Drew Brees has Tebow's Back, says Kyle walked in Tebow's Shoes

by Trinity15 on Aug 26, 2011 5:44 PM MDT

It seems the more negativity that some in the sports media or retired NFL players put out about Tim Tebow playing and/or starting in the NFL...all of course prefacing their scalding remarks with "I really like Tebow as a person or I'm a Christian too but..."

has brought out another Superbowl winning MVP Quarterback to inject some positivity into the discussion and stop the nonsense - Drew Brees.

He basically echoed Joe Montana's sentiments by saying he wouldn't mess with Tebow's mechanics too much at this level, noting that every guy throws the ball differently and has his own style. The best part was that Brees stated very clearly: that all Tebow needed was investment of development into the things he didn't do alot of in college...dropbacks and progression reads. Brees stated it is a matter of repetition and experience:

The more he gets of that, the better he will get at those things.

"And then obviously the guy has a ton of ability, a ton of athletic ability, leadership ability. It seems like he has all the intangibles. Now it's just a matter of him getting the reps and experience he needs to refine his game a little bit." - USA Today

Come on. You know Tebow was pumped after reading that after this week. Drew Brees trumps Boomer, Beurlein, Hoge and Cowherd any day of the week. The man said "Now it's just a matter of him getting the reps and experience he needs to refine his game a little bit." There! Somebody with a Superbowl ring an MVP trophy currently playing QB finally said it!

Brees then likened Kyle Orton's journey in the NFL to Tim Tebow's.

"Look at Kyle's situation from his Chicago Bears days ... Rex Grossman and then Kyle would start and play well, but then it was always you have to compete with Rex again (in the) offseason for the job. Kyle would do it and win the job.
"I think Kyle has been one of those guys over the course of his seven-year career right now who's had to fight for everything he's gotten. He's had to earn it all along the way. Here he is in a situation right now where maybe he's kind of going up against a younger version of himself in a little way. - USA Today

Kyle beat out Grossman back then and Tebow is a younger version of himself...or he will be with more reps and experience.

With the athleticism and intangible Brees noted in Tebow, Tebow has the potential to be even better. No wonder Drew Brees is a Saint.

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Can’t get enough? Only one Super Bowl MVP has an opinion that counts – that’s Tim’s boss’s boss. Till then it is time to get ready for the 2011 season and put this conversation on hold til 2012. GO BRONCOS

by Flunkie on Aug 26, 2011 5:55 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs

As long as people like Boomer, Beurlein and anybody with a pen calling themselves a Sportswriter is tossing out negativity towards Tebow, it's good that Drew Brees tossed out Positvity in response

"There's only one person who carries the ball right here..."

by Trinity15 on Aug 26, 2011 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions

What if they had a war and nobody came?

Guys like boomer et al say the stuff they say because they generate reactions – quit reacting and they quit saying.

by Flunkie on Aug 26, 2011 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions

Negativity is counteracted with Positivity. Drew Brees knocked down "et al" because it was necessary.

"There's only one person who carries the ball right here..."

by Trinity15 on Aug 26, 2011 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions

or maybe.....

Drew Brees has a football opinion….. Just like Hoge… And Boomer have football opinions….

by Damon322 on Aug 27, 2011 12:44 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs

MADMAN!

Everyone has opinions, fans just like opinions that side with them. If Hoge had liked Tebow, he’d be popular on MHR, same with Boomer. Every player, analyst and fan has an opinion and the freedom to express them, that’s the beauty of sports.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Aug 27, 2011 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions

But I think the issue has more to do with the accuracy of the information used to support said opinions...

and the tone and absolute manner in which those opinions are being stated.

Abe Lincoln is generally known as one of the most honest and kind-hearted men ever to grace the presidency of these great United States.

But let’s say my opinion is that he was the most vile and dishonest human ever to walk the face of the planet. And let’s say that I am attacking him and stating that he will never be a good president under any circumstance.

Now, is that really acceptable? Is it defensible given what we actually know about Abe Lincoln?

We certainly do not know if Tebow will become a great, or even a good, NFL QB but he has already demonstrated enough suuccess in his limited playing time to clearly establish that he may become good or great. Therefore, it is obvious that some opinions are way extreme and beyond the realm of reason based upon the facts and that’s the issue I have with the matter.

If Hoge, Esiason, et.al. want to say they think he will never be a good NFL QB then that’s just fine. But to flat out state that he will never, under any circumstance, belong on the field as an NFL QB is simply hogwash and blatantly inaccurate.

"It is our attitude at the beginning of a difficult task which, more than anything else, will affect its successful outcome." - William James

by FloridaFan62 on Aug 27, 2011 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions

I totally agree

But I see both sides doing it, I’ve seen people like Hoge say Tebow can’t succeed, but then I see people saying there is no way Tebow will fail. So it really is just opinion, and while we all disagree with someone, people are free to say what they think, even if it is extreme, we can just ignore them, but we shouldn’t turn extreme on the other side and, like some, say there is no way Tebow can fail. That’s the thing about opinions, they are often crazy, wrong, or just weird.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Aug 27, 2011 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yes, I agree with you on that. Too many absolutes being thrown around on both sides of the debate.

"It is our attitude at the beginning of a difficult task which, more than anything else, will affect its successful outcome." - William James

by FloridaFan62 on Aug 28, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions

Agreed. Good to see some former (and current) QB's that have no media connection stick up for him

It is quite clear that the writers are trying to one-up each other in tearing this kid down. Brees also has the perspective of being the incumbent being pushed to being better (Rivers). He for one could see how this is a result, or at least partly, of Orton stepping it up, not because of Tebow falling.

by boanst on Aug 27, 2011 6:20 PM MDT up reply actions

Nice find, Trinity

Always nice to hear sane conversation coming from Brees’ direction. He’s a class act and, unlike the media, isn’t trying to attract attention or page clicks or anything of the sort.

As far as “putting the conversation on hold until 2012;” that’s not necessary. POSITIVE comments about a BRONCO PLAYER from former Super Bowl MVP’s are ALWAYS WELCOME!!!!

GO BRONCOS!

Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."

by BroncTastic on Aug 26, 2011 6:29 PM MDT reply actions

Only QBs with a negative outlook on Tebow have opinions that matter.

I know, you're a better fan than me.

by plainview88 on Aug 26, 2011 6:53 PM MDT reply actions

No, they all matter.

The problem is, pundits profit from going to the extreme on any issue. Create emotional outrage and you create interest and revenue.

The reality – as it has always been – is that Tebow isn’t ready to start this year, but will benefit from a full year and another offseason of development. He should be ready by 2012.

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by Tim Lynch on Aug 26, 2011 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions

I detected sarcasm in that post

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson

by Calikula on Aug 26, 2011 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

You never know...it might be sooner than that...and the key is that he get real development

"There's only one person who carries the ball right here..."

by Trinity15 on Aug 26, 2011 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions

I had to laugh tday watching Cwturd when asked about Cam Newton's performace last night.

He hesitated fr moment before he spoke and I know he had Tebow on his mind…Priceless.

by bfree2bronc on Aug 26, 2011 6:55 PM MDT reply actions

ha ha....

"There's only one person who carries the ball right here..."

by Trinity15 on Aug 26, 2011 7:15 PM MDT up reply actions

Who is CWturd?

Is that Merril Hog(e)?

by OverDilusions on Aug 26, 2011 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions

It's Colin Cowherd

Hoge is just as annoying.

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by weazel on Aug 26, 2011 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions

Lebron, Brees, Dungy, Ditka, Montana, et al, ESSENTIAL REACTION

because most busy people don’t have the time or inclination to check out sensationalism so thay believe something they hear going around a lot. Getting two sources (or evidence) before writing something is a rare occurence these days.

If knowledgeable people, or people whose tongue does’t wag without evidence, don’t speak up yellow journalism will become the dominant way to find the truth.

The dilemma is that speaking up fuels the conflict and increases the number of clicks and the cycle keeps repeating.

I haven’t heard a good solution being offered for the dilemma.

Has anyone else got any ideas?

by drmick3 on Aug 27, 2011 8:44 AM MDT reply actions

only one

great play by Orton and the Denver Offense will push Tebow off the front page and reignite the Cutler trade debate. If the offense faulters then expect to be living with this debate until one or the other (Tebow or Orton) is gone.

by Flunkie on Aug 27, 2011 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions

Neither one of those situations will reignite the Cutler trade debate...the only thing that could is if Cutler takes the Bears to the playoffs or the SuperBowl

"There's only one person who carries the ball right here..."

by Trinity15 on Aug 27, 2011 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions

There is no perfect solution only a way to combat an attack...unfortunately if Negative People want war then you can watch them have their way or put them down fighting the good fight

Flunkie is one of the most prolific and vocal nay sayers and yet he suggests that supporters say nothing when Drew Brees speaks up for Tim Tebow. massive eyeroll

You can’t head off negative people or stop their negativity because they won’t stop. The only thing you can do is combat negativity with positivity.

In the age of news at the speed of light and instant and constant social networking it is imperative to get positivity out there because negative people are spreading their version as if its fact…even if it’s not true or not happened.

The power of life and death is in the tongue. I’m glad Drew Brees was speaking life to Tebow’s situation and that definitely needed to be put out there to blast all the negativity by a QB like him.

Last night during the Green Bay v. Colts preseason game Rich Gannon again made the case for Tim Tebow. He used a comparison of Tebow’s situation to the growth of Aaron Rodgers! They even showed tape of how Rodgers used to throw in college compared to now.

So, Brees, Gannon, Montana, Collinsworth there are guys speaking positivity to combat negativity. You just fight the good fight and you know who wins those fights.

"There's only one person who carries the ball right here..."

by Trinity15 on Aug 27, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

Well ... nay sayer?

My position all along has been Tebow is not ready to take the helm this year – which is what Brees also says. My reactions come against those that want Tebow to start this year. I enjoy watching TT play and see many exciting things to look forward to. I also see many of the mistakes he is making that need to be ironed out before he gets the start. Never once have I written that Tebow will not make it in the NFL or even with the Broncos.

You want to talk about his intangibles, his ethic, his dedication, the ability to elevate the play of those around him, or even his potential: you will get no arguement from me. Only when you suggest that he is currently better prepared to lead the Broncos than Kyle Orton will you get an arguement. I want wins this year. I want the playoffs, this year. I want respect, this year. The best chance to do that is with Kyle Orton. Given an additional year to learn and develop, next year it could very well be Tebow – behind a better and more mature O-line with a seasoned supporting staff.

by Flunkie on Aug 27, 2011 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions 4 recs

Even Drew Brees had Tebow's back

Drew Brees didn’t say he couldn’t be a starter this season. Brees stated that “it is a matter of him getting the reps and experience he needs to refine his game a bit.” Now, I’m not suggesting his statement was in favor of starting Tebow over Orton, but it certainly wasn’t a vote for no reps or experience to refine his game just a bit by sitting on the bench watching Orton. Of course development can come with the coaches outside of games but Brees is talking about repetition in the game and game time experience and practice.

I also see many of the mistakes he is making that need to be ironed out before he gets the start.

For me, part of what you are talking about needs to be ironed out by playing…starting like Colt McCoy. The other part won’t require a year on the bench to improve.

Only when you suggest that he is currently better prepared to lead the Broncos than Kyle Orton will you get an arguement. I want wins this year. I want the playoffs, this year. I want respect, this year. The best chance to do that is with Kyle Orton.

I’ve said many times…bring on “The Orton Thing” Let him prove he is a winner.
He’s got you convinced…now all he has to do is do it!

"There's only one person who carries the ball right here..."

by Trinity15 on Aug 27, 2011 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions

The whole sitting on the bench argument, with regards to Tebow, is insane....

Learn by sitting behind an average QB who will only be a here a season….not even the same as the Rivers, Rodgers, Young situations….

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!

by boydy2669 on Aug 27, 2011 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions

Tebow is not the same as anyone ....

The challenges he faces are no where near the same as Rivers, Rodgers, Young ect ….

I am not necessarily of the school that he has to change his mechanics, but he does have to improve his footwork significantly, he needs to work on his accuracy significantly, he needs to work on taking snaps, he needs to learn NFL defenses. These are all things he can work on during the week. One needs look no farther than Brady Quinn to see just how much can be accomplished without live action.

I appears there are a few different thoughts on Tim Tebow: Some think he will never make in as an NFL QB – I am not in that school of thought. Some believe that he is gods gift to football – I am not in that school. Some just hate Kyle Orton and see anything as an improvement – not in that school. Some are willing to feild less than the best team we can this year in order to develop and/or test drive Tebow for next year – blowing off a whole season for the sake of any one player is total insanity in my opinion.

Fox is not building a team around Kyle Orton – He is building a team that will enable all players to succeed to their fullest. Waiting until he is reasonably ready gives Tebow the best chance to succeed.

Last I check Kyle had not signed any contracts for next year – claiming to know he will not be here implies you know something even Kyle himself does not know.

by Flunkie on Aug 27, 2011 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions