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No Contest: Broncos Overrun By Patriots 45-10

FOXBORO, MA - JANUARY 14:  Tim Tebow #15 of the Denver Broncos walks back to the bench after he was sacked in the second half by the New England Patriots defense during their AFC Divisional Playoff Game at Gillette Stadium on January 14, 2012 in Foxboro, Massachusetts.  (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)

FINAL

Category Broncos Patriots
Score 10 45
Rushing Yards
40 car. 144 yards (3.6 ypc) 30 car. 145 yards (4.9 ypc)
Passing Yards
108 363
Total Yards 252 509
3rd Down Conversions 7-18 3-6
T.O.P 33:23 26:37
Turnovers
1 2


The Broncos won the turnover battle. They won Time of Possession. The game wasn't even close. Tom Brady is a Hall of Famer for a reason and he showed it tonight - Brady went 26-34 for 363 yards and a playoff-record 6 touchdowns, leading the Patriots to a 45-10 win.

I know we all love the blame game, but tonight was a team loss - like many of the wins this year were team wins. Nothing was working tonight with the Broncos getting poor performances from all their key contributors. At some point, however, you need to tip your cap to the team on the other side - especially when they are 13-3 and come in as the AFC's #1-seed.

Star-divide

It's tough to swallow now - we are all disappointed - but somehow, some way, try and focus on what the Denver Broncos DID accomplish this season instead of what they failed to do tonight. At 5-16 since the start of 2010, the Broncos were going no where. They turned it around, went 8-5, won a playoff game and brought respectability back to Broncos football.

If you are old enough, you remember living through 39-20, 42-10 and 55-10. Those were Super Bowls. John Elway was the quarterback. The Broncos survived then, and we all will now.

Hold your heads high, Broncos Country, the Broncos are on the rise.

GO BRONCOS!

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It's been a fun year.

Quite the movie script season. This is hopefully just the beginning. Go Broncos!

by OTRWaldo on Jan 14, 2012 9:39 PM MST reply actions   4 recs

Absolutely right, John

Think of where we came from and how far we got.

Next year looks promising already!!

I just want to see the Broncos score LOTS of points, beat the SNOT out of the opponent, and walk away with a humble "God Bless". How about you?

by 83BroncoFan on Jan 14, 2012 9:43 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

Looks like or Oline

needs plenty of work as well as our DT position. We get no pressure on the QB up the gut.

MLB is a huge need. We need a real athlete in there.

by kimbertr on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't get too worried about the o-line

They had a nice year. I would say they are leaps and bounds better than what they were last year. Also they’re still young, three out of the 5 haven’t had a full offseason yet. They will get better.

by tiderfootball09 on Jan 14, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup... OLine is a bright spot... not a weakness

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:32 PM MST up reply actions  

They need to learn NFL-standard pass protection

But that is something most OLs need to learn out of college.

by ClarkFan on Jan 15, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Woodyard

Mays is a thunderous hitter when he doesn’t whiff. Woodyard is a surer tackler as well as being the best pass defender of the backers. I don’t care if he is “too small,” he finds the ball and makes plays. I’d only take him out to give him a blow, if he needed one.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Jan 15, 2012 1:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

I expected to see DJ Williams at Mike and Woody at Will. It was frustrating to see Mays play defense – he should’ve played ST exclusively last night.

This defense needs a pocket-collapsing DT. Hopefully, they can grab Josh Chapman at #25 in the draft and hopefully he could be that guy after being groomed to rotate with Bunkley. I’m not expecting Warren to play beyond next year, although if he’s healthy and good enough, I’ll take whatever he can give.

At safety, the Broncos must draft yet another. If nothing else, Moore needs to be challenged and Bruton may need to settle in on STs. He just isn’t a solid starter at SS.

I also hope 2012 will be Goody’s last year as the #2 CB. He’s been bad far more often than good.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:01 AM MST up reply actions  

The 2012 draft still needs to focus on defense

Current secondary is either old, hurt, or bad – needs something close to a ground-up rebuild. If there is an impact CB at #25, that could be a good pick (with DT the second choice for me).

by ClarkFan on Jan 15, 2012 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

This

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:01 AM MST up reply actions  

By the time Rafael Bush

By the time Rafael Bush was running around playing safety, it was already too late. The saddest thing is that the Broncos used a 2nd and 4th rounder on safeties this year alone.

by YouAreSignedIn on Jan 15, 2012 3:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Well towards the end Carter had begun to look like a starter

Moore is another story.

What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....

by British Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 8:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Carter is showing promise

Hopefully he comes back stronger soon

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

biting my tonge here

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

And a 2nd and 4th in 09. Ouch

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I great year

I think this was a great year! We did more than I expected by far. Now, time to draft one more fast big receiver and shore up our secondary so we don’t get crushed by the great QBs and this team will be back in the playoffs again next year!

Is it the 2012-2013 season yet!! :-)

by Snoogins on Jan 14, 2012 9:43 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

I like the CFL. :)

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope some CFL talent scouts were at the game tonight because ball could be decent in that league.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

We have the 25th pick.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

you were close, but I’m right.

Nice spot to trade down for a team in early round 2 looking to move up for a QB.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Assuming there is one worth taking, which I’m not sure there will be.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Foles or Tannenhill

Mediocre choices…

Atheist for Tim Tebow!

by CombatChuk on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

when you’re Seattle, you don’t have a choice. You have to get a QB.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

The 25th pick is like that 12-15 range where lots of trades usually go down.

I wouldn’t mind trading down for a second/third. The CB and RB class is deep this year. Broncos could easily snag David Wilson or Gilmore. Also I’d save getting a MLB in the draft. The broncos should go get Dan Connor from the Panthers. He would be an upgrade over Mays and would give Irving time to develope.

by tiderfootball09 on Jan 14, 2012 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Josh Chapman may be available at #25

The D needs to be able to collapse the opponent’s pocket. Brady’s jersey stayed nice and clean all night and that can’t happen. Once the pocket collapses and the pass rush forces Brady to move up, wham…here comes a MLB we don’t have yet on an A-gap blitz. Result? Sack.

That was missing last night and made the defense look worse than it was.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I’d trade down and make sure I had three 2nd rounders in order to find a new MLB, new CB and new RB with speed.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

trading down would be ideal. Don't think we'll get who we want where we're at.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Unlikely there will be anyone at 25 that we have to get.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

And if a top notch

big fella either O or D should still be around I would grab him in a second.

by kimbertr on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Joe Philbin. OC, Green Bay.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 PM MST up reply actions  

best available

We r weak across the board. No TE,but everything else is priority

by Mike@4th&99 on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

a steal in the second is better than a reach in the first...

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:06 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Ball is just fine for a practice squad RB to have around just in case.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:47 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The only thing worse than watching the game was having to listen to Simms and Nantz

Agreed about the need to replace Mays, who always seemed to be trailing the play. I would add Goodman, too, for the same reason.

On the other hand, several young players stepped up this year, and it should be interesting to see what happens after the next draft and free agency. Hope the team signs Bunkley and I’d like to see how Warren does next year after he rehabs. I also like Chris Harris, but think we need a new top-flight CB as Champ eventually transitions to safety.

More than anything else, though, I want to see how much Tebow improves after an offseason with good coaching.

It’s been a really entertaining year, Broncos; hope you continue to improve next year and get back into the playoffs.

by bill2975 on Jan 15, 2012 1:44 AM MST up reply actions  

The nice thing is

with the Broncos 22 mil under the cap right now, they will have plenty of room to do so :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 AM MST up reply actions  

disgusting way to finish the season

Proved the msm and everybody outside of Colorado right

by Bustafluff on Jan 14, 2012 9:43 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Seeing our D show so little effort was hard to stomach.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

True.

Our o line was seriously overmatched as well. Tebow spent half the game ducking and running for his life.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Franklin picked a bad time to play like a crappy rookie.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Ninkovich was schooling him like an English marm.

Complete with powdery wig and lacey frock.

I volunteer my unbroken hand to be transplanted to Von Miller prior to next weekend's game.

by TheMorseFile on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

And I guess that is what I take for solace from this.

We are a dang young team. We have some core there but are still needing to build this team up. Will be glad to see an offseason under alot of these young players belts.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

All true. Just wished we’d played harder tonight. Our guys showed little fight and quit very early.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah. They just looked complacent. That's the word I am looking for.

As soon as NE scored that first TD it seemed like they just said “Well we’re outgunned. Let’s just get this over with.” We need an Al Wilson on that side of the Ball. Von is a great player but we don’t have any leader on D once Dawkins goes.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Dawk needs to be done.

I love him but he can’t hold us hostage anymore. Time to cut bait with most of the old timers and keep bringing in the fresh bodies with higher ceilings. That’s how you rebuild so we may as well get to it.

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when Tebowmania runs wild on you!

by postpunk27 on Jan 14, 2012 9:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Even Colquit was sucking - 35 yard punts?

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would have tested the guys for drugs. The entire team seemed slow, for sure.

by Da Bum on Jan 15, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

True

but they did play last Sunday, while the Pats were very healthy and energetic coming off a bye. IMO it showed.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:07 AM MST up reply actions  

This was the most frustrating part of the night

With a little push up front and a little protection for TT thw game would have been more competitive. This game is won in the trenches and we were beat on both sides.

by A-Rom on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Right

Maybe in the short term, Harris can reclaim his spot at RT and Franklin can play LG until we can upgrade. Beadles can then be demoted to the utility lineman that he truly is and use him in special goal line packages where he can pull and free up a rushing Fannin, McGahee, or Tebow.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Franklin is too tall to play guard.. He had a good year, just a bad last game.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 15, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

But they were the ones carrying us all season,

not Tebow, remember?

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when Tebowmania runs wild on you!

by postpunk27 on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

who knows. Just sad to see us not play hard.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm stoked we were even playing tonight.

Our team made it to the elite eight, if you will. I don’t think anyone would have placed us there before the season. Here’s to next year :)

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when Tebowmania runs wild on you!

by postpunk27 on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Hopefully

we won’t be last year’s Chiefs and stink it up in the regular season. The schedule is tougher and defenses will have all offseason to sniff out the zone read and dive option crap. That’ll work against Oakland and that’s about it.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:12 AM MST up reply actions  

With an off season

a lot of things can happen, and i would say that 90% of them are good. Especially with young players. They will have time to go back and learn from the mistakes they made. This goes for the coaching staff also. I honestly don’t think the option offense will be the staple next season, it may be a “wrinkle” here and there, and we still have to take advantage of Tim’s unique skill set. But I fully expect TT to develop into the “passer” we need to keep defenses honest. If he can do that we have too many options (no pun intended) on Offense and that will give DC’s nightmares!

As for us being the Chefs, I am not worried about that at all. EFX >>>> than Poili, Haley, and even Pioli, Crennel. So glad they decided to keep Crennel , and from the “short season” of his work we know that KO is his “guy” :) Couldn’t be happier for the Chefs: 24-40 coach and a 15-25 QB = match made in heaven. Lets hope that marriage lasts!!!

Oakland is as dysfunctional as ever! With “special boy” Mark Davis trying to put his “stamp” on the team we can look forward to more inept play from them as well.

SD even with out any coaching changes have 19 FA’s they need to try to re-sign, and with AJ’s track record for keeping talent is could be "rebuilding time in SD as well!

I see a lot of positives going forward into next season and personally I CANT WAIT!!

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 8:41 AM MST up reply actions  

The only revival candidate is SD, and Spanos buried them for another year

The coach and GM walk around wearing “Fire Me” signs and he re-ups them. Wow……

by ClarkFan on Jan 15, 2012 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Great game plan by Patriots. Incredible season for us.

Anyone who is not satisfied with our team this year after a 4-12 season, is simply not a fan.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 14, 2012 9:43 PM MST reply actions  

game plan

Maybe it is sour grapes, but I felt like this game, along with many of our other cluckers this year seem to be as much about game plan as about execution (at least that is how it looks from the outside).

Case in point, two drives we pushed the pocket up the middle, brady struggled (one pick and one three and out drive). Pats adjust by going almost exclusivley shotgun, and our adjustment to that was . . . not finding another way to push the pocket from the middle. frustrating.

by brettden on Jan 14, 2012 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I didnt like the Offensive plan...

Regular runs were big gainers, the option/zone read stuff was getting eaten up, yet we still went with it. dumb.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jan 14, 2012 10:49 PM MST up reply actions  

The college plays didn't work the last time

and so I don’t see why McCoy bothered to use them this time. What made him think that seeing this offense a second time with 2 weeks off would produce a different result? The Pats were even more ready and flew around the field knowing what was coming before the snap.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Just wanted to come in and say "Good game."

The Broncos are definitely on the rise. See you back at our house next year.

"You wanna know which ring is my favorite? The next one." --Tom Brady

by Treima on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 PM MST reply actions  

Congrats to you. Class move.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Me too.

Well, it wasn’t really a “good game” by the Broncos, I do think the Broncos are capable of playing better than this and I don’t think we’ll see the Pats go up 35-7 by the half in next year’s regular-season match-up (as much as I would like to). Good luck next year.

by tossin on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I know the Broncos were NOT playing their A-game in any respect last night, but you guys have a team of young studs and emerging playmakers. I don’t think Tebow is the future of the team, but with or without him the AFC West would be ill-advised to discount Denver in 2012.

"You wanna know which ring is my favorite? The next one." --Tom Brady

by Treima on Jan 15, 2012 8:06 AM MST up reply actions  

For the Patriots, yes it was

If I was smart enough to coach in the NFL, I would’ve called a slightly different gameplan against your team. Granted, the Broncos would still have lost, but at least it would’ve actually been a “good game.”

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:15 AM MST up reply actions  

The best part of this is the coaching staff can now focus

on fixing the most glaring weaknesses and we should be a better team next year. 10-6 next year?

by frankencrank on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM MST reply actions  

My only problem

is our schedule looks tougher next year than it was this year.

by kimbertr on Jan 14, 2012 9:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Expectations?

Superbowl or bust every year…

No excuses, play like a champion…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I support the Falcons

but you may see that team regress with Carolina vastly improving. New Orleans isn’t going anywhere and Tampa Bay is a ship without a rudder. Pittsburgh’s going in the toilet, nowhere to go but down

Brad James

Follow me on Twitter

With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 9:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Season went way better then I thought it would...

Bad way to finish but at least we left Rothlisberger to watch the game on his couch. See you all in April for the draft.

Elway is in, Zimm is in, Little is FINALLY in but don't forget: Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis
For those who say "In the BCS, every game counts," the 2011 season is telling you to "shut up!"

by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM MST reply actions  

Great season, terrible ending, but I think deep down it shouldn’t really shock us. We were badly overmatched – we have some serious talent/depth problems on defense and an extremely young offense. Things are looking up though – a couple good drafts and some growth from the young guys on offense and things should improve.

by scooter17 on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM MST reply actions  

I don't care who they draft...

as long as Fox is in charge it will turn to the SOS!

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

SOS?

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he means Same Old Sh*t

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Jan 14, 2012 11:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Funny you should say that

Compared to most recent drafts this one produced some vital talent in some key areas (yes, we have other areas that need talent upgrades…).

Fox took the absolute worst D in the league, added a few key parts, put in charge an aggressive young coordinator, and viola, a respectable defense over night. Fox took a team that was horrid running the ball, adds an aggressive young tackle and a rebounding RB (and an unconventional QB that can run with the best of them) and viola, a real running threat team.

I do not see the Fox hate. Please explain exactly what the issue was with the draft? And compare that to recent drafts?

by Da Bum on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Conservative is good with a YOUNG team

That is the difference between young teams that win and young teams that get lambasted. Young guys are inconsistent and that inconsistency makes it hard to recover from mistakes. Being conservative has been GOOD for this year. We are not ready for a more open style YET! Give it time. Fox is not going to be McDaniels, but that is not a bad thing.

However, this thread was primarily about the draft and SOS in the draft. The point was that EFX handled a GOOD draft for us in an unusual year (FA was AFTER draft). I am not sure what Conservative and Predictable have to do with a draft. McDaniels was anything but and probably set this team back years.

by Da Bum on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Pats fan here, congrats on the season you guys have had. Can't wait to play rd 3 next

season! Best wishes during the off season.

Depth is great. Right up until you need it!!

by Vic85 on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 PM MST reply actions  

thanks!

I already made a promise to Pats Pulpit I wouldn’t visit whether we won or lost but while I don’t like you guys, this was a classy gesture on your part. I hope the Ravens beat you in the AFC Championship Game!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

don't worry. I went over there. and said kind words.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I can vouche for Zac

class all of the way! Good man!

by STBadly on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

lol. you weren't here earlier.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 9:55 PM MST up reply actions  

You replied to one of my comments, lol.

I was watching online and only hazarded visiting the Pulpit towards the end. C’mon man!

by STBadly on Jan 14, 2012 10:00 PM MST up reply actions  

lets just say I was the Von Miller of commentors.

I got a flag or too for personal fouls.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

It wont be a 45-10 shelacking

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:02 PM MST up reply actions  

No it won't...

…but I’ll take an ugly 20-17 win too.

by tossin on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Shit, compared to what just happened

I would take an ugly 20-17 loss right now

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

3 point losses are worse than blow-outs

because it opens up a million “what if’s”, all the things that couldv been slightly different to result in a W. Blow-outs have a sense of finality.

by spinz on Jan 15, 2012 12:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I would've been happy with a 20-17 loss

A blowout gives the appearance that you had no business making it that far.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 AM MST up reply actions  

That's cry-baby BS. This team fought hard all year...

to get where they did. They were 4-12 last season. I swear. What happened to the Bronco fans of old? My guess is you weren’t around to watch Steve Ramsey lead this team. Or how about a 55-10 blowout by Montana and company. We beat the reigning AFC Champion to get to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Sorry for the lecture but there are only 2 teams that make the SB and this team is not ready. Be grateful for what they accomplished and quit trying to take those accomplishments away from the team.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 15, 2012 10:26 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Tell that to the Raider and Charger fans who are lickin' their chops to talk to us

these guys weren’t even alive when Ramsey played in the ’70s.

I’m guessing you don’t live in California.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

The Raiders and Chargers didn't win the division.

And I tell it to the Raider fans up here every day. They choked. We won the division. We were the better team. see? I win.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 15, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Easy for you to say

you have a coach and a game plan and players to execute it…right now it looks like all we got is schooled.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 9:58 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You are early in the system.

It will take time…..I believe in you guys and I’m a Pats fan! Why can’t you? You beat the evil Stealers!

by STBadly on Jan 14, 2012 10:02 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

'Preciate the kind words, but go away, and let us wallow in our self pity...

I just wanna hurt on this for a while, so i can feel better later…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

you've actually helped me calm down a little with your classy comments.

put the world in perspective for me.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Not meant in a mean way...

Its just im not really in a mood to be cheered up…

But yes, very classy move. You’re always welcome back

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Have you seen Fox's system

I would call more like a disaster than a system. We beat about 1/2 the Steelers.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

That's not what it will say in the rcord books

and that’s what the Stealer fans want you to think. You beat them, it’s there, they can’t erase it. Good luck my man, I will leave till at least draft per request…

by STBadly on Jan 14, 2012 10:15 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Nah

Guys like you are always welcome around here! No need to stay away until the draft….

- Nick

"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu

by ncm42 on Jan 15, 2012 12:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Finally get Defense Coordinator continuity this year...

Haven’t had it since Larry Coyer in the 2003-2006… That should help, plus upgrades at MLB, CB and Safety

Atheist for Tim Tebow!

by CombatChuk on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

and...

defensive line and linebackers and offensive line and running backs and receivers and fullback and tight ends and maybe even quarterback.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

How about we replace Colquitt too while we are at it.

Really, you hate every position on our DIVISION WINNING, HOME FIELD ADVANCING team that was 4-12 drafting at #2 last year team? Really?

by Da Bum on Jan 15, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Mee too

This team is many drafts and many 45-10 blowouts away from being competitive with the best in the league. (Fox’s style of coaching also means the Broncos will not be on the winning side of a blowout in forever.) Get used to close wins against bad teams and blowout losses to the elite teams for the next 2-3 years until they fire Fox and bring in another McDaniels type.

by John in Castle Rock on Jan 15, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Might not... Allen on short list of several teams...

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

not after tonight

Elvis and Von: Smashing QBs since 2011!

by mdierk on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

This had more to do with

No talent, old, and injuries than Allen… look what he did with NO… that wont erase so quickly

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

The actual talent level, atheletic ability that it takes to get to this level is

extremely high. The overall “talent level” difference between teams is small, very small. What can be vastly different is experience and coaching. Denver doesn’t have much of either. Unless they have too much experience (old).

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Not buying...

Brady is 50 times the QB that… say… Colt McCoy is.

Cant tell me he is only marginally more talented…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

See...

coaching and experience. Yeah there is definitely a difference, Brady is driven!

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Im going to put you up against it...

Brady is only marginally more talented than Tebow?

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Uhh...

Brady has been in the league how long? And his coach is who? Tebow has been in the league how long, and who is his coach.? If you don’t think that has some bearing, I have some land in Florida for sale…near some water. Not saying Tebow will ever be a Brady, not many are, but his experience and COACHING certainly play a role here.

by Mee on Jan 15, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Looking forward to a great off season after a great run

We need to acquire some veteran leadership and depth to surround this talented young core, but I think we go into next year with most of the tools we need to stay competitive.

by broncinoz on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM MST reply actions  

Hope my comment this early isn't unwelcome...

but I’m a Pats fan, and you guys need to keep your chin up! You guys have a good, competitive team and I see you guys competing for many years in the future! I loved my visit to Denver and my friends out there! Best of luck to you!

by STBadly on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

it is acceptable

and thanks, even though you’ve probably been to Denver more times than I have, the Broncos have a regional following, kind of like you guys do in Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont! I’m actually in Utah!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

What part of Utah, if you don't mind me asking?

I know people in AZ, and I had a layover in Utah, which made me curious to visit there…

by STBadly on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I live in Manti, Utah

which is right in the center of the state. I have had dealings in Arizona. I served a Mormon mission in Tucson, as well as El Paso, Texas

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

You're in Manti?

I’m in Vegas, but have a lot of family in Mt Pleasant…

- Nick

"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu

by ncm42 on Jan 15, 2012 12:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Sweet!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 9:37 AM MST up reply actions  

who dropped the ball on scouting .rahim moore????

How could one of the highest rated safeties in the draft fall so low…

by Bustafluff on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

he'll need to move to CB.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

you said it......

highest rated equals everybody dropped the ball….or else the entire draft sucked.

by idahobronc on Jan 14, 2012 10:15 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Happens every year.

If the “consensus” were accurate all that often, drafting would be easy.

There are many things you cannot measure about a guy. This size of his desire to succeed and how he competes when the chips are down, or the pressure is on. No college teams have the consistent talent that the NFL teams do. As a result, it is hard to determine how a guy will hold up under a continuous barrage.

The kid is only one year into his career. Maybe there is an injury we do not know about, or a family issue, or something with the coaches, or he hit the rookie wall a little harder than most, or he just needs more time for it to “click” mentally. He was disappointing this year, but only because we had such high expectations. We will see what happens.

by Da Bum on Jan 15, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

I personally didnt think he would be that good at all in the draft.

He didn;t seem very physical, and his ball skills weren’t that impressive. Jaquan Jarret was the only safety in the draft (well him and Robert Sands) that I really liked.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Great season...

…but that was freakin’ embarrassing. It didn’t look like ANYONE showed up for that game.

by leifolson on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM MST reply actions  

Not a Belichick fan

at all, don’t care for the guy, but pitting Fox against him is like putting Pee Wee Herman in the ring with Sugar Ray Lenard. I wouldn’t show my face in Denver for a long, long time if were a Denver Bronco coach in any capacity. McCoy, it will be a while before he is a head coach and Allen may as well not even show up for his interview. DISGUSTING display of NOTHING!

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

We blew our proverbial load last weekend.

Simple as that. It was still a fun year. Can’t wait to see what we look like next season. GB2

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when Tebowmania runs wild on you!

by postpunk27 on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 PM MST reply actions  

That's what I think too

Just spent all their emotion in that game, a la the ravens in all those games they lost after big wins

by elliottw on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I blame the Rams for distracting Dennis Allen this week

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by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM MST reply actions  

How ironic

is it that both distractions have the same team in common. First McD coming from there to return to N.E. and of course the Allen situation. We were doomed before we ever set foot on the field.

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when Tebowmania runs wild on you!

by postpunk27 on Jan 14, 2012 9:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Bustafluff, why did they run McD out of Denver? That's right, because of a filming

scandal. So, let’s not be selective when we assess the value of inside knowledge.

by oorange blood on Jan 14, 2012 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

You really believe that?

You don’t think it was the all the losing and the blowout loss to the Raiders that did it? Some little filming scandal?

by John in Castle Rock on Jan 15, 2012 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

next year will not be any easier

Lol looking at that schedule again… Yikes

by Bustafluff on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

It's rough beyond a doubt

W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!

by Broncotodd on Jan 14, 2012 10:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone else bothered that

Niko Koutivides had a good game?

He lost out to Nate Webster in 2008…

Atheist for Tim Tebow!

by CombatChuk on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 PM MST reply actions  

haha

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 PM MST up reply actions  

No. Niko was no. 90 and only played ST.

No. 50 was Rob Ninkovich. A 34 OLB/43 Sam LB.

by Revenge of the Fallen on Jan 14, 2012 10:55 PM MST up reply actions  

LOLOL!!!

That’s so funny!!! I’m sorry, I know you just simply got the name wrong, but I have to laugh at the thought of Niko Koutivedes having a good game against anyone. Rob Ninkovich on the other hand.

"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!

"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.

"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!

by PaleHorse78 on Jan 14, 2012 11:36 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Really great season

Really looking foward to seeing what this team can do with a full off season of Tebow and Co. together. Hopefully Fox and Dennis Allen will be able find some guys that fit the defense and develop the existing players.

by coloradosportsfan55 on Jan 14, 2012 9:58 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

And

screw Donovon McNabb

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 PM MST reply actions  

How is this post not green? O_o

Seriously, this was awesome.

Go Pats. Celtics. Red Sox. Bruins.
Brady. Pierce. Thomas. How you doing?

by Tai on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

cause it's long and were tired. but I rec'd it off your rec.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

same

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I read the end

and rec’d off of your rec of his rec

Coach John Fox - "Timmy is fine. He's done this his whole life. It's the rest of the guys that are learning it."

by RichBoysInk on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Okay folks. It's safe to read now. It's green.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll rec this

then I’ll wreck Brady’s wife

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

she's already been ravaged by horny men

Brady’s only the latest to ride the village bicycle

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:17 PM MST up reply actions  

about half a bottle of Jack Daniels.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I am a journalist and I cite my sources

but every now and then you have to use common sense, are any supermodels anywhere virgins? Show me a virgin supermodel, and I’ll show you oceanfront property in Wyoming

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

This is the best i could do Father

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

then I got to page 2. Here you go. Virgin Supermodels.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:31 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

looks pretty sleazy!

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

atleast you know what it looks like. Now where is this ocean front property?

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:44 PM MST up reply actions  

go near the Flaming Gorge

and build a ditch by your house in Rock Springs or Green River, Wyoming :)

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:01 PM MST up reply actions  

That chick jeter was dating

was supposedly not very slutty, not even giving it up for jeter. Something like that.

But I am sure you ate right about most. And more important than the number of men with brady’s wife is that she dated leo decaprio before him. That had to be tough to put into the past…gilbert grape.

by TheMascotArmy on Jan 16, 2012 12:08 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

hey man

a worked in bike is a bike that knows how to please

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

So Tim should take Katy Perry up on that date?

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Overwhelmingly offensive.

" Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked" -Psalm 1
"God tolerates even our stammering, and pardons our ignorance whenever something inadvertently escapes us – as, indeed, without this mercy there would be no freedom to pray." -- John Calvin

by JohnCalvinKnox on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

amen

Atheist for Tim Tebow!

by CombatChuk on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

wow. should be a Post. very good words.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

We can pick apart the details of the loss tonight, or...

just appreciate that this team SUCKED last year. Nice job to get this far!

Great start on a 3 year plan EFX…..might want to take some time on McCoys’s future…..not much creativity there. Last week was great and then we go right back to runball.

W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!

by Broncotodd on Jan 14, 2012 10:00 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Well Mee

we would have won 9 games in the regular season if Orton didn’t suck, he’s the sole reason we lost to the Titans, that was a stupid comment on my part to match your stupid comment

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Well Brad,

I am not exactly sure where you stand on this but whenever they get blown out it sucks. And they do it more than any other team in the league. Check the point differential. If you don’t think it sucks, fine. I do! Nothing stupid about it…just my point of view. I suppose you enjoy the blowouts.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:36 PM MST up reply actions  

not really

but does that change the successful season we have. I am a freelance sports statistician and even I know you have to look at the whole picture if they are to be effective. The point differential bothers me sometimes, but it is much greater to look at the things we have accomplished. We were rebuilding and made the playoffs anyway, how’s this for statistics, ever since that fraud Orton was benched, we went 8-5, that’s a winning percentage in the 60s

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Jets, Raiders, and Bears had winning records when the Broncos beat em

Oh, and we beat the 12-4 Steelers in the postseason

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

then we go right back to runball

This is Foxball, not McCoy ball.

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Now let the REAL offseason begin.

Thank you Broncos for an exciting season to watch.

Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.

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2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Jan 14, 2012 10:01 PM MST reply actions  

Its been a fun year

Now lets find some great players in the draft and FA and return to the playoffs next year

by trumanj on Jan 14, 2012 10:02 PM MST reply actions  

2012 here we come

Wow was at the game that was embarrassing Brady is just absolutely incredible. Just starting to feel my limbs now

by KansasBronco on Jan 14, 2012 10:05 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

I hope you at least like the Pats a little or

that had to be one bitter situation to be in. Sounds like at least you appreciate Brady. Like him or not he surgically removed all testicles on the visiting team.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

With a tougher schedule ahead, I'm not as optimistic as you

Hopefully, we’re not the 2010 Chiefs.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

We had a "tough" schedule this year

Thats why they play the games. And the 2010 Chiefs didnt do too bad either.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to next year and see how this team will improve.

Also, aren’t we switching to orange unis next year?

People said you couldn't, people said you can't, and you did.

by moondoggie12 on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 PM MST reply actions  

yep.

hcamhfcolanholanwsanvlaplayoffsljahnanlanvamwehpncwnwlnsuperbowlljcanlncnfjlhwvjdlvknhsglsjvscandiceswanepoelolkjmvpjaofchajhvajchajhflawhgak

Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Another pats fan here.

Its hard for me to say Good Game, because I know you guys didn’t see a good game from the Broncos, and it seems like I am mocking the fanbase…. You guys have a talented team, and coming from a half raider fan, that should be the highest compliment. John Fox is a great coach. An excellent pick up. No doubt you guys will help make the AFC West division much stronger next year. D. Thomas looks very talented, and for Tebow’s first string of starts of the year, he did pretty well, and will probably develop his arm next year too. Not to mention he is a bonafide leader, which is extremely important in a QB. You guys have a bright future.

So cheers from a Pats fan, and while I would rather the Raiders face the Pats next year in the playoffs (assuming the pats make it, which I am sure of), I am definitely looking forward to our next Bronco-Patriot matchup.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:08 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

thanks

but how can someone be a Raiders/Pats fan? Darryll Stingley and Jack Tatum? The tuck rule?

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

My Dad (pats fan) and step dad (raider fans).

I respect the hell out of both of them. And grew up rooting for both teams.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I am interested in

how you could have possibly watched that game and then call Fox a great coach?

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

He is coaching agianst the best of the best.

and the pats had an extra week to scheme against you guys. Fox just got out coached. He is a fine coach for you guys. imho

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:25 PM MST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

Kidding right?

Like the Pats expected us to win and were scheming specifically against us for a whole extra week????

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I was very scared before the game. lol

And that is the truth. But you guys know your coach much more than I do. But I think he did fine with what he have.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he wasn't drastic enough...

You don’t stop brady, you need to hang with him…

45-10 hurts alot more when you couldn’t even run in the early going

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah Im sure.....

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I see...

you want Fox to continue coaching the one team that has had the Pats number in recent years, I think I see where that is going. Good one.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:29 PM MST up reply actions  

He's just a placeholder

He was brought in to right the mess McDaniels left, which if you compare this year to last, he’s done an outstanding job. Dennis Allen will be the Broncos next coach

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I think the Patriots would love to play

all 16 regular season games next year against the Broncos.

by John in Castle Rock on Jan 15, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

I would have had no problem giving credit to the Patriots

Then they go and have Brady punt the ball on 3rd down. Just finish the game out. Don’t use your QB in a stupid stunt. They have a really good team, but why did they need to do that?

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Completely agree with this...

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

They did that

because it catches your defense, who was set to blitz the hell out of the OL, off-guard and the pats defense can get great field position because you had no one back there.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

It was 45-10

Why the hell would field position matter at that point in the game? Just run out the clock.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 14, 2012 10:15 PM MST up reply actions  

He kicked it, and then YOU guys can run out the clock and maybe get a score.

Either way, the clock will run out. Its called a quick kick. You catch the opposing defense off guard, in order to gain field position. its a strategic move, and the situation (being up 45-10, and that you were about to all out blitz Brady) called for it.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Really?

Field position matters in the last 3 minutes of a game when your up 5 touchdowns? Good to know.

And like I said below, just call a run play and have your PUNTER punt the ball. It’s not that hard. There’s no need to have your QB punt the ball.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Why even bother risking an injury no less?

Holy crap the saved ONE play. get over it man, they punted it on 3rd down. SO FREAKIN WHAT. You guys got the ball back. they didn’t do it to say “You guys can’t even stop us. lolololololol.” They did it because A) it catches you off guard, B) you guys were about to blitz the hell out of Brady which can be an unforseen injury for someone, C) Its called a quick kick, and many teams have done it before. But when the pats do it, all of a sudden it’s classless? Give me abreak man.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t say any of that. I said when they were up 45-10 it’s not necessary. I’m not saying it’s not a good, strategic move. And for the record, I hated how we started the fight at the end of the game. Guess it cancels out the punt.

Whatever. Better team won.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

And running the ball is?

Your not making any sense.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

This is so stupid...

Run a draw to protect Brady from the blitz.

Could be a good play if its in that area and the game is close and they are making it seem like they are going for it, and then punt over our rush, and etc. etc.

When and how they did it was stupid, and unnecessary… And classless

No strategic value

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

run the ball and risk injury for the RB or one of our OL?

If they make the first down, you would call them classless. Either way, t seems the pats don’t win the whole “classless” battle from anyone.

They punted it on 3rd down. And you guys got the ball back. I don’t understand how that is classless.

They did it because A) it catches you off guard, B) you guys were about to blitz the hell out of Brady which can be an unforseen injury for someone, C) Its called a quick kick, and many teams have done it before. But when the pats do it, all of a sudden it’s classless?

But yeah, if they get the first down by running it, you would still be up in arms. You guys got the ball back, and you can run the clock out, or try and get more points. I don’t understand what is so classless about this.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

the game was already over.

No need for the pats to run the ball, or throw it. There is just no need. No need to risk injury or get any yards or points. Catch the defense off guard by quick kicking it, and just let the game ride down.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Then kneel it...

It flies in the face of conventional wisdom… 3rd down represented 40 seconds of game clock or a timeout…

strategy would dictate that you make the opponent either eat the clock or burn the timeout… Not save them both! Do you watch football at all?

A kneel down is the perfect strategical play there… no risk of injury, move the clock make them take the time out, max cover punt. Its literally been done that way for decades…

But the pats are special… they get to do whatever they want…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:38 PM MST up reply actions  

and thats what pisses me off about it

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

They get to do whatever they want?

When they hire McDaniels before the Broncos-Pitt game, the media and the LEAGUE jumps ALL over it, even though this has been done plenty of times in the past. But when the PATS do it, “oh hold on a sec the pats just did this, we need to put a stop to it.” Not to mention people, and even professional WRITERS saying the pats cheated. Whatever the pats do? Gets scrutinized by everyone else.

Now about the kneeling thing. Again, what is the big difference here? Instead of kneeling it, he punts the ball. Kneeling it would run the clock down, and punting the ball did the same thing (only it probably ran MORE of the clock down considering it was a punt) and you guys get the ball back. Thats the only difference. You guys getting the ball back.

I fail to see how “classless” that is.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

a lot of the time

perception is reality and Belichick, reclusive as he is, often does not get the benefit of the doubt from the MSM

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Its not classless....

Pats dont need to step aside for anyone. Again, Elway punted several times. Nothing wrong with it.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Um, I usually am of the opinion that the Pats' run up the score etc BUT

Did anyone else notice that down near our goalline up 42-10 they ran three straight times? Brady could easily gone for the record and thrown #7 but they didn’t. not only that, after that last FG they did nothing but run the ball. Come on guys its fine to be mad at the outcome, but quite honestly that could have been in the 60’s. So for once, don’t go and blame the other team for ‘doing us wrong’ because that wasn’t the case. We got beat, and it could have been much worse but wasn’t. Don’t go around making stupid accusations like this!

Thank you Broncos for such a fantastic year! Thank you for coming together as a TEAM! Thank you for giving us a reason to believe again! I love you guys!!!

by Bronco Mike on Jan 15, 2012 12:31 AM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Thanks Bronco Mike.

And yeah good point about running it 3 strait times.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 12:33 AM MST up reply actions  

this is like saying that throwing 50 yrd bombs while way up way late

isn’t classless because lots of QBs air it out all the time… Its situation dependent

Its not the fact the Brady punted thats classless, its when he punted…

Read a M’Fn convo before butting in…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Im pretty sure Elway punted it late in the game as well. Im not positive, but im sure he did.

And now its a question of WHEN? The game was over, he gave the ball to your offense instead of continuing the drive (if its a matter of when and not brady actually punting…..).

And I guess that is classless….?

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Dude, how thick are you...

This is my last word, and im going to try to sum it up quick because we both have better things to do.

You are obviously very classy, and have a deep love for your team, same as me, so i can respect that…

The reason i am upset is because i have the warrior ethos, and the only things worth having are those you have to work for…

I wanted Brady to treat 3rd and 10 as if it mattered. Try to pick up the 1st, try to run the clock, try to utilize that down to better your chance of winning… Out of respect for the Broncos, and the sanctity of the game, you should play every down as if it matters. The Pats wasted a down.

Thats why im upset. I feel disrespected by that punt because the defense didnt deserve to get off the field.

I’m sure thats why Von took his cheap shot, he knew that he should be playing that down for real, not a gimmick punt.

Im man enough to admit when my team is classless… See tweet made right after that play/fight… i would hope that someone like you would be able to as well, and not blindly defend it based on “strategy” and “smarts”

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I wanted Brady to treat 3rd and 10 as if it mattered. Try to pick up the 1st, try to run the clock, try to utilize that down to better your chance of winning… Out of respect for the Broncos, and the sanctity of the game, you should play every down as if it matters. The Pats wasted a down.

They already won. There was no point.

And I understand what your feeling. Trust me. But i think we all know that the game was over, and the defense gave it there all. One down won’t make a difference.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Nevermind...

You keep trying to bash me over the head with the same reasons why it was clearly the best possible play to call in that situation….

As if QBs have never been blitzed on 3rd and 10, or as if it isn’t football, the most violent game in america, and as if the kicking game isn’t the most dangerous aspect of the whole sport (new kick-off rule changes)…

Keep living in La La Land, and keep getting spoiled, and brace for the fall, because life without Brady is going to be very difficult, just like life without Elway/Marino/Simms/Kelly/Manning…

In your mind Belicheck is the greatest strategical coach, and all his decisions are right (going for it on 4th vs. Indy), when all i see is a pompous ass.

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Shrug
In your mind Belicheck is the greatest strategical coach, and all his decisions are right (going for it on 4th vs. Indy), when all i see is a pompous ass.

PM had taken that defense for two consecutive td drives. That D couldn’t even stop the worst offense from scoring again.

Also, they had previously gone for it on a 4th and 1 vs the Falcons in 2009 in their own 28.

by Revenge of the Fallen on Jan 14, 2012 11:15 PM MST up reply actions  

My point exactly...

I can’t remember the last time i went to an opponents blog, and trolled around, then again, i wouldn’t put it past a Pats fan…

Let me guess… Fan since ’01?

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:17 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

You’re alright…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Ive been a fan since 06 if that means anything.

And thats because I didnt get into football until I was….. 15.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, it means your a bandwagon fan

I’d like to see how much of a fan you are when the Pats start to suck again. This explains why you claim to be a Raiders fan also

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

If I wasn't interested in football when the pats were winning the 3 superbowls

I highly doubt I am a bandwagon fan. sorry I’m a victim of being young. I wasn’t born in the 80’s where I could watch the 90’s pats. I wasn’t interested in football until 2006, 2 years after the pats won their last superboal. I began rooting for the Raiders around the same time, and they were having losing seasons.

Don’t call me a damn bandwagon fan.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah thats a bandwagon fan

You have to root for a winner. So you hedge your bets by cheering on the Pats, while cheering on the Raiders who have sucked since forever. If you’re a fan once the pats head back to mediocrity, then I’ll give you some credit, but until then, dont come around saying “my team” about the Raiders or the Pats. I have respect for real Raiders fans, they’ve stuck around for all the years of shittyness without having to resort to cheering for the damn Patsies.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

I was fucking YOUNG and wasn't previously interested in football!!!

When the pats were in the 01 superbowl, I remember the cartoons. I wasn’t even particularly interested in the 03 and 04 superbowls. I don’t need to take this shit from you. This is fucking histerical. I have been loyal to both teams through good and bad times. I was 15 fucking years old (2006) when I became interested in football. How the fuck am I supposed to root for a pats team that has been loosing at the time?

And then, I rooted for the Raiders in their loosing seasons. This is also funny, as you say that I am a bandwagon fan of them too, despite me rooting for them during their horrible seasons. I stuck through fucking Russel!

I root for both teams because my dad is a pats fan, and my step dad is a Raiders fan, and I have tremendous respect for both of them. Through them, I began rooting for both teams.

Calikula, Im sorry to say but you are dead wrong. I plan on sticking by both teams until I die. Im sorry if I was born to fucking early to get your fucking praise, but I can’t help it. People like you need to stop being ignorant assholes, and accept that their are YOUNG fans out there who have not had the luxury of liking one or two teams who have been loosing. Sorry.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

haha nice rage post

way to lose your cool. I can tell you’re young.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

I raged because you are accusing me of being a bandwagon fan.

Well… it was a dry rage…. not spewed with anger more than frustration…

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Sure it was. Hence all your F bombs

You lost your cool. Go prove your loyalty to whatever flavor of the week team you follow, I have a sneaky suspicion you’re more of a Bronco hater than fans of these teams, given that both of these teams have intense rivalries with the Broncos and they have given them fits for the past couple of years

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I do sort of hate you guys.

But at the same time I am not a Bronco hater. I find it hard to hate on anyone. I know you will immediately say that because i don’t REALLY hate you that I’m not a real Raider fan. You can say that if you like, although it will be very untrue again. Im following the Raiders still too. I heard they were interviewing Tedd Bowls, who used to be associated with McKenzie. I personally don’t like it, but I don’t expect them to make a move till after the playoffs.

In any case, its hard for me to hate anyone. I have a good reputation on the Jets blog, Chiefs blog, miami and bills blog, and this blog. I don’t go to the Chargers blog. I feel like they can be a bunch of pricks but ah well. I’ll visit at some point.

And fine, I lost my cool for a bit. I was out of frustration though. That part is true.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Well why come to a

Broncos board then? Go scream on the Faders or the Patsies boards. Cuz we could care less about either of those two teams :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

This is funny

I can see him just shaking at his keyboard. Man, between this guy and Raider way this is making me feel much better about last night

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

0.o

Im not shaking…..

Your accusing me of being a bandwagon fan, and I am defending myself because that statement is 100% untrue. Unless you are trolling…..

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Im trolling?

Im right at home here at MHR. You’re the one in our house, remember?

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Okay fine. Fair point.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

The only troll is you

your on a BRONCOS board dude….if ya cant handle it …GET LOST LMAO

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

How am I trolling?

Cal accused me of being a bandwagon fan. I think I have a right to defend myself. 0.o

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

the only reason your here is to rub in the Pats win

or talk about one of our rivals then you should expect hostility. Quit your crying or leave. Simple. We dont care about the Pats we dont care about the Faders. I personally dont care about you OR your opinion. This is a BRONCOS board. Talk broncos or don’t talk at all :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

I came here

and I read that someone called me a bandwagon fan. I didn’t come here to rub in the pats win. I came here to check if anyone responded to my post about the Brady punt thing (and instead I found a response on calling me a bandwagon fan).

So you have a completely misconception of why I am here. Again, not here to troll.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I called you a bandwagon fan

because you come on before Raider games or before Pats games claiming both as “your teams.” You cant have it one way or the other. Claim one single team and say the other is your 2nd fav, but dont say my team for both. For example, I like the Texans for their ties to the Broncos, and their TE graduated from my HS, but I LOVE the Broncos. Hence, the Broncos are “my team.” I will never get on an Indy board and claim the Texans are “my team” and then get on the same board before a Broncos/ Colts game and say the Broncos are “my team.” To me, that screams bandwagon fan because youre claiming one team and then another. It looks worse when one team has sucked for forever and a day and the other has been awesome for over a decade

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Im sorry but I can't do that.

I am tied to both teams equally and strongly. I know people like you cannot understand. I have told why, but I know that can’t be enough for you guys. I have defended this notion for years, and even Raider fans have accepted this. They know that I am loyal to the Raiders, as I am loyal to the Pats. It is the way it is.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Nope. All of that is extremely untrue.

Except when Brady does leave, I am sure we will be seeing some years that are not as good (although having Mallet and Hoyer is very promising). I am not spoiled, and I am aware of many fans that cry from a win that was like 20-17, and I shake my heads at them. I dont think BB is the greatest strategist ever, but he is damn good. I thought going for it on 4th down vs. indy was horrible.

Now, The game was over. there was nothing to prove. It was just a punt. Thats all it was. No form of disrespect there. Just doing it because the game was over, and there was no point in trying to drive down the field. No point in running the ball, or throwing it or trying to get the first. There was no need. It was a punt with 1 minute left, and thats all it was.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

convo was too long, and I am lazy.

So I will not read it. My apologies are effusive and sincere……(sheesh)

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jan 14, 2012 10:55 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

The Pats didn’t need to stop doing anything. Brady could have thrown a touchdown there to Gronk if that’s what you would’ve wanted…..nothing wrong with the punt

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by Idaho Nate on Jan 14, 2012 11:12 PM MST up reply actions  

It didn't run more clock you dolt...

The clock stops when the ball is whistled dead after a punt…

As for the Pats cheating my hiring McD thing, i personally, on this thread, said it had no effect.

Do i think its fair that McD gets to contend still even after losing out with the Rams? Ya, i do. And the league is gonna ban that sleezy trash this year.

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah after it. But okay your right. Punt did not run the clock out more.

And I know the league will ban it, simply because the pats did it, and everyone is howling about it.


Now about the kneeling thing. Again, what is the big difference here? Instead of kneeling it, he punts the ball. Kneeling it would run the clock down, and punting the ball did the same thing and you guys get the ball back. Thats the only difference. You guys getting the ball back.

I fail to see how "classless" that is.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

We didn't want the ball back...

We wanted to keep fighting to the last whistle…

we didn’t need the ball back a down early…

Its about honor and respect for your opponent… things Brady and Beli obviously know not of…

Which is the whole point i’m making. Respect us enough to not make it about a stupid gimmick, and ill respect you enough to not call you classless

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Its about honor and respect for your opponent… things Brady and Beli obviously know not of…

But when they continue to score, coaches and players and writers ALL complain that they are running up the score, and are being classless. lol

We didn’t want the ball back…

We wanted to keep fighting to the last whistle…

we didn’t need the ball back a down early…

It was one down early. “Oh god they are classless….” They gave you guys the ball, and you can still keep fighting. They didnt punt it to say “you guys cant stop us, so we are just going to punt the ball.” They punted it because:

A) it catches you off guard, B) you guys were about to blitz the hell out of Brady which can be an unforseen injury for someone, C) Its called a quick kick, and many teams have done it before. But when the pats do it, all of a sudden it’s classless?

And D) They are done with the offensive possessions. You said you wanted the defense to keep fighting. Why? I mean I understand but the pats were just running the football. the game is OVER. There is nothing to prove for your defense, or our offense. Nothing. It was an early punt. Thats all it was. If thats really being classless to you that[s really just nitpicking if anything. Classless is when we are going all out throwing the ball and scoring more points with 1 minute left in the game. Not punting early.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:01 PM MST up reply actions  

WOAH, righ there Jack’sAxe. A team has NEVER hired a coach off of an eliminated team’s staff during a playoff run, let alone their opponents head coach. I guarantee you that move is made illegal before next year’s playoffs.

by YouAreSignedIn on Jan 15, 2012 5:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm sure it will be, and that move has been done before. Im sure of it.

The pats hired McD before your game against the steelers. They hired him because he had experience as the pats OC, and that O’’Brien will be leaving. Keep in mind that this is completely legal now, and now they will change it because the league whined about it when the pats happen to do it.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Kneel!??!?!

It wasn’t the end of the game. Unless the Broncos decided to kneel too, it’s ridiculous to expect the Pats to do that. Has any team in NFL history ever kneeled before going to the end of a half?

by tossin on Jan 14, 2012 11:41 PM MST up reply actions  

His point was they punted so as to avoid injury....

So kneel if thats the motive…

Did you actually read the convo, or just let your moutharrhea take over?

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats just a thing to consider.

My point was that punting the ball on 3rd down means nothing with 1 minute (?) left in the game.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Dude, you're still around?

Isn’t it past your bed time?

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 15, 2012 12:02 AM MST up reply actions  

What kind of insult is that? lol

And yes I am around still. And I’m 20 years old. I think I don’t have a set time to go to bed. Besides… I drank a lot of root beer….

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 12:12 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh look at this.....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d826026ef/article/belichick-marches-to-beat-of-own-drum-in-blowout-of-broncos?module=HP11_content_stream

Herndo gets banged up, it was 45-10, and yeah im sure the risk on injuring their RB or OL was factor in on the punt. There was no need to run it anymore, or even get any more yards. Game was over. I know some of you would dub it classless because you wanted your defense to get the stop. But with that late in the game, how much of that would even matter? BB seemed to want to take the health of his players, and take into consideration that the game was about to end, over some meaningless defensive stop.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 12:18 AM MST up reply actions  

No matter what the pats do

they get drilled for it. Every time.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 12:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Back to the original point

Then why do it? The situation didn’t call for it.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 15, 2012 12:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Already went around this.

Read back at my posts, and you should figure it out.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 12:13 AM MST up reply actions  

DUde

I can imagine having this same conversation with someone who wouldn’t like the idea the Pats decided to keep scoring. “The situation didn’t call for Brady to be in the game in the 4th and still flinging it”.

I can’t necessarily call you wrong, but your viewpoint proves the Pats’ fans right considering the issue the general football public has had with the Pats in the first place. We really can’t win. I talked to a lotta fellas who talk as if they’d be just fine with the Pats punting on early downs. At some point, why should we care? IT’s already been explained and you say the situation “didn’t call for it”. Anyone could say that about an alternate play.

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by Tai on Jan 15, 2012 12:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Lose/Lose...

…if Brady’s pulled, some argue that the Patriots aren’t taking the other team seriously (and Brady doesn’t want to leave the field. Neither does Tebow.). If he stays, then there’s questions about why he’s going through unnecessary risk.

If they throw up 5 scores in the 4th, it’s running up the score. If they run, that’s fine, although that’s still not taking the game seriously enough for some and they might as well kneel (although when is it acceptable for a team to kneel?).

My argument: The Patriots have not put together a full 60 minute performance all season. That’s indisputable. Not once did they put a team away early and not allow them to find life at the end of the game. They needed a complete game for themselves and for the sake of their competitive spirits. If that involves punting on 3rd down, so be it. It’s part of their tool kit of plays they have utilized in real game experiences against an extremely high quality team in the playoffs.

I feel like there’s little the Patriots could have done without having some party skew their actions as being classless. Can’t throw it, can’t kneel it, can run it but that’s clearly phoning it in, so with the game in hand, I don’t think it really mattered. Both teams threw in the towel midway through the 3rd quarter.

Was the punt necessary? No. Wasn’t it a sign of disrespect to the Broncos? I don’t think so either.

by Richard Hill on Jan 15, 2012 12:52 AM MST up reply actions  

They did not play 60 mins. Like Branch said, they played good 45 mins till the 4th qtr.

by Revenge of the Fallen on Jan 15, 2012 8:10 AM MST up reply actions  

alot of teams and coaches

like to use the “play for 60 minutes” phrase as rhetoric. When bellicheck says it, hes not kidding.

by spinz on Jan 15, 2012 12:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I just thought it was funny

they punted on 3rd down, is this the CFL :)

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

The Pats took a timeout

Cause they saw the blitz I don’t see the big deal. And you have to admit, that was a solid punt from Brady.

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by Tai on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

The Broncos did that several times with Elway as QB

Lower risk of injury than a normal punt, since there aren’t guys running into each other at full speed. And if you are just going to give up the 3rd down play, why not get rid of the ball and gain some field position?

by ClarkFan on Jan 15, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Elway had 7 punts in his career for a 36 yd average....

They do it to save Brady from getting blitzed on a third down. Seemed like a smart play to me.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

up the gut and punt then....

Just like every other team in the league…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 PM MST up reply actions  

If they’re really scared for Brady, just run it, or better yet, take him out!

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

That would risk more injury for our patriot players too.

What is so wrong with the punt? Its a damn punt that gives you guys the ball. What is so classless about that? You can still run the clock out or get a score.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

It's just stupid

What if Tom had pulled a leg muscle when he kicked the ball?

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

the ref would throw a falg on his trainer for not making him stretch

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Or the ref would penalize Brady for roughing the kicker. 15 yards and a first down.

by emd2k3 on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't think that is as likely as

a pats OL getting injured, or our RB getting injured.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd rather he punts then scores again.

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

same can be said about our option crap

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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.

by Zac Man on Jan 14, 2012 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Not really

It’s not something we pull out in the last 3 minutes of a game. It’s a part of our offense.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Jan 14, 2012 10:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Its called coaching and

going for the jugular rather than trying to run the clock and hope they don’t catch you like some coaches.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone think McD had an influence on the Pats' game plan?

The Pats schemed us just about perfectly. Belichick is good, but not usually perfect.

by oorange blood on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 PM MST reply actions  

Not hard to be perfect against our safety devoid group...

They ran a 3-4 when mcd was here…

Completely dif teams…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Offense if different too

Nothing McD gives them they couldnt have gotten from tape anyways.

Move planned before Broncos advanced…

No conspiracy, just bad game

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

True. The broncos weren't running an option attack based offense.

Though I will say it’s time to put the option attack aside and go more pro set.

by tiderfootball09 on Jan 14, 2012 11:10 PM MST up reply actions  

that seems like a comfy, pat answer, though I’m not expecting you to do any more. There’s little to do but speculate.

Coming into the game, the Pats’ D was thought to be on the weak side. Tonight they were suffocating. Just sayin’.

by oorange blood on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for keeping the expectations low, my wife does too.....

The Pats D was a decent scoring D, not great on yards. I would say we ran well when we stayed away from the option. I would argue that our defensive ineptitude set the stage for the offensive woes. That is the primary issue, not McD. Is that better?

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

you're first was fine, but your 2d was better, yes

I don’t disagree. I also try to look for things that would have made a difference.

Why, did you know the Broncos had the SB stolen from them against the Giants. Yes. Elway hit Clarance Kay on 3rd-and-long, but the refs called it incomplete. Our drive was stopped and we gave up points right before a long half. People can laugh, but momentum killers like that matter.

By no means do I mean to suggest that the Pats didn’t totally smoke the Broncos. Hats off to them.

by oorange blood on Jan 14, 2012 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Just skimmed through the 4th quarter thread..

Can’t believe those of you blaming Von Miller for the fight.

He took his frustration out in a legal play that took place during live action. Anyone remember Warren Sapp?

The main culprit in that fight was Patrick Chung, one of the dirtiest players in the league. The same guy who already had one called PF during the game, and should have had another for a late hit.

Congrats to NE, hope they win it all.

by Hobnail_Boot on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 PM MST reply actions  

During live action? Nah....Way late in the play

I love Von, but hate cheap shots even when frustrated.

by idahobronc on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Agree to disagree..

They’re throwing the ball up 35 points and pooch punting, but they had a problem with Miller playing to the whistle?

by Hobnail_Boot on Jan 14, 2012 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Block in the back?

Either way it was slightly dirty…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:25 PM MST up reply actions  

It is called staying agressive and

keeping the pedal on the metal. Fox can’t even find the friggin pedal!

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

This is the playoffs…pooch punting is bad sportsmanship now? C’mon.

by tossin on Jan 14, 2012 11:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Zane's play was dirty

And I was incredibly disappointed in him for doing it, but Chung is a dirty player. You wanna talk about classless? How much class does it take to hit someone way out of bounds when you’re up by 35 points? I would bet that played into the frustration late in the game by Von. Von’s play wasn’t dirty by the way, it was unnecessary but give me a break, I’ve seen people get hit harder than that in Soccer games.

by UTBroncofan on Jan 14, 2012 11:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Chung's hit was illegal but it was within the white area where the line and the sidelines meet.

He should be fined but that doesn’t mean he is a dirty player.

As for Von, even your own ex players-Mark S thought it was cheap.

by Revenge of the Fallen on Jan 14, 2012 11:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Stink was the dirtiest, and the cheapest....

He is a fool who got exactly what he wanted from DEN and routinely plants the knife in their backs…

Typical media… cant be trusted…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually think the peeing thing was hilarious and a good idea. Some opposing players might not want engage him during plays. It’s nasty though.

by Revenge of the Fallen on Jan 15, 2012 8:11 AM MST up reply actions  

If you ever watched stink play

it was on more than one occasion, and more than just #1…if ya get my drift….that brown streak on his pants wasn’t dirt. LMAO

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by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

and honestly the difference between then and now

is that its now coming out of his mouth instead of the other end!

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

See you guys next year...

..Brady was in the zone tonight.

"There is an old saying about the strength of the wolf is the pack, and I think there is a lot of truth to that. On a football team, it's not the strength of the individual players, but it is the strength of the unit and how they all function together." - Bill Belichick

by JDot on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 PM MST reply actions  

That was not to be a cocky post..

..You guys are young and have a great team. But key word on young..

Really like your team.

"There is an old saying about the strength of the wolf is the pack, and I think there is a lot of truth to that. On a football team, it's not the strength of the individual players, but it is the strength of the unit and how they all function together." - Bill Belichick

by JDot on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Good year...

Now we need to add Defense…and get Tebow some reps and training with Elway. Where can we find a true leader on defense like Dawkins who is young and who can play MLB and direct the effort over there on that side of the ball.

Overall it was a good loss for the coaches to evaluate the team and see where the glaring hopes are on both sides of the ball. Let’s have a great offseason and get back to the SUperbowl next year and build off this year’s success and momentum.

by Brazenwood on Jan 14, 2012 10:15 PM MST reply actions  

Not a good loss, if these were my Raiders I would be pissed that all respectability gained was lost.

Why lost? Because you were not even in the game. Shows us we are too far.
Losing a heartbreaker at least gives you comfort that you were almost there… but this is not the case…
It makes it look like beating the Steelers was just a fluke as they looked down upon you, and paid the price.
Not trying to be a troll, just realistic as I would’ve been.
Well, see you guys next year. Good luck.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Jan 14, 2012 10:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Why not?

They don’t have a draft to worry about

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:40 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I know

you’re not talking about coaching…

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Will say though brad

that there is still free agency. And free agency is strong this year.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

that is true in theory

but if your Pats have taught you anything, the draft is paramount, Gronk/Hernandez/Wilfork, etc. those guys came from drafting. Welker was a free agent prize, I’ll give you that but you know what I’m saying

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Welker was a trade, technically.

Carter and Anderson came in through FA and revolutionized the D-line, however. Bodden was basically our only decent guy in the secondary in 2009, too. Then there’s guys like Rob Ninkovich who nobody sees coming.

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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

He wasn't a free agent. We got him through trade.

But how was Jabar Gaffney when he was in denver?

I just want to say, that drafting people is great and all, but free agents are also important pieces to a young team (which the Raiders are a young team). Hell the pats got Alge Crumpler and he was very important for us in 2010. how was Dawkins when he was healthy with you guys?

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh sure

Gaffney was fine, McGahee is good, for how much longer I don’t know…. however, the Broncos have been burned by the likes of Dale Carter and Daryl Gardner :(

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

In the NFL, the draft is primary.

Show me a team that has gone deep in the playoffs and was also built on FA’s

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jan 14, 2012 10:51 PM MST up reply actions  

KC last year.

Got Thomas Jones, that middle linebacker, as well as other guys. Eric Berry was a great pickup, but there were free agents that were key for them last year.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 PM MST up reply actions  

oh wait you said deep....

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Well I can definitely say that

its only one damn year for the raiders not to have a first or a second (they could get a 3rd round Comp. pick from nnam).

But their team is young enough, and has young talent that getting a few free agents is just fine.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Thomas Jones was important for KC

as well as…. Derrick Brooks? I think thats his name. He has been an impact player for them.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Teams consistently over pay for free agents

Because its past performance based…

Most under-perform, and actually end up hurting the team…

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:06 PM MST up reply actions  

And rookies don't get over paid?

lolololol No they won’t of course.

However, not all free agents get over paid, and big pickups normally do well to earn their paychecks. Anderson and Carter for the pats have been HUGE pickups for us, and we didnt over pay at all.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 PM MST up reply actions  

yep.

but with a young team like the Raiders, getting a couple free agents and a HC and DC is really all they need to tell the truth. In this sense, I dont think a 1st round pick will hurt them that much, although its nice to have.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Is that all they need?

Wow, Superbowl or bust for them next year huh?

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope. Just competing for the playoffs.

Their offense is potentially going to be explosive, with D. Moore, Ford, and DHb at WR, and McFadden at RB. Too bad Moore and Ford were both hurt for some of the season last year, and mcfadden practically the whole season.

We need to cut down on penalties, and get a better DC. Getting a free agent or two for defense is really all that we need. coaching has to take care of the rest.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:21 PM MST up reply actions  

McFadden is hurt every year

and they just went through another coaching change. Also, pick a damn team already. Oh right, the Raiders have sucked for so long that you gotta be a bandwagon Pats fan too.

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

McFadden usually get hurt for 3 games.

He should be healthier next year because… well he was off for over 6 weeks last season.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Like I said in another thread

A Knoshown Moreno with talent. Made of glass

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe.

We’ll have to see next year. He normally stays healthy except for 3-4 games. Im fine with that. His career year he missed 3 games. I think McFadden will be fine next season.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Ha

Kansas City’s not going deep EVER, not if they’re hellbent on Kyle Orton being their future. We Broncos fans learned that is impossible

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, some free agents will be bad pickups.

But the same goes for the draft. I mean, I knew that R. Moore was not going to be a good pick, but even first rounders can be busts.

Free agency at least you pretty much know what your getting more likely than the draft. The Raiders can still score through free agency, and the team is young enough that all they need is a HC and DC really. :P

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 10:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Hits and misses on both.....

But you will always have more draft picks then FA’s (unless you trade away your #1’s for washed up QB’s, but that would be silly).

Thus the importance of draft picks. Also, a single impact FA might help, but depth is big in the NFL too. Need to draft well to have it.

by charlesnelsonreilly on Jan 14, 2012 10:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Raiders have depth, and they have very young players on both sides of the ball.

getting a couple free agents, a HC, and a DC is pretty much all they need really. The draft won’t hurt them THAT much.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:03 PM MST up reply actions  

we shall see

after McDaniels screwed us, I never took draft picks for granted again

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:26 PM MST up reply actions  

he did give you D. Thomas.

And tebow… but thats it really… at least that I know of.

Yeah he didnt do a great job in denver..

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Spygate II?

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:35 PM MST up reply actions  

oh yeah that too.....

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 14, 2012 11:36 PM MST up reply actions  

And beadles, and walton

and ayers…

But lost cutler, marshal, hillis, more good than bad, aside from losing seasons

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 15, 2012 12:00 AM MST up reply actions  

and Scheffler - who was never spectacular but was at least a productive player till McD came along

We need a genuine pass catching TE.

What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....

by British Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 8:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Daniel Fells did well enough for me

but if Julius Thomas proves worthless, find another stud, we need our own Gronk and Hernandez, gosh dang it :)

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

His 2010 draft is balancing out the horror that was his 09 draft. That, and he was a terrible, terrible coach. Couldnt field a defense and forgot what a running game looks like.

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

How much cap room do the Raiders have?

With all those high draft picks from over their 7 years of bad luck I cant see them picking up a lot of other teams left overs. The “Raider Way”

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh so happy that you are not our GM

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, you might actually build a team through the draft

Its a crazy concept! Lots of successful franchises are doing it now a days!! Its taking the league by storm like the West Coast offense!

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:39 AM MST up reply actions  

With all their top picks

over the last 5-6 years I would hope that they found SOME talent at least :)

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by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 9:18 AM MST up reply actions  

seriously Faider tool

you would be happy if you didn’t choke against the Dolts and if you beat the Steelers and were in this position, we have a firm foundation, we have a solid front office, we have DRAFT PICKS, nah nah, time to get off the warden’s laptop, back to your cell

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

True on all that, you guys have a firm foundation that we would envy... until now...

We will now build a firm foundation and Front office with the sad passing of Al.
But I will not jump the gun, maybe mcKenzie will suck or maybe not, we’ll see when the season begins! See you next year.
:)

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by JaggerJaw on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

for sure

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 PM MST up reply actions  

They have a no ban policy

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Dan Marino is arguably the greatest QB of all time

and his worst playoff loss was much worse than Tebow’s first playoff loss, just trying to accentuate the positives!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:29 PM MST reply actions  

John Elway lost a Super Bowl 55 to 10.

FIFTY FIVE TO TEN.

by emd2k3 on Jan 15, 2012 12:15 AM MST up reply actions  

I am aware of that

that was a day from hell from me, my dad was in the hospital with a heart attack and the Broncos got destroyed

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 12:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I was in Ski Club in high school. Watched bits and pieces of the game in the lodge.

by emd2k3 on Jan 15, 2012 12:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Did save me a trip from LA to Nevada

The summer before my wife and I were in Tahoe and I put down $10 at Harrah’s for the Broncos to win the SB on a lark. Got 50:1 odds. Was going to have to find a way to cash that ticket if they won.

by ClarkFan on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

You guys had a great year

I didn’t think Tebow would become as good as he has this season. Yea, the Pats D had their way with him, but overall, for a guy that had virtually little off-season to pick it up, and then not even starting at the beginning of the season..I gotta say, not bad, not bad at all.

Get some weapons around him, shore up that defense a little, and you’ll be solid next season. Good luck to you guys. : )

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by Tai on Jan 14, 2012 10:30 PM MST reply actions  

I agree Mr. Tai

or Ms. Tai as it were, there is no doubt in my mind after Tebow does his Sunday worship at some evangelical church, he will be at Dove Creek at 6:00 a.m. MST Monday to work, work, work. He wants this badly and we’re lucky to have him

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Er, I'm a guy just so you know

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by Tai on Jan 15, 2012 12:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Some weapons...

there is not enough tea in China to buy the weapons needed.

by Mee on Jan 14, 2012 10:32 PM MST reply actions  

no but there are enough fireworks

and we will be really explosive in the future

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 10:34 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Very well played

And a rec for you

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Good run you guys.

Never been a fan of Tebow, but you guys have been classy all week in talking to the Pulpit. Good luck next year!

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by Ben Buchanan on Jan 14, 2012 10:42 PM MST reply actions  

that was one Hell of a ride!!

Much love to thease young men, I personaly am very proud of thisd team. Next year? CAN’T WAIT!!!

by CenCalBronco on Jan 14, 2012 10:45 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

I still love the Broncos! No matter what!

by kadenp on Jan 14, 2012 10:49 PM MST reply actions  

Some seriously fun stuff this year!

Tonight reminded me too much of the first-round beat down in Indy several years back. That said, I look forward to building on the positives, and see what they can do with the off-season.

Go Broncos!

by MakeCents on Jan 14, 2012 10:53 PM MST reply actions  

Not the way to end a season, but it was still a sucess.

I’m very excited to see how the young guys develope over the off-season. I was impressed to see the improvement in second year players in Decker and Walton—at times Beadles. The way Walton improved in only his second year is impressive in itself. He was getting dominated his rookie year and then turns it around this year. It’s going to be interesting how much more he improves next year. Also nice to see DT show his potential. I just hope he can have a full offseason without any injuries. I would like to see DT more invloved earlier in the games next year. He has that Brandon Marshal type ability but without the attitude plus DT is faster.

Even more interesting is going to be how Tebow improves along with the 2011 draft class. It’s easy to get down on a lot of those guys, but I would say to hold off on strong opinions on the ones that struggled until next year. I never really understand writing off someone in their first or even second year. If you want an example of how one can improve in one year, just look at Walton and Decker. The broncos had three rookies make the all-rookie team. Also Carter picked off two top QBs in the NFL. That’s four rookies making an impact in their first year. Just based off that, I’m already jacked up about next year. Get another good offseason togeather and the broncos will be back in the playoffs next year.

P.S. Start the mock drafts—plus free agency. Just think guys, picking at number two overall last year to picking 25 overall this year, that’s an amazing jump in one year!

by tiderfootball09 on Jan 14, 2012 11:04 PM MST reply actions  

Great Year...but depth still a big problem

I predicted 6-10. We went 8-8, made the playoffs, and won a game. Pretty damn good!

That being said, I wonder how much further along we are from when Shanahan was let go. This game really reminded me of the his last game, when we got blown out by San Diego for the AFC West title. Lack of depth really shows late in the season, and it was painfully apparent tonight. Xanders made a big deal about purging the Shanahan roster of guys who never made it onto another NFL team. Well, there were STILL plenty of guys out there tonight on our side. We will need another good draft year and smart free agent pickups in order to compete next year.

by xandervan on Jan 14, 2012 11:11 PM MST reply actions  

Von Miller embarrassing

I thought Von Miller’s actions at the end of the game were embarrassing and was ashamed to watch that cr&^%$p…gotta do better than that Von Miller..what a disaster tonight was..It reminded me of all the blowouts we suffered at the hands of Indianapolis…the white uniforms, bad safety play, etc…

Horrible way to end a great season.

by Broncomaniac41 on Jan 14, 2012 11:11 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I did read Von's Tweet

and I will therefore refrain from judging him harshly, I have overcome a litany of anger management issues myself and if he’s doing his best to curb the problem, that’s all anyone can do. I like how he competes until the end, obviously he was being egged on by Pats players. Cooler heads should prevail, but we are human

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:16 PM MST up reply actions  

He's young and hot headed. He will get better

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

So this i cant even rec this post enough

REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].

by Trapped in O.C. on Jan 14, 2012 11:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I bet one of the linemen said something and he got sensitive out of frustration

They were nowhere near the ball, so to pick a fight was stupid and uncalled for.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Zane Beadles embarrasing

Zane Beadles stomping around after our one and only touchdown was also an embarrassment..I hope Fox gave him an earful…

by Broncomaniac41 on Jan 14, 2012 11:20 PM MST reply actions  

I and Beadles are both Utahns

so it was particularly embarrassing for me

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:25 PM MST up reply actions  

yes

we fans feel connected to players who play for our favorite teams. Of course it’s asinine but you do realize that fan is the root of FANATIC, right?

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I too was disappointed by Zane, I’ve never seen him do stuff like that, on the Utes or Broncos so I’ll assume it was a momentary lapse in judgement. I’m sure he even feels bad about it.

by UTBroncofan on Jan 14, 2012 11:45 PM MST up reply actions  

yes

I won’t belabor the point any longer, I hate it when I talk to my mom and dad and they do that to me, but he knows what went wrong, and he’ll correct it

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Well said John

I couldn’t agree more. I’m glad we have the same rational take on this loss, and this awesome young Bronco team.

"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!

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by PaleHorse78 on Jan 14, 2012 11:34 PM MST reply actions  

things are looking up

I realize we have a tough schedule but 10-6 is a good goal…. hopefully we come though in the draft

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by PortlandOrange on Jan 14, 2012 11:42 PM MST reply actions  

Did we just become best friends?

Our arrow is pointing up. 10-6 is a good goal, it means hosting another game.

Love the sig.

luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan

by chikndnnr on Jan 15, 2012 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Im with you there

10-6 is a good goal for next year

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

The better team won tonight

Plain and simple, congrats to the Patriots, they are the better team and they took it to the Broncos. This year was fun and unexpected, I look forward to the team getting better and better. GO BRONCOS!!!

by UTBroncofan on Jan 14, 2012 11:43 PM MST reply actions  

I live in Manti

UT? Where are you?

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2012 11:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Young QB takes his team to the playoffs in his first year starting.... I think any other

team would consider that a great year and have a bright future.

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by rubincarterrocks on Jan 14, 2012 11:46 PM MST reply actions  

and he won a playoff game

that is something to celebrate, Tony Gonzalez, a Hall of Famer, may never win a playoff game, just think about that…

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 12:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Rivers too if I am not mistaken.

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by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 12:20 AM MST up reply actions  

as much as I hate him

Rivers did have one good playoff year, it was the year the Giants beat the Pats in the Super Bowl, you beat him in the AFC Championship Game and they beat the Titans and Colts

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 12:27 AM MST up reply actions  

yeah.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 12:29 AM MST up reply actions  

when you're an ugly girl and you get invited to the dance

you’re not just happy to be there, you’re goal is to jerk a few guys off too!

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 6:19 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

well we jerked off Big Ben didn't we :)

What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....

by British Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 8:23 AM MST up reply actions  

we sure did

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Well said Bill

My 2011 Growler of Koolaid is still chillin' in the frig but I'm hoping to crack it open soon!

by BroncoSense72 on Jan 15, 2012 6:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Thank you Broncos for giving us an exciting season

The team was fun to watch. Frustrating and miserable at times, But they never gave up. And they succeeded way beyond my expectations at the beginning of this year.

They say “Any Given Sunday”. It’s just a shame they scheduled the last game for a Saturday.

Thanks again Broncos

by yibberat on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 AM MST reply actions  

well said

I hope all of you Denver residents can do that!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 12:30 AM MST up reply actions  

As irritating as tonight’s game was, this was still one hell of a season. All the QB drama, epic comebacks, last week’s playoff win…as fans, we’ve got a lot to be proud of. We weren’t supposed to be here. To make it this far was amazing. I’m just glad that our Broncos are relevant again. The last few years have been hell. And not to mention, we’re the fans of one of the most hated team’s in the league! Hated the ending, but I loved watching the team this year. As Tebow said, it was filled with many ups and downs. But it was definitely worth it. I feel much better about the team going into this offseason. This team has a bright future. GO BRONCOS!

by jbbroncosfan27 on Jan 15, 2012 12:47 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

I hope they get a new QB

As someone who saw Elway from 88-98 at Mile Hi, including the home playoff games for the 2 Super Bowls, I don’t think Tebow has a chance to be successful in the league. I find it embarrassing, any QB that throws for 40 yards in a half, and turns it over, and has multiple negative plays like that in one game is not fit to start in the league. I’m sure there are other running backs in the league who can throw the ball better than Tebow. He’ll be 8-8 as a starter and his limitations will be easily exposed, look at what all the good teams did to him. Shut him down. I lived in Denver for 12 years and understand loving the team, but holy hell you guys have got to be kidding with this guy. He is not an NFL QB. That option offense is an insult to the game. What more proof do you need?

by LionsD on Jan 15, 2012 1:06 AM MST reply actions  

tebow deserves the offseason and i’m quite sure you will see a more traditional offense with better gameplanning

by anton... on Jan 15, 2012 1:12 AM MST up reply actions  

The game planning

couldn’t possibly be worse, so yeah it should get better.

by Mee on Jan 15, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

So you are comparing Elway in his prime with pretty damn good teams around him to...

A “3 year project” who took over a 1-4 team? Great comparisons. I can definitely see how you came to your conclusion that Tebow and the league leading rushing attack is an embarrassment to football. I grew up watching Elway and still claim to be his bastard son I love the guy so much, and I see plenty of untapped potential in Tim Tebow. It’s strange how his style of play can be seen as an “embarrassment” to the league compared to the #1 pick of the same draft, Sam Bradford… Whom Tebow has already surpassed in wins with far less starts… And on similarly below average football teams.

by knoepke84 on Jan 15, 2012 1:15 AM MST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

It's embarrassing to watch him

Especially those option plays where he keeps it, he is going to get severely injured on one of those plays, he isn’t Superman and all RB’s get injured eventually. Just watch, one of those stop and starts he does he will get leveled. He’s tough as nails but it will catch up to him. He gets hit awkwardly all the time. He got dropped right on his head against the Lions, you probably remember him getting spun in the air. How can you fans here just dismiss FOURTEEN negative yardage plays? It’s nonsensical.
His stats will not sustain an NFL team through a full season, if he can’t make routine NFL throws and the league figures out this running offense what will the result be? 6-10, 7-9 at best. He’s too limited. I’ll be amazed if Elway hands him the starting job next year.

by LionsD on Jan 15, 2012 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

If your so embarrased the dont watch

nobody here asked you to and nobody here appreciates any of your troll comments.

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 1:09 PM MST up reply actions  

The only thing that is an insult to the game

Is re-writing the rule book to turn this game into a “pass happy” league.

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

The only insult is you trolling over here

Go on back to your worthless franchise’s blog now. Let me refresh your memory with some of Elway’s playoff losses.

39-20, 42-10 and 55-10

I’ve lost all respect for the Lions and their fans after this season. Theyre worse than the Steeler fans. Your team is getting a rep as one of the dirtiest and most undisciplined in the league. Your fans reflect that. That team quickly became the Raiders of the NFC North. You’d think after so many years of futility you guys would have some humility. Didnt your own team just get blasted for 45 points by a great NFL QB also? Of course you forgot to mention that. Have fun dreaming of Lombardi’s, we have actual ones here in Denver

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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:01 AM MST up reply actions  

OH BOO HOO I DIDN'T KISS TIMMYS BUTT!

I’ve never seen such delusional fans, anywhere. I find Tebow laughable as an NFL QB, I am entitled to my opinion. You just enjoy next season and his 120 yards a game and getting crushed on option plays. IF you have a tiny bit of NFL knowledge, you would have noticed how teams have pretty much figured out everything Tebow is capable of, and a good or better NFL defense is going to beat him down every game. Reality. Type another scathing review of Lions fans, like that means anything.

by LionsD on Jan 15, 2012 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Go put the bag back on your head

and slink back to your own blog.

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by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

You're not discussing

You’re insulting. Big difference. Of course, you wouldnt know the difference, you outta try posting on the Denver Post. Thats more your speed right there, turbo

"It's all over fat man!"
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by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I can take rational thought

if you had one. All yur doing is regurgitating the MSM’s point of view. Once you get an original thought in that gas filled head of yours it might be worth debating. Until then you are an unoriginal troll with the same attitude of every other troll we have been dealing with all season. Like I said I am glad your gone, because you are the type of fan that is an embarrassment to anyone you root for :)

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by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

One winning season with Stafford and suddenly you're the cream of the NFL

Please remind me of Staffords 1st season. What was it 2-14? And please tell me his stats from the beatdown the Bears gave you guys. Here’s a healthy dose of reality, Tebow is a young QB and will improve. You’re another dumbass Lions fan that only regurgitates what the MSM says about Tebow. The book is hardly out on Tebow. We’ll have a much better idea after next season

"It's all over fat man!"
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"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 12:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, and the Lions QB

Threw for 380 yards and four touchdowns in his playoff game against a top NFL team, on the road, so your point is again silly. Again, I lived in Denver for 12 years and saw 80% of Elways games at Mile Hi so I’m the biggest Denver slappy around, and the team was ruined by McDaniels for me. Keep whining. Tebow will set the franchise back another 5 years.

by LionsD on Jan 15, 2012 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Glad your gone. One less

band wagon fan here in the Mile High City. Have fun in Detroit :)

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by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Glad the Broncos fans I know are rational adults

Because any criticism of Tebow here, painfully obvious criticism is too much for you hard core fans to handle. I think most of you are band wagoners. Only thing I can think of to rationalize away the horrid play in this last game.

by LionsD on Jan 15, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Most of us are bandwagoners?

after a horrific 4-12 season? And I guess it was Tebow’s fault that the offensive line couldnt run block, couldnt pass block, it was his fault that Brady kept burning our Defense all game long. Too bad Tebow sucks so bad at Safety, Linebacker, DT, RT, etc. You’re really showing your football acumen in your posts

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"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

If you consider Rational fans as ones who accept your gabage comments

as rational. Then i will gladly accept that I am irrational. You come over here and do nothing but bag on the Denver Broncos QB with nothing but unoriginal garbage. Get a clue. We were in a divisional Playoff game with a kid who has started a total of 17 games. Yet he is supposed to be MontanaElwayMorenoBradyRodgers…..all rolled in to one. Yes that is completely rational. 17 GAMES….what an ass clown LMAO

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by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, and Tebow threw for 316 yards on the NFL's #1 defense

Whats your point? And we won that game. How’d you guys do against NO?

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-Tom Jackson
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-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe you out to come with some better comments than the lame played out

Tebow sucks ones. Of course, you’ll leave out the horrific play by the D and nevermind your own team also got torched by another NFL powerhouse. Of course Tebow had a bad game last night, but so did the other 45 players last night. Like I said, keep dreaming of Lombardi’s in that crappy city of yours, maybe someday you’ll get one so you can think about something else besides what post WWII Europe must have been like

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-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

boy I really thought his O-line didn't give him time at all last night. Blame them for most of the negative plays.

Hard for any QB to throw for much when they are running for their life on almost every play. I agree Tim is still a young QB and it shows. He needs work and practice and an offseason. I can’t lay this loss at his feet at all.

The D was extremely overmatched and the O-line as well.

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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 15, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

your team just could not generate any kind of pressure on brady whatsoever

against any elite QB, pressure with as little blitzing as possible, is the key. With all that time brady had in the pocket today, your defense never stood a chance

by metal_militia on Jan 15, 2012 1:25 AM MST reply actions  

Denver

couldn’t blitz because of the trouble matching up with the tight ends and how they open everything up for that team. They don’t get any credit. It is always thrown Brady’s way. He gets way more credit than he deserves. His line holds on practically every play.

by PABroncofan on Jan 15, 2012 2:50 AM MST reply actions  

And how

did not blitzing work out for them. They had nothing to loose by selling out.

by Mee on Jan 15, 2012 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Rahim Moore

can someone please explain what happened earlier in the year that got Quinton Carter playing inetead of Rahim Moore. Rahim looked good early in the year. They stopped showing Broncos games over here when they started losing and I know he must have fouled up

by Baghdad on Jan 15, 2012 4:54 AM MST reply actions  

don't know why Moore is developing so slowly but glad the coaching staff made the move.

Carter is developing quite nicely and if he continues to improve could be the answer at one of our safety spots. Glad they were able to at least see that much. Lets me know they aren’t too stubborn to admit a mistake and make it right.

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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 15, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Hang in there guys

It’s been an interesting season. Hopefully the Broncos will have a prosperous off season and be back in the thick of things this summer.

by SuperSerial on Jan 15, 2012 5:20 AM MST reply actions  

Colts fan here.

Just thought I’d congratulate you guys on a good season. Yeah, yesterday’s game was tough, but your team gave the league many incredible moments over the season. It’s been entertaining to watch. Peyton Manning led the Colts to 3-13 his first season, before he turned it around the following year to 13-3. You’re a team headed in the right direction.

by Ayrshire on Jan 15, 2012 6:05 AM MST reply actions  

Than you! Typical class Indy fan.

Good luck with the decision making in the Hooseir state.

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks. Good luck to you guys too

"It's all over fat man!"
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"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Stampede Blue is a dang good blog

Big Blue Shoe rubs people the wrong way sometimes but Colts fans are no different than Peyton and Dungy, all class!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm listening to John Lennon's song: GOD

And to paraphrase: I don’t believe in Broncos!….The dream is OVER!!

Some of you Donkey fans came over to our board after the Pittsburgh game and gloated mightily while putting down the Raiders. Where are you now?

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by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 6:36 AM MST reply actions  

you're an idiot

even if some “donkey fans” did do this, way to stoop to their level. It just shows ignorance by those fans, including you!

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by Broncs55 on Jan 15, 2012 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

It wasn't "some"

It was 10 that are registered to this site who cam on over unprovoked.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 8:58 AM MST up reply actions  

doesn't matter how many

it doesn’t make you any better than them

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by Broncs55 on Jan 15, 2012 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I undersstand what you are saying

It’s all in good rivalry fun. It just stuck with me that Bronco fans would come over and jump our GM Reggie McKenzie thread to gloat about the win over the Steelers.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 9:07 AM MST up reply actions  

10?

Do you have any idea how many registered users there are at MHR? 10 is even less than some. it’s a whisper.

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by Sean in Pa. on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Well at least you have draft day.....

OOOPS….

Well at least you can say “We got Mark Davis now”
OOPS

Oh well. I guess there really isn’t anything for you to look forward to in this off season other than a QB controversy, once again a new HC and staff, and new ways for the Faders to look completely inept.

Have fun next season :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

We will have fun next season

because we at least have a real QB running a pro offense. Your offense has been Belichecked and will work no more!

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Your

Football IQ just SHINES through. ROFLMAO!

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Your laughing?

Your doofus new owner carried on the spirit of Al Davis by firing a promising coach in Hue. You have no picks until the 6th round and you have a bunch of aging vets and/or expensive 1st round picks that will need re-signed or released soon. The Raiders dont have a lot of cap room thanks to their slew of high picks. Have fun dwelling in AFC West gutter again.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, I'm laughing

Because 8-8 is not going to get you in the playoffs again and there is no valid reason to believe that the Broncos will actually be any better that that.

On the other hand. We will get compensatory picks for Nnamdi, Miller and Gallery and likely trade for more. The cap is not a problem and never has been, we will sign quality FA’s.

Maybe John Fox should hire our “promising” ex-coach Hue to be your offensive coordinator, be my guest.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

no, 8-8 will NOT get us in the playoffs again

but we’re going to do better than 8-8. Incidentally, Al Davis’ son looks like Adam, Prince of Eternia, before he became He-Man, what a nerd

Brad James

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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

He also looks like the amish guy from Kingpin

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, the looks of an NFL owner are so important to the performance of his team:

Meanwhile the face of your franchise, Elway, well….

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 9:49 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, our team just made it to the Playoffs and even won the first round

How did the Raiders do in their last venture into the playoffs? Have fun setting NFL losing records again. 7 consecutive seasons of at least 11 losses and after back to back 8 win seasons you guys puff your chests out again? Have fun being 4-12 next season

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Do you really believe that?

You backed in to the playoffs by losing 3 straight games badly and winning on the slightest sliver of a tie breaker. You beat Pittsburgh only because they stupidly underestimated your team and your team rode the wave of luck to the victory. Your last 3 games are much, much more indicative of who the Donkeys really are.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Uh-huh

and the Raiders? They had a chance to take the West but choked it away in their own house to a SD team that had nothing to play for. Thats what that team really is. As soon as McFadden goes down, so does your team. And giving up a 1st and 2nd for an over the hill Palmer? Remember that last good Raider team you guys had? The one with all the cast offs from other teams. Well this one is the same, only with mediocre vets instead of greats like Jerry Rice and Romanowski. After this last 8-8 facade, you guys are headed right back to the basement. Who are some of your young stars to build a foundation on? You guys are starting Jarvis Moss on D line. Lmao

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Who?

Jared Veldheer
Stefan Wisniewski
DMAC
Bush
Marcel Reece
Jacoby Ford
DHB
D. Moore
David Ausberry
Matt Shaughnessy
D.Bryant
Tyvone Branch

I could go on, but that’s not the point. The Raiders failure was more to do with coaching then it talent or age. This will be remedied and we will see starting in September.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

september will be SO awesome for you guys, but until then

just stay happy being the worst NFL team in the last 10 years.

by oxmouth on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

This has been the "story"

of the Faders for the last 6 seasons….. Not the players fault its the coaching…the revolving door that is your HC spot is a joke. A scam and a facade that you Fader fans cause and “buy into” and I wouldn’t be surprised if your team is moved from Jokeland. Mark Davis is already spouting about needing a new stadium, and with your fan base’s track record of not even being able to sell out home games, even when your leading the division is a recipe for NO MORE FOOTBALL in Jokeland! If I were you I would be more concerned with that than a few Broncos fans jumping your blog LMAO!

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 10:24 AM MST up reply actions  

D Mac?

What a joke. He’s like a talented Knowshon Moreno. Made of glass. He’s due for FA soon, no? Just like M. Bush. Hey Bey Bey? He FINALLY had an ok year. Nothing to hang your hat on with all of 4 TD picks. Reece is due to be a FA soon. Shaughnessy is due to be a FA soon. You have a lot of people to resign and a lot of free agents to sign seeing as you have no draft.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:24 AM MST up reply actions  

The only time you guys stop DMAC

is when he’s out.

Reece is an RFA, Bush can be franchised or he will be resigned as well as any of the important players.

Cap room will be created as always and we will sign good FA’s.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Is when he's out

which is like half the year. SO awesome that he’s taking up that much cap for you, btw. You dont build a team through FA, but then again that’s been the Raiders MO for the last decade. Great way to build a franchise

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

That is what happens when you cant find talent in the draft

The Faders have a habit of cutting their draft picks before the end of training camp. Not to mention “over drafting” “reaching for talent” and just flat out drafting ’busts". That is what happens when the only thing you look at is speed and size at the combines :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Besides Russell

who exactly are our busts?

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

How far do you want me to go back?

I could write a book on it :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Did it for you already :)

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey bey bey is not playing up to his draft position

DMF is a talented Knowshow, Rolando McClain got arrested for firing a pistol at someone’s head, Michael Huff is nothing to brag about, whos Fabian Washington?, Gallery is gone, so is Aso, Philip Buchanon? Didnt you guys piss away a high draft pick back in the early 2000’s also? You guys traded with a team

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

at least the high picks

they gave up for palmer are safe. best way to insure against a bust is to piss them away before you waste them.

by oxmouth on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Ah the McDaniels way

Damn you Phonz!!!

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

huh?

who are these people you speak of?…

by oxmouth on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh right

That info was sealed away…Its classified now

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

We do better in the later rounds

Ford, Moore, Branch, Reece,Kelly, etc… We will build with trades, the draft and FA’s, if done wisely, like the packers, we will be just fine.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Lmao like the Packers?

they actually held on to their 1st rounders, unlike the raiders who trade em away to other teams for their vets like Seymour and Palmer. Yup, just like the Packers

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

I reference the Packers

because of our new GM Reggie McKenzie, not for the past.

If you think that McKenzie’s working for the Packers for 18 years is not going to put an influential bent to the new Raiders way, then you are as delusional as you sound.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

We do better in the later rounds
Ford, Moore, Branch, Reece,Kelly, etc…

This is in past tense. Haha do you need an english lesson also? Were already schooling you in Football

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

You were referring to our past drafts

How do you already know how we will do in the 2012 draft or exactly what choices we will eventually end up with?

You are special.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

2012 draft?

you have 3 picks LMAO

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

All in the 5th and later

Mmm mmm good

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

We got Denarius Moore in the 5th round.

You never know. teams have struck gold in later rounds.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

And have missed a lot more than hit

5th rounders and later are not coveted picks for a reason

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah of course.

But you never knooooow. ;)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Jan 15, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I know you wont do much

You have nearly no picks, expect to fix your team with free agents, have a lot of expensive players that you will probably need to trade for picks or hang on to to “win now.” Oh, and you need to resign a lot of your better players soon. Tall order for a new GM. Your team is a mess

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

If he actually get past the

grasp of Mark Davis. Like father like son. No other owner had more say in personnel and staff then Al. So if you think that Mark wont try to do the same thing then it you that has the delusions. He has already started the trend by hiring a new “yes man” :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Where are your facts

that Reggie Mckenzie is a “yes man”?

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Dont need them.

Ive already proved my point. And if Mckenzie isnt a “yes man” you can look forward to a new GM and HC in the 2013 off season as well :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Yup thats why Hue was out the door

Just wait, this guy will say its the right decision. Thats what they said last year about Cable also. They were beating their chests about Hue taking over and now they will say it was the right decision to get rid of a coach after one year. Maybe we should snag him Shanny style?

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

it may play a role

but you guys are still the Raiders until you’re not

Brad James

Follow me on Twitter

With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Speaking of age

How’s your “young” secondary doing?

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Shitty, but not as bad as yours

We finished 18th in yards given up. Raiders 27th. Like Disturbed says, your football IQ really shines through ;)

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, they looked like 18th against Brady

TWICE!

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Jan 15, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Haha yeah like your own team looked against Rodgers

Keep it coming, this is fun :)

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

To a point its fun....

its like watching a one legged man in an ass kicking contest…after a while its just cruel :) But hey he brought it on himself….so let the abuse continue :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions   4 recs

Good one

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

We are 22 mil under the cap

We have plenty of room to make any moves we need this off season to improve our team. Our young core of players are only going to get better. Also Considering we have more than a FULL draft day board with an extra 5th rounder, and all that cap room, there is no way this team doesn’t improve in both quality of players and depth on our roster. So there goes that theory right out the window. Once again your football IQ shines through :)

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

But hey! they have those compensatory picks, right?!?!?!

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Compensatory picks?

Yeah maybe at best 3rd rounders with a mix of 4th and 5th. Have fun building a team the “raider way” with other teams cast offs and has beens. You have yet another new coaching staff to go through and are not going to rebuild your team the right way. That house is built on sand and its going to take a while with no draft to rebuild the Faiders.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

what's all the white shit on his face

somebody should tell him you’re supposed to snort the coke not ram your face into a pile of it

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Well with all the inexplicable piles of cash that Al Davis had

and he inherited, Im sure he Tony Montana it

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Is that dried mayonaise on his lip....

nah… hes just been “working” again!

".....Im the waiting beast....Im the twisted nerve..."

by Disturbed70 on Jan 15, 2012 9:57 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Lmao

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 AM MST up reply actions  

To be fair

Raider Way, I only visit S&B Pride when we play you, otherwise I have to bathe in the Jordan River seven times like Biblical Naman to get rid of my leprosy

Brad James

Follow me on Twitter

With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

anytime I see a Raiders Fan

I’m just going to say “Mark Davis’ hair” There’s nothing else that needs to be said after that.

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Says it all

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

that would be the Ravens

and I hope the Ravens kill the Cheatriots!

Brad James

Follow me on Twitter

With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

-1.0 x 10^infinity

Part of growing up is knowing who to ignore.

I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.

by Horsepower on Jan 15, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for contibuting Faider fan! Great insight.

The only time you should be looking down on someone is if you are trying to help them up, unless you are Von Miller!

by sfkelway on Jan 15, 2012 7:32 AM MST reply actions  

T.dot._bronco

Is that what the ugly girls were doing at the dance? Hey, the Patriots are a holding dirty team. Von’s shot was a reaction to some smart alec comment or being held all day. If you ever delt with Bostonians you know they run off at the mouth

by Baghdad on Jan 15, 2012 8:02 AM MST reply actions  

What a ride

Last night was a tough night, but we wouldn’t have experienced that tough night if it wasn’t for a lot of great nights throughout the season. Thinking of where we this time last year, and also at the beginning of this year we have a lot to be proud of. It was great walking around a mall and grocery yesterday here in Iowa, and having people notice your Broncos clothes to talk about the Broncos, and seeing so many others wearing their gear excited for the game. It was great to see Mile High Magic back.

We have a lot of room to improve, and that’s why we were outmatched in every area last night against the Pats. However, the nice part is you look at the whole year you can finally see a direction and us moving in a positive direction. For the past 3 years that wasn’t the case.

I’m proud of our Broncos, and I’m proud to be a Broncos fan.

by wiebrod on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 AM MST reply actions  

Great year, dissappointed by the way we lost

no blocking for Tebow or McGahee made the offense stumble. Defense was result of injuries and non stop mental mistakes. Von Miller will probably be fined for taking out his aggrivation late in the game…

I appreciate one thing of what the Pats did last night. I’ve seen them run up the score a lot more on other teams than they did on us. Brady punting the ball on 3rd down and not assaulting us through the air any longer after the 3rd quarter I was appreciative of. It showed good sportsmanship as well as respect for Coach Fox and the Denver Broncos.

This was a team effort to lose. Regardless, what a great season we had!

I am confident Tebow will be working in the off season with Elway and other trainers. He came a long way since his first game starting this year, he’s only going to get better.

Now I’m looking forward to draft day. Congratulations to the Denver Broncos on a fantastic season and a lot of players for overcoming your first playoff win against Pittsburgh.

The Definition of an optimist: A Buffalo Bills fan waiting at Buffalo Niagara International Airport for the Bills to return from winning the Super Bowl.

by Broncs55 on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

oops, sorry, i was trying to rec this

didn’t mean to flag. good reply.

"I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different."
— Kurt Vonnegut

by orange cube on Jan 15, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

recommend

a quantifiable “good one.”

"I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different."
— Kurt Vonnegut

by orange cube on Jan 15, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Please stop

It’s nice to be gracious in defeat but the Patriots are world class cheaters. Rodney Harrison was using HGH with full knoledge of the staff and it’s odd these old players go there and get rejuvenated. Big money creates new ways to mask ped use.Who do you think might encourage players to shoot up to win a championship

by Baghdad on Jan 15, 2012 9:42 AM MST reply actions  

why stop at

full knowledge of the staff? his mailman knew…

Brad James

Follow me on Twitter

With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!

by the new Bradfather on Jan 15, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Lets not make excuses

and all NFL players are using PED’s. Its naive to think no team uses them. Just look at players from the 80’s and look at players today. We got smoked, and it was all the team.

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah Im not for making excuses

My team embarassed themselves. The better team won. I cant say I’ll root for you guys, because I hate the Pats, but Im not gonna make excuses either

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

My Mailman

I always catch my mailman leaving the house, what else does he know?

by Baghdad on Jan 15, 2012 9:46 AM MST reply actions  

?

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

I think he meant the mailman knew our game plan.

Wasn’t all that tough to scheme against esp. given the talent thay have.

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Meh.

Its like watching Elway and Reeves go up against Montana and Walsh. Tall order, especially for a young QB

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Patriots

It’s easier for me to hate the Patriots than praise them

by Baghdad on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 AM MST reply actions  

that was a six pack

we used to give a six pack to the worst wipeout of the season, the real garage sales. and that would be yesterday. but here’s to hoping this is turned into something positive; that this is a motivator for next year. this was the most fun i’ve had as a broncos fan in a long time. timmy now will have an offseason. even his most ardent proponents can ask for nothing more. we got youth, depth, stability, we’ve got real talent at key positions. all in all, way better than i hoped. more is working than is broken. and now this team got a taste of what it is like to play with the big boys. ok. good one, broncos. work hard this summer.

"I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different."
— Kurt Vonnegut

by orange cube on Jan 15, 2012 10:10 AM MST reply actions  

Texans

If the Texans beat the Ravens I think I’ll feel better for some reason

by Baghdad on Jan 15, 2012 11:09 AM MST reply actions  

Agreed

and that’s because two former Broncos move on (Kubiak and Dennison). So it feels like a part of us won.

by wiebrod on Jan 15, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Excited

I know it’s hard to be overly excited right now with the defeat last night, but I’m excited for this off-season. Many people aren’t sold on Fox or McCoy, but I give them a lot of credit for getting us to the position we were in, and that’s playing in the playoffs. This roster still has many holes in talent, and that was easy to see last night.

I hope we can find a way to fill some holes on both sides of the ball. I would like to see a TE that can be utilized over the middle of the field, and another WR. We are need of another RB also. Defensively we know the holes we must fix also in the positions of MLB, Corner, and Safety.

Looking at this, this is why it’s a huge testament to our coaches and players to what they accomplished.

by wiebrod on Jan 15, 2012 11:11 AM MST reply actions  

Help please .

I got drunk to dull out the pain . There are parts of the game I cant remember . Can someone be kind enough to explain what von miller and zane beadles did please .

by broncosfaninphilly on Jan 15, 2012 1:16 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Basically..

mad fools of themselves. On a side note, watching the Texans-Ravens game, what is it about Ray Lewis that is so REVOLTING?

by Mee on Jan 15, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I did see it either, just heard about it

apparently after the play they were throwing punches, the Miller escapade led to a sideline brawl. I think the frustration of getting manhandled got to them.

by Mee on Jan 15, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Terrible loss. We were exposed as a young team and while it hurts it was good.

Our coaching staff (although they probably knew already) now should know that we are still deficient in many areas on the team.

They’ll know that we need a new MLB who can tackle and lead the defense.

They’ll know that our secondary needs another shut down corner apart from Champ. Chris Harris was a very pleasant surprise but he may be best suited to nickel next year again. We need to draft a young CB who can fill this role if possible.

DT is still a large need. Our run defense started out strong but without a push up the middle our pass rushers have a much harder time against a good O-line

Our O-line is improving but they did terrible last night. Depth is needed.

We are not as deep at WR as we thought before we traded Lloyd. DT is going to be a stud but we need more behind him and Decker.

See what 3 stud TEs can do? Man I hope Julius and Virgil make huge strides next year and I hope McCoy finds a way to include them.

The option needs to go. Tim will be able to develop into a better passer next year IMO if he gets good protection and a good offseason. We don’t need to keep the option or draft specific players for it. I see no reason that Tim can’t become a good passer. It is tough to learn QB at the NFL level on the job. Here’s hoping an offseason working with Elway will do wonders and he can make a huge leap next year.

Hopefully our FO can make the most of the offseason, the draft and FA to correct these issues and become an even better team next year.

Glad Dennis Allen is staying another year. Anyone remember the last time we had a D-coord for 2 years in a row? I’m also not opposed to McCoy staying but he needs to get a little more creative in the playcalling and not be so predictable. Even if the problem is in execution, it is ridiculous to keep running the same kinds of plays that your players aren’t executing just because you believe in your system. Fix something and adjust (like the Steelers game).

Anyway, apart from my negative critique, I am optimistic for the future and can’t wait to see what happens during the offseason. FA and the draft can’t get here fast enough.

Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.

by BroncoMath101 on Jan 15, 2012 1:26 PM MST reply actions  

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