Payback Time
by mdierk on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 PM MST
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PrintHi folks! What a ride this season has been. In case you haven't noticed, I haven't been around too much lately. The main reason I have been away for so long is not that I don't care about MHR. Actually it's the opposite. I just started a new job a few weeks ago and I have been busy training and learning my new role. Unfortunately I am restricted from browsing certain sites while at work and by the time I'm home I have two little ones taking up the rest of my "free" time. One of the drawbacks from working at the job I am at is the limited radio signal available in my office. I normally prefer to listen to AM radio during the day, but I can't get a single station. My only option is FM now and my preference is to listen to talk radio. Here in Albuquerque there is only one option available for me. ESPN.
While listening to ESPN all I ever hear is Tebow can't do this and Tebow can't do that. This has been rampant for the last two weeks. It hasn't mattered who was saying it either. Monday was fun to listen to since all of their heads kept exploding from Sunday's game. One thing they kept talking about is how bad New England was going to beat our team.
My reaction to that is me channeling Lee Corso "Not so fast my friend!" One thing we have seen all year is Denver does not win in conventional ways. If it were not for three devastating turnovers in the last game, Denver had a great chance to beat the Pats. It is time to shock the world again and watch Tebow and the Broncos silence the blowhard Boston fans Saturday night. The number one key to winning this game is using a front four or five man rush to get to Brady. Blitzes will do no good this time. We need to see our guys hitting Brady repeatedly. When Brady is hit on a regular basis, he gets angry and it affects the offensive timing that they rely on. The second key is playing mistake free football. No turnovers will go a very long way to success. Historically New England hates to get into a physical game with anyone. Take a page out of the Ravens' book and use it to hammer the Pats.
Well, time to wrap it up and get ready for the game. Beer is cold in the fridge and I will be decked out in my gear like the rest of you. One thing to take from this season is that the future is bright and the promised land may be closer than we think. Lets hammer Brady and remind him why he has a 2-6 record against Denver.
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if you are looking for the best honest Bronco talk
Then go to 1043thefan. com and listen to their online stream or download their app.
by valas40 on Jan 13, 2012 11:38 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Hey valas40 thanks for the tip
I will be getting the droid app, now i just have to work out the time frame. Any particular show that is a must listen or better than others
by Downunder Thunder on Jan 14, 2012 1:24 AM MST up reply actions
listen to the drive
Big Al is an ex Bronco from the superbowl teams and knows his stuff, I definitely don’t agree with everything he says but he’s right more often then not. 3-6MT Weekdays
by valas40 on Jan 14, 2012 9:39 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Disagree.
I think milehighsports radio is best. But I’m not sure if they have an app or not. But I always hear Bronco fans calling in from all over the world, so they must stream.
I think 104.3 the fan’s personalities get too distracted, too easily. Plus, Mike Evans, on their morning show, is a blowhard Boston fan, who went to Syracuse. So, he’s about as mainstream as you can find.
Sandy Clough, who does 104.3’s evening show, is some kind of genius. He can be abrasive and I don’t always agree with his views. But he has an amazing capacity to retain and recall games, drives and plays – even from 30 years ago. I think his views are typically really well thought out.
There used to be a third option, the Ticket, but in January, they walked away from local personalities (such as Cecil Lammey and Vic Lombardi/Gary Miller) and went with ESPN. So I don’t listen to them as much. Cecil was amazing on the radio. Talk about the gift of gab. Plus, I think I heard Bena on there one or two times.
The key is Jim Armstrong. The former Denver Post writer, who was unjustly terminated from the Post, is the best I’ve ever heard when it comes to covering the Broncos and the NFL. He’s hilarious. He’s well-informed and he’s smart. But he’s “in between jobs” right now. Eventually, he’ll land somewhere and I’ll listen. Occasionally, you can hear him fill-in with CJ on the Ticket’s afternoon drive; but it’s not as often as I’d like. They need to replace Nate Kreckman (who’s a boring idiot) with Jim Armstrong. If they did that, they’d win that slot.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
i disagree man
Alfred Williams tells it like it is man. And Mike Evans is as much of a Denverite as I am, sure he’s not from here but he loves the Broncos. Sure the shows are slanted and biased but what home town show isn’t? Big Al on the Drive has been right about everything (except Tebow) so ya I personally like the Fan. And the Ticket sold out btw, hate Les Shapiro more than any sports guy out there.
by valas40 on Jan 14, 2012 9:37 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I like Al.
hate Les Shapiro more than any sports guy out there.
I don’t know anyone who likes Les. How does he keep getting jobs? The dude is wrong about everything, can’t interview for squat and misinterprets/cuts off callers. The guy needs a career change…like two decades ago.
Plus, I bet his farts smell really bad. Doesn’t he have that kind of face? I’m not saying my farts don’t smell (they don’t to me, but they’re toxic to others). But some people just look like their farts smell horrible. Les is one of those people. I think it’s his smile. He’s got one of those smiles that looks sheepish – like he regrets that his farts smell so bad.
I haven’t listened to Mike Evans in years, so maybe he’s changed. When I used to listen to him (the Josh McDaniels Era), I thought he was dead wrong. Turns out, he was dead on. I guess I’ve never forgiven him for rooting for the Red Sox when they played the Rockies in the World Series.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
an app called tune in radio has all available streams.
Living in Oregon it is the best ever. And mile high sports radio is on there.
meeeeow -cats everywhere
by Jay Fin Anderson on Jan 14, 2012 9:42 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
They have podcasts too.
The RSS is at the website. Can subscribe and have automatic downloads.
by cosBroncosFan on Jan 14, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
The temperature could really help us
Brady’s shoulder has been an ongoing problem throughout the season. The tendinitis loosens up by the 2nd quarter or so (sometimes later). In the frigid temps they are predicting for this game, running the ball will be key. I think that clearly favors us. I also think that the condition of the field may negate some of the speed cuts of Welker.
We run the ball like we did in the first game, and don’t turn it over, we could put a serious squeeze on NE to throw, throw, throw. Which plays into our VonDoom attack nicely. I think we are clearly in Shock the World Part 2 territory. Can’t wait to see it come to fruition.
by shasta77 on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
The frigid temperatures
also takes away from the pass rushers ability to turn the corner which could slow them down. Could be a negative side effect but yes I agree, it’d be nice to have a colder game considering our team’s style.
by higgyhoops12 on Jan 14, 2012 12:42 AM MST up reply actions
Good point
to help the pass rush, the DBs must jam the receivers on the line. Force them off their routes, disrupt the timing, and add that extra split second to help Von Doom up front. Allen can’t allow the Pats’ receivers to run cleanly like they did the first time around or the results will be similar.
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
It's not gonna be all that cold, at least by NE winter standards
Forecast says 23F at kickof, dropping to 20F by the end of the game. Cold, but not terrible. However, there will be considerable wind (15-25 mph), so passes may go off target. Who will the wind ebefit? We throw less, but Tebow’s passes are longer down the field, while Brady throws a lot of short passes, so Tebow’s ball has more chances to go way off target and into DBs hands.
Bronco talk
MDierk I listened to 1043 very often over more than 20 yrs. and feel somewhat qualified to put my two cents in.
First thing all the afternoon shows can have good to great player interviews on any day during camp or the season. Second thing is their Broncos postgame shows are uniformly better than KOA, more real and less formulaic – doesn’t rely on those post-game player interviews where you keep hearing “we found a way to win” or “we didn’t execute” over and over and over.
The worthwhile shows have been The Drive, with Alfred Williams (Broncos DE ’96-99) at 3-6 pm, and “Clough Talk” (did Broncos postgame show Bronco Talk on KOA for years during the Orange Crush Era) at 6-10pm.
The Drive is satisfying about every other show. Williams is like a big kid with a sense of humor. He is an erratic host but he has rare insight at times – apparently he is still close to the Broncos front office. The station shook up the lineup this year and I haven’t heard Mark “Stink” Schlereth of ESPN co-host the Drive as he used to do. Williams and Stink had great moments telling old war stories about their championship years. The other co-host, DMac just seems to be there to prod everyone with a sharp stick and it is soo obnoxious.
He has observed quite a bit but to me is too media-centric as if he reads all the sportswriters and puts a lot of stock in what they say and at those times comes across as a wannabe sportswriter. Clough also gets disgusted with callers and yells if they are not well informed or take the other side. I listen to Clough mostly because I have on and off for 35 years. There will be stretches of MONTHS where you can’t listen because he is such a drag.
MIke Evans is banished to a new 6am morning show with Joel Klatt (former CU cornerback). Evans is not too with it and Klatt is new. Nate Lundy is new. This makes the morning a wasteland now that they dropped Mike&Mike and Jim Rome.
The new 12-3 show is Scott Hastings (ex-Nugget) and Dave Krieger. I liked Hastings when he did color for the Broncos ten years ago when his buffoonery provided comic relief, now he comes across as an old fool. Decent interviewer however. Krieger is a long-time columnist from the Denver Post and his strength is the Nuggets. So we should expect good interviews.
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by littletinybroncos on Jan 14, 2012 7:36 AM MST reply actions
I beg to differ about Alfred Williams and DMac
I find Alfred very football savvy, but irritating in his inflexible assessment of TT. I have thought at times that he is a mouthpiece of the front office and has been sent on a mission to beat up TT regardless of his performance. In my opinion, much of the Denver press’ negativity has fed the national media. TT had an impressive passing performance last year against the Texans that seems to never be mentioned. He also had great passing stats in college. I think part of the reason that he has struggled this season is because of the unrealistic expectations pounded by the MSM. He should have the same latitude to develop as all the other young QB talents in the league like Smith, Freeman, Bradford, McCoy, Sanchez, and even Stafford, Flacco, and Ryan. The last four are beginning to face heavy scrutiny, as they should with several years under their best, but they pretty much received a pass for their first couple of seasons. This is TTs first season as a quarterback, not second, as Alfred Williams so likes to argue. As far as DMac is concerned, he my favorite person on 104.3. He has an upbeat attitude and calls Alfred and Stink out for their hypocritical criticism of TT. He is the “fans” voice, and frankly the fans have been right about TT and his ability to create an aura of optimism for the team and city. We didn’t have that with Orton or his “franchise” predecessor Cutler. I remember having an overwhelming feeling that we would lose games to Cutler’s bad decision making and poor leadership.
Alfred Williams
" mouthpiece of the front office and has been sent on a mission to beat up TT" — Thats just silly.
Most people with NFL experience have been critical of Tebow because up until this week, Tim hadnt show that he could make NFL quality throws. After the game this week, Williams said Tebow played great and pointed out the throws that he made that he felt were true NFL quality passes. Now he just wants to see it consistently before he is ready to buy in. The thing I like about him is how he describes the intricacies of line play. As a fan who believes all games are won or lost at the line of scrimmage, I really enjoy those moments.
by AttwaterForHOF on Jan 14, 2012 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
Agree on D-Mac
The other co-host, DMac just seems to be there to prod everyone with a sharp stick and it is soo obnoxious
I don’t understand how this dolt continues to land jobs in this market. He should be doing traffic in Omaha.
Also, regarding Joel Klatt, he played QB for the Buffs. And he’s a bore too. I’m not sure why radio/tv execs continue to believe that, just because someone played a sport, that necessarily means we give a rat’s ass about what they have to say.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
I can't stand most of the announcers, especially Evans, Klough, and Alfred Williams
they are hardly objective and revel in their negative, redundant, and dry analysis. Their pomposity needs to be balanced by someone like DMac who calls them out for their often unfounded, and incendiary perspectives that they continually beat like dead horse.
DMac is annoying.
But he is the guy with radio experience and without him the sillyness would get even more out of hand than it already does. Sometimes I just have to mute it until they are done goofing around. Sometimes, though it can be pretty friggen hilarious. I really like the Darth Belecheat bit they did this week.
by AttwaterForHOF on Jan 14, 2012 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
What's up mdierk
U gotta invest in an iPhone and get the tunein radio app. I’ve been listening to Denver radio all year. The tickets switch to espn has sucked but their afternoon with cj and kreckman is good. Les and JoJo suck ass. God I miss Vic and Gary!
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by Albuquerque on Jan 14, 2012 8:21 AM MST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Anger managment.
That will be the key to beating Brady from a defensive standpoint. He gets pissy if things don’t go his way. I read an article about what a prick he’s been all week to his teammates. He’s coming in chippy and if we can flatten him a time or two early in the game, he’ll rag on his teammates and bitch and moan to the refs and we’ll be in his head. Psychology can beat him but we’ve got to have a pass rush to do it or pick off a couple of passes. His first and second drives are key though.
welcome back Mdierk
Its funny how everyone says now that belicheck gets to face us a 2nd time he will have everything figured out and that we will not run on there defense like last meeting . EH… What they think that the broncos arent watching film and figureing things out also ? Thats funny . How did they turn into the baltimore ravens D in 4 weeks ?
by broncosfaninphilly on Jan 14, 2012 8:52 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Denver has been pretty good on the road this year too
5-3. With nothing to lose, the Broncos have a chance to shock the football world today.
Go Broncos!
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
Yeah baby!
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
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Not a Good Thing
Here’s a theory. When you have a unique style of play (think Air Force Football and Basketball) it is less effective the second time you play a team. The Broncos now have to face a New England team that saw them recently.
No matter how much preparation the coach/scout team does the players never fully believe until they get beat by the tactics in a game. I believe the only snapshot available of this is the second game against Kansas City.
All that being said .
Do you think that the broncos coaching staff is clueless ? That we have no capicity to counter anything that the patriots have game planned for us ? That game was 4 weeks ago . Every game is new with unique opportunities to expose and take advantage of .
by broncosfaninphilly on Jan 14, 2012 9:38 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Far from Clueless
What they have done as a coaching staff is quite remarkable. More along the lines of having a very unique scheme that is outside the players usual experience. At some point, usually later in the season, everyone has seen everything and it comes down to mano y mano. The “Tebow” offense may lack some of the surprise factor it did initially. Hope this isn’t the case but if we start seeing the opposing teams adjust it could be a long game/next season.
by denverrefugee on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
I understand and agree my freind .
Hopefully someone on the pats D is a step slow somewhere in this game. They got the turnover breaks last time . Now us this time . Go Broncos .
by broncosfaninphilly on Jan 14, 2012 9:55 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
We just need to make sure Quan Cosby doesn't go near the field.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
We cut him right?
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
Not that I heard. But maybe I missed that.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
Cosby
Hard to blame the returner for that muffed punt – the special teams coach (Rogers is it ?) forgot to be a coach on that play ! Be honest with yourselves for a moment – there’s less than a minute to go in the half – the punt is gonna come down well into Denver territory – unless this guy is the best returner in NFL, you don’t even attempt to field that punt !! The coach should have sent Cosby onto the field to call a fair catch and leave the damn ball alone. It only cost the Broncos 3 points -so definitely not the death knell of the game – but, the gaff was on the coach… not the player.
by profootballfan on Jan 14, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
Inside DLine stunts.
I think this is the key to the game. Last week they were getting good outside pressure on Brady but it was always just a half second too late. This week Allan needs to stunt to get the pressure up the middle and force Brady to hold the ball. If we can force him to hold the ball one second longer then we should see a lot more sacks / hits. And we need to do it without too much blitzing because he is just too good at recognizing the hot read. I am counting on Ayers, Thomas and Bunkley to bring it today. They need to play out of their minds today. GO BRONCOS!!!!!
I mean, last game they were getting good outside pressure on Brady. I keep doing that.
by AttwaterForHOF on Jan 14, 2012 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Yes . Put brady on his ass .
Remember dooms monster sack ? Well . We need about 5 or 6 just like that . Hurry everything he does . Make him uncomfortable all day long . If we can do that , it will blow up there entire game plan . Because you know they will be pass heavy offense .
by broncosfaninphilly on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Wasn't this the Denver game plan... four weeks ago ??
by profootballfan on Jan 14, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
To be honest I dont know what there game plan was
I guess it was similar to what I said . whatever it was it was working until we self destructed .
by broncosfaninphilly on Jan 14, 2012 11:46 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
To be honest
The Bronco game plan worked, until it didn’t work anymore.
I mean… Denver is a running team, we all know it and its not like they could huddle in the locker-room at half-time (after the New England takeaways) and change the damn game plan. To what ? To allow the Patriots to score a whole bunch of points ? No, the Broncos didn’t abandon their game plan, the Patriots reacted to what they were doing and did a better job at adjusting their play. I hear all this talk about how the takaways forced the Broncos to change their game plan and as a result, they completely fell apart and got the shirt kicked out of them. Huh… I don’t get that point.
by profootballfan on Jan 14, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
I saw no inside stunts in that game. They were trying to get to him around the edge and they had some success but Brady just got rid of it to quickly.
by AttwaterForHOF on Jan 14, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Doom was being held almost every time Brady dropped back.
There was a great replay during the game. Brady dropped back and the camera angle was from the ground, almost over Dumervil’s shoulder with Brady and the ref in the backdrop.
The OT had Dumervil in a hug and was grabbing him – classic holding. And you could see the ref watching it all go down. Then Brady gets rid of the ball and Dumervil looks at the ref and throws his hands in the air as if to say, “No flag? What were you watching?”
And the official shrugs and says, “I didn’t see it.” But he did see it! You could see him watching the hold as the play was progressing. He just CHOSE not to call it.
I hate to say it, but our success today will hinge exclusively on whether the refs decide to call holding on the Patriots’ offensive line. If they do, then we win. If they don’t, it’s a blowout.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
There is a lot of offensive holding in every game and they can't call every single on of them
Rulebook is out of alignment with reality on the field every Sunday. They need to clarify the rules, because they can’t be enforced as written without ruining the game
I don't want them to call every incident.
Just call a few of them. I haven’t checked the gamebook, but I’d bet they weren’t called for holding once.
It would make sense if they only called holding if the outcome of the play was affected. But that would require discretion. And as soon as you give the refs discretion, then that discretion can be subordinated to an agenda. And then you have pro wrestling or the NBA.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Yea, everyone hooks Elvis around the neck and he almost never gets the call. Maybe they apply the rules differently to him because he is short. Like they apply the facemask rule differently to Tebow because he runs. Pretty crap.
by AttwaterForHOF on Jan 14, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
AJF
Wait a second – Denver’s success tonight will “hinge exclusively” on the refs – are you serious ? You’re not serious about this… right ?
When your team can’t get it done on the field – blame the refs.Oh boy…
Offensive holding could be called on every down, on every team for crying out loud – you want flags on every single play… ‘cause your guy couldn’t get to the quarterback ? Come on – if he’s really good, he’ll affect the outcome of the game… call or no call.
by profootballfan on Jan 14, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
He's not saying that.
Doom WILL make his presence felt, whether he gets to the QB or if he gets the holding call.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
Yeah...well...he did say that. Take a look see.
by profootballfan on Jan 14, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah...well...he did say that. Take a look see.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
Whoops.
Not trying to be a smartass. I messed up that reply.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
O.K. Got ya.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
No, I am serious.
I think if the officials don’t call the game fairly, they can absolutely determine the outcome of the game. And no degree of execution, game-planning or play-making can overcome unbiased officiating.
If you don’t believe this, then you’re naive.
As for tonight, here are the facts:
1) The Patriots can’t protect Brady without holding Dumervil and Miller.
2) Denver can’t win if they can’t put pressure on Brady.
If Denver pressures Brady, Denver wins. If not, New England wins. It really boils down to that. Therefore, the officials’ willingness to call a fair game will largely determine the outcome.
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 14, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
While listening to ESPN all I ever hear is Tebow can't do this and Tebow can't do that. This has been rampant for the last two weeks. [emphasis mine]
You’ve only been hearing this for two WEEKS? I’ve been hearing this for two YEARS!
Whoops. Meant to have the block quote:
While listening to ESPN all I ever hear is Tebow can’t do this and Tebow can’t do that. This has been rampant for the last two weeks. [emphasis mine]
by circasurvive on Jan 14, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
As Brady even said, the Ravens have beaten the Pats once in like 9 or 10 years.
Take a page out of the Ravens’ book and use it to hammer the Pats.
Not sure you wanna adopt their strategy. It’s been very loop sided in terms of our record against them.
Depth is great. Right up until you need it!!
mdierk ! Its is really great to see you!!
What a really fun and unexpected run this season has been!!
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