The Opposing Viewpoint: Seattle Seahawks
Please pardon my intrusion. I’m Jacson and I write for Field Gulls, the Seattle Seahawks’ SBN site. Mile High Report has agreed to swap "what to watch for" articles before Saturday’s game, so I’m here to offer a little overview on some things to keep your eyes open for from Seattle's side.
I realize that many of you may not be terribly interested in what to look for from the Seahawks, but take a moment to think about how similar our two franchises are;
*You guys had John Elway, we had Rick Mirer
*You guys won back-to-back Super Bowls, we’re the reigning division champs
*Your coach is named Fox, ours is a silver fox.
*You guys had a 2,000 yard rusher, we had Ricky Watters once
*You guys drafted Von Miller, I drink Miller Genuine Draft
You see, we’re not so different, you and I.
With that in mind, here are the key points from the Seahawks’ perspective:
The third pre-season game is unique in that it's the one in which you typically get the best look at what a team will be like during the regular season. During the first two games, Seattle's starters played one and two quarters, respectively. Head Coach Pete Carroll has said that the projected starters will play well into the second half of this one, so it's our best opportunity to evaluate the players that are likely to have the biggest impact on our season.
I, for one, am partial to the last pre-season game because I am utterly fascinated by the battles for the final roster spots, but that is another thing entirely. As far as Saturday's game goes, however, you'll be privy to watching a combination of Vikings West (WR Sidney Rice, QB Tarvaris Jackson, and OC Darrell Bevell) attempting to merge with Raiders North (TE Zach Miller, OG Robert Gallery, OL Coach Tom Cable). The Seahawks have created a culture of roster turnover in the first two off-seasons under Carroll and GM John Schneider, as the team transistions from the Mike Holmgren / Tim Ruskell era of gritty veteran presence the Carroll / Schneider era of high-upside playmakers.
Offensively, the Seahawks are an interesting case study in system adaptation. Carroll brought a distinct offensive formula to Seattle and, instead of trying to force a bunch of old, square pegs into his round holes (gross), he has brought in a bunch of guys that fit his system. Jackson is a mobile quarterback with questionable accuracy, but he knows Bevell's offense and is being asked to be more of a game manager than a game-changer. It will be interesting to see how he handles the precision necessary for underneath routes, and how often he goes deep to his main man Rice.
In the first two games, Jackson has spent as much time running for survival as he has spent in the pocket, as Seattle's brand new offensive line has had their issues gelling together. With Russell Okung nursing his ankle, Tyler Polumbus has had to fill in as a bookend. Seattle used it's first two draft picks this year on the right side of their line, picking OT James Carpenter and OG John Moffitt. Both have showed talent, but have also showed how big the difference between college and the pros is. I'm curious to see how they handle V. Miller and Elvis Dumervil.
Seattle has also loaded up their backfield, with ESPY nominee Leon Washington and the diminutive, I-Dare-You-To-Tackle-Me Justin Forsett backing up certified lunatic and author of one of the greatest post-season plays in history, Marshawn Lynch. With Lynch resting on Saturday, the competition for secondary carries will be fierce, as Washington appears to be back to the form that had him on track to be the Jets' future feature back and Forsett sports a mean 4.9 YPC for his career.
The wide-outs should be fun to watch, too, as towering split ends Rice and Mike Williams offer complimentary skill-sets (Rice as a deep-threat, Williams as a monstrous possession receiver). Their roles on this team are not in question, but it's the guys beneath them that offer intrigue. Golden Tate flashes Percy Harvin potential, but has thus far struggled transitioning from best-athlete-on-the-field in college to precise-route-runner and needs a solid performance to solidify himself as the #3 guy. Doug Baldwin and Ben Obomanu are poised to rip that title from him if he continues to falter. Bevell's offense seemingly favors a guy like Tate, who in a Field Gulls interview admits to having a running back mind-set despite being a wide receiver. Furthermore, the Seahawks now feature a potent two-TE offense with Z. Miller and John Carlson that reflects Carroll's preference while at USC but has gone into hibernation in the NFL.
Defensively speaking, the Seahawks are extremely young, as they--
You guys still with me? Some of you? Good enough.
The defensive line has potential to be very disruptive, and is the most consistent aspect of the Seattle team from last year. Red Bryant and Brandon Mebane represent some of the best interior line value in the league and the Chris Clemons / Raheem Brock are capable of providing off-the-end pressure when the guards and center are tied up with Bryant and Mebane. I don't know what shape the Broncos' tackles are in, but they should be well-tested by the time the game is over.
The 'Hawks linebacking core is a bit of a grab bag. You've got unheralded ball-hawk David Hawthorne, on-the-precipice-of-being-a-bust Aaron Curry, returning felon Leroy Hill, over-performing rookie KJ Wright, and a battle for the final one or two spots between USC rooks Malcolm Smith, Michael Morgan, and Rams transplant David Vobora.
For my money, the most interesting aspect of the Seattle team is the secondary. With Kam Chancellor recovering from one of those not-serious pre-season injuries, generally untested (yet promising) Josh Pinkard will be lining up at strong safety next to future Pro-Bowler Earl Thomas. Those two will be backed up by some combination of roster hopefuls Atari Bigby, Jeron Johnson, and friend of Field Gulls, Mark LeGree. The cornerback position is intriguing as well, as youngsters Walter Thurmond III, Richard Sherman, and Byron Maxwell compete with incumbent (and fan-punching-bag) Kelly Jennings for the starting spot opposite Marcus Trufant.
As far as special teams go, bad-ass Jon Ryan is all but cemented as our punter and resident douchebag Jeff Reed seems to have fist-pumped the kicker position into submission.
I have no idea how much any of this matters to you guys, but I hope it is a helpful aid as you watch the NFL foreplay that is pre-season football. If you have any questions, let me know in the comments section and I'll do my best to answer them. Thanks for your time.
Cheers, and here's to everyone on both teams getting up after every play.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I have a question about your D-Line.
Who, as far as D-tackles do you see that may be waved in the coming days? The Broncos are starved for depth at that position and Seattle is always loaded.
Chuck Norris once asked Tim Tebow for advice on martial arts.
Well, you may have missed your best opportunity
Seattle released Kentwan Balmer a couple of days ago, a former 1st round pick by the 49ers, but he was claimed immediately by Carolina. After him, I don’t know if the Seahawk’s excess will be too exciting for you.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions
yes, i was bummed they missed out on him
thanks.
Chuck Norris once asked Tim Tebow for advice on martial arts.
Rec'd for the introduction alone
Now that is the way to make an “away” post. It sounds like you’re not too sold on the Pete Carroll era and the players he is choosing. Is this a common gripe in the northwest?
by relocated bronco in NC on Aug 26, 2011 10:17 AM MDT reply actions 3 recs
I appreciate the rec
And to be honest, I actually am a big fan of the approach Carroll and Schneider are taking. I’m not real big on “gritty veteran presence” or choosing intangibles over quantifiable talent, and that was something that really plagued the last couple of seasons in Seattle, choosing polish over potential.
Carroll has done something pretty remarkable; even though the ’Hawks won their division in embarrassing fashion, the level of buy-in from the player is really high. Practices are more upbeat, player interviews are more positive, and Seattle has become a desirable destination for free agents (including guys like Mike Williams and Brandon Mebane giving up money to stay here).
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Most of us are satisfied.
Sidney Rice and Zach Miller are both Pro-Bowl talents under the age of 25. The last regime was a fan of signing soon to be over hill veterans to large contracts in order to block any young talent from developing (Julius Jones, Patrick Kerney, Mike Wahle, Deon Grant, Brian Russell, there are more I’m probably forgetting)
Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan
by Fearless Frog on Aug 26, 2011 2:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I really appreciate this. Its nice to have some perspective from the other team..
Im interested to see how well Jackson can utilize your wr corp, which is quite impressive i must say(including Miller and Carlson). And if he is given any rope to play with at all… i want to see how our secondary measures up.
Im also incredibly interested your d-line vs our o-line. should be a very good test for us to see if we can keep the pocket from collapsing (especially on the right side) and if we can still maintain the good level of push in the running game we have been seeing.
ashame Lynch is resting, i wanted to see how Doom would have handled tackling such a tenacious runner.
IMHO, and with absolutely no disrepect to you guys, i think we have an edge here overall. You d-line is probably better. But our secondary, o-line, qb’s, wr’s, and for this game only rb’s have the edge. But I think it comes down to the fact that you guys are also in the middle of rebuilding, and in the same posistion as we were last year, albeit with a better overall defense.
A good friend of mine is from seattle and HUGE seahawks fan. We rag on him a lot, but I do actually like the seahawks. best of luck to both teams this game, and the season.
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I like the intro too.
Ofcourse the Seahawks and Broncos go way back. It was a great rivalry when you were a part of the AFC West.
Who would you say is your greatest rival in the NFC West and why?
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
Good question
The history of the post-realignment division has been dominated by the Seahawks and Rams, so I’d have to say St. Louis. The problem with being a transplant in an underwhelming division is that the hatred doesn’t come as naturally.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
At least you don't have the raiders twice a year.
Do you miss it?
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Aug 26, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I think so
But only because one of my good friends is an absolutely insufferable Raiders fan. Then again, Oakland kicked us in the groin last year until our whole nether region was one big casserole of silliness.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
YOUR casserole?? lol i feel you but..
..59-14 last year in our first game. set all kinds of records i dont even want to think about. Its safe to say that the Bronco nation will not even be remotely satisfied unless the Oakland Raiders are doubly embarrassed this year…
They say the cool is all over me..
Seahawks always seemed to have the Raiders number
Apart from last year, the Seahawks always seemed to be able to beat the Raiders more often than not when they were in the AFC West.. Thank you Seahawks for that.
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 26, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice article, I like your style. ;-)
Pete Carroll seems from an outside perspective to be a total lunatic.. How much trust is there in his methods and do you think he is on course to lead your relatively young squad back to relevance? (no offense) :-P
by HorseStance on Aug 26, 2011 10:29 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Ook looks like someone beat me to this question..
by HorseStance on Aug 26, 2011 10:31 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
None taken.
It’s funny to hear that he looks crazy from the outside. There seems to be a fair amount of trust in his methods — the players are so much more excited in games and practices than they were under Jim Mora Jr. It’s cheesy, but Carroll actually seems to be a hell of a motivator.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm with you man,
how much the players buy into the coach’s philosophy makes a huge difference, we know this only too well from the Josh McDaniels era. They were with him for a few games but once doubt crept in they stopped playing as hard, giving in to the despair of a losing season.
Motivation aside, do you think he can succeed in the NFL as a head coach? He was obviously pretty successful as a college HC but how well has he adjusted to the NFL and do you see him being the long term solution?
by HorseStance on Aug 26, 2011 10:57 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
He's in a pretty good position
He has an involved ownership that trusts him, he has a ton of influence on personnel decisions, and inherited a team with an old roster ripe for turnover. Bringing in guys that fit his system was pretty easy to do, so he has the rare benefit of re-building his way.
His main emphases are size and play-making ability. You’ll notice tomorrow that we’ve got some pretty enormous people on the team, including a 6’4" CB, a 6’3" safety, a 6’4" LB, a gigantic offensive line, and two 6’5" WRs — and the every day mantra is to go out and make a big play.
He coaches for a team with an excitable fanbase and for the most part, the city is behind him. He’s getting a team that was coming off of two pretty retchid seasons, so expectations were reasonable when he got here, which helps.
So, yeah, I think he can be successful in terms of wins and losses, it just probably won’t be this year.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
rah rah that shows results will work
But when achievement is stagnant or moving backwards, rah rah can get stale in a big hurry.
That was Carrol’s previous experience in NE. It will be interesting to watch in the second year for you guys.
"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers
Absolutely
I’m a big believer that chemistry generally follows success, and not the other way around. However, the team had gotten so dysfunctional by the time Mora’s brief tenure was over, that Carroll’s leg-humping was like fresh water to the ’Hawks. Besides, Carroll has turned over 70% of the roster since he arrived, so most of the guys on the team now legitimately seem to feel wanted, and I think that can go a long way.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Carroll inherited his NE team
He’s been able to tear-down and rebuild this Seahawks team. One of the early moves was paying to cut TJ Houshmanzadeh, a decidely non-Rah Rah player. I think this might make a difference in the way the team reacts (not that anyone is going to enjoy losing).
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 26, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Perilous position
7-9 is actually worse than the Broncos record in the 1st year of McDaniels. But you went to the postseason. But if you go 4-12 this year, the fans might not be so skipper. You might think as long as Pete Carrol doesn’t get caught cheating, the city won’t turn on him, but fans pissed at losing can always find grounds for lynching a coach in the downswing.
The team has young talent and upside, though.
Compared to 2008 and 2009 where the team was supposed to be a contender but in reality just filled with terrible players that are mostly now gone.
Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan
by Fearless Frog on Aug 26, 2011 2:26 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
OCD much?
Efren Herrera is my spirit animal
by BeaverBird on Aug 26, 2011 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seahawks fans
are as loyal as we are. I have traveled well into the Magic Valley and Treasure Valley of southwestern Idaho, there are kids who rock Seahawks gear just like most of us Utahns rock Broncos gear. I respect teams like ours who have fanbases that go out of their media market. I wonder: where in Montana is the line between Broncos and Seahawks territory drawn? I imagine Missoula is Hawks turf while Miles City, Billings, etc. is Broncos land
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions
more toward
Boise, not so much Twin
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm from Southern Idaho, too - Burley
Small world
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Pocatello has way more Denver fans, but
the **** sports radio station gives the Seahawks games even tough the cable and local TV give the Broncos. Weird.
He always was at USC
that’s his flagship gift, although he obviously has others which are solid
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Question for ya.
Are you happy with your starting QB, and do you think Carrol could’ve done better?
Warning: If you're reading this it has been censored.
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
Prediction for 2011:
Doctors will find out that Tebows blue balls were effecting his ability to throw a accurate pass.
I tried to answer this a few comments above.
But short answer, yeah, I’m okay with it this year.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
To second what Jacson was saying,
yeah we’re happy with our QB situation up here, in context of what was available to us. I think the view outside of Seattle is that we think Tarvaris is going to be our guy for years to come when really, he’s just here to get us through until we have a chance at someone legit either through the draft or some unforeseen trade (Palmer?). We couldn’t take any more Hasselbeck, his self-sacks and and phantom-pressure-induced interceptions had the fans chanting Charlie’s name last year. And Pete clearly wasn’t as sold as AZ that Kolb was worth the price they were asking, nor the dollars Kolb was asking.
If no significant move is made in next year’s draft or off-season, sure there will be some big question marks, but right now I think we understand the plan and are fine with it.
1. Charlie Whitehurst 2. ??? 3. Profit!!!
Thanks Jacson!
For those, unaware, MHR and Field Gulls have had guest writers for each other today. To check out the Broncos article, follow the link.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:35 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Since i have to wait 22 hours to comment on THAT article..
Ill just say I enjoyed your write-up as well. Reading about VonDoom got me verrrrrrry excited.. Id change my name, but Tebows name works best with… well you know
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Adam Weber? :)
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions
And THAT MHR handle will be taken in 3..2..1..
lol
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hahahaha
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 26, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice piece over there
It let me rec it, but they make me wait for membership to comment. Longer than normal, too.
You’re a better man than I am; I’d have torn into that guy on his Elway comment lol
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
I saw that, I would feel the same if I were a Seahawk fan.
I know, you're a better fan than me.
by plainview88 on Aug 26, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
He's only hated because he was so good.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly, we don’t hate Rivers because of his accent.
I know, you're a better fan than me.
by plainview88 on Aug 26, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Actually... I hate river's face.
Good or not… its…. just his face.
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by Teboner on Aug 26, 2011 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for truth
My buddies and I play the “Philip Rivers Drinking Game” every Sunday. You have to drink every time Philip Rivers has a “Philip Rivers” face.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions
And youre still alive? :o
"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore
lol
I actually laughed. I hate your face too Rivers..
I. hate. your. Face!
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Plus
if anyone has noticed my recent activity on SB Nation, I have done team-by-team previews on all blogs from which I have not been blocked. Anyway, the Raiders are next (ugh) but I look forward to when I get to Field Gulls next week!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for stopping by, nice read
Sounds like quite a few transitional guys in there tomorrow.
Polumbus used to play here, so we’re familiar with his play. Are your two rookie linemen starting? Is the rookie guard playing on the same side as Tyler (and what side is that)?
If Jackson had a hard time last week, I think it’s only going to get worse. I’m not just busting your chops here by saying Elvis and Von will smell blood in the water – they’re straight up quarterback killers and had Ryan Fitzpatrick running for his life last week.
I don’t know the current state of your team much more than what you’ve given us here, but it sounds like your OL needs some time to get rookies introduced to the speed and for your starting tackle to come back from injury. If that’s indeed the case, you might need to get on the horn with Pete and ask him to send in whatever quarterback you don’t necessarily need to have back =) Thanks again. Rec’d
The Broncos had Fitzpatrick running for his life last week and
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Polumbus was slated as a backup OG
But is subbing in for Okung at LT. The two rookies are on the right side. Our opening day line projects to be Okung, Gallery, Unger, Moffitt, Carpenter. Polumbus has the versaitlity necessary to provide back-up at OG or OT.
And yes, it could look like Shark Night 3D in the Seattle backfield tomorrow.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
A rookie at right bookend and a backup on the left… betta hide yo kids =)
The middle of our defensive line is a work in progress and is still questionable against the run. I guess that’ll probably be the game plan for you guys?
Obviously as a Bronco fan, I’ll probably look to get my kicks on the pass rush of VonDoom, but a really great test and battle will probably be the check downs to your very talented TEs. Von Miller plays SAM for us when it’s not an obvious pass situation (where he moves to DE), and Von hasn’t played in coverage a lot. How he does against your TEs will be good to watch. And it will be a great test for us to pay attention to because the AFC West is known for having some talented TEs.
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Von Miller is so cool.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
I took that as friendly sarcasm and decided to wait until after the game :)
He is pretty cool, though, eh?
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
temporary blindness
from that shirtless photo of mickey rourke. lucky for you guys his leg’s as big as his left nipple. congrats on that.
You clicked the Jeff Reed link, didn't you?
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for the write up, Jacson
I live in Seattle now, but grew up in Colorado. I root for both teams, but obviously have to go with the Broncos on this one. Still, I really appreciate you taking the time to write this and stick around in the comments. Field Gulls is a classy site, and this type of content makes all of sbnation a better place. Cheers!
by DBroncoFan on Aug 26, 2011 11:26 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Cheers!
You ever make it to a game at Qwest/CLink?
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes.
I’ve been there a few times, and we’ll probably make it for the home opener again this year. I do my best to help maintain the fan’s/stadium’s decibel reputation. Unfortunately, my Tatupu jersey is no longer current. I’ll still wear it proudly though.
Whoops, blew the reply on that one.
I think you can still figure it out.
Thanks Jacson you get my Rec.
I just want to say im very sorry that Polumbus is starting for you right now.. We’ve been down that road.
"The only thing I’m addicted to right now is winning." -Charlie Sheen
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore
Yes
But I think the battles for spots in the secondary are among the most competitive.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
In the old AFC West
the Seahawks were the division rival I never really hated. Those retro unis were tight! 
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 12:22 PM MDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd for Brian Blades.
That dude was my favorite. And I am absolutely in favor of bringing back the silver helmet / silver pants look.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
B. Blades
was the first Seahawks card I had in my NFL collection, of course I got all Broncos first! Do you remember when you could buy a pack of 20 at your local convenience store?
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I like the current Seahawks uniforms
Very distinctive, and fitting for the area, IMO.
Personal relations consist of an uneasy truce between powerful, solitary fantasy systems.
Janet Malcolm
They're growing on me
But I’ve always thought they looked like a finger-painting a kindergartner did.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions
The Seahawks don't feel the same way.
Too many Elway-led comeback victories.
Although they dislike the Raiders as much as we do.
Yep.
That Raiders fans are awful is a universal truth.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
and Jacob Green
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree, I miss our old uniforms.
The teams contract with reebok runs out after this season, with Nike taking over. The Team President said on Seattle radio a month or so ago, that there will be a uniform change. I’m really hoping they bring back the old colors. I wouldn’t mind going back to the old logo too, but I’d also be okay with going back to the old colors and keeping the updated sharper looking hawk logo too.
by Mind of no mind on Aug 26, 2011 11:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry you have Polumbus
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
by BroncoMath101 on Aug 26, 2011 12:28 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Some of my worst Broncos memories are Seattle related
Like Karlis doinking a 19 yard field goal off of an upright at the end of regulation, prompting a bunch of Seattle players celebrating right in front of where I was sitting. Or Steve Largent torching Louis Wright.
Of course TD went over 2000 yards against you.
Miss having the Seahawks in the AFC West. Now you’re just another team.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Very nice post! Rec'ed.
Thanks for letting me have insight into hyour view of your team. I hope we are represented as well as you represented your team,.
Thanks!
Troy did a great job with his article over at Field Gulls. I’m real impressed with the football acumen MHR’s readers have. I’ve been spoiled over at FG with those readers, so it’s cool to see another really knowledgeable fan base.
I’ll keep doing my best to answer questions.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions
1st round QB bust out of Notre Dame.
Somehow traded to the Chicago Bears for a 1st round pick that became Walter Jones.
Aaron Curry is the first Seahawk since Walter Jones to have a legitimate shot at Hall of Fame induction - John Morgan
by Fearless Frog on Aug 26, 2011 2:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
LMAO!
The talented genius that is the Chicago Bears Front Office.
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My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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Yep!
How does that dude still have a job? Angelo should have been fired once the “throw in guy” started out performing the guy that cost them two 1s and a 3.
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Probably still has a job because they're 58-38 in the last 6 seasons (.674)
Every GM makes some bad moves, but the Bears have been among the most successful teams in the NFL for better than half a decade.
Over the same stretch:
Denver Broncos: 49-47
Seattle Seahawks: 48-48
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions
It's the job of the head coach to win games
It’s the job of the general manager to home grow the talent. When you’ve got to mortgage a couple drafts for a hack like Cutler and go break the bank for a guy like Peppers, and when you don’t hit on many draft picks… it’s time for the GM to be seriously looked at.
Their drafts have been bad, their FA spending has been high and that trade cost them their future. Add in that it was a really bad trade, and I think it’s fair to say Jerry Angelo isn’t doing his job very well. You can give him credit for the wins if you want, but my guess is that their owner gives him credit (read: blame) for the drafts, the trades and for their need to spend a fortune on free agents.
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Most of the Bears' playmakers have been "home grown"
Urlacher, Hester, Forte, Briggs, etc. Your view on GMs diverges with mine when it comes to credit for wins and losses. I believe that one game or one season is too small a sample size to judge a GM on, whereas a span of a few years is a better barometer.
I don’t care who your coach is, if you have a GM as incompetent as you imply Angelo is, you cannot win 67% of your games over six seasons in the NFL.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Correction: 61%
I still stand by my opinion.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions
This is a league of "what have you done for me lately"
Briggs was drafted in 2003. Urlacher was drafted in 2000. Hester isn’t exactly a stellar receiver, just a scary return guy, and Forte was a good pick. NOthing in recent drafts stands out as being indicative of a good front office. The Cutler trade wouldn’t be made today if they had it to do over. And the failures of these recent drafts forced them to spend money in free agency like a rapper at a strip club.
Those boys aren’t growing their talent in house lately. Theird drafts haven’t been good lately. And they’ve been having to trade for talent by mortgaging their future drafts, and they’ve had to spend a lot of money in free agency.
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
And yet, they win.
I’m not saying Angelo is a great GM, or even a very good GM. I’m saying he’s not incompetent, and in terms of “what have you done for me lately?”, they have been one of the most successful teams in the league.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I guess we'll just have to disagree
To me, Lovie Smith has been successful lately despite Angelo not drafting him many pieces to work with. And I think the owner certainly gives Jerry a knock for having to go out and pay for talent lately instead of drafting it.
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
I'm with you, there.
I don’t want this conversation to preclude my preference for building through the draft. Nothing in professional sports has a lower ROI than free agency. Neither you or I will be surprised if Chicago falls off in the next couple of years, but they’ve had a hell of a run.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I think they'll be a victim of their schedule
And the increasing talent in their division. I could see anywhere from 8 to 10 wins this year, but I could see that dropping in 2012.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions
It seems they're not building a solid foundation for the future
They could take a bad fall from grace like the Broncos did back in ’05
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
Could be any day, but a lot depends on Cutler
After ranking 30th in total offense, the Bears made the big game last year despite Cutler, not because of him. If I put my objective hat on, Jay has always had the tools to be a franchise guy. If he matures as a person and grows into that role, all bets are off. Otherwise, I think they take major strides backward this year or next.
A contender can’t expect to keep filling out their roster through free agency with pickups like Peppers, Roy Williams, Marion Barber, Chester Taylor, etc.. They need to hit a draft again now that they’ve gotten past the era of their mortgaged drafts due to the Cutler trade.
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Im not sure how much longer Cutler will last
behind that awful O line. Doesnt look like its improved much either from last year. I would wager that if Urlacher goes down, so do da bear, much like the downfall of the Broncos when Al Wilson went down
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
You guys got a 1st for Mirer?
That’s awesome!
If I had a dollar for every Super Bowl San Diego has won, I'd go window shopping at the dollar store.
I can't remember why Seattle got Mirer
from Notre Dame and New England got Drew Bledsoe from Washington. Always seemed ironic.
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 26, 2011 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Now I remember
Bledsoe was taken No. 1 overall out of the Seahawks backyard (Washington State) and Mirer was No. 2 overall in the same draft of 1993. So close, yet so far. Kind of a reverse Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf situation (Bledsoe from Washington State had a good career, while Mirer bombed/Manning has had a great career, while Leaf from Washington State bombed).
If I can't have high expectations that succeed, I''d rather have high expectations and be disappointed than have low expectations and be resigned to losing.
by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 26, 2011 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions
His Berman nickname
was Grace under Mirer to mimic the one-time ABC sitcom Grace Under Fire
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Aug 26, 2011 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions
What an amalgamation of a team you guys have this year!
I greatly appreciate you taking the time to throw down on this overview. It is well written, very emphatic to the ‘home’ crowd, and quite humorous.
I miss having two respectful rivals in the division. Now We just have the Chiefs, and that rivalry seems to be losing respect year by year. I can’t say it succinctly, but the combination of football knowledge, passion and humor, are a stellar combination to have. Thanks again, for the post – going to be a great game (for preseason).
And by great, I mean We’ll win. Heh heh just kidding. I might be semi-serious on that joke, were it regular season, but I’m not the type to ‘foretell’ – I’ll make an educated guess, but those folks that ‘know’ this team or that team is or isn’t going to the SB really make me sick. Anyway, again, great insight, outsight, foresight and posting on a great site. =D
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Aug 26, 2011 2:45 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Thank you.
It’s clear that Broncos fans are knowledgeable, and knowledgeable fans are easy to write for.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 5:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Earl Thomas may be a future probowler but Alfonso Smith......never mind
Fun piece to read, thanks. Seahawk football brings back good memories for me. I make it to as many games in Seattle as possible. Nice field and the fans seem to be good people and are great fans. I still remember the ad slogan from 10-12 years ago, “ITS NOW TIME!”
I got to catch a Bronco game a decade ago or so in Husky stadium while Qwest was being built. As a kid my uncle took me up to a game at the Kingdome in a party bus. I was the only person rocking Bronco gear and all the adults were drinking and busting my balls with my Seahawk loving uncle leading the way. Largent jerseys are common place at family events.
Anyways, good luck this year.
luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan
Thank you.
Good luck to you guys, too. I’ve always kinda like the Broncos; more now that McDaniels is gone. Never got behind that guy.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions
OK, I know you were going for the rhyme scheme
But no way in hell a Seattle Seahawks fan would drink MGD.. Olympia OK, Deschutes..definately
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Thank you, Jacson, for your contribution . . .
All I can say is that I wish we would have taken Mebane away from you. :(
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BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!
No way.
Mebane is my-Bane.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Good stuff, thanks!
Well written, entertaining and informative. Always great to get fan perspective on another team (except Jokeland, because Raiders fans can’t read). Most of all I like civil, reasoned discourse with other fans.
Leave Tim Tebow alone. I don't hear him insulting YOUR footwork.
by TheMastermind on Aug 26, 2011 5:56 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks for having me.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions
It's not fair!
I was thinking this game will be a test fr our pass rushers, but if Tyler Polumbus is starting, then all bets are off…On a brighter note; You might see a colage of defensive alignments in this game, where nothing seems to be real. ur defensive coordinator Dennis Allen comes out the Greg Williams, Saints defense. Attacking will be the name of the game with Doom and Von off the edges along with Ayers. Ayers will slide inside of some plays and I hope to see Jason Hunter fill his spot with Von as the SAM. DJ Williams ur WILL is finally playing in a position that fits him the best and it hasn’t helped him playing under 6 different DCs in 6 years. He will be a threat to pressure the QB on certain plays too. Let’s not forget Champ Bailey as he will be taking on a new role as DB. He’ll be assigned the slot receiver on downs and Cassius Vaughn will fill his spot at LCB. Look fr pressure a couple of times from Champ. Then we have BDawk who will be spending a lot of time in the box and you never know when he will bust Tavarius’s head. So, there you have it, the 7 headed dragon coming at you. Have fun and enjoy the chaos…
Charlie Whitehurst...
With the benefit of time having now passed since the deal was done, can you give us the fan pulse on how or why that deal went down. More importantly, is Jackson really beating him bad enough to be your starter or is Whitehurst injured or something?
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Whitehurst has been a bit of an enigma
Not many fans were happy with the trade we made to get him, and he hasn’t done much to make us feel any better about it. The thing with Whitehurst is that he’s got all the skills (size, arm-strength, etc) but seems to lack the precision for mid-range routes or the touch for deep routes. Ergo, he has earned the nickname “Checkdown Charlie.”
The reason I’m not too worked up about either him or TJ is, like I said above, they are likely just placeholders who aren’t being expected to turn the franchise around.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions
More directly, I think Jackson should probably be the starter.
Although they probably win 6 games either way.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Six games?
Do you feel like that division has gotten tougher? Isn’t it widely perceived as the weakest division in football? Kolb in AZ might help, but that team is still action packed with issues everywhere. I guess the Rams are getting better, too, though.
Six wins as a prediction from a knowledge fan in a weak division and just a year removed from a playoff appearance is a pretty surprising prediction.
I hear opposing running backs laughing again - well, giggling at least. So where's the beef?!? Ignore this problem and I'm going to hold that against you... E, F and X. P.S. I'm already and still mad at you Little Vicky!
Unfortunately, the NFL weights schedules based on last year's performance.
It’s one reason that parity is so prevalent. Plus, NFC West teams comprise only 37.5% of our schedule, and even then I think STL, SF, and AZ have all improved incrementally.
Seattle’s punishment for stealing the division and a playoff game is to get a schedule who’s difficulty is directly proportionate to their “success” (ie, one of the final eight teams).
SEA’s out-of-division schedule includes @PIT, @NYG, @CHI, @DAL, PHI, BAL, and ATL.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions
This sounds eerily similar in tone
though not in specifics, to how Orton was viewed by many at MHR when he first arrived from Chicago. Check-downs, “noodle arm”, “game manager” were the specifics. Orton has, at least in my case, proven to have arrived somewhat better than advertised and then and able to improve. If we as a team can get the 3rd downs and redzone problems straightened up with KO at the helm, he will have made enough progress to totally justify his starter status, imo.
Orton is good.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions
I doubt he'll get the chance.
And that’s okay by me, honestly.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Jacson... this article was
FAN-TABULOUS!
Thanks man, enjoyed the creativity in the read.
Would love to see you guys pretty much run it up the gut on us most of the game, than we’ll really get to see how our new DC, LB-core and D-Line hold up. I’m very happy with Doom and V. Miller, but I think that the Buffalo Bills are – well, the Bills, and we really didn’t a good idea on how our D will hold up.
I’m affraid our D will be ok for the first half of the seaon, but will wear down as the season progresses because the line won’t be able to stop the run and our LB’s and secondary will tire.
Thanks again!
I'm curious to see how the interior running game does, too.
Our G-C-G combo (ah hell, our tackles too) seems to be better at run-blocking than they are in pass-protection. I’m bummed that BeasMo is sitting out, but both Washington and Forsett are pretty capable one-cut runners.
VonElvis is gonna go crazy though. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get 3 sacks between them (not each).
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions
They'll create some buzz those two...
They’ll create some buzz those two…
But the same song might be sung if that D-Line can’t hold up. 20 yard run up the middle, 12 yard run up the middle, 35 yard touchdown – up the middle. Von-Doom will be great pass rushers, but the best way to avoid that is to run up the gut.
We shall see.
But again, freakin sweet read man!
by OverDilusions on Aug 26, 2011 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Thank you.
I hope VonElvis doesn’t murder anyone tomorrow.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 26, 2011 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
They'll create some buzz those two...
But the same song might be sung if that D-Line can’t hold up. 20 yard run up the middle, 12 yard run up the middle, 35 yard touchdown – up the middle. Von-Doom will be great pass rushers, but the best way to avoid that is to run up the gut.
We shall see.
But again, freakin sweet read man!
Because we will have better coaching
I believe we wont see as many of those plays that you just mentioned. I think our run defense will be middle of the pack this year, maybe leaning towards the lower half though. But not nearly as awful as it was last year
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
I am beginning to hate SB Nation
I have to wait 3 days to comment on a inter-blogshphere post on the matchup. Yea Monday is the perfect day to start the commenting.
Second every time I open a new tab I have to curse out that annoying pull down ad ‘Sign up for Newsletter’
by Sergio AppleSeed on Aug 26, 2011 11:04 PM MDT reply actions
I'll rec when you find something better.
SBN has been a God-send to me since long before I started writing for them.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 27, 2011 1:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Agree with you there.
It’s kind of like having to wait before you actually a gun, gives you a chance to think before you do something stupid. It’s not fool proof because even fools can be determined to get their way, but it’s the best thing I can think of.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Aug 27, 2011 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Good info - thanks!
Though truthfully it took a bit to recover from your Jeff Reed / douche post! Good stuff, and happy to say that we’ve avoided much in the way of kicker drama here for many a year.
You got it!
Enjoy the game.
I've got ridiculous upside.
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by Jacson Bevens on Aug 27, 2011 1:37 AM MDT up reply actions

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