Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 8/23/11

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Broncos name Kyle Orton starter for opener vs. Raiders - The Denver Post
Head coach John Fox made official Monday what anyone who watched the Broncos training camp and the teams first two preseason games already knew: Kyle Orton is the teams starting quarterback.
Tim Tebow's third-string role with Broncos a polarizing issue - The Denver Post
Tim Tebow didnt play much Saturday night, but his FRS energy drink ad certainly did. Nothing against the ad, which played relentlessly on the local telecast of the Broncos preseason victory over Buffalo. As energy drink ads go, its a pretty good one.
Preseason Wk. 3 - Monday: Fox | DenverBroncos.com
Head Coach John Fox talks about the defense's performance against the Bills and names Kyle Orton the starter for the season opener against Oakland.
Digging Deep for Defensive Depth | MaxDenver.com
Three quarters of preseason work has been enough to provide a glimpse into what the Broncos’ overhauled first-team defense wants to bring: a speedy edge pass rush, swarm tackling and an aggression that forces mismatches and coaxes foes into attacking the Broncos’ strongest points.
Rahim Moore insists hit on Donald Jones was clean - Aurora Sentinel
Safety Rahim Moore's vicious hit on Buffalo wide receiver Donald Jones drew outrage and shoves from the Bills and kudos from his Denver Broncos teammates.
Willis McGahee provides needed power running to Broncos - The Denver Post
There is making yourself at home. Then there is Willis McGahee really making himself at home.
DenverBroncos.com
BTV Monday News Hit | DenverBroncos.com
Rookie progression and the starting QB is officially named - Broncos TV brings you the news from Monday at Dove Valley in 90 seconds.
Orton Named Week 1 Starter | DenverBroncos.com
Head Coach John Fox said Monday that Kyle Orton will start the team's season opener on Monday Night Football against the Raiders.
NFL.com
NFL.com news: Who's No. 2? Tebow, Quinn in fight to see who backs up Orton
Kyle Orton will start for the Broncos on Week 1 against the Raiders, Denver coach John Fox made that clear on Monday. But the backup job will be a competition that lasts throughout the rest of the preseason.
NFL Videos: Tebow's time in Denver in limbo?
he "NFL Total Access" crew debates whether the Broncos should hold onto QB Tim Tebow.
NFL Videos: Fox: Orton to start, but backup role up for grabs
Broncos head coach John Fox says he knows who will start Week 1 against the Raiders. Now, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn will battle it out for the right to be Orton's backup.
First and Orange Blog
Broncos' Orlando Franklin's international off-day | First-and-Orange
The Broncos had their first officially day off since training camp ended on Sunday.
Broncos waive tight end Richard Quinn | First-and-Orange
The Broncos announced Monday that third-year tight end Richard Quinn has been waived with a knee injury.
The Denver Post
Look for the Fox-coached Broncos to have a power running game - The Denver Post
Todays questions come from Dave Brown: Can the Broncos rehire offensive line coach Alex Gibbs? And should they go back to using quick, athletic linemen to restore the power in their running game?
Denver Broncos' defense still struggling against the run - The Denver Post
Through two games that havent counted, the Broncos appear improved in almost every facet.
Broncos hope this is the last time they change direction - The Denver Post
The Broncos are looking forward to the days when they dont have to make seismic changes. But those days arent here yet. Denver remains in major rebuilding mode after finishing 4-12 last year.
Sports Authority CEO David Campisi resigns - The Denver Post
Barely a week after inking a deal to hang its name on the Broncos stadium, Englewood- based Sports Authority said its chief executive has resigned.
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“We’ve been working with him all camp. He’s been with the one’s,” wide receiver Eddie Royal said of Orton. “I guess there’s not really any surprise to us. It’s nice to know who is going to be back there throwing you the ball on Day 1. We all have had confidence in Kyle since Day 1, so no surprise to us.”
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On a more relevant note:
I really believe that the Broncos need one more Big Man in the Dline middle even after Thomas comes back. Also, Irving needs to develop fast…..
And if neither of these things happen?
Xanders, call Seattle.. Brady Quinn and our 5th rounder for Seattle's 2012 2nd rounder (moves to a 1st if Quinn gets them to the playoffs). Time for some revenge for the Phonz trade.
Well......
you get to b++chmore about Tebow not starting…..
OH, Hey!!! I forgot. You are the Armchair GM of the Blog. Sorry if your lady parts were hurt…….
This has nothing to do with Tebow.
It’s pretty simple really. We may not add another DT and Irving may not be ready in 2011. So if that rather likely situation happens, what next? As your question asks… it’s relevant.
And why would I feel bent out of shape? We just played our best game since we smoked KC in the Haley handshake maybe we cheated game. I’m pretty pleased with that effort.
Xanders, call Seattle.. Brady Quinn and our 5th rounder for Seattle's 2012 2nd rounder (moves to a 1st if Quinn gets them to the playoffs). Time for some revenge for the Phonz trade.
Agreed
The rotation now isn’t bad, but it looked a whole lot better with Warren in there.
We’re solid on the back end, and we have good speed at linebacker. The pass rush is going to be there.
But I’d sure like a Pat Williams or an Albert Haynesworth clogging the middle and tossing aside o-lineman.
Thanks for the Tracks Tim.
It cracks me up how so many media outlets completely ignore, or are simply unaware of, Fox’s statements indicating there is no #2/#3 spot designation and that Tebow took the #2 spot the first week, Quinn the second week.
Now, if Tebow doesn’t take the #2 spot against the Seahawks, I’ll have a feeling that he has an idea who the backup role will be filled by, and likely be relegating Tim to the #3 spot. Which, with the new #3 QB rules, should be fine.
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 23, 2011 8:50 AM MDT reply actions
That backup QB spot is not an interesting debate because the backup rarely plays. What is interesting is if Tebow is ever inserted into the game as red zone QB or short yardage QB.
With the demise of the 3rd QB roster rule, it really doesn’t matter which guy is #2 or #3 because the coaches can play them both and still reinsert the starter.
Good rule change by the NFL BTW.
Xanders, call Seattle.. Brady Quinn and our 5th rounder for Seattle's 2012 2nd rounder (moves to a 1st if Quinn gets them to the playoffs). Time for some revenge for the Phonz trade.
Correct me if I'm wrong
But I don’t believe you have to use that extra game day roster spot on your 3rd QB. I believe you can use it on any position. TE, DL, RB or any other position. Would we really want to use that extra roster spot on a QB? So whoever is going to be 2nd string actually does matter.
You may be right but i dont think a team would enter a game without 3 QBs available to them
Unless they had some s*&# hot utility type player who could play QB in a pinch…
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by orange&blue_aussie on Aug 23, 2011 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Wouldn't......
tebowners go nuts? Holy schamoly! Imagine the rightious indignation and threats to leave the Broncos that would engender!
I shall correct you
You are mistaken. The extra roster spot was created to kill the 3rd QB rule. Which no longer exists. Teams can now carry that 46th spot for the 3rd QB and play that QB whenever they want with no repercussions.
Xanders, call Seattle.. Brady Quinn and our 5th rounder for Seattle's 2012 2nd rounder (moves to a 1st if Quinn gets them to the playoffs). Time for some revenge for the Phonz trade.
yep. much ado.
fox said on KOA yesterday that he probably wouldn’t designate those spots because there’s no reason to, and that it would likely change during the season anyway depending on matchups. but hey, anything to stir the pot, right?…
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by KaptainKirk on Aug 23, 2011 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Orton can't get much better....
I don’t know why it is not painfully obvious to people how Tebow has the potential to improve more than Orton. Tebow has more holes in his game and the holes Orton has he can’t really improve. Orton knows the system. Orton is an accurate passer. Orton has good timing and rhythm with is receivers. Orton does a good job of reading defenses. All of these are why Orton is the starting QB. What Orton does not do well; he can not extend the play and he does not move well in the pocket. Does this mean Orton can never extend a play or never moves well in the pocket, of course not. It does mean he can not be counted on to do these things regularly. This is why he will never be as good as Ben or Brees, who can extend the play, and Brady and Manning who move really well in the pocket. If he could do these things, teams would have been lining up to give up a first round draft choice and pay Orton QB money. Not to mention, we would not have been trying to trade him. Orton’s shortcomings do not show in training camp or exhibition games where teams mostly play vanilla. Orton’s shortcomings show up against good defenses who pressure the offense into making plays which puts more pressure on the QB. This is not an indictment of Orton, few QBs are able to shoulder that kind of burden.
Tebow needs to learn the system. He needs way better timing with his recievers. He needs to be more accurate. Some claim a QB can not become more accurate, it this is true, you can chalk another wasted 1st round draft pick up to McD as Tebow will bust. Tebow needs to learn to read defenses better. He needs more work on his footwork in the pocket. What he did show in three games last year is he can be a playmaker in the NFL. He can put pressure on a defense in ways Orton never will. He does a nice job of throwing accurately when receivers are matched one-on-one with defenders. This should not be surprising as it was a staple in the Florida offense. He does bring a fire to an offense and a team. People forgot how low the Broncos were when Tebow went in for those last three games and how much he did fire people up with his play and leadership. Critics are right, however, if he does not get more accurate from the pocket, that fire will not continue to be effective.
All in all, Tebow has more holes in his game and more things to improve on than Orton. If he can improve on those areas, he will be a better QB than Orton, but that is still a potential future. Many believe it will never happen. Orton does not have the athleticism nor the pocket sense to get much better in the only areas he lacks. This is why he will never be an elite QB. But,hey, we could do a hell of a lot worse.
ON the Herd, Colin Cowherd brings another spin in to the equation of why Tim Tebow won't be a good quarterback in the NFL,
and that the Denver broncos and Oakland Raiders always make the same mistakes at the quarterback position…Cowherd states the wonderlic as a measuring stick in how well a QB will do in the NFL when it comes to making decisions. Any score under 26 is not good enough to be the ‘guy’ he spouts from sources. Tebow had a 22. Cam Newton 21, Jake Locker 20. Future Hall of Fame Bret Farve had a 22…I guess Timmie will never make it in the NFL!?! The spin goes on…
i do agree with cowherd in that QB is probably the most important position in sports to look for intelligence. the problem might be the wonderlic. if i remember correctly, dan marino scored slightly lower than a box of hair. marino had a quicker release though.
He wasn’t nearly as flaxen, though.
I would have drafted the blonde…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 23, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
uh, hello? Do I get a 70% discount, since most of that beautiful mane has gone the way of the dodo? (interpret dodo as you pleas…)
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by Jeremy Bolander on Aug 23, 2011 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I really think
the Moore hit was clean. If you watch the slowmo he turns his body to make sure he hits shoulder first, hits with his head up and never leaves his feet. If the NFL bans a hit like that then I don’t know what they expect safeties to do…
M. Silver says Tebow is the worst QB on the roster, behind even Weber
Weber has impressed. Tebow has not.

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