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Key match-ups: Broncos @ Packers - week 4

Sunday - Oct. 2, 2011
4:15 PM EDT
Lambeau Field, Green Bay

 

Here are the Denver Broncos, with a 1-2 record so far, after losing for the Tennesse Titans on a game we had good chances to win. Now we need to move on and think about our next game, which is a very hard one since we are going to face what I think is the best team of the league: the Green Bay Packers, away. I can see other strong teams fighting for their place in the sun, but for me they are the favorites to win the Super Bowl... again.

Follow me after the jump and let's think together on what are the offense and defense key match-ups for us to have a fair shot against the Packers.

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Offense key match-up: Orlandro Franklin  vs  Clay Matthews

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Looking at the depth chart of the Packers, I can easily close my eyes and remember our two Super Bowls team. Actually, after an article wrote by Flunkie HERE, I watched that game again when we defeated GB. I never have enough of seeing Eddy's pancake and The Helicopter! We were so strong that I couldn't even imagine how the opposite teams were supposed to game plan to beat us. The time passed, and we are now on the other side. We see a great roster in front of us, and we need to game plan to beat it.

It's a very difficult mission to accomplish, but I realyze that it starts by Orlando Franklin having an extraordinary game. He is a rookie who can make great pushes for our running game, but still lacks in pass protection althought a good upside on it. That's why I have absolutely no doubt that they will align Clay Matthews in front of him 90% of the snaps, letting our best OT (Ryan Clady) facing Erik Walden on the other side. Woundering this complete scene in our minds, we can realyze the tragedy that we'll be submitted if Franklin plays in a bad day.

Clay Matthews, the 1st rounder that McDaniels passed to get Robert Ayers in 2009, amasses 123 tackles, 24.5 sacks, 1 interception, 3 forced fumbles and 1 touchdown scored in 2 seasons and 3 games playing for Green Bay. The biggest problem is that we can't feel safe on double teaming him, because AJ Hawk and Desmond Bishop are very good when rushing the passer up the middle. Are Zane Beadles and JD Walton good enough to contain those attacks? I don't think so... We have to double team their defensive linemen before thinking on double their edge rushers... Thus, If Kyle doesn't get sacked a lot of times, he will at least see the pocket collapsing very often in front of him.

My conclusion: I can't see our offense doing a good job on sunday. Not only because of our weakness itself, but because it matches exactly the Packers strenghness, just like it was on the season opener. We can't expect to see Kyle with plenty of time to pass, well protected by the pocket, and we all know what he can do on those situations (nay what he can't do). As I don't think we can establish an effective running game, we just need to hope that we can have some good plays and try to score in all the oportunities we may have.

 

Defense key match-up:  Von Miller  vs  Marshall Newhouse

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On the offense side of the ball, the Packers are also a very strong team. Aaron Rodgers is an elite QB, and can remains very calm on the pocket due to a great pass protection from his offensive line; the running game is a decent one, and James Starks will be their man in charge since Ryan Grant is injured again; their corp of WRs have huge names such as Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson... and also Jermichael Finley is a top-tier TE (probably playing agaisnt us, but not confirmed) who can catch very well.

With all those strong points, if the Broncos really want to have a chance of stopping the Packers, it's by pressuring Aaron Rodgers. It's a really hard task but on sunday they will have a weak link for us to explore. Bryan Bulaga, a 1st rounder starting RT suffered a knee sprain and bruise on their game against the Chicago Bears and will miss a game or two. For his spot, the Packers will plug Marshall Newhouse. The 5th rounder RT (#169 pick overall in 2010) missed his entire first season because of a back injury. He was put on IR since he was going to miss their 14 first games. Now he is back and got a few reps on their 3 games so far. It's a very interesting stuff that despite of the situation of the teams, we will both start a rookie at RT, and we must target theirs to reach Aaron Rodgers and at least hurry him, perhaps making a few hits and causing a turnover.

We have seen Von Miller playing a really high level football for the Broncos. If we can game plan to get many a man-2-man match-up beetwen Miller and the unexperienced RT, we have good chances to rush the passer and maybe force one or two turnovers. The bad news is that Rodgers has a very quick release plus a great reading of the field. So just rushing him is not enough... our secondary can't be burned several times like it was against the Titans, and it scares me a lot.

My conclusion: It's a little refreshing don't have to worry about the opposite rushing game. But, as we are facing one of the bests passing games of the NFL, we will have a hard work on sunday. I just expect the Broncos to don't be hammered and keep a low score.

 

With all this in mind, I think we don't have many chances to beat the Green Bay Packers. However, football is not that predictable and a lot of things can happen and help us. And you folks, what do you think are the offense and defense key match-ups for us to face the Packers properly? Do you think we can come back from Lambeau Field with a 2-2 record?

GO BRONCOS!

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Key matchup

Kyle Orton vs. his shadow

by keb on Sep 27, 2011 6:31 PM MDT reply actions  

On this game specifically

I dont think he can do that amount of damage receiving the snaps.

Tebow could be better, because he can scramble to avoid sacks… but would it be enough to beat the Packers?

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 27, 2011 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

early prediction

Shadow > Orton

Q. What do the Tennessee Titans & Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 60,000 people stand up & yell "FOR THE LOVE OF
CHRIST"

by Broncs55 on Sep 28, 2011 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

C'mon man

I do agree that Orton should be benched, but we have so many other things to talk about…

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 28, 2011 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

agreed

he is just the most controversial one.

I won’t discredit we need a few more upgrades in starting positions, and won’t discredit we need a lot more depth, but Orton is an issue, and it just so has it that QB is the most important position on the field.

Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 7:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

However

It’s very obvious for us all that he will not be benched so far… That’s what we have for now and it’s not gonna change for a while.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 29, 2011 7:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

agreed

not until around week 8 or 9, although the pitch forks are being picked up and the locals are getting ready to arm themselves if we are only a 1 or 2 win team by BYE week.

Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 7:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Indeed

I’d be very surprised if we go to the bye week with 2 wins…

We face the current champion and next the best team of our division.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 29, 2011 6:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

As much as I hate to say it

The Raiders are the best team in the division so far. Ugh

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by Calikula on Sep 29, 2011 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I really don't know..

We can’t forget that they were 6-0 last season… but SD has a great admin and it’s controversy to point who is the best one.

The sad is that we aren’t… and that’s why we have a big work to do in Denver.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 30, 2011 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Matthews and Franklin

 If things get too out of hand for Franklin Fox might have to use an extra TE to help franklin out .

by broncosfaninphilly on Sep 27, 2011 6:42 PM MDT reply actions  

The only TE capable to do it imo

is Daniel Fells…

But I still fear that it’s not enough to stop Matthews, besides subtracting a good target for Mr. Checkdown.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 27, 2011 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Packers WRs vs B dawk, champ and the rest of the broncos secondary unit .

 Its TIME……For B dawk To show up and start making some plays for this unit.
 Overall in 3 games he has been underwhelming to say the least and at a time when the
team needs him the most . I know champ is going to be back from injury but like B dawk
 he also needs to step it up too ! These are our Vet leaders . And its time to lead
 I will be very disapointed to see anything less than guys fired up flying all over the place
 laying big hits and breaking up passes.

by broncosfaninphilly on Sep 27, 2011 7:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Oh my friend, I disagree here...

I admit that I was a little concerned about Dawkins because of his age during the offseason. But so far he is playing very well. He still has a big intensity and is everywhere making great tackles. He still hits very hard, and imo if he wasn’t on the roster we could have witnessed another disastrous score on our season opener, for example. He is a leader, and so is Champ Bailey, and I think they stepped up again this season!

Btw, for this game specially, I don’t think Brian Dawkins will have such that importance since he lacks in coverage and the Packers are a passing first offense. Rahim Moore yes will have an important hole patrolling the back of the field to avoid big plays.

Champ Bailey returning can shut down his side and their slot package for sure, and I’m curious to see how Fox will use Wilhite and his CB Blitzes…

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 27, 2011 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just dont want the secondary to come out flat and uninspired .

 Mabey i have been following goodmans play so much i missed some of what dawk
was doing

by broncosfaninphilly on Sep 27, 2011 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

If you looked too much to Goodman, you must be pissed

He got burned several times so far, and the guy can’t make tackles. It’s impressive the amount of misses he has every single game!

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 27, 2011 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Key match up - Broncos v Lady Luck

That ball has a funny shape and a point on each end that makes it bounce funny. To win this game, Denver needs a few of those bounces to go their way. Fortunately we should have our number one bounce maker back – DOOM. The interior line is playing far above expectations and should be getting Thomas back this week also (comon lady luck). If DJ returns and Champ takes on nickle responsibility again we should match up well on third and long situations. If Denver wins, the story line will be sacks and INTs.

Of course if Denver loses the story line will be …. well you know who.

by Flunkie on Sep 27, 2011 7:56 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Great pointed Flunkie

I guess our chance to win is by sacking / forcing fumbles / intercepting with Von Miller facing their unexperienced RT.

And if we lose, we’ll see other 28 posts about why Orton sucks. Ok, I know you disagree that he should be benched, and you know I agree with this chant, but it’s a pain in the ass having that amount of same-matter posts after every lose. We have a very hard schedule, so can you imagine the total of “Kyle sucks” posts in the end? Multiplying 28 per around 12 maybe…

Anyway, I’m enough with him and with all this rant… and I hope our Defense can at least keep a close score until the end of our next game.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 27, 2011 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Doom is near 100%

Then we can attack from multipul directions. An inexperianced Right Tackle causes lots of disruptions to the entire line. With the guard having to provide help the gaps get opened up in the middle allowing Allen to get creative. Even if we had Peyton Manning healthy and playing for us, we still have to stop Rogers first if there is to be a win.

by Flunkie on Sep 27, 2011 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with you about having PM and still needing to stop Rodgers

And even more about the disruptions of an inexperienced RT… However, despite the difference beetwen our teams, they will target our rookie RT as much as we will target theirs. It’s gonna be an interseting point for us to watch.

Allen is known by his great blitz packages, and on this game he need to show us a little more. Something I miss is some zone blitz packages. Our two DEs (Dumervil and Ayers) played 3-4 OLB until last year, so I don’t think that there are a duo of DEs so great when dropping into cover like them.

It’s a big potential that so far we didn’t use…

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 28, 2011 7:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Colquit

He is making a lot of difference for us with his punts. That one against the Bengals was just unbelievable! It was a pity that C.Harris was flagged and he had to kick again.

Anyway, I’m liking what I’m saying from our ST. I don’t think any team can hurt us on that plays, specially with the ridiculous new kickoff spot rule.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 28, 2011 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

One small correction
For his spot, the Packers will plug Marshall Newhouse. The 5th rounder RT (#169 pick overall in 2010) missed his entire first season because of a back injury. He was put on IR since he was going to miss their 14 first games

He went on IR late into the season (like week 15 or something), but was inactive for most (all?) of the games leading up to that, but not due to injury. He performed admirably filling in for Bulaga against that stout D-Line of Chicago.

Also, a little self-promotion; I started a fanpost for questions about the Packers. It can be found here: Ask a Packer Fan

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by Wiedmann on Sep 28, 2011 12:07 AM MDT reply actions  

Thank you for the add, wiedmann

I didn’t know he was active on the roster but inactive for the games… I tought he had been put to IR. Anyway, he missed the entire season and is back now.

I watched your game against the Bears and he did a good job imo too. However, if the Broncos want a weak link to stop Rodgers, I think this is the best path to go.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 28, 2011 7:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Possibly

I still think the left side of the line might be a better attack point. RG Josh Sitton is by far our best OL, so he may be able to make Newhouse appear better than he is. I wouldn’t be surprised if they often had a TE chip on his side, to mask his weaknesses. The other side has LT Chad Clifton, who is old, and had 3 penalties (at least) last week against the Bears, and LG TJ Lang, who wasn’t the starter last year, and LG was the weak link last year. We’ll see; hopefully you won’t have success at either side! :-P

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by Wiedmann on Sep 28, 2011 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great add here

And so this is another similarity beetwen our OLs. Our most experienced player is Chris Kuper, a stud RG who can help RT O.Franklin to look better… And he is suposed to have a few helps of the TE Daniel Fells to hold Clay Matthews.

But, do you really think that your LT is a less dificult path to reach Rodgers than the rookie RT?

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 28, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tough to say

Haven’t seen Newhouse play much, and he looked good against the Bears. The coaches have been raving about him in practice for a while now, so it sounds like he’s progressing nicely. He’s not a rookie, he’s a second year guy, he got almost a whole season of coaching to work on his technique. Clifton certainly has his physical limitations due to age, but he’s a wily vet. I would think a speed or bull rush might do better against Clifton, and a misdirection (like a spin or swim move) might work better against Newhouse, just a guess though. Clifton has probably seen all the moves before, whereas Newhouse might be duped on something he’s never encountered before.

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by Wiedmann on Sep 29, 2011 12:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Let me ask you another question…

If Finley doesn’t play, how is your depth at TE in terms of blocking to help Newhouse?

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 29, 2011 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

Finley is a TE in name only

He’s essentially a big WR. We split him out wide quite a bit, and he’s kind of distasteful of blocking in the first place. He’s a decent enough blocker, but using him that way is a waste of his talent. He will play. His presence on the injury report is because he’s nicked up, but if it were a game, he’d be ready to go.

As far as our depth at TE….I think we’re set. We kept 5 TE on the 53 man roster, because Mike McCarthy likes their versatility & for special teams purposes. Usually all 5 are active for games (if healthy, of course). Tom Crabtree is probably the best blocker of the group, and either he or Andrew Quarless would be the one kept in to help block on the edge. Also, they go in motion a lot, sometimes ending up in the backfield in sort of a FB-type role. Quarless is probably the most complete TE on the roster, in terms of blocking/receiving balance, but Crabtree made some vital catches last postseason as well. The other two, DJ Williams & Ryan Taylor, are both 2011 draft picks, and their role is mainly on ST, though they do have offensive packages, and maybe get used 3-4 offensive plays per game.

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by Wiedmann on Sep 29, 2011 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

I forgot you guys drafted DJ Williams

My gf was pissed that the broncos didnt take him when they had the chance, she’s a huge Arkansas fan. I told her they we didnt take him because it be too confusing with a DJ Williams on D and one on O haha

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by Calikula on Sep 29, 2011 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was reading some posts on your site

and somebody mentioned DJ Williams, and I had to do a double take. I looked up your depth chart, and sure enough, you guys have a DJ Williams, too. That would actually have been awesome if you had two DJ Williams on your roster. I guess we’ll have to settle for the possibility that DJ Williams gets tackled by DJ Williams. I think Phil Simms’ head would explode if that happens.

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by Wiedmann on Sep 30, 2011 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha

we drafted our DJ in 04 and he’s been our leading tackler every year it seems. Besides Champ, one of the the only solid pieces on our woeful defense for the past 5 years

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"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
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by Calikula on Sep 30, 2011 7:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

ahaahahha

great excuse to your gf…

I admit I don’t know too much about their DJ, but on this short sample of a shortened preseason plus 3 games so far, I like very much our both TE picks here.

Our DJ, as said, is a good LB… this year he is back to his former position, and will play WLB here. McD put him to play MLB and althought I liked the job done, he is much better outside.

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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Phil Simms' head exploded...

would that be a bad thing?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 30, 2011 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

It would be better if it was Joe Buck or Troy Aikman

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by Wiedmann on Oct 1, 2011 1:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

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