Denver Broncos Quarterback Controversy: Kyle Orton, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn

it is frustrating and the only way to rectify it is for the MSM to quit their stupid speculation. ESPN isn’t all about reporting facts, which is sad. It would also be nice for fans to act like fans and that’s all I’ve got to say about it

You must be an Orton guy cause you put his picture on your post… booo to you ;oP

because I’m tired of hearing about it. I stop by here and there to read some news but that’s it.

so it should be Orton that starts and from what I’ve heard, read and seen he has been the best quarterback in camp which means he should start. Oh and it also means I can wear my orange #8 jersey at least once this year. I’m a fan of the Broncos sure I probably like some players better than others but I just want them to win!

Give that poor kid some reps with the First Team – lets see what he’s got.

And so it was, that a post that started out decrying that we only ever discuss the QB situation ended up only discussing said QB situation.

I have come to the point, where I hope Tebow is traded, so that we can again concentrate on the Denver Broncos.

Sure, Orton has never started 16 games in an NFL season in his career – but given that 3 of those years he was a backup for at least part of the year, and he only missed 1 game in 2 other years… and one could make the argument that he only missed 3 games last season because of the “Tebow Thing”… Orton’s health may be a concern, but it’s not THAT big of one. In any case, having 2 capable backups pretty much dismisses any concerns over Orton’s injuries.
All of that to say – the “Orton misses games” stat sounds bad, but it isn’t so bad when you look at it all in context.

If our Oline plays a little more consistently this year and we actually run the ball once in a while, Orton has a good chance of staying healthy. Even though I’m eager to see Tebow, I hope Orton is the starter for the entire year – because with what we have, it’s not hard to see a scenario where we could make the playoffs. You just never know.

…on an opinion board:

“As if we know better than John Fox what is best for this team”

What is the point of this board if one just uses that as an argument? We may as well just post the facts here and nothing else. But then you go on and justify why Orton should start and Tebow should not. It’s a back handed way of invalidating anybody that doesn’t agree with you since your opinion matches Fox on this one.

Even though my opinion doesn’t matter since it doesn’t match Fox, I will tell you anyways. I want Tebow to start. The reason is because I just don’t think Orton is that good. I believe Tim Lynch summed it quite well last year with a series of posts. It doesn’t mean I believe Tebow is the answer. As a matter of fact, I suspect he isn’t the answer. But if I am right on Orton and he is mediocre this year and we do not bring him back. Then it is likely that Tebow will start next year. Tebow may show no progress at all and be labeled a non NFL QB. I don’t think we are a playoff team this year, so I don’t want to wait another year to see if Tebow works out. I want to know this year if he shows enough promise to build around him or if we need to begin to look for another QB.

Orton is your best quarterback. End of debate. He always had been, and out of the three options surrounding the “controversy”, he always will be.

Last time I was here, the majority was insistent that Tim Tebow was the starter, because I was genuinely curious and Broncos fans are choc full of FB know-how. Simply put, the FO finally admitted that they’ve known better the whole time, and that Tebow didn’t have that great a shot at the starting job, because he’s not physically there. I’m not sure if Elway even thinks Tebow will EVER be there. And I agree with him, if that’s the case.

I think you were making a mistake in trying to trade Orton, and I’m glad for the Broncos sake that it didn’t go down. I could see Brady Quinn fighting his way to a starting spot in the NFL eventually, I just don’t see it with Tebow.

Go on. Enlighten me of my ignorance. I deserve it. /hanging head in shame

I agree that you don’t need a great quarterback to win, but on offense there are limited positions in which one can lead. Like, for instance, we don’t see the offensive line as a usual leadership position, except for center…one really can’t lead from the runningback or wide receiver positions either. The true leader on offense is the quarterback which is why he is so important. Ben Roethlisberger isn’t a great quarterback, but because he is a leader, he is probably in the top ten, and his team wins many games.

Leadership is something that Tebow has and Orton is a little shaky on. However, Orton has better skills so far in his career and has proven that he can play in the NFL and win games (although not consistently). Why not give Orton a chance with a better defense and a better running game?

Classic and a good read.

But he needs to be on a short leash, eventhough it won’t be needed. Tebow Time will come patience is key.

…that despite my wanting for Tebow since he seems like the ultimate gamble (and I am a gambler) the god of upside and downside to start. I really wanted the Broncos to go all in. seemed like the right time since we were at our worst last year. I feel that EFX are probable making the smart decision. I am just not sure if it will end up being the right decision. Time will tell.

a post making a plea for less insanity in the “QB controversy” phenomenon results in about 10-20 % less insanity in the comments (IMO) ……well, its progress I guess. :)

It would be nice to see BQ become the NFL comeback player of the year and I’m fine with letting Tebow continue to develop so he doesn’t flame out like alot of other young QB’s that were rushed into action too soon.

if Pope Benedict XVI is our signal-caller and we win games, FANTASTIC!

Another QB post?

Sickening

We will never truly know what goes on in the locker room, but what all the media is telling us is that “the locker room supports Orton”. I suppose that means that “the locker room does NOT support Tebow”, right? If this is the case, then is there any hope for Tebow to ever take over this team? Sounds like EFX have made up their minds. Hope that works out for you, fellas.

Congrats Orton supports. You now have your franchise quarterback. Go buy your #8 jerseys, if you can find one.

Isn’t this pretty simple?

Orton is the best QB on the team.. if Tebow wasn’t named Tebow people wouldn’t care. Quinn has shown that he can handle the job so far in preseason.

So Tebow can be our Brad Smith .. and that’s not a bad thing at all.

Orton between the twenties and Tebow in the red zone and short yardage sounds pretty darn good to me.

We’ll see if Orton can finally pull his head out of his ass and wins us some games. We BETTER beat the Raiders!

Coach decided it was Orton, and that’s good enough for me.

I have to agree Troy, well said. I have been a supporter of throwing the kid out on the field this year, but I have realized that is both not the right move at this point, and just a’int gonna happen. I think we are going to be better than I thought we would all summer, and Orton is a good enough QB that if there is a solid running game and defense, he can get a team to the playoffs, so lets go for it. I am still a staunch believer in Tebow, and for the life of me can’t understand what some of y’all expect from him already, but I was wrong in thinking he should be out there this year. I am looking much more forward to our defense and running game, but Orton, as boring as I find him, is the QB on this roster that has the best chance of guiding this team to the playoffs, so lets do this.

Not trying to start anything, but man, Sean defends KO like a momma grizzly protecting her cub!

His recent injury history has me a bit concerned….not in the missed games category, but it seems like his play markedly declines once said injury occurs. You can say that about alot of players and I appreciate KO’s want to be out there…but if he goes down I hope the coaches just sit him down and make him recover.

Supposedly Orton was injured in the KC game last year (ribs). The KC game and the AZ game the next week were among his worst games (along with the Raiders game).

After Orton was roughed up in the Baltimore game in 09 he wasn’t the same quarterback, and the Washington game (when it looked like he was getting better) the ankle injury pretty much rendered him spotty for the rest of the year.

In 08 with the Bears Orton had ankle problems later in the year and his play rapidly declined.

I hope KO does well….I just worry that his injury history will continue.

Here’s a guy named Tebow who kicked college football’s arse, arguably one of the greatest players of all time. He can have his fake religion…but I respect that we won’t have any off-field issues with him. But his inner fire for winning is amazing! With that kind of passion and exciting Elway-esque spontaneous play at a position that has long been bereft of leadership and that we all yearn for, I would start him just to watch what happens! If Orton gets us to the playoffs and falls down on third down in the clutch, I’m going to scream! All we Tebow supporters can do is kick back and hope Orlando Franklin takes his time learning to pass block, so that Orton gets kicked to the curb quick. This is the first time in thirty years of being a Bronco fan that I ever saw injury as the solution to our QB ailments. I like Orton, he is the best chance of us winning now…but I’d rather lose with fire and passion and excitement than watch him fail AGAIN..

I’m glad the discussion is about Bronco quarterbacks on our roster and not *cough #6—-he who’s name shouldn’t be spoken on these boards. I’d much rather have Orton, Tebow, or Quinn over that POS!

rec’d to you.
I feel the exact same way. Logically Orton is the choice. The emotional choice for me is Tebow…….the kids a winner and I just love watching him play.

has been shot, ran over, thrown over a cliff, set on fire and then in a plane crash followed by a head on collision with a mack truck. Here, one more good stomp ought to do it.

Your welcome, everybody!

Tebow isn’t ready to start this year but if we dont start him this year we should just trade him or release him because our FO doesn’t have faith in him?

My head started to hurt trying to understand that.

I feel spent on this topic myself especially after debating it on IAOFM earlier. The MSM won’t let it die but we can do our best to leave it in our wake and focus on other things. Not that this whole story has been written—it will be interesting to see how it develops ( and how Tebow develops)—but I’m done with this chapter.

Brady Quinn was given a great look for the trading block is my guess. Tebow is really untradable and uncuttable this year. If he doesn’t show significant improvement next year, he may go but right now he’s going to stay if for nothing else, logistics.

Quinn on the other hand could draw some serious trade value from the Bengals, Bills, Dolphins, Seahawks or 49ers.

In fact, I’d go as far as to say that with his level of play so far this year and the fact that if the Bengals or 49ers don’t make a play for him (or at least someone) they are giving up on their season… Quinn could even draw a 4th round with the ability to move up to a 2nd if he hits certain numbers.

Personally, I like the guy and would have liked to see him given a shot with the 1st team but when it was announced he would be 2nd string, the first thing I thought was “oh, they must be shopping him.”

and tell him we have his back. Now go win games. And smile every once in a while.