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Part of the injured group that missed week 3 practices Wednesday, players hope to play in Green Bay.

Broncos getting healthy - Boulder Daily Camera
ENGLEWOOD -- The Denver Broncos had their top three defensive players on the field together Wednesday for the first time since training camp.

Broncos fans fuel QB issue - The Denver Post
The exterior of the Broncos Dove Valley headquarters is made of thick, concrete walls with a stucco composite finish. Better to withstand the potential bye-week threat of pitchforks, lanterns and torches from fans demanding the team play Tim Tebow.

NFL.com news: Breakout stars: Once unknowns, these 10 guys are on the rise
Eric Decker, Broncos, WR: He's leading the Broncos in receptions with 15 and is also a factor as a punt returner (has a 90-yard touchdown this season). At 6-3, 218 pounds, he runs great routes, catches the ball over the middle and will block for the run game. Decker lacks great speed, which is what made him a third-round pick instead of being a middle to late second-rounder.

Woody's Mailbag: Broncos fans growing bored, apathetic - The Denver Post
Mediocrity is as unacceptable in Denver as it is in Boston. And I think that in tough economic times, if you're going to spend your money or your time on a team, you want something extra special. The Broncos aren't extra special or special or exciting or much fun, really. That's why people want Tim Tebow.

Former Broncos Dan Reeves, Rod Smith among Hall of Fame candidates - The Denver Post
Three former Broncos players and former head coach Dan Reeves are on the preliminary list of candidates for the Pro Football Hall of Fames Class of 2012.

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Week 4 - Wednesday: Fox | DenverBroncos.com
Head Coach John Fox reflects on past trips to Lambeau Field, preparing for the Packers and getting some injured players back at practice.

Week 4 - Wednesday: Orton | DenverBroncos.com
Quarterback Kyle Orton talks about returning to Lambeau Field, Charles Woodson's versatility and preparing for the Packers.

News briefs: Broncos' Dumervil, Williams, Bailey back at practice - NFL - CBSSports.com Football
Wednesday's NFL news briefs: The Denver Broncos had their top three defensive players on the field together for the first time since training camp.

NFL Game Center: Denver Broncos at Green Bay Packers - 2011 Week 4
The Green Bay Packers have been in close games each of the first three weeks, but have emerged undefeated. The Denver Broncos have also been in three tight contests, yet they've already lost twice.

Denver Broncos team report: Brandon Lloyd wants to be more involved - Sporting News
WR Brandon Lloyd wants to be more involved in the Denver passing game. He's told QB Kyle Orton as much, and this week, the receiver relayed that he was "going to stand up for myself" on the subject when it comes to the team's offensive staff.

Broncos should follow Packers' planby building team through the draft - The Denver Post
When a team has won as many games as the Packers have in recent years, with as many of their own draft picks on the depth chart as they have, its clear the team considers what it does in April the backbone of the franchise.

Broncos have bigger problems than the play of quarterback Kyle Orton - The Denver Post
Todays questions about the Broncos come from Scott Sargent. Q: Now that we have determined that the Kyle Orton of 2011 is the same Orton as 2009, and 2010, can the Broncos please move on?

Dumervil likely to play Sunday against Packers - The Denver Post
Plenty of Broncos coach John Foxs day is determined by the fold in one sheet of paper he puts in his pocket daily at practice.

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A Test Against the Best | DenverBroncos.com
Looking to get back in the win column after a tough loss last week, the Broncos are excited to travel to Lambeau Field to take on the defending Super Bowl champions.

Multiple Broncos Among Hall of Fame Nominees | DenverBroncos.com
Rod Smith is included in the group of five former Broncos nominated to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Smith, Four Other Broncos Among Preliminary HoF Nominees | MaxDenver.com
First-time selection Rod Smith is among five Broncos who are among the 103 preliminary nominees for the 2012 Pro Football Hall of Fame class.

DT Thomas, CB Bailey Bring Broncos Closer to Full Health | MaxDenver.com
For the first time since Week 1, the Broncos’ list of players missing practice is down to three.

Broncos Take To Lambeau Field - Predominantly Orange
Wrigley Field. Madison Square Garden. Fenway Park. All are storied stadiums/arenas, but the Broncos destination this weekend takes the cake of all cakes.

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WalterFootball.com: NFL Picks Against the Spread - Week 4, 2011
Kyle Orton, meanwhile, has been dreadful without Josh McDaniels. Tim Tebow would at least have a chance against this defense because he can move around and make things happen. Orton can't do anything.

Chargers Bob Sanders' season is over - The Denver Post
Safety Bob Sanders, who has missed more games than he has played since entering the NFL in 2004, was placed on injured reserve Wednesday by the Chargers.

There's no place like Buffalo in NFL - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Western New York has always loved the Bills, even amid the moving rumors. It's a place like no other in the NFL. - National Football League news

NFL roundup: Despite bruised hand, Michael Vick vows to start vs. 49ers | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
A badly bruised hand isn't going to keep Michael Vick off the field. Vick practiced Wednesday and said there's a "100%" chance he starts when the Philadelphia Eagles (1-2) host San Francisco (2-1) on Sunday.

H.G.H. Testing Is Now Unlikely in N.F.L. This Season - NYTimes.com
Once promoted by the N.F.L. as a done deal, a program for H.G.H. testing has become engulfed in a dispute among the league, the players union and the World Anti-Doping Agency.

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Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 8:23 AM MDT reply actions  

thank you!

Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

17 straight losses when behind at halftime.

For a while we’ve been attempting to define “clutch” statistically (good luck), and Orton doesn’t fair very well there – just check the numbers at the end of the Klis article. But when I saw the stat that we’ve lost 17 in a row when behind at halftime, by any number? Orton’s “clutch” has officially burned out. I don’t care what Fox and Elway say at this point. It has obviously turned political at some point since they are mechanically repeating the same phrase: one which no one, anywhere believes. “We’re concentrating on beating the Packers this week.” Good luck John. Pack by 21. At least.

Mediocrity is like a lollipop: lick it once and you'll suck forever.

Sticking with Kyle Orton is like taking your cousin to the Homecoming Dance - you're openly admitting that you had no other options, and it's guaranteed that nothing is happening after the early dance.

by improv88 on Sep 29, 2011 8:46 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

There must be a competition

at the DP to see which writer can suck the most. I think Klis is winning.

Iron Maiden's Gonna Get You

by OldSchoolOrange on Sep 29, 2011 8:51 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm beginning to wonder if they're just letting their interns write the articles.

I don’t know how else to explain Woody’s article. Content aside, I couldn’t follow any discernible order of thoughts. It looked like expanded shorthand.

Mediocrity is like a lollipop: lick it once and you'll suck forever.

Sticking with Kyle Orton is like taking your cousin to the Homecoming Dance - you're openly admitting that you had no other options, and it's guaranteed that nothing is happening after the early dance.

by improv88 on Sep 29, 2011 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

If the results stay the same, I'm happy if he cut & pastes the exact same article..

.. and just updates the stats.

Seriously, someone has to listen at some point. Put Weber in if there’s a pride issue for Fox putting Tebow in.

But 17 straight when down at halftime? Like, a crisis would normally occur at 10 in a row. 17!!

Just because I speak with authority doesn't mean I actually know what I'm talking about.

by tonks on Sep 29, 2011 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kiszla won that along time ago.

Klis just looks for which lap do sit in next. McJedi’s lap was a short stay for him.I doubt Elway wants a grown man as his lapdog. Fox either.

Might have to be Xanders. He looks friendly in the southern country bumpkin sort of way.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think the fans want Brandon Lloyd to be more involved

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 29, 2011 8:54 AM MDT reply actions  

I think Brandon Lloyd and his agent want that even more.

CONTRACT YEAR!

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Screw contract years

I work comparably hard whether I’m making as much as someone living in a Juarez shantyhouse or have a salary requisite with that of a Parisian billionaire

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like getting the ball to decker more though.

Decker is bigger/stronger and doesn’t just fall down after making a catch. I like Lloyd but he doesn’t really give you the yardage after the catch. Also I don’t like it when Orton throws those quick screens to Lloyd. He’s not going to break many tackles.

by tiderfootball09 on Sep 29, 2011 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I want Royal and Bay Bay

to be healthy to join the great throng! Yes, I think Decker is swiftly becoming one of my favs!

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

We are getting healthy just in time for it not to matter. Or save Orton’s job/career.

2011 has gotten off to a rough start and we’re already done with the 4th place part of the schedule. Now we move on to play real teams.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 9:27 AM MDT reply actions  

McGeorge

passion aside, do you really think they’ll bench Orton anytime soon for the sake of change? Whether it be Tebow or Quinn???

I hope so, and according to Tebow’s actions when Orton went down in Tennessee, it appears Tebow is the true #2 regardless of what happened in preseason.

Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Look.

Orton played quite well vs Cincy. If he plays like that again and can play like that consistently, he’ll rightfully be the QB for a while.

If he plays like the did vs Oakland and Tennessee where he left points on the field, didn’t make plays that he could have and turned the ball over too much, I think his number will be up as soon as week 7.

It all depends on Orton, not Tim or Quinn. If Orton doesn’t play better than he has, he is toast and his NFL future as a starter vanishes. Dude has a lot of money at stake. Forget the fans that don’t like him. The money is the real pressure and Kyle is blowing it or throwing it into the fire.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tennessee and Cincinnati?

nice 4th place teams, I still think the Bengals can give people fits, the Titans are screwed without Kenny Britt, and that tool Cortland Finnegan deserves it for talking smack about us on Jim Rome’s radio show Thursday

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes, sir

almost came back against the #1 defense in the league too (San Diego). I believe he was down by 17 there as well.

Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

no, the team lost

Just like the team won against Houston when down 17 at half, but it was Tebow leading the charge, with the exact same team Orton has had.

Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

both as in Orton and Tebow, or Orton and the Team?

Tebow gets those losses as well when included in the word “Team”. But so does the waterboy.

Statistically, I’m not sure who it’s pinned on.

Q. "Why does Lambeau Field have hybrid turf?
A.To keep fans from grazing during the game."

by Broncs55 on Sep 29, 2011 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

from Woody’s article:

“From the seventh game of 2009 until the game at Tennessee on Sunday, with Orton as the starting quarterback, the Broncos trailed by three or more points at halftime 17 times.

They lost all 17."

Tebow’s comeback was 5 games ago. No way we could have lost 17 in a row since then.

by McJay on Sep 29, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

So Woody thinks the other six games don't count

because 6-0 doesn’t prove his point.
Just sayin.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 29, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

All it shows is a trend and one that has a sleep slope downwards.

Where did the preseason Orton go? You know, the good one.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Did we come from behind in those first six games though?

Not being sarcastic… I just can’t remember.

Just because I speak with authority doesn't mean I actually know what I'm talking about.

by tonks on Sep 29, 2011 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think in all of them, yes

SD, Dallas, And NE were all from behind

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Sep 29, 2011 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh yes, I remember that NE game well

What a classic…

Just because I speak with authority doesn't mean I actually know what I'm talking about.

by tonks on Sep 29, 2011 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

from Woody’s article:

"From the seventh game of 2009

Yeah, that was two years ago too.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

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by KaptainKirk on Sep 29, 2011 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

That game was my highlight of the 2010 season.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

To cut against the grain

I have a feeling that GB isn’t going to slaughter us.

One thing that hasn’t been emphasized is that Green Bay’s defense is ranked 29th in yards and 22nd in points. It could be a high scoring game if the passing game (ie Lloyd) shows up.

But playing at Lambeau is the difference maker. Don’t see a win, but don’t see abject humiliation either.

by NYCBronx on Sep 29, 2011 9:53 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Their D played the Saints

Who put up most the yards. And Newton through for 400 but only threw for 1 td. Packers d is bend don’t break.

by gobroncos47 on Sep 29, 2011 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. The key to stopping the packers is attacking their o-line.

If you look at the teams the packers played against, the only team that had a good pass rusher was Peppers—that’s all the bears have. The only way the Saints could get pressure is by blitzing. The same goes with the Panthers. Von Miller is easily better then any pass rusher the Saints or Panthers have. That’s why I think Von Miller will have a big day. It would help having Dumervil back as well. If Dumervil can be 90% or better health wise, then that too would be better then what the Saints or Panthers have. That’s even better then what the bears can come up with. Then you add in the fact that Dennis Allen loves to blitz and I like the broncos chances. They have the ability to get to Rodgers early and often, which you have to do against a good QB. Again I like the broncos chances then.

by tiderfootball09 on Sep 29, 2011 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

I see us losing by 10 and would be able to deal with something like 31-21. Not at all happy or even okay, but I just don’t want to see a blowout where our D regresses.

Honestly, I’d love to see a final score like 10-3.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Denver winning of course.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hey, 21pts would up our average per game a little bit.

Since we’re sitting at 19.3 right now.

Woohoo!

Good thing we have that kick return for a TD and a turnover in the red zone – that’s 10 pts our offense didn’t score.

by Tim Lynch on Sep 29, 2011 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Our offense scored

10 points in week 1
24 points in week 2
14 points in week 3

Average of 16 points per week

That was with 2 home games and two games vs 4th place schedule teams.

This is not a good sign for week 4 or thereafter. It’s not a good sign for Orton’s hopes for a long term contract.

Elvis, you need to play once in a while to earn that mega contract of yours.

by McGeorge on Sep 29, 2011 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's incredibly optomistic for you McGeorge!

I wish I had your faith, but right now our greatest weakness on D is – stunningly – pass D. I don’t see Orton and Co scoring more than 14 and I don’t see the Pack scoring less than 35. Anything less than a 21 pt shellacking will be a minor win in my book.

Mediocrity is like a lollipop: lick it once and you'll suck forever.

Sticking with Kyle Orton is like taking your cousin to the Homecoming Dance - you're openly admitting that you had no other options, and it's guaranteed that nothing is happening after the early dance.

by improv88 on Sep 29, 2011 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think the Broncos have ever won at Green Bay

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Orton will play well and the Broncos win either at GB or against the Chargers

The Broncos will be 2-3 and EFX and many others will have ammunition to continue the, “Orton gives us the best chance to win” for many more mediocre to bad performances from Orton. Strap yourselves in, Orton will be at the helm for awhile.

by Keyworthpunch on Sep 29, 2011 1:15 PM MDT reply actions  

They don’t need ammunition. Even if we are 1-4, Fox will still say Orton gives us the best chance to win.

Orton starts until he is injured or POSSIBLY until we are out of playoff contention.

by McJay on Sep 29, 2011 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Until he's injured eh

I have a friend who knows a friend that knows , when your screenname is a parody of a popular gangster film and you happen to have Italian heritage…

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

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