Denver Broncos Snapshots: Pass Rush Against the Seattle Seahawks
The Denver Broncos beat the Seattle Seahawks 23-20 on Saturday night, improving their preseason record against the Seahawks to 8-1. The Broncos own the Seahawks. With a preseason winning percentage of .888888888...... it's hard to ignore the obvious.
During the game, there were a number of things that jumped out at me. What stood out the most, however, was the pass rush. I know... I know... way to pick the obvious one, Troy. But honestly, I believe that I was able to capture the effectiveness of the Denver Broncos pass rush with just one simple image. Is it a picture of Von Miller sacking Tavaris Jackson? Nope. Is it Elvis Dumervil sacking Tavaris Jackson? Nope.
It's this...
If you'll notice, there's something strange about the offensive formation on this 3rd and 10 play. Let me zoom in, just in case you can't see it.
Can you find Waldo? It's the Tight End at the bottom of the formation. His name is Zach Miller (former Oakland Raider) and his responsibility on this play is to block Elvis Dumervil in an obvious passing situation. I'll be honest, when I was watching the broadcast for the first time, I laughed out loud. Just look at how far back he is. Look at it. He is 3 yards off the line of scrimmage.
I laughed.... oh, how I laughed...
But then I thought about it for a while and realized that this is the perfect pictorial display of how effective the Denver Broncos pass rush is. This is the ultimate level of respect. Put yourself in the shoes of Elvis Dumervil, for a second. How can you tell if you're an outstanding speed rusher? Easy... the 2010 pro bowl tight end lined up across from you is conceding 3 yards of real estate, pre-snap, so that you won't be able to dip your shoulder and go around him.
Let me also remind you that this snapshot was taken on the third defensive play of the game. Yes, the THIRD play. Would you like to see what happened on second down that made the Seahawks realize that the Broncos were ready, willing and able to break Tarvaris Jackson in half? Here you go....
Doesn't that picture give you chills? Elvis Dumervil and Von Miller bearing down on the quarterback while both offensive tackles look on with contrite resignation, one of whom is down on one knee. Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil had their hands on Tarvaris Jackson more than they had their hands on their blockers. That's hardly hyperbole, either. I'm pretty sure that these two players were having races against each other on Saturday to see which one could sack the quarterback first. Sometimes, it was a tie...
That's something that I am excited to see more of when the regular season begins.
Anyways, after this second down play, the Seahawks realize that they cannot block Elvis Dumervil. He's too quick. The Broncos have two edge rushers that are as fast as lightning. To account for this, the Seahawks had Zach Miller line up across from Dumervil, essentially next to the quarterback, Tavaris Jackson. This mitigates Doom's ability to dip his shoulder and get around him. Smart move by the Seahawks protection.
However, the Seahawks didn't take into account how strong Elvis Dumervil is. To demonstrate this, let me show you a before and after of the 3rd and 10 play. The before is a snapshot of when Dumervil and Miller first make contact. The after is a snapshot of how far Miller is pushed backwards in the course of about a second and a half.
You can see that Von Miller almost makes the sack on Tarvaris Jackson, in this frame, but take notice of where Elvis Dumervil is standing when all this happens. By my rough estimate, he pushed Miller from about the 21 and a half yard line of the nearside hash marks to the 18 yard line of the far side hash marks. With some quick pythagorean theorum calculations (knowing that hash marks are 18 feet, 6 inches wide), we can estimate that Dumervil pushed Zach Miller about 21 feet (7 yards) during this play. About 2 seconds ticked off the clock during this time. Dumervil pushed Miller 3.5 yards per second or 10.5 feet per second.
Versatility is what makes him dangerous. Offensive linemen can't handle his speed rush, while tight ends and runningbacks can't handle his strength.
My advice to opposing offensive coordinators would be this: Stay out of 3rd and long unless you have Von Miller or Elvis Dumervil on your fantasy football team.
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Excellent Analysis
The visual aids were fantastic as well, great work!
dude I cannot wait
for them to unload on QBs this year. This is going to be a fun season!
Thanks for the post, I’ll be floating all day now
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Good job, Troy
Those pictures accompanied by the analysis are great.
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by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 29, 2011 11:25 AM MDT reply actions
Very nice
I love that DCs have to decide which one to focus on, as there just aren’t enough players on the field to target both Von and Doom.
It’s like you’re watching a future train wreck approaching in slow motion with your car stuck on the tracks. You’ve only got enough time to save one of your kids. Either way, it’s going to be ugly and someone’s gonna get killed.
We need a techie to change the words in that Black Eyed Peas song 'Boom Boom Pow' to make it like our battle cry
Gotta get that Von Doom Boom. Gotta get that Von Doom Pow
Ya'll gettin' hit with the Von Doom
Kepp gettin' hit with the Von Doom
(Sounds a lot better with a beat instead of a keypad :)
You mean the OCs of course?
Less mobil quarterbacks like Brady for instance may struglle against our pass rush if everybody else does their job.
by bfree2bronc on Aug 29, 2011 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
yep OCs =)
We need a techie to change the words in that Black Eyed Peas song 'Boom Boom Pow' to make it like our battle cry
Gotta get that Von Doom Boom. Gotta get that Von Doom Pow
Ya'll gettin' hit with the Von Doom
Kepp gettin' hit with the Von Doom
(Sounds a lot better with a beat instead of a keypad :)
brings flashbacks to mind
VonDoom reminds me of a time when we had Meck and Rulon Jones, albeit a different front 3-4, but watching teams have to chose their poison on who to block is a great thing to watch.
"Dumervil pushed Miller 3.5 yards per second or 10.5 feet per second."
And by calculating my size vs. Miller’s… I would’ve been pushed roughly 100 feet per second.
Dumervil’s a scary man.
Great write up and analysis Troy. Looking forward to these two terrorizing QB’s for years to come.
by Matt In Canada on Aug 29, 2011 11:48 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
hahaha, highly rec'd.
Math is fun!
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Laws of Physics
Ok, keep in mind that a world class sprinter running 100 meters in 10 seconds (world record is around 9 seconds, 9.2 last time I checked but I think its been lowered since then and 10 is easier to calculate) is only running at 32.8 feet per second. So being pushed at 100 feet per second defies the laws of physics no matter what Matt in Canada weighs. But it does make for a great image. Whoosh! Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap past tall OLs in a single bound, its VonDoomMan!
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by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 29, 2011 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions
I would buy that comic book. I really would.
The enemy would be Philip Rivers and the San Diego Dolts.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
The fact that Doom pushed Zach Miller about 1/3 as fast as a world class sprinter can run flat out is scary indeed.
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by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 29, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Three practice weeks
and a tune up against Rodgers before we get to to watch Joan Rivers being lectured at the Sack Academy!
Could take off
I smell a poll coming (Orange Crush, Orange Crush II, Orange Rush, other).
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by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 29, 2011 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Troy my man...outstanding post
I love seeing good visual stuff like this. I’m pumped about our D this year if you can’t tell from my comments and posts…
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I would also like to note:
That Big Vick is pushing a double team 3.5 yards back in that same 2 second time period (last 2 pics) and that just leaves me with a smile!
by InRodWeTrust on Aug 29, 2011 12:39 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Think about it
Offense has to add protection for QB which reduces his targets and there waiting are: Champ, Dawkins, and gang.
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by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 29, 2011 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Inrod.... fully agree. I'm stoked about our rush. I hope that the
middle of the line holds up, if so then we will be a terror! My only fear is that our middle gets soft and they begin to exploit it by letting our outside guys go way wide and that will open up some big lanes between the ends and the tackles. It will take aggressive, yet disciplined play by our tackles and our MLB.
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by rubincarterrocks on Aug 29, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
nice breakdown man.
Super exited to see what these guys can do against ‘better’ oposition
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by Teboner on Aug 29, 2011 12:41 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
My thoughts exactly. lol
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Totally Agree!
When the #1s are playing, I’m more excited to watch the D get back on the field than I am the O. VonDoom are going to wreak havok this year.
It’s funny though, because when the #2’s get in the game, I couldn’t care less about the D and end up only wanting to watch the O and the whole Tebow/Quinn situation. I guess MSM really does end up rubbing off on people…
by BroncoMike87 on Aug 29, 2011 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions
2nd Down Picture is just Outstanding
What a great shot of Von and Doom heading for their prey.
Every QB in the league is going to be seeing this in their nightmares.
Awesome!
You really didnt just use the pythagorean theorum…must be a first in MHR history. Love it!!!
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If anybody out there tells you that pythagorean theorum is useless and has no application to the "real world"... show them this article.
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Now, someone derive that equation.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions
But if you really like equations, check out the MHR article about the quarterback rating. That was a doozy...
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice breakdown post Troy.
It’s scary how good those two are. That picture of Doom and Miller ready to sandwich Jackson is scary. Jackson is probably thinking oh @$&%. That is the first time I have seen a guy line up that much off the line and still get pushed back. This is going to be fun watching those two.
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by weazel on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
What I can't wait for is......
the game against Chicago and the swiss cheese O-line they prop up in front of Cutler!!!
It should be a little bit of pay back!!!
The article and write up were a great lunch time read.
by jeffrod on Aug 29, 2011 1:49 PM MDT reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd for giving me an excellent mental image of Jay Cutler being crushed between Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Do you know what looks good on Phallus Rivers?..
.. Von Dooooommm!!!
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by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM MDT reply actions
I'd rec this twice if I could . . .
it’s just the kind of excellent analysis you almost never get from the MSM. Good job, Troy. I’ll admit I was disappointed when they drafted Miller instead of Dareus, but they obviously saw the termendous potential of this pairing with Doom. Shows why they’re running a football team and I’m not . . .
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Same here. I posted an article the morning of the draft saying that I didn't want the Broncos to take Miller.
I saw him as a 3-4 OLB and not a 4-3 LB. I didn’t think he’d fit the scheme, but the Broncos are using him on 3rd downs like a blitzing 3-4 OLB, anyways… so I guess I was wrong and right at the same time?
I don’t really care if I’m wrong or right, though. I’m just excited to see how scary this pass rush is.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Good stuff man!
I hadn’t even noticed the early play with Zach Miller so far back as a blocker. Hah. Talk about respect. And that was before the Broncos had racked up a bunch of sacks and hurries on Seattle QBs. Hope those two guys stay healthy. And imagine how this gives Ayers more opps as well, and Dawkins and Moore and other potential blitzers.
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Absolutely. That second down play that I referenced in the article ended with Ayers knocking Jackson to the turf.
He’ll get his sacks. Trust me. The pressure comes from everywhere.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
If You Need A Good Laugh
Read the Seahawks Game Thread from FieldGulls:
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2011/8/27/2388521/seahawks-vs-broncos-game-thread
Those guys could not believe how VonDoom keep meeting at the QB. Someone thought it must be a Jedi mind trick.
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I tried to warn them last Friday...
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2011/8/26/2384587/the-opposing-viewpoint-denver-broncos
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions
your right it was funny!
“Yay, we got the turnover and our offense is taking over”
“Awwww, we got the turnover and our offense is taking over”
“I wouldn’t be suprised if TJ said, fuck this and quit.”
“He is getting killed w/ pressure.”
“I sure do love watching Von Miller cause Carpenter to backpedal himself back into T-Jack.”
“It’s like he’s using the Force or some arcane magic to control Carpenter’s mind and body or something.”
glad our team isnt in shambles like that
it could be much worse
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OK, so if I understand this...
the counter to a strong outside rush is running plays up the middle, screens and swing pases. With our recent injuries and original thinness at DT, are we going to see a lot more of those kinds of plays and how do you think we’re doing and will do?
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
Yes. We will. Screens and draws.
What we need to do is have great awareness from the defensive line and solid tackling with our corners and linebackers.
And to defend draws, you just do what Doom did against the Bills. Meet the QB and RB as they’re trying to make the exchange.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Highlight reel
Von Miller gets between opposing QB and RB and actually takes the hand-off the other way.
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by OrangeandBluesBros on Aug 29, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
The crazy thing is that I don't see that as being outside the range of possibilities. They really ARE that good.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
The best thing for Dumervil
Moving to the 4-3 and having an aggressive defensive coordinator was the best thing that could happen for Elvis Dumervil, we all saw what he did with Mike Nolan but that was weighing 245 pounds, now that is he up to 260 he has 15 pounds of muscle on his frame to help him move offensive linemen about and it shows. The extra tonage is helping him against the run, his problem was always that he could be move too easily to clear a lane for the run, but with the extra pounds and his natural leverage he is going to do a much better job of getting in front of his blocker and not giving up ground.
Dumervil has a very fast first step, he has very long arms and a low center of gravity, this means he can go on the outside so tackles will end up having to cheat to avoid him running around the corner on 5 and 7 step drop pass plays, but he also has leverage and strength to take on a tackle who cheats to the outside if Dumervil is going inside.
Von Miller is lightning fast, even when the tackle knows he is coming and knows he is coming wide, he struggles to keep up. We have faced probably the two worst offensive lines in football the last 2 games, but in terms of pass rush we have been beating them like rented red-headed mules.
I'm going to be the first (I think) to say this...
…but I was impressed with Jason Campbell and the first string offense for Oakland against the Saints. And that was without their starting receivers or McFadden.
Monday night is going to be a real test. But I’m also not going to panic if we get run on if it happens without DJ, Thomas, and Bunkley.
Vickerson looks pretty good when he maintains his gap, and he’s definitely getting a push upfield. Ayers is stout. But all it’s going to take is a little gap for McFadden to exploit, and I’m not sure yet that Jarmon (potential) or McBean (hit and miss) are up to the task.
Pressley looked good when he played. I’m hoping we strike gold on the waiver wire, frankly. That’s how we got Vickerson, after all, and he’s a good rotational player.
by JeffG on Aug 29, 2011 2:54 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Great breakdown Troy! I hope you can point these things out all season, and into the post-season!
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by Robb Yeager on Aug 29, 2011 3:48 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I would love to do a few playoff edition posts like this! Love it!
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Playoffs are epic
you ought to try them college football
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by the new Bradfather on Aug 29, 2011 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions
“My advice to opposing offensive coordinators would be this: Stay out of 3rd and long unless you have Von Miller or Elvis Dumervil on your fantasy football team.”
GREAT LINE. LOL
Thanks. That's a Troy Hufford original. lol
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Love the visual analysis troy thankyou !
What concerns me is the same old Question every year
Can these guys do this late in november through december ?
You know what i mean ? And i know i know this seems diffrent and better and
dont get me wrong i am happy and all but we have seen quick starts from our
defense before only to fade away to an embarrassing defensive NFL ranking by the
end of the season . I truly hope this time its fore real that we are the power house
defense that can play when the weather turns cold and fight for there rite to make the
playoffs .
by broncosfaninphilly on Aug 29, 2011 4:33 PM MDT reply actions
That's a great question. Unfortunately, I won't be able to answer that until November or December...
It’ll be fun to find out, though.
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by Troy Hufford on Aug 29, 2011 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions
This
is why I am so excited about this team.
Say hello to my fast...
Off Topic
But Tank Tyler and Vernon Gholston are available?
Tyler might actually be a good fit.
Excellent post, Troy! Rec'd
I’m thrilled to death with VonDoom. We’ve been missing this for far too long!
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Awesome post Troy!
Thanks for breaking it down a little for us. GREAT post man!
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Looks like teams will be trying to stop the V.D. OUTBREAK this year haha.
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by MiamiMike on Aug 29, 2011 8:52 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
WOW, Troy..
best use of snapshots to illustrate analytic points I have ever seen….,but even more impressive is the analysis in the first place. Another Rec.
Awesome post.
Great analysis. I am sooooo excited for the real season to start. Let’s see what these guys can do against good teams in situations that count.
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My question is
how could Orton, our barely-mobile quarterback, manage to look good against such a rushing attack in TC? If anything, maybe we’ll see some improvement in Orton’s ability to respond to the pass rush after having to deal with VonDoom all August.
That could also be a big statement about our OL :)
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