TE’s and CB’s have guys that i like on the “deep end”.
Very encouraging report
Just about every offensive lineman in the NFL plays better in his second year than in his first. Many don’t play at all as rookies.
Keeping my fingers crossed that all 5 guys stay healthy – we have no depth at OL.
Franklin came late in his life to football. He is still learning the game. He also was hampered by injury during his senior year at UM. I’ve gone from skeptical about Franklin, to cautiously optimistic.
Ding Dong the lockout's dead
Was the quote from a DP writer, or were they quoting someone else?
That is good to hear. As DE stated mentioned above me, it’s not normal for non-first-round OL to start in their first year. It’s extremely rare for a center to start in his first year, especially a third-rounder.
Also, Beadles, Walton and Kuper sound like they formed something of a street gang over their offseason. Reports are that they’ve really bonded and practiced together as a unit all offseason. I have no doubt the middle of our line will be much better this year. And I think Franklin will probably do fine on the end. Still, it wouldn’t be a surprise to having some growing pains on the right side. Harris was a very good pass blocker and an underrated run blocker.
I think Bannan isn't coming back, Nate Irving will start at MLB and Tim Tebow starts at QB. Oh, and VonDoom should combine for 20-25 sacks.
The writing style is reminiscent of Jeff Legwold.
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O Line Backups
After watching a lot of film on Clady, Beadles, Walton and Kuper, I think the starting O line with probably Franklin is in very good shape. If these guys stay healthy they can play with any defense in the division, no problem. I like this group a lot more than most fans.
My issues are with the backups. It shouldn’t be that hard to improve on Stanley Daniels and Russ Hochstein. If an O Line starter is injured even for a game or two, whichever one of these guys fills in weakens the O Line considerably.
I read a lot of comments about Beadles at LG being marginal or not fit at the tackle spot. That’s a lot of BS based on what I saw with him when I reviewed nearly every play in almost every game last year. He’s a very good starter. ProBowl no, but solid week in and week out, yes. Versatile, yes. Smart, yes. Improving constantly, yes. Sturdy, seems to be. Can handle the new offensive system, high probability of adapting the fastest. How many O Line guys become starters in their first NFL season, much less start at two very different positions, and for little more than a million bucks a year. Someone even said Beadles was the reason the Broncos couldn’t run the ball very well. Again total BS.
So I’m not worried about the O-Line. Every time I see Orlando Franklin, he looks like he has a mean stick up his ass. I don’t know what his momma did to him, but whatever it was it looks like it will work out fine for the Broncos. I don’t know if he’ll wind up a Pro Bowl tackle but he’ll be the ugliest nastiest looking guy in Bronco pictures for several years to come. Until I see him play at least 5 or 6 pro games, I won’t have an opinion on far he can go, but if looks could stop a defense, every defender on the opposing team would just fall over and wait for someone to help them up and shield their eyes.
I think all the O Line guys should line up in front a mirror and take Franklin mean ass look lessons. If they can get that down, that alone would give the Broncos a couple of more wins next season.
I think the fans should worry more about Hochstein and Daniels than the starting five. I just don’t see anyone who can step in and keep the rushers out of the backfield if there is an injury to an O Line starter. If a team wants to win consistently, the backups are big keys.
Harris to re-sign
Recent news had us declining to offer him, which also matched comments by Elway, but it seems they’re going to offer today (Tue., 8-2).
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18598023
Opinions may vary but most of us see this as good news. Harris provides a level of depth — particularly at LT — that we haven’t had in a long time. I’d love to see Harris become a utility lineman because I believe that he could backup several OL positions. This might help with his injury problems, too, since he wouldn’t suffering as much wear and tear.
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