Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 8/17/11
by John Bena on Aug 17, 2011 7:11 AM MDT
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NFL.com Blogs " Blog Archive Updated cap space for all 32 teams "
With three weeks until the 2011 season officially kicks off, there are still plenty of personnel moves to be made. According to league sources, most teams still have plenty of money to spend before reaching their salary cap limitations. In fact, only the St. Lous Rams are currently over the cap total.
Broncos' stadium renamed Sports Authority Field - The Denver Post
To those who never did warm to the Broncos' home stadium as Invesco Field at Mile High, raise those $8 plastic cups of beer.
Broncos cut running back LenDale White, a former Denver-area high school star - The Denver Post
LenDale White's hopes and dreams of playing for his hometown NFL team evaporated Tuesday when the Broncos released the 26-year-old running back.
Injuries to Ty Warren, Marcus Thomas leave big dents in Denver Broncos' defensive line - The Denver Post
Every year, or so it seems, the Broncos deliver the same brave message. Injuries are a part of football, they say. One guy goes down, they state without complaint, the next guy has to step up.
Paige: Denver Broncos' Ty Warren, Marcus Thomas, LenDale White can't get right kind of break - The Denver Post
Tough tear. Tough strain. Tough cut. Tough luck. Tough breaks for Broncos and the Broncos.
Miami Hurricanes booster put bounty on Florida's Tim Tebow - The Denver Post
Shapiro also claimed he put out bounties on specific players, including former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, and paid for nightclub outings, sex parties, restaurant meals and in one case, an abortion for a woman impregnated by a player. One former Miami player, running back Tyrone Moss, told Yahoo Sports he accepted $1,000 from Shapiro around the time he was entering college.
Denver Broncos' offense focuses on short-yardage situations at training camp - The Denver Post
Denver coaches decided to work on short-yardage and goal-line situations — and the play calls mostly went run, run, run. This just a few days after the Broncos called a fade pass on first-and-goal in the preseason opener at Dallas last week.
Analysis: Running back LenDale White didn't fit the Broncos' future - The Denver Post
That's why the Broncos cut veteran running back LenDale White on Tuesday. They have Willis McGahee (four-year contract) at White's position, and White couldn't stay on the field because of injuries.
Broncos claim Jacksonville LB Alvin Bowen | First-and-Orange — Denver Broncos news, stats, analysis — The Denver Post
The Broncos, who have the No. 2 spot on the waiver wire, were awarded the claim. Bowen, 27, appeared in two games for Jacksonville last year. He is 6-1, 222 pounds and played his college ball at Iowa State.
NFL.com news: Reese says comments weren't playoff guarantee for Giants
While New York Giants general manager Jerry Reese backpedaled a bit Tuesday on his claim that the Giants would make the playoffs in 2011, quarterback Eli Manning was all confidence when discussing where he ranks among his NFL peers.
NFL.com news: Crowder hammers Henne, questions Dolphins QB's abilities
Just one week into a very tenuous retirement, Channing Crowder is talking comeback. He's also taking some shots at his former quarterback.
NFL.com news: Browns QB McCoy tapped Favre for West Coast knowledge
But before he knew it, McCoy was on a plane flying to Mississippi to meet with Favre, who picked him up at the airport, then spent several days schooling the young quarterback on the intricacies of the West Coast offense, something the three-time NFL MVP mastered during 20 seasons.
NFL.com news: Report: Turner breaks leg; McKnight might have concussion
Citing a league source, the New York Daily News reported Tuesday that backup center Rob Turner suffered a broken leg in Monday night's game and is scheduled to undergo surgery. The team also lost reserve running back Joe McKnight, who's believed to have suffered a concussion.
NFL.com news: Ravens chose Harbaugh over Ryan to avoid schism on team
"From a chemistry standpoint ... we really liked John and we thought it was going to be tougher for Rex to bring the whole team together after him spending 10 years on one side of the ball that was the dominant side of the ball," Bisciotti told season-ticket holders Tuesday evening in an hourlong conference call.
Generating interest: 5-6 teams make offer to Maybin | National Football Post
Cut by the Bills on Monday, free agent linebacker and 2009 first-round draft pick Aaron Maybin is drawing some interest on the open market. Per Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, the New York Jets have made a one-year offer to the 23-year-old linebacker.
A Titanic negotiation | National Football Post
There are over 2800 NFL players presently under contract and in training camps – a number that will be reduced by roughly 900 within a couple of weeks. Then there is one player who is under contract but not in training camp: Chris Johnson of the Tennessee Titans.
Carolina's QB competition heats up | National Football Post
In the preseason, fans are always interested in the rookies and some of the younger players who look like they may become starters once the season gets under way. With that in mind, I was able to view the Bills-Bears game and the Panthers-Giants game from this past weekend. All four teams have a number of young players who could become full-time players this season.
Seahawks tab Atari Bigby to provide veteran help | National Football Post
Seattle Seahawks general manager John Schneider went looking for some veteran experience at safety and found a player he’s quite familiar with.
Mike Martz adds some quarterback drama to Bears camp | National Football Post
Mike Martz clearly wasn’t smitten with Caleb Hanie last season and now the Chicago Bears offensive coordinator has injected at least a little drama into the backup quarterback position.
Could the 'Skins have the top safety combo in the NFL? | National Football Post
If Redskins safeties LaRon Landry and O.J. Atogwe can get healthy and still prep for the regular season, Washington might just have one of the best combos in the NFL.
NFL postpones Tuesday's supplemental draft; no new date - NFL - SI.com
The NFL supplemental draft originally scheduled for Wednesday has been postponed.
Jim Harbaugh: Alex Smith creating 'separation' in 49ers' QB race - NFL - SI.com
Two superb practices and Alex Smith has taken a step forward in the competition with rookie Colin Kaepernick for San Francisco's starting quarterback job.
Bengals part ways with oft-injured DT Tank Johnson - NFL - SI.com
The Bengals have released defensive tackle Tank Johnson, who missed nine games last season with a knee injury.
Tony Moeaki expected to make a big impact for Chiefs - Peter King - SI.com
Five thoughts looking back at my day with the Chiefs:
Cincinnati Bengals prove that bad history can repeat itself - Paul Daugherty - SI.com
From the comfort of my uneasy chair Friday, I watched the past rewind. I never thought I'd see a return of the sort of stricken football I witnessed throughout the Lost Decade of the 1990s, as a sad hack covering the Bengals. Not even in Cincinnati, home office for stricken football. But, dear God, there it was:
Nick Fairley of Detroit Lions loses cast, now in walking boot - ESPN
Detroit rookie defensive lineman Nick Fairley is making progress as he recovers from surgery on his left foot.
Ike Taylor of Pittsburgh Steelers has surgery on broken thumb - ESPN
Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor underwent surgery on Tuesday to repair his broken left thumb.
Giving Pryor a pass shields NCAA, OSU - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
It isn’t the NFL’s job to clean up the NCAA’s vast problems in college football. And the NFL isn’t a safe house for people who want to hide from those troubles. If you understand that, you understand how important it is for the NFL to turn down Terrelle Pryor’s bid to be part of the league’s supplemental draft.
Gore gears up for start of the season with 49ers - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Running back Frank Gore(notes) is hoping to get a new long-term deal from the San Francisco 49ers before the season opener.
Dreamy additions have Eagles thinking big - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Now that he has taken his talents to South Philly, star cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha(notes) – the prize of the fast and furious, post-lockout NFL free-agent class of 2011 – has his first shutdown assignment: attempting to contain the viral hype preceding the Philadelphia Eagles’ Super Bowl-or-bust season.
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Receivers should be doing the same thing...
to handle those one hoppers.
Could you imagine the Orton crowd....
…if Tebow went 2 for 6 and Orton went 6 for 7?
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Sounds like
Willis McGahee was involved with this Shapiro fella as well.
You can be dumb... that's ok! There are many dumb people.
You can be an a$$hole... that's ok! There are many of these as well.
Unfortunately you cannot be both...
Ok... prove me wrong.
It was legitimate with McGahee.
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!
What the heck is
putting out a bounty?
Shapiro also claimed he put out bounties on specific players, including former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
That doesnt make sense in the context of the article...
Did you read it? It sounds like they are referring to a bounty like it is a a good thing. Strange, I don’t get it.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Aug 17, 2011 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
never mind
I was reading the article wrong, I get it now.
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Aug 17, 2011 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Hurt Tebow...
Get Paid…
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ok, I get it now
What a scumbag!
"I get sick when I hear athletes say I’m not a role model" "Yes you are. You’re just not a very good one." -Tim Tebow
by MTBroncosFan on Aug 17, 2011 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Scumbag is correct
He is currently in jail for 20 years for a $930,000,000 ponzi scheme because he is a con man.
I wouldn’t take anything he says too seriously or as any sort of truth. The guy is a convicted criminal.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
It doesn't look like he ls lying...
Thousands of pages of legal documents, financial records, pictures, and corroborating witness statements provided to authorities say that U of M is screwed. I doubt there will be any ramifications for former playas, however.
Indeed a complete POS.
UM is pretty screwed, but he is a liar, con man and thief. Certainly not someone to be trusted. Nor are his cooked book.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
In college football
the program is always punished not the former players.
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
There are multiple people that have confirmed many parts of his story. The question is why did someone like this have so much influence on UM athletics. The rest of the U just turned their heads the other way because money was coming in.
by DieselDan on Aug 17, 2011 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Proof is on his side
Tons of it. Sorry, but your Hurricanes are going to go down harder than any college football team in recent memory has…
Maybe. Certainly will be loss of scholarships and post season play.
The accuser doesn’t have proof on his side, but UM is not innocent in this.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
Did you read the whole article though? There’s thousands of receipts, phone calls, witnesses, etc etc. It’s VERY heavily documented. Some of the allegations will be not provable, but there will certainly be more things than, say, USC’s Reggie Bush saga. This makes the USC and OSU stuff look like accusations of too much stretching.
yep. As I said, loss of scholarships and no post season play. Won’t guess how many or how long.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
McG...
Do you have any belief at this time that the dreaded “death penalty” could be served up? TCU had it, but there was not much doubt that the school absolutely knew what was going on in that case…….IMO, the whole thing hangs on how much knowledge can be PROVEN how far up the line of authority at Miami. What do you think?
SMU, and no they wont. It had more of an impact than the NCAA had intended. IMO
luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan
Here's some visual evidence
of a bounty involving everybody’s favorite a-hole: Buddy Ryan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSroPtp4jTI
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't count out the Brownies
Colt McCoy is the wait for it REAL McCoy! Anyway, I hope the Steelers don’t make the playoffs out of the AFC North, Baltimore and Cleveland can if they earn it
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Shapiro also claimed he put out bounties on specific players, including former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, and paid for nightclub outings, sex parties, restaurant meals and in one case, an abortion for a woman impregnated by a player.
Classy guy.
"That's a white myth, Ken. Like Larry Bird or Colorado."
Orton non-trade
shows you how misleading reports can be even if salted by the teams themselves. Based on article in Tracks, Miami is much closer to the salary cap than Denver, but reports were that Miami was resisting the trade because it expected Denver to have to cut Orton due to salary cap concerns. Now reports are that Henne has the full confidence of the players still on the team despite former player ripping Henne and some Miami fans revolting. Of course, some Denver fans (not me) were ripping Orton too. Yet, the media was touting this as a trade that had to be made.
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 17, 2011 9:33 AM MDT reply actions
Henne threw two horrible INTs in their preseason game. He is also really struggling at practice. Miami, San Fran, Washington, Seattle and Cincy are looking like the clear frontrunners in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
better them than us
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Why would anyone want to live in Oakland?
Maybe.
Depends on how we do. If we’re 6-10, losing games in December and drafting 8th overall, I’ll disagree with you.
Then it would be better for them than us to be picking a guy like Luck or Barkley while we use our pick on some DB or MLB. Or way overdraft a QB like Minnesota just did.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
When it comes to business in football, truth is very relative. At the time of Orton’s proposed trade it could have been absolutely true that the team wanted to trade Orton. I believe to this day that the Broncos wanted to trade Orton and if not for Miami’s unwillingness to pay Orton a trade would have happened. That’s what I understand to be “truth”.
I also believe that Orton wasn’t about to take lesser money on a potentially worse team just because he wasn’t “wanted” in Denver. Kyle Orton doesn’t need these fans to love him. Truth is, he probably doesn’t care one bit about this state or these fans. And why should he? He’s a professional. He wants to make his money, get his stats, and be in a position when his FA comes up to make the kind of money he obviously thinks he deserves.
Kyle Orton thinks Kyle Orton is the shit. And he wants to get paid like it. The situation tells me that Denver was just hoping Miami was willing to pay him that kind of money. When they weren’t, well, the truth changed.
Nobody really knows what goes on behind closed doors at Dove Valley or in Miami. But when a team doesn’t get what they initially wanted the have to go all in with what they’ve got. During the Orton trade talks Miami may have been gearing up to release Henne, but now that those talks are cold they have to change their tune completely. That doesn’t mean they were lying to us in the beginning, nor that they are lying to us now. The facts of the situation have changed. There is no way that an organization starts a QB and then attempt to take away his credibility, regardless of what has happened in the past. Henne’s teammates will rally around him because that is what teammates do… just like if he were traded to some other team they would rally around their new guy.
I personally wouldn’t be so cynical to say the reports are mis-leading, just that the situation changed.
GB2
Tulogit to quit.
by BroncoPH on Aug 17, 2011 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
BroncoPH, you missed the point
I don’t disagree with anything you said. The point was that Miami was considered to be betting that Denver would have to cut Orton if a trade had to be worked out and that was a major reason why Miami resisted the trade. Yet, we now learn that Miami is only about $4M under the cap and Denver is a reported $20+M under the cap. So how credible was the report that Miami was banking on Orton being cut? Even if the salaries were as reported earlier when the trade was a hot rumor (Denver $6-9M over expected cap), surely GMs should be able to figure out that cap jugglers, like Xanders, would be able to work something out. That is why I think the reports that Miami was holding up on the trade because of Denver’s salary cap was misleading. Now, suddenly Miami is Henne friendly despite his performance. I’m not buying that either.
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 17, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
Eh
I don’t think many of us actually believed those rumors right..? The explanation I’d always heard was that Miami wanted to negotiate with Orton first… And what it came down to was that Orton bet on himself – that he’d get a better offer as a free agent next summer than he was getting from Miami. Orton said no to Miami’s extension, so Miami said no to the deal. Pretty simple actually, and it does make some semblance of sense.
by scooter17 on Aug 17, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
True
All that was reported. But also repeatedly reported was that Miami was allegedly calling Denver’s bluff on trade compensation because of the salary cap. I just think its funny that Miami reportedly is now only $4M under the cap and Denver reportedly is over $20M under the cap and still has Orton. So the rumor about the bluff was misleading.
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 17, 2011 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
And why do you think
Miami wouldn’t pony up the dough for Orton? I’d venture a guess that they realize Orton isn’t worth that kind of money, and no way were we getting a first or second rounder for Orton. Other teams aren’t as inept as we’d all like them to be. He was clearly on the trading block, so how some of these folks can feel so secure that EFX has deemed him “the answer” is beyond me. Maybe “the answer for now”. My question is why, up to this point, hasn’t Orton been offered a long term deal by the Broncos. Here’s another question. Why is it a non issue that our starting quarterback was up for trade with coach Fox, but when it was McD and Cutler, the topic was plastered all over this place for weeks straight.
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This just won't die will it?
Miami wouldn’t pony up the dough for Orton? I’d venture a guess that they realize Orton isn’t worth that kind of money, and no way were we getting a first or second rounder for Orton. Other teams aren’t as inept as we’d all like them to be. He was clearly on the trading block, so how some of these folks can feel so secure that EFX has deemed him "the answer" is beyond me.
Because right now, he is the best answer for a team that wants to win. Excitement does not matter. Carrying a team does not matter. Rallying the team does not matter. That is not how you win in the NFL. Yes it brings in fans but so do the playoffs and you can get to the playoffs without the “intangibles”. It may be that Ortons (the Broncos) poor third down and redzone performance has lowered his value. Whatever happened, it appears the Broncos listened and Orton handled it like a pro.
My question is why, up to this point, hasn’t Orton been offered a long term deal by the Broncos.
The Broncos have two veteran QB’s with one year left and a 2nd year player with four years left. It seems likely to me that they are looking to Tebow to be the future QB and they will have a lot of options when it comes to the back ups. No need to jump into any long term commitments.
Here’s another question. Why is it a non issue that our starting quarterback was up for trade with coach Fox, but when it was McD and Cutler, the topic was plastered all over this place for weeks straight.
Cutler cried and stomped his feet. Orton said “You want me, you gotta pay”, then went to work. Small wonder Cutler is a bigger story.
My question is. Why do so many celebrate the changes this team has made to be better and doubt that our very capable veteran QB can take advantage of those improvements??
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Apparently Dolye at CBS Sports trashes Tebow...
…watching ESPN 1st and 10 this morning, they were debating a piece by Doyle about Tebow and his faith. Doyle said it was his perception that Tebow felt his faith in God made Tebow fell a starting QB job in the NFL was his right because of God. Doyle went on to call Tebow blasphemous for believing this.
Sorry, a quick look and I couldn’t find Doyle’s article…but it must exist as it was discussed and quotes were put up on ESPN.
Where do I start with this absolute piece of trash. Let me say that I am not religious so I am not attacking from that perspective. But I would dare Doyle to say that same thing about a Jew or Muslim player. He wouldn’t dare. This was a shot at Christians, and if I was one, I would be royally pissed.
Second, Tebow’s work ethic is beyond question. Although many Christians (and those of other faiths) believe God does have a plan for them, Tebow still works his butt off. He isn’t expecting anything to just be handed to him. Sure he thought he was the starter and Orton was going to get traded, we all thought that. Can’t blame a guy for taking a big breath about the new reality. But he is still out there working hard.
Last, it shouldn’t matter if you are rooting for Orton or Tebow, this was pure trash journalism.
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Well I found the article...
…it was from August 6th…..so never mind. This has probably already been discussed here. Not sure why ESPN team is just now covering it. Maybe they need to have a daily Tebow story.
http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/story/15406131/unbelievable-tebow-believes-faith-equates-to-starting-in-nfl
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I heard the writer on the radio talking about this article
To say it made my wife’s blood boil would be an understatement.
He misstates the beliefs of most Christians to the point of making a (probably unknowing) bigoted statement. Mainstream Christian’s “trust in God” is not a belief that they will get what they want, it’s a belief that God will get them through difficulties. It’s a trust that when things aren’t going the way the believer wants them to, that there may be a great reason. (There are different nuances between denominations on this.)
“Trust in God” for most Christians does NOT mean that the “true believer” gets what they want. (Again, for most mainstream Christians.) The writer twists this to…
‘…I’m paraphrasing here, “I’ll be a starter in this league because God loves me that much.” …’
I wish the writer had just stuck to writing about Tebow’s mechanics and not write on something he knows so little about.
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by Alan_Smithee on Aug 17, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
That's true
I want what I want but if I don’t get it, I’m still faithful to my beliefs. Anyone can twist and distort if they want.
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Twist and distort? No kidding.
I have been told I must have many wives, I want to be God, and that I don;t believe in Christ by people that not only don’t know me, but don’t know my religion. Guess what? Doesn’t change how I feel, just kind of amusing, really….. unless they use their misconstrued beliefs to try justify harm. It seems to be true regardless of whether we are talking race relations, politics, religion or how to cook spaghetti. This is one reason it is often better for me to listen a lot and speak less….or as I am presently here in MHR, read a lot and comment in non-committal tones.
So you're Mormon as well?
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Just the
concerns you were bringing up, so Mormonish!
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 18, 2011 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
although
:D in text means sarcasm, right?
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 18, 2011 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmmm
This may be a key to my communication issues.
I use :D to be very happy
:) happy
;) you know what I mean
:O What?
:p just messin with you
/sarcasm sarcasm ( I forget to do this a lot )
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Just an example of the absolute garbage that comes from CBS Sports. Not one of them has any type of journalistic merit. They spew absolute crap day after day.
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by TheMorseFile on Aug 17, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Doyel is a clown
And that article is a complete embarrassment to journalism, let alone sports writing.
This has and will happen a lot. A relative no-name, like Doyle or Hodge, will say something outlandish about Tebow. Then everyone will start talking about the no-name (both pro and con).
All they are trying to do is get attention by leveraging Tebow’s popularity. The more you respond, the more they get what they really want. So ignore them.
by McJay on Aug 17, 2011 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well said
Tebow is the best thing to happen to these guys. They will ride his coattails until he fails and claim they knew it all along…or until he succeeds and then they will claim they always wanted him to prove them wrong and be his biggest fans.
They just have to be hysterical enough to get heard in the first place.
GB2
Tulogit to quit.
by BroncoPH on Aug 17, 2011 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope the center
can do what my 5-year-old nephew can do when we play football when I’m the all-time quarterback. Good gosh. That is an epic pic of Fox by the way, he looks like Mr. Roarke from Fantasy Island 
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 12:05 PM MDT reply actions
I wish I had some in stock
it is tight!
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks!
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions
still hoping for orton trade
after watching the game against dallas the other night, it reaffirmed my thoughts on the broncos. only had one series but orton is once again miserable in the end zone. on one of his plays that broke down, he had a chance to run it in from about the 4 and decided to throw it away. also, i thought the run defense would be better. typically in preseason a defense is further along than an offense. also, the running by mcgahee and johnson holds promise, moreno looks like the 3rd best there. and finally, i was excited to see tebow and quinn lead the offense. my point in trading orton is let the other 2 qb’s play this year. if they don’t get the job done we’re in the running next year for luck from stanford. since we’re in rebuilding mode i don’t see how orton fits into our long term.
I would sign off on Orton leaving
IF we can get Soliai or K. Langford in return from the Fins and if we have Brady Quinn be the starter until Tebow is ready. Seriously, how good did BQ look against the Cowboys!
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 17, 2011 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Dude...big NO on Brady Quinn starting...it was one game...
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Running it in
If it was the regular season, I’d be right there with you saying that Orton should have tried to power that one in. However, nothing good comes from a QB risking a big shot trying to run the ball into the endzone during the preseason. He probably could have scored, but not without taking a big hit.
LOL. Orton power it in?
Guess how many rushing TDs Orton has in this 29 games as a Bronco? If you guessed ZERO, you are correct. You want to know why Orton doesn’t do as well in the red zone as he does between the 20s… this is a good place to start.
To my surprise, Orton had 98 rushing yards in 2010 with a ypc of 4.5. He also had three lost fumbles so that wasn’t something for the resume. Orton’s career ypc is 2.6, which is quite awful.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
I’d agree that he needs to be more willing to do so in the regular season. I refuse to bash him for not doing it in a meaningless preseason game. Tebow taking the big shot last year to get his first preseason TD against Cinci wasn’t very smart either. I understood why he did it, but you don’t want your QBs taking big hits in games that don’t count.
by Tazzik on Aug 18, 2011 6:23 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's all about leadership
orton could have set the tone for the other players, could have proved he has the mettle to lead this team. instead, he took the safe route, throw it away. i know it was a different situation entirely but i look back to the super bowl and elway’s famous helicopter run in the game. i knew right then that we would win the super bowl. that’s all i’m asking for, leadership. those guys must know that you’ll go into battle for them. that’s why i root for tebow, he’s going to give every effort. is he a polished passer, no way. seem to remember another leader of young men that lined up a couple times under guard….thanks #7 for leaving it all on the field!
As I have said golfdoc...if you want ONE of our QB's on the roster to make a play, who you going to choose.....probably know my answer!
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exagerate much?
Elway lined up behind guard once. Very memorable but really don’t need to embellish on it.
Kyle Orton’s finger was fractured so badly the bone stuck out of the skin. On his throwing hand. He played with a glove on and his passes were still tight spirals.
Kyle Orton came back in to LEAD this team (leadership?) when it was clear Chris Simms could not. He had a bum ankle and still had a glove on his throwing hand.
Kyle Orton is a designated team leader voted for by his team mates.
Kyle Orton is a Labor Union Representative, voted for by his team mates.
Can we just stop with the Kyle isn’t a leader crap?
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Please...dont put ORTON and POWER in the same sentence....made me throw up in my mouth!
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Dude
Kyle Orton has a powerful arm
Orton has a powerful brain
Your a coach. You should be able to be more balanced. I understand you don’t like him. But you just throw “stuff” out all the time.
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In my dreams, we trade Orton to San Fran for their 2012 2nd round pick.
Those are dreams and not based in reality. In my reality, I foresee Orton as our starting QB in a season we go 6-10.
Kyle Orton + red zone = FG
It's easy to see you have a problem with Orton.
And I am OK with that. But what do you feel our record would be with Tebow as #1? Better, or worse?
He's our starting QB until he isn't.
I see 6-10 - 8-8 either way.
Just far too many holes in that run defense. It will be good to build on though. Just won’t be our year this year.
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missing the point
i don’t see it much different than orton. my whole thing is we are rebuilding, orton isn’t the long term solution. i would rather play tebow and quinn to see if they are the solution, if not we will have a good chance at luck from stanford next year. orton only leads us to mediocracy, the others have a chance to elevate us back to playoff teams.
THIS. Its not Orton vs Tebow (although I think Tebow will be great) its just Orton is not our long term guy.
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We have NO chance for Luck
We don’t need Luck. Geez! For one thing a single year of play is not enough to evaluate Tebow. Even if Tebow stinks up the field in every game it does not mean he won’t learn. You don’t just keep taking chances on the next phenom out of college till you get a good one. That ignores the rest of the team and is a guarenteed recipe for disaster and losing seasons.
I see it all the time and I agree with this sentiment.
It ain’t madden or fantasy football. You can’t just keep trading and drafting players. You have to build a team which means getting to know the guys you play with. Understanding tendencies and learning how to play together.
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Around the same.....Tebow will make mistakes, but win us games also...Kyle will be Kyle...as my wise friend said on Orton; "Hes just so....AVERAGE."
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!
Sorry you think at 28 he can no longer improve. He still does.
“Orton has bulked up to 230 pounds, 12 more than his previous playing weight.”
He's our starting QB until he isn't.
why
will Orton and Loyd regress this year?
Lately it occurs to me,
What a long strange trip it's been. Jerry Garcia
McD > McCoy.
Though the Orton supporters will say it is because we will run the ball more (which may be true but we weren’t as pass happy as many believe—we ran a fair amount just not very well early in the year last year).
Orton can’t get much worse in the 4th Q though so there is hope for improvement there.
