Several Injured Broncos Remain Out
by John Bena on Sep 15, 2011 11:42 AM MDT
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While we all try to put the Monday Night debacle behind us, it becomes increasingly hard to do when reminders of the physical beating the Broncos took continue to slam into us. As the Denver Post has reported, all of the injured Denver Broncos missed practice this morning, meaning it is becoming more and more likely that the Broncos could be significantly short-handed when the Cincinnati Bengals come to town on Sunday.
The Broncos are still without the services of Ty Warren, Demaryius Thomas, Marcus Thomas and D.J. Williams. Those players haven't been available for awhile. The Broncos took a beating Monday night, too, with the team arguably losing their best offensive(Brandon Lloyd, Knowshon Moreno) and defensive(Champ Bailey, Elvis Dumervil) to injury Monday night.
It is Dumervil's injury that worries me the most. A muscle strain in his shoulder, Dumervil relies on using his long arms to keep bigger offensive lineman off him when rushing opposing quarterbacks. As we saw Monday night, if Doom cannot use his arms he can not be effective, making the job harder on rookie Von Miller.
There is still tomorrow, of course, but the Broncos will likely be shorthanded somewhere - if not on both sides of the ball.
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Do you think its better to start Doom, if he can possibly go at all, or sit him if he isnt 100% to keep from aggravating his injury?
..We're 0-16 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
I would sit him until he is ready
if he is one of the better DE in the league, why risk further injury. It is not like this games is going to be crucial for the broncos to go to the super bowl.
by Keyworthpunch on Sep 15, 2011 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Only the doctors know that answer, but if they think he can be fully healthy in a week or two, I would sit him.
by EddieRoyalwithCheese on Sep 15, 2011 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Definitely sit until he's ready
Doom is too valuable to risk worse injuries when this team isn’t a playoff contender (yet).
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
Completing the answers above...
Jason Hunter played very well on MNF. He was one of the few who did it.
I bleed Orange & Blue.
by Fabio Broncos on Sep 15, 2011 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions
he had our only sack. so i agree with with this assessment.
..We're 0-16 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
Moreno one of our better offensive players?????
I am on board with Lloyd and defensively doom and champ. No way Moreno is one of our better offensive players. As always my opinion.
by Keyworthpunch on Sep 15, 2011 12:04 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Moreno has yet to show me that he’s a primary back. He’s a great weapon the likes of Reggie Bush…a third down threat. He has great pass protection and runs great in space. But he does not do great as the primary ball carrier running behind the line.
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
Exactly
What he does, he does well. It is just that he does not do everything well ;)
by Keyworthpunch on Sep 15, 2011 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Name 1 RB that did better than Moreno in the game?
He froze 2 defenders in a great catch and run! Yes he is one of our best offensive weapons. Period.
Von Miller and Dumervil are basically racing to see who's first to the QB...Love this feeling!!!
I'm with you on that
That plays to his strengths and what he does well.
I want him to keep doing that…but I want us to go get a legitimate 1st – 2nd down back.
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
so maybe when the offensive line creates space(holes) he can run through them.
He might not be the best primary runner, but his pass-blocking is good, and his receiving skills are great. Running successful screens with Moreno essentially supplants a running game. As long as he gets yards, and produces. I dont care.
..We're 0-16 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
ok im really dumb, because i just restated your entire comment.... DUH LOL
..We're 0-16 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
McGahee might be
better as the every down tailback, he did only have 100 carries last year for the Ravens and he looked sharp against the Raiders.
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 15, 2011 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions
hes older though and might not be able to handle a full workload. but he may be able to produce.
..We're 0-16 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
He can do it...but the concern for him is injuries
I don’t know if he can be the guy the whole season long.
And let me say this: Yeah Ball did a good job on his TD, but he SUCKS running the rock. No vision, very little burst. The answer isn’t on our team right now.
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
In his third season Moreno is showing every week why he is a bust in the NFL...
He does not have the tenacity and phyicality to be the great back like Peterson or even CJ who is smaller? Wasted pick was on McDaniels…
Moreno
is a decent pass catcher who can be a threat out of the backfield. He’s a fairly good third down back who can be effective in space.
But…..
He has difficulty keeping his feet when cutting. He lacks the power necessary to be an effective short yardage back. He doesn’t have particularly impressive breakaway speed. He has had injury trouble throughout his professional career and doesn’t have near the toughness needed to be a feature back in the NFL.
Sadly, and through no fault of his own, Moreno will always be judged through the prism of the lofty expectations of the twelfth overall pick in the draft. By this standard, Moreno has been a serious disappointment.
What should've been an easy home win
is looking tougher each day
Raiders suck
Chargers are whiny douches
Chiefs are meh
If you believe that should have been an easy home win
you are sadly mistaken my friend. There are no gimme’s in the NFL. The raiders have had talent on their team nearly every year. Their biggest problem is themselves and getting them to play as a football team and not a bunch of felons. Top that off with the fact that they are our archrivals and you can throw easy right out the window. I don’t ever remember an easy game against them in fact.
Unless by chance I totally missed your point and you weren’t speaking of the raiders. If that was the case, please disregard everything but the second sentence. =)
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Fox is the wrong guy and so is Orton
It is hard to find much to like about this team. Bronco’s looked even worse than I thought they would. Except Orton, he looked just the way I remembered him. PLEASE don’t start Doom before he is ready.
by fiverolledtacos on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM MDT reply actions
Why is fox already the wrong guy. This roster needs a major overhaul
by always broncs on Sep 15, 2011 12:39 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed. we only have 1 game to judge fox by.
we have games to judge our players, specifically Orton, by.
..We're 0-16 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
All new head coaches get a bye in their first year...
it’s nearly impossible for a guy like Fox or anybody else to come in and in one year fix the who team. What John Fox has done so far in this shortened year is fantastic and kinda like the Chef Impossible. Yes we will struggle as players define their roles and identity, but the direction we are heading is a good one. Note Steve Spagnuolo in St Louis, he was hired the same year McDaniels was and it has taken them three years to get to where they are now and they aren’t there yet. It takes time and patience is needed to keep our sanity…
Whoa....
A little early to come to that conclusion, isn’t it? One game? This will be a long process. I’m afraid the the Broncos are in for a long rebuilding process after having been subject to some serious mismanagement. No shortcuts now. Patience is the only way. Unless he is an epic disaster of McDanielseque (I mean down right biblical) proportions, Fox will get three years at a minimum.
Anyone else annoyed by the way MSM is handling the Orton/Tebow thing...
I have been listening to chatter and the way “experts” have been characterizing bronco fans. Listening to them talk about how Orton played Monday Night, it makes me think Orton had the 500 yard and multiple TD passing game. I know Orton made some great throws. I remember seeing a few and saying to myself, “Wow..I wonder if Tebow can make that kind of throw”. He also missed a lot of passes. The thing is, you could make a highlight tape showing him to be an elite passer or buffon. To talk about the one without the other is not being honest. Losing in football is a team effort, but Orton certainly did not avail himself of the opportunities to win it.
The “chatter” also keeps harping on how “Orton gives the broncos the best chance to win”. I believe this, if Orton plays at a high level. If Orton does not play at a high level, for him, his weaknesses become even more apparent. I know Orton is not responsible for all the losses while he as been the starter. There is a history with Orton as a starting QB with the broncos that can not be ignored. The chatter keeps talking about “one game”, but the truth is bronco fans have seen many games with Orton at QB. Show me any other situation where a starting QB has tremendous fan support with the record Orton has posted while starting in Denver? My point is, is it so unreasonable after the record he has posted in Denver for some fans to not be thrilled with his position as starting QB?
If Orton is so good, where were all these “experts” when Denver was trying to trade him? Why weren’t they vilifying the organization for trying to move him? Why weren’t they tearing other teams apart for not wanting to part with a second round draft choice for Orton? Not exactly models of consistency. When many fans wanted him traded, well that was okay. Now those same fans who don’t want him to start are idiots?
Which gets to Tebow. All the experts keep chirping “Denver can’t win with Tebow”. But we can with a quarterback that it was okay for us to trade and it was okay for no other team, even those who needed a QB, to be wiling to give a second round pick for? Tebow did start three games last year. As Hodge is fond of pointing out he missed some throws. He also made some very good throws. One could make a highlight reel showing him to be a great passer or buffon. He made mistakes, he made some plays. He handled the rush better and proved to be hard to pin down in the redzone for defenses. In other words, his performance is very reminiscent of much of what bronco fans have seen out of Orton lately, but more exciting to watch. Maybe those three games were a fluke. They were better performances than guys with the names of Elway and Farve did in their first couple games. The point is, nobody really knows how Tebow can or can not play, well, without playing him.
My point being, given Orton’s history with the broncos it is not so crazy for fans to want to see if Tebow can add substance to the sizzle. Just as it i not crazy for others to hold “Orton gives Denver the best chance to win” and Tebow should sit because he is not ready. The MSM is trying to paint fans that have some very good reasons to want Tebow as “crazy” or “embarrasing”. I think it is cowardly and inconsistent on their part, not to mention judgmental as they don’t know how Tebow would perform. In other words, maybe that fan who wants Tebow has thought about things, just as maybe the fan who wants Orton has thought about things as well.
This not a Kyle Orton post, there are plenty of them on the sidebar...
This is an injury update post!
thats where you are wrong..
EVERY posts is a Kyle Orton post….
(But seriously, that is an entire fan-post worth of text. worthy of a fan post, ehh.)
..We're 0-16 till we're not..
They say the cool is all over me..
On the Post today
I saw several comments talking about mediocrity in reference to the Broncos. I am thinking, MEDIOCRITY…mediocrity are you kidding me. These guys will have to improve a LOT to approach mediocrity. Or is it just me?
Jason Hunter played very well Monday, but doesn't have the same tenacity to get to the quarterback like Doom does...
Hunter will be suffice for now as Doom heals. Derrick Harvey may get some looks to if the decide to place Doom inactive for Cincy…
Lance Ball and Willis McGahee will have the running back duty I presume.
Cassius Vaughn may not match up well against AJ Green. Vaughn 5’11-6’0 against Green’s 6’4 is a mismatch of height and talent level…
other than that I think we’ll be OK, and it won’t matter if we play like we did against Oakland…
Jason played hungry
something the entire team needs to do, IMO.
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better
orton is still orton. Where we drafted new players they definitely played better.Before the season the experts said our only talent was Champ and Clady. We are along ways from good but we are better.Nobdy is happy with Moreno but this is a long rebuild process, this team looked better than last years but definitely not as good as the fn raiders. It wasn’t the beatdown of last year thank God
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