Denver Broncos Final 53 - Man Roster
by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2011 4:07 PM MDT
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Well, as the sunset and the night falls, some players careers are lost forever, some will catch a second wind and some can finally catch their breath.
What is often referred to as the worst point of a coaches season is finally over; sure there will be tweaking, there will be necessary adjusting, but for now this is it. Below are the men who possess the shoulders that fans of the Denver Broncos can ride on for the entire season.
Gone are many players that fans thought would still be attached and attached are some players that most thought were as good as gone. So without further ado, here are your 2011 Denver Broncos!
Quarterback (3)
Kyle Orton
Defensive Linemen (10)
Elvis Dumervil
Tim Tebow
Robert Ayers
Brady Quinn
Marcus Thomas
Broderick Bunkley
Running back (3)
Knowshon Moreno
Kevin Vickerson
Willis McGahee
Ty Warren
Lance Ball
Mitch Unrein
Ryan McBean
Jason Hunter
Fullback (1)
Spencer Larsen
Derrick Harvey
Tight End (3)
Daniel Fells
Linebackers (7)
Von Miller
Julius Thomas
Joe Mays
Virgil Green
DJ Williams
Wesley Woodyard
Wide Receivers (5)
Brandon Lloyd
Nate Irving
Eddie Royal
Mario Haggan
Eric Decker
Mike Mohamed
Matthew Willis
Demaryius Thomas
Cornerbacks (4)
Champ Bailey
Andre' Goodman
Cassius Vaughn
Offensive Line (9)
Ryan Clady
Chris Harris
J.D. Walton
Chris Kuper
Safeties (5)
Brian Dawkins
Orlando Franklin
Rahim Moore
Zane Beadles
David Bruton
Manny Ramirez
Quinton Carter
Herb Taylor
Darcel McBath
Chris Clark
Russ Hochstein
Special (3)
Matt Prater
Britton Colquitt
Lonnie Paxton
The average age of this year's team is 26.3 years, with an average experience of 5.4 years. By acquisition, this roster has been filled by 24 Draft picks, 19 Free Agents, 6 via trade, 3 Undrafted College Free Agents and one waiver claim. By my count, there are 16 players that weren't a member of the Broncos last year, half of which came through the draft. Not a bad ratio considering the past few years. The first test in this draft is passed, with 8 out of the 9 draftees making the club. The 9th, Jeremy Beal, could still return on the Practice Squad too. We'll have to wait for the future to unfold to see the rest of the story.
So what do we think fair Broncos loyalists? Any gigantic mistakes? Who would you switch and or swap out?
GO Broncos!
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I am amazed Mohammed is there.
Amazingly amazed. He is slow, lacks instinct. But he pursues well.
by Gulbrand on Sep 3, 2011 4:18 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
really. IMO 'pursues well' when relating to mohammed is better said "pursues often". he's always behind the play.
he’s got heart and tries to get in the play but his anticipation is poor and his speed poorer.
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by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Lol..often and well are different ...
Hagan may be a step slower but has better instincts due to his experience level. Tavares Gooden off the waiver wire?
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Better potential than Haggan IMO and faster.
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by BroncoMath101 on Sep 3, 2011 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions
are you kidding haggan has great instincts and is NOT slower by my eyes...
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Haggan was terrible in coverage last year and way too slow to be covering to begin with.
He did great last as an OLB rushing the passer and was ok helping against the run but there was a lot of blown coverages by Haggan last year. He was just too slow.
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by BroncoMath101 on Sep 4, 2011 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions
slower than mohammed tho?
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 4, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes, slower than Mohammed.
Mohammed also played all 3 LB positions in camp this year. That is tough to do for a rookie. We saw how hard it was for Eddie to learn all 3 WR positions in his first year under McD. It takes time. Mohammed lead the LBs in tackles in the preseason and this isn’t something that should be overlooked in a rookie. His learning curve may be taking longer than Miller and maybe even Irving but considering what was on his plate it is understandable. Plus I look back at his college production and he was always around the ball. I think given time he’ll improve and become a very capable player for us. i definitely see him having a role similar to Woodyard except with the ability to play SLB and WLB for us whenever we need a rotation.
As far as speed. Mohammed ran a 4.65 time while Haggan ran in the 4.88 range.
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by BroncoMath101 on Sep 4, 2011 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
To me Mohammed stunk most dropping back into coverage...
but that may have had something to do with the vanilla scheme for game four?? He was just like EVERYONE in our defensive back field….right there two steps behind the receiver. It was almost like Fox told the boys to let them catch the ball first so we could work on tackling. ;)
Mahammed, however, stunk in coverage consistently through the preseason.
by Mile High ThundaDownUnda on Sep 4, 2011 12:15 AM MDT up reply actions
AND v the run!!
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by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 4, 2011 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Don't think they'll pickup any LB off waivers
So, I think Mo is safe. He is very smart and can play more than one LB spot. He was a finalist for the Academic Heisman. He’s a plug-n-play guy.
History is a collection of lies, agreed upon -- Napoleon Bonaparte
I agree
What I heard about him before the draft was that he’s not the most athletic LB out there, but at Cal it was his instincts that were his strengths. One teammate said that Mo always knew hwere the play was going. It will take him some time to adjust to the pro game, but I’m betting he does.
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Yep, sucks equally well at all positions!
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by boydy2669 on Sep 3, 2011 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha, that was funny!
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Yep...Please get rid of Herb, Manny, Russ and Chris...they ALL suck....would not make 3rd string on any other NFL team.
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ExACTly, Boydy.
The fact the Hochstein is still around PROVES how devoid of talent we are on OLine.
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Didn’t Ramirez start for the Lions ;)
Jason
The Hanging Curve
Not Seattle, not Buffalo
when their O-lines are so much worse than ours?
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Even those teams...though Seattle is pretty bad Spock!
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Hey my friend
How are you doing!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
Good Dennis. Whats been happening mate!
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I threw up when I saw he made the roster
Must have compromising pictures of Pat Bowlen
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I see about 4-5 of these guys getting dropped
once the full release list is out. We’re going to add some better depth.
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Amazed we're as shallow at RB as we are...
Bruton and/or McBath must be sweating. I don’t think they make it if we pick up some other teams’ cuts.
McBath has great upside and will make it.
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I am actually happy with our safeties.
McBean and Harvey are taking up space because of injuries that we could have used at other places….I’m kind of upset about our Corner situation, but I understand Squid got hurt, and though I wanted to see what Cox was capable of, I wasn’t disappointed to see him go. I think he can be good, though.
I was REALLY upset about Jarmon – not because he’s all that great, but because we traded Gaffney for him and I think we could have used Gaffney in addition to our other WRs. I would cut Harvey to make the room.
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Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
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I've got to say Cox was the biggest surprise to me.
It has to have to do with his investigation/court case, otherwise I just don’t see cutting him. Xanders made it sound like the decision was based soley on his play and I just don’t buy it. He didn’t have a very good preseason, don’t get me wrong; but he has a lot of tape from last year and he’s a pretty good corner and we’re thin at that position.
If he’s found not guilty (big if I know) we’re going to regret this IMO.
by Mile High ThundaDownUnda on Sep 4, 2011 12:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree.
Cox played well as a rookie last year filli g in for Goodman. Made some mistakes but all rookies do.
by broncs27 on Sep 4, 2011 6:53 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
this preseason
Cox didn’t play well. either is distracted by his trial or he really regressed.
One missing Def. Lineman
You’re missing Derrick Harvey.
I was gonna say
we’re only carrying 3 DE’s. Kinda surprised Harvey beat out Jarmon though
And now for something completely different
oops, nevermind
i should read the earlier post first. lol
by SoCalBroncsFan on Sep 3, 2011 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Potential?
yeah, it was a head-scratcher for me, but I loved Harvey in college. I just hope the coaches think he has some potential left to show. He needs to get his act in high gear for sure. Get some some Von Miller positive attitude!
Jarmon had potential too
not as much as Harvey obviously but Jarmon would’ve been a 2nd or 3rd round pick in his draft had he not been suspended from college and forced to go through the supplemental draft. Both players played well though and I’m not angry to see Harvey make the team. Makes the Gaffney trade a dud though.
And now for something completely different
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500 people would be knocking on his door
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
lmao
true, what was I thinking? It would be a nice story if harvey knocked on KaptainKirk’s door.
Gaffney
true, but would gaffney have made the team over willis? I’m griping about eron riley at this point, but I’d be upset releasing willis too then.
Oh darn.
I thought I fixed that
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Few surprises
McCarthy losing to Bruton (must be due mainly to ST’s).
Jarmon losing to Harvey and especially Unrein.
9 O-lineman (though Ramirez and Hochstein are still on the bubble).
Other than that not too many surprises. Hopefully guys like Weber and Riley clear waivers and hit the PS.
And now for something completely different
surprised at first, but I understand
agree with the mccarthy statement. I would love to get Riley back and possible turn himself into a rod smith. I can dream. I’d like to get weber some shots, but we got too many other qb projects on our hands. somebody will still get cut in a few days when we add a waiver addition (another CB). I like chris harris working hard too to have an undrafted player on the team. good message.
Harris was a little more than people thought
There were a few stars (i.e., more regarded UDFAs), such as Weber and Harris, who didn’t get hyped but deserved our attention. Weber actually did, but not till late and in the context of the Tebow issue.
It’s hard to draw conclusions about players that haven’t played much. Cox has other issues so it wasn’t entirely a talent-based decision but he looked bad, too, so the Harris roster decision wasn’t that odd. It’s just that we haven’t been exposed to him.
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Stepping back and looking at the big picture.....
We have so much more talent than last year! 2010 starters are 2011 depth…..That’s how it should be!
I don’t envy any of the “bubble” guys until tomorrow has come and gone. I expect we will see quite a few changes between now and tomorrow night.
Go Broncos!
No matter who starts at QB, we will be 8-8 or better (8-2-11)
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by Broncotodd on Sep 3, 2011 4:53 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
THat is true. 2010 starters are 2011 depth.
And that gives me hope. But even our depth should be way better if we are to be truly competitive.
-Harvey J. Neptune
Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.
Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."
Manny Ramirez, Chris Clark, Herb Taylor, and Russ Hochstein shouldn’t sleep too well tonight. They may not be Broncos tomorrow.
Same thing for Ryan McBean, Mitch Unrein, and Mike Mohammad.
Also, Ty Warren might be headed to the IR if we pick up a couple players like Derek Landri and Anthony Hargrove.
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If there are any guys that EFX prefers over him, they could give him the walking papers
rb on waivers
alot of people are mentioning Steve Slaton, but I’d like to see what Evan Royster can do. I’d take flyer on that guy (released by Shanahan today).
Slaton was not cut by the Texans
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I heard from a couple of different sources he was waived
Including a Rotoworld blurb. But then I haven’t seen anything else throughout the day.
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he wont last long if he was
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by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I went to the Texans' website
and didn’t see Slaton’s name on the list of released players. Looks like the info I saw earlier today might have pulled the trigger too fast.
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slaton
ok, my mistake then. I’m sure I saw a huge headline on espn about slaton and adibi (just adibit now).
I saw a few news blurbs about it too
but then everything just quieted down about him. I went to take a look at the website and he is not on the list of those waived and released. Scratching my head a bit, but that’s how it goes sometimes when there are thousands of news tidbits coming out in one day.
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espn
so I just went back and checked and it was reported on espn insider, but then on the AFC Cut Analysis blog it mentioned they kept him as a 4th RB (which may end up being one too many). I’m sure he has his luggage in the hallway ready to pack up this week…
I'm thinking they are seeing if Foster's hammy is good
before they help him with those bags out the door.
Glad you found that ESPN insider post. I was beginning to think I must have just dreamed the blurbs I saw earlier today.
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Unrein and Mohammed will be gone. I am not a Willis fan and like Riley's upside way more.....
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Really? I like Willis a lot.
He shows good speed, good hands and a willingness to get the ball even if he knows he is going to be hit. What is your negative feeling toward Willis? Not being argumentative here, just curious because I like him and don’t see much negative. I would love to hear your different take.
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MMM....just one of those pre-season wonders...I worry about durability as well...has an injury history...would love to be wrong though man!
27 going on 28….I just dont know about him.
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I'll certainly conced the durability issue
But if he can remain healthy (a big if, yes) he sure seems to light it up. I’d love to see his preseason translate into the regular season.
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conced = concede
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agreed but for the WRs i like em both
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions
but a fan of the qb
I think all the qbs like what willis brings to the team.
Agreed Boydy
Riley showed much more than Willis, no way in hell he makes it thru waivers
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I can only hope.
It would make my month to replace those guys with some better talent.
-Harvey J. Neptune
Pain is temporary. Pride is forever.
Pro-Bowl Press Conference:
Interviewer: Do you want to wink to the three teams that cut you and tell them, "I told you so?"
Brandon Lloyd: "No, I want to say, ‘F— you,’ and I mean that in the most professional way."
much agreed
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions
I hate to nitpick
but isn’t this technically the initial 53 man roster, not the final 53 man roster? especially given how many waiver claims we’re likely to make?
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by neckbeard's nephew on Sep 3, 2011 5:15 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
It's initially the Final Roster
=)
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by KaptainKirk on Sep 3, 2011 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol okay
I can get with that!
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by neckbeard's nephew on Sep 3, 2011 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions
mark it down
……. cuz you may not remember who was on it after there are changes. I recall the WR (forget his name) who made the roster but was cut in the first week. I recall Alvin McKinley(?) making the roster only to be immediately cut loose. It’s a snapshot that doesn’t mean quite as much as we’d like to think.
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No, it's finally the initial roster
I can see Russia from my house.
Surprised and confused by Unrein over Jarmon
Hopefully Kyle clears and makes the PS, same with Beal.
Ding Dong the lockout's dead
Unrein
both have problems, but I think Unrein really hustled in the preseason games. he seemed more hungry. so he deserves to be on the roster one-two more days than jarmon.
Unrein has a cooler name than Jarmon.
Kinda like Unleashed!
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Sep 4, 2011 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Very much more happy than at this time last year
Carter over McCarthy…OK
Unrein instead of Beal or Jarmon..coaches see more than I do.
Three RB’s..get ready for a BIG back..say some one like Gartrell Johnson or Chris Jennings.
Keeping Ty Warren on active..means that he is ready by fifth game IMO
Haggan and Robinson do not fit the LB style but youth may have been better IMO
McBath needs to show how special he is, and Bruton is just excellent on ST
I just hope we can find versatility on the OL, a C/G and a T/G then let go of Ramirez and Hochstein.
Hope Adam Weber passes waivers because I can seea a BQ trade at 6 weeks.
I liked Gartrell in college.
Expected more from him in the NFL. Wouldn’t mind seeing him bowl over Eric Weddle.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Sep 4, 2011 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Glad to see homegrown talent comprising more of the roster
We need to keep that trend going
by HBobbyT on Sep 3, 2011 5:37 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Wyoming Kid Made It!
He may not stay but I’m glad Unrein is still around. It’s a great for him as not too many UW players go on to the pros. Good lick to him!
by RebelChris on Sep 3, 2011 5:43 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
looking at Unrein
The hardest adjustment that I had when projecting this roster was the change back to the 4-3/Fox-style of defense. Unrein made little sense under the McDaniels regime (which also tells us that he had more than thought), but he makes much more sense now. His speed and versatility along with the injury-depleted DT situation make him a viable reserve, and it isn’t necessary to grant more than that. He also remained on our PS throughout the 2010 season, which is notable.
Players often gain followings despite their flaws and others remain under-appreciated despite their strengths. A few good or bad plays (or lack of either) can distort perceptions. We really aren’t getting a complete picture, nor are we as appreciative as the coaches of the basic math that — for instance — makes reserve OTs essential but reserve ballhandlers not essential.
I can offer explanations at this point but I can’t pretend to have predicted many of the roster decisions. A big part of the problem is roster math, which I’m only estimating. The Unrein and McBean decisions make sense if you recognize that there is no depth at UT & NT without them, but their permanent spots are tenuous if the consensus opinion of their abilities is correct. What’s true for today’s decision may not hold tomorrow.
******* George Santayana described fanaticism as -- "redoubling your effort after you've forgotten your aim"
by Colinski on Sep 3, 2011 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only got to see the 4th qtr of the AZ game
But Unrein actually stood out on more plays than any other D-lineman during that time.
I agree
Unrein may not stick with the team past tomorrow. However he seems to be a hard worker. I’m not saying he’s an outstanding DT that’s going to get to the QB every play and make highlight reels everynight. But he seems good at plugging up running lanes and sheds his block well enough to get in on the tackle if the play has past the line of scrimmage.
Not only that but he’s a Wyoming kid and I have to support the local talent! It’s been bred into us! ;)
by RebelChris on Sep 3, 2011 8:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The CBs look so thin...
…but at least there’s no Nate “Where’d It Go?!?!” Jones. I hope there’s a waiver pick-up on the horizon.
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look to S, too
What I mean is that coverage doesn’t have to come from CBs. McBath and others at S can play nickel.
I balked at the idea of cutting McBath because of his continuing utility in pass coverage. It’s not that he hadn’t regressed over the last year, since he apparently has, but he’s still far too useful in coverage to be casually tossed aside. By the same token, McCarthy was likable but loses out in comparisons based solely on pass coverage ability. SSs are just not as important in today’s pass happy game as FSs, despite their crowd pleasing hits.
Check back with me tomorrow when I come up with my newest rationalization for the latest move.
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lol
No matter who starts at QB, we will be 8-8 or better (8-2-11)
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coverage comes from the CBs AT LEAST as much as from the safeties!!
Why we aren’t more concerned is beyond me.
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by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:39 PM MDT up reply actions
CB has BEEN looking thin. worse now.
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Free agent
More than 3 years and you are not able to be waived. You have to be released. (from what I understand)
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I live out here in Patriots land....
Meriwether has some “punk attitude” issues. He’s a character risk and not sure he’s been all that great on the field either.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Sep 3, 2011 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Wondered what the deal was
Thanks for the insight!
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"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
ahhh
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I remember
his cheap shot on Todd Heap, he’s kind of a sucker
by The Bradfather Strikes Back on Sep 3, 2011 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions
We are scary thin @;
1. CB (2 UDFAs)
2. RB (Ball, really?)
3. OL (entire 2nd team)
4. DT ( Really need Landri/Hargrove/olshansky) goodbye to Unrein/Harvey + Warren to IR
*Releasing Eron Riley was stupid! Hope he makes PS? Demaryous Thomas coming back is great, BUT he just won’t stay healthy! I predict he doesn’t make it thru the season before he’s injured again. Also Jeremy beal…will be a player, hopefully for us!
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2: ball is a fine #3 3: these guys won't be nearly so bad when substituted one at a time, surrounded by starters.
1 & 4
YES!
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions
This actually makes sense
Whenever ball had an open seam, and didn’t have to cutback to find one, he did pretty well for himself
My only "problems"
Eron Riley…… Jeremy Jarmon…… Kyle McCarthy
"When Tim Tebow does pushups, he's not pushing himself up, he's pushing the world down."
"Gear down there big shifter This is the "No Bull" review man…" a total Lebowski-esque one liner from Sadaraine, whether he realizes it or not - comedic gold.
I have to agree with the Riley cut seeming like a mistake
Kid just seems to have a ton of upside, maybe he just can’t run block well or something.
To me, that doesn't matter
as long as he can get downfield and make plays. If DT can pull it together and stay healthy, he’ll make us forget about Riley. I still don’t understand cutting Jarmon loose.
"When Tim Tebow does pushups, he's not pushing himself up, he's pushing the world down."
"Gear down there big shifter This is the "No Bull" review man…" a total Lebowski-esque one liner from Sadaraine, whether he realizes it or not - comedic gold.
there isn't much use for the extra WR
Royal, Decker, Lloyd, Willis would all be on the field in 4WR sets down to 1 WR sets. We can’t field a true 5WR set right now (until DT returns) but even with DT back we are much more likely to deactivate someone else (Willis) and run J.Thomas as a 5th WR (or green, or Fells, or Moreno, etc…) for the rare occasion where we want a 5WR set.
Think of the 46 gameday roster, and the 53 behind it as dispensation of “reps”… Every play has 11 offensive reps and 11 defensive reps. Keeping Riley active (and I voted to do so, at the expense of a DT, McBean specifically) means one spot on the 53 is accounting for zero offensive reps, and given that our STs reps are all occupied, probably zero game reps period. Teams already consider it a neccesary evil to carry swing OTs and G/C as reserves on the 53 who will get zero reps, they probably balk completely at the idea of a skill player on the 53 with no reps.
Add in that we have Warren committed to no reps on the 53, and I think they were feeling the pressure to maximize EVERY roster spot with ideal assignment math, or “rep” math.
It all makes much more sense in hindsight. The big evaluation problem for us fans is that the whole mess is apples vs. oranges. The decision to keep one player over another isn’t always fungible.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 3, 2011 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hadn't considered that...
but the notion that Julian Thomas made an extra WR slot a luxury is a fair assessment.
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True Jeremy
thanks for drawing that out for me my friend :-)
"When Tim Tebow does pushups, he's not pushing himself up, he's pushing the world down."
"Gear down there big shifter This is the "No Bull" review man…" a total Lebowski-esque one liner from Sadaraine, whether he realizes it or not - comedic gold.
Thanks for the perspective
Eron just flashed so bright , in that game, I got blinded. I agree in retrospect that sacrificing rotational players on defense for an inactive, albeit quite talented, skill player is not worth it. Personally I think Eron has more upside than Willis, but if you look at it from a strictly backup point of view Eron probably wouldn’t be able to just step in and play as well as Willis this year.
My bet is that Riley was released today specifically because EFX want him on the practice squad.
They release him today so that they can sign him to the practice squad. The Broncos obviously aren’t done making cuts and it would be more difficult to slip Riley by on a day when only a few dozen players are cut (due to new signings) than a day when 800-some players are cut. I imagine that was the plan with the majority of their practice players.
At least, that’s the spin I’m putting on it.
I guess we have to wait til the morning to see who we've picked up off waivers
I hate waiting . . .
History is a collection of lies, agreed upon -- Napoleon Bonaparte
Wouldnt mind bringing in
The recently cut Will Allen for a 5th CB spot, kind of a poor man’s Asante Samuel…a very poor man…borderline bum…but at 5th CB what the heck if the price is right.
by F@ckAlDavis on Sep 3, 2011 7:09 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Until you/we know for sure what happened id keep the snide comments like that to a minimum.
That’s kinda crappy that a guy gets accused and is automatically guilty in the eyes of the fans. We have no idea what’s going on.
by broncs27 on Sep 4, 2011 7:02 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Read the police report
This is not a he said, she said. She is pregnant with his baby, He denied ever even having sex with her to police. There’s more in the police report that points to him in doing what he is accused off. He is probably going to be in prison soon. Glad he is gone.
It is a he said, she said situation
Yes, he lied. People do that all the time, even under oath. What we don’t know is:
Was she responsive to him at the time, and just doesn’t remember (blackouts happen).
Or, was she responsive at the time and is lying now, hoping for a civil judgment that will get her some money (remember, she was initially disappointed that the father was Cox and not Demaryius – which has the most money? And why would she care if she wasn’t after money?)
Either way, though, having sex with someone you barely know when you’re both under the influence is, at best, stupid.
Broncos are better off without Cox, and he’s better off in a different city.
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by bradley on Sep 4, 2011 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I always question the motives of people who are the first to defend scum like Perrish Cox.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Sep 4, 2011 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Feel better now?
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Are you in law enforcement, Bradley?
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Sep 4, 2011 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm an attorney in Colorado
For the last 30 years. I do mostly criminal defense, so yes, I am in law enforcement – trying to make sure that all laws are enforced, like the Constitutional presumption of innocence.
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by bradley on Sep 4, 2011 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I try to stay away from this issue
There’s a lot complexity to this issue that isn’t reflected in the media’s presentation of it. The act of raising alternative scenarios can be misconstrued as siding with the accused/defendant but it’s unavoidable if one wishes to broaden the field of possibilities beyond the somewhat stereotypical narrative of events.
It’s possible to keep an open mind about this case without siding with either party but it’s also rare. Most people draw conclusions based on incomplete evidence. It would be wise to suspend judgment at this point since none of us is in possession of all the relevant facts that will ultimately determine this case.
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by Colinski on Sep 4, 2011 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
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Our roster could be worse....
I will be optimistic until there is no more reason to be
by The Bradfather Strikes Back on Sep 3, 2011 7:59 PM MDT reply actions
I have serious questions about our defense now
And EFX had better hope that some of these players perform better than they’ve shown so far. Some big surprises today, and I’m even more shocked by the wasteful Gaff trade, and some of the other moves. This has been a head scratching off-season, but let’s hope it works out, in EFX I trust.
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gaffney would have been cutter anyways
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by Ramon Fernandez on Sep 3, 2011 8:09 PM MDT via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah, we should have kept Gaff IMO but where would he fit in?
we took a chance on Jarmon… he didn’t work out.
can we pick him back up cheaper later maybe?
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sure why we would want Gaff back if that's what you're saying.
I’d much rather have Decker, Lloyd and Royal than Gaffney, Lloyd and Royal…getting youth in there. And I think we not only don’t lose anything but gain the youth, size and upside of Decker.
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by broncofaninIL on Sep 3, 2011 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions
i'd want him AFTER those, yes. + those
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 4, 2011 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I doubt it
Especially considering he was #2 last season, and DT is still in question. Even if he wasn’t in the future of the team, you can do better than a player who was just going to get cut, he was at least worth a mid or late round pick, especially since he is likely going to start in Washington.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
NOW you have questions? Which cut made the difference?
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:44 PM MDT up reply actions
It was the questionable Gaff trade that started it
As well as some other cuts, but I’ve always had questions, especially about Xanders. But at this point, the season will tell the story, and I hope I’m wrong.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
me too.
i’m really happy about our moves thus far. Looking like a great draft for instance. (way early i know)
Mebane was a big miss IMO…
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Gaff trade was a money move
Gaff was going to be paid more than he was worth on a roster full of young WRs on the upswing.
I don't think money was ever an issue really
Since we are still below and not close to our cap. It may have been, but one injury to our WR’s like our CB’s have suffered, we could see trouble in the passing game.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Were you expecting to contend for the super bowl?
Let’s not forget this is a bad team with a new front office that is finally confronting the need to rebuild.
The defense was atrocious last year, so to expect it to be good this year is a reach.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Sep 3, 2011 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't expect them to be good
I am expecting a better front seven, but our secondary looks weaker this season, especially at CB, and we have some inexperienced safeties, which isn’t a good thing sometimes. I think we improved in some areas and got worse in others.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I'll give em a year on the front seven....
I like our safeties more this year (except McBath….ugh).
by charlesnelsonreilly on Sep 3, 2011 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
I think our safeties will be about the same as last year
Creating more turnovers, but giving up more big plays as well. Our secondary, especially at CB, seems really thin, one injury and we could either be starting only over the hill guys, or rookies.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I'm with you.
I think we will be slightly improved but I still see teams running it down our throats and screening us to death. Will be another tough year.
Life's too short for bad tone!
I'm actually expecting the defense to be good.
With the improved pass rush (night and day from last year) the secondary also gets better. Ayers setting the edge on one side and Doom on the other for the run defense and the increased speed…I think we move up to middle of the pack at the very least.
We still have a way to go up the middle but I like Mays at MLB and really like Moore at FS. Bunkley and Vick at the tackles I think are also an upgrade along with Thomas, when he gets healthy.
We shall see.
JMO though
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by broncofaninIL on Sep 3, 2011 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions
changes from last year
If for no other reason, we’re better because we have two elite players we didn’t have — Dumervil and Miller. 2009’s defense was rated 12th in points allowed and 10th in sacks. The loss of Dumervil in 2010 led to a precipitous decline in points allowed (32nd) and sacks (32nd).
I agree with the thinking regarding Mays, Bunkley, etc., too. Beyond the changes in personnel, Dennis Allen as DC and the offense’s emphasis on running are major impacts on the defense. And the speed of our defense, particularly the LBs, has increased.
In general, we have a far greater chance of creating turnovers & negative plays. Our prospects for creating QB pressure have dramatically improved. And our pass defense will likewise benefit. Run defense may continue to be a problem but the changes at LB offer some hope of improvement.
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I'm a little surprised by the TE sit...
But not disappointed. It looks like Thomas will be the main Rec TE? I wonder if he is worth a look in Fantasy?
Also, isn’t Prater facing a possible suspension for his DUI?
I can't forget ... but I can't remember what.
Johnnie Lee Higgins was cut loose by the Eagles
There’s our kickoff and punt returner!
Although having a kickoff returner when we play 8 games in altitude with Prater’s leg is probably a luxury rather than a necessity.
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cant wait to see who we pick up
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
What does Prater's leg have to do with us returning kicks? Anyway, I like Decker back there for us.
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
"As a quarterback, all you want is an opportunity to lead your team to victory" - Tim Tebow
No way on Decker...
Too tall. Tall guys get rocked on kick off returns.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Sep 3, 2011 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, good point! LOL
Maybe Prater will kickoff to us, as well? Don’t know what I was thinking there. Too… much… news!
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it's not just Prater's leg! Kickers. the new rule. WAY WAY less returns
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions
really? His leg puts the kickoff into the endone 9 times out of ten with the new rule.
in other words, uni-dimensional returners are a luxury.
I like that Decker has good hands but we wouldn’t put Eddy mac back there to get slammed (he’s big and not super fast) I don’t want decker back there either.
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Ok, you guys might be right on Decker, but Prater still can't kickoff to us.
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
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by azbroncomaniac on Sep 3, 2011 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions
lol thank goodness.
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 8:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Josh Cribbs is pissed.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Sep 4, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
It does take away some skilled players' careers
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The Cards (who just traded a great CB) released these CBs ... lets be shoppong
Fred Bennett
Bryant Nnabuife
Marshay Green
Thad Turner
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
the list is DAMN long if you look at all those released.
Earn your money EFX!!!
Go get us at least one CB right now!
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions
here's the latest league-wide list.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/transactions
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
That's helpful, thanks WB!
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np this one is even better
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/transactions/nfl/all/today/?rw=1
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Bennett looked handy the other night
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by orange&blue_aussie on Sep 4, 2011 3:59 AM MDT up reply actions
One thing I heard on Weber sort of made sense.....a little....
Keep him and cut Quinn. Quinn is not the future here. Let Weber and Tebow develop over the next year or two. I mean, do we really see signing Quinn to an extension?
by charlesnelsonreilly on Sep 3, 2011 9:05 PM MDT reply actions
I guess they feel Quinn can run the offense better in emergency (#2's job right?)
I hear ya though.
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm 100% for this. But I guess it's history
EFX appear to be headed to a youth movement, which I’m totally for. Why not Weber? Not that Quinn is old, but he has zero upside.
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by azbroncomaniac on Sep 3, 2011 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions
4 Corners 5 Safeties...You know what that tells me..lots of zone
McBath is a converted Corner so maybe he can play man.
Quinton Carter can play nickel (or Dime since Bailey is at nickel in 3rd down)
This right here is keeping the best players, adjusting to your personal. We had a lot of potential at Safety (Bruton and McBath+Rookies) and less so at Cornerback. If squid was not injured, you can bet that Bruton or McBath wouldn’t be here. I’m pretty excited to see us against a 5WR set. I think We’ll see 2-3 CB’s and McBath/Bruton/Carter replacing Dawkins while Rahim covers. (I like McBath in the role)
Don’t know about Mitch over Jarmon but I’m no scholar.
5 WR set means Sack City
With only the O-line in protection the QB should have the luxury of a full .7 seconds before Doom introduces him to the turf.
And then Miller makes the introduction a memorable one
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McBath
You can’t call someone a converted corner if the last time they played corner was in high school or early in the college career. He is a safety and that is what he was drafted to play. Too bad he hasn’t lived up to his promise thus far.
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He played corner and now he plays safety so I see him as a converted Corner
He was the 36th best corner in the country and then played corner at college before an injury sidelined him. He is a converted corner. Was a corner, coaches converted him to safety. Keyword there is converted him.
CB Joselio Hanson Should be in for a look ASAP
Walter McFadden (Raiders) also interesting.
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- Fyodor D
Agreed
on Hanson — definitely a CB that the Broncos should try to acquire.
Marcus Harrison DT
Was released by the bears… a young 315 lb third rounder. Anyone know why he was cut?
hmmm
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/4810/Marcus-Harrison
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Too
Fat
Slow
Lazy
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the ol 2FSL!
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- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I saw Donnie Avery was cut loose (WR Rams)
Some real surprises out there today.
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Was running 4.3 40's this offseason
Was the Rams Best Offensive player a few years ago. Reminds me a lot of Royal
He even cleared waivers.
Talk about sliding downward…
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Depth Issue
The list of positions where the Broncos are thin is a long one. No way we end up with the 10 names on the Def. Line that are there currently. Even with picking up some players from the waiver wire, does anyone think that the Broncos can possibly be deep enough this year? Elway has said it more than once— there is a “three year” plan. Translation: the Broncos have a chance this year if the improbable happens, there are no injuries to starters and the first string doesn’t wear down as the season progresses. In all probability, with the depth issues, no one in the front office is going to jump out of a window this year if the Broncos don’t make the play-offs—and neither should any Bronco fans. It’s called a rebuilding year. But if the Broncos do as well in next year’s draft as this year, it just might be a “two year” plan.
They sure seemed to have made some solid picks this year, no doubt
but having Doom back has got to be the best move of all!
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expectations
I’ve heard a few analysts say we can go 7-9, but I expect 8-8. I looked at our schedule and 10-6 is not out of the question, as I noticed the Raiders and Cheifs have really struggled this preseason. this new kickoff rule looks to be in our favor too. we’ve never been able to stop big ST plays and create a good KR. the rest of AFC West was better than us there. I think we can be AFC West #2 team.
Here are some players of interest to me:
Alex Magee – DE
Daniel Muir – DT
John Henderson – DT
George Selvie – DE/OLB
Colin Cole – NT
Xavier Omon – RB (Bruiser)
Ogemdi Nwagbuo – DT
Anthony Hargrove – DT/DE
Derek Landri – DT
Reggie Wells – OG
Lito Sheppard – CB
Gabe Watson – NT
Jamon Meredith – OT
Jarriel King – OT
Sammy Morris – RB
Pat Devlin – QB
Micah Johnson – LB
Terrence Wheatley – CB
Tommie Harris – DT
Kyle DeVan – OL
Javarris James – RB
Quinn Pitcock – DT
Igor Olshansky – DT
Shaun Chapas – FB
Brandon Ghee – CB
Chester Taylor – RB
Kendrick Burney – CB
Tony Fiammetta – FB
Nick Hayden – DT
Tyrell Sutton – RB
Reggie Corner – CB
Michael Jasper – NT
Jalen Parmele – RB
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I'd hope we take a look at
Tyrell Sutton, Igor Olshansky, Tommie Harris, and Derek Landri. Harris was an absolute beast for Chicago years ago, but got hurt and wasn’t the same since. I saw him in person once. He was a beast of a man. I wonder if he just doesn’t have it anymore. I’d also like to see Ricardo Silva to give us an extra DB. Derek Landri looks the most intriguing IMO.
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by Bronco Billy on Sep 3, 2011 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Tommie is probably done
Those big guys go fast once they lose it. Olshansky and Landri would be nice.
Actually, Harris played pretty well in a couple pre-season days. At legaue minimum, and managing snaps, could be good for us.
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Harv Neptune.
Is it Free Agency yet? Wake me up when it starts!
DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
Is a good option to look closely too
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by Fabio Broncos on Sep 4, 2011 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions
wheatly maybe CB Joselio Hanson !!
you think lito has anything left?
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
don't know
but yeah man….. Hanson too.
"When Tim Tebow does pushups, he's not pushing himself up, he's pushing the world down."
"Gear down there big shifter This is the "No Bull" review man…" a total Lebowski-esque one liner from Sadaraine, whether he realizes it or not - comedic gold.
haven't looked into the DTs yet...
there are SO MANY
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 3, 2011 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
What happened to the transcript of the Xanders presser?
Low-cut blouses are looked down upon in this establishment.
It was removed
for TMI, a Broncos policy.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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You can read the transcript
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Follow me on Twitter @MHR_KaptainKirk
That's odd...they shouldn't call it a presser then LOL
No matter who starts at QB, we will be 8-8 or better (8-2-11)
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
Shanahan
Why not pick up defensive players from Shanahan? He’s prone to releasing defensive players that turn out be be starters elsewhere.
"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting--died!" - George W. Cecil
Shanny
please release Brian Orakpo!
by The Bradfather Strikes Back on Sep 3, 2011 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions
and put him where?
Davis and Smith to the Hall!
"Teamwork divides the task and double the success."
- Unknown
Anywhere DJ Williams
was going to play ;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
Ouch
DJ is not as bad as some make him out to be.
Davis and Smith to the Hall!
"Teamwork divides the task and double the success."
- Unknown
Who knows why people are so down on him
He’s been one of the only good pieces of the defense for the past 5 years. Him, Champ, and Doom
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
they like to point to his "lack of coverage skills"
which aren’t actually there. Most people will tell you DJ got stuck in ZONE more than MAN the last three years and hardly ever blitzed! DJ is a blitzing LB and a very decent coverage guy too!
Davis and Smith to the Hall!
"Teamwork divides the task and double the success."
- Unknown
Who's returning Punts/Kicks?
Apologies if this was already covered here…I skimmed through comments; but with Cox gone and Squid injured who’s gonna fill the void? I’d vote Eddie. I don’t buy the argument that punt return burns out a guy like Eddie…the more touches by our dangerous guys the better.
by Mile High ThundaDownUnda on Sep 4, 2011 12:05 AM MDT reply actions
Agree
except that if the D does what we hope, he will be returning a whole lot of punts!
Royal, Decker and probably Matt Willis
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Follow me on Twitter @MHR_KaptainKirk
Decker
Can see Decker as he seemed to do a good job on kick returns, and has the best hands. I shuddered every time we were receiving punts. It seemed like we fumbled every other reception. At some point Bay Bay will be stepping into the WR package, so Decker may be #4. Was thinking though that although Decker has good straight ahead speed, that Willis may be actually “quicker” as far as broken field running . . .
Like everyone here, those last two or three spots – McCarthy, Jarmon and Riley – certainly seemed to go against what I had seen and heard but the question I’ll pose is, if we brought those three onto the roster – how many games would they be active for? I don’t think any of them, or the guys we’d have swapped out for them, will be active come game day.
lines
I hope they concentrate on backups for o and def. lines. A big back would be nice and a corner but the lines are what killed us the last 10 plus years. Well offense not that long but d line most definitely
No moves yet?
What were they doing last night? Watching Dr. Who? That’s what I did, but I’m not paid to evaluate and sign NFL talent.
History is a collection of lies, agreed upon -- Napoleon Bonaparte
On Harris
Saw someone comment that Ryan Harris released by Philadelphia—in case some are getting excited that hadn’t heard, he had back surgery and this was an injury settlement. Too bad for Ryan . . .
Panthers looking for
the same positions as Denver. They only kept 3 CB’s and 3 DT’s, and these are the two primary positions that they will be claiming—which means that Denver gets the “seconds” on these positions. On the bright side, there appears to be some good depth on the waiver wire LOL.
2-hours to go . . .
Sheesh. EFX still having their coffee and danish?
History is a collection of lies, agreed upon -- Napoleon Bonaparte
Info
NFL tells the teams who they acquired after reviewing all the waiver claims, so all teams will find out when the deadline passes.
That makes sense . . .
Although it doesn’t stop them from acquiring released players, as opposed to those waived.
History is a collection of lies, agreed upon -- Napoleon Bonaparte
Question, does EFX bring in more waiver guys or free agents
there are some good names on both sides, of course the waiver wire will bring youth, but a savvy vet brings experience, i would like to see mostly the young guys and one vet, i kind of want them to look at a vet CB, or vet OL,
Completely unrelated to our beloved broncos but...
Benson goes to jail for a supposed twenty days and is released in five, wtf, britt and talib get no suspensions, weird i don’t know,what is the commish smokin, guess its good news for prater and DJ
Statue of Liberty
Doesn’t the statue of liberty say"Give me your fat, slow and stupid?’ We should give the guy a chance
Off topic, but quite pertinent.
I have MHR loaded as one of my tabs on Firefox. I come to this site every day, bar none. Of late, my AVG antivirus blocks the site, on occasion, and notifies me that a threat from “exploit” was blocked. Yesterday, I had access most of the day, until the post about Xanders’ comments about the cut down was put up. I don’t want to cause any alarm, but I’m wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I’ve brought it to the attention of MHR and SBN, but I’ve gotten no direct response. I don’t want to be prevented from getting my fix of all things Broncos, so could someone please respond?
It's a courtesy block.
I overrode it so I could read McGeorge & Rocko anyway…heh-heh
"The stupider one is, the closer one is to reality. The stupider one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence wriggles and hides itself.
- Fyodor D
by Whidbey Bronco on Sep 4, 2011 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
norton
I had problems before. I had more than one antivirus brand I think I deleted one and adjusted my settings on Norton . I think it was the AVGI deleted but I’m not certain
Available and intriguing:
Everette Brown — Fox gave up a 2010 #1 for him in 2009, and he was just let go by Carolina; and Montrae Holland, released by the Cowboys.
Not to mention, George Foster is available
As backups go, we could probably do worse…
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