A little concerned re: offseason, TT

by haj_saitou on Jan 15, 2012 8:23 AM MST

Ok, so the 300 MPH rocket that was the Denver Broncos after last week's great game hit a giant brick wall in the Patriots. All aspects of last night's game were terrible and I think we got an evalution of where our deficiencies are. Now we move on to the offseason and this is where this team, and more importantly, it's quarterback, will make or break the next few years. More after the jump...

Tim Tebow has done what was bascially asked of him. Win some games and make this team better. He definitely helped the team win some games and in many respects he made this team better, but I think everyone can say he is far from a polished QB in this league. The overwhelming opinion is give this kid a full offseason and OTAs and he will only get better at the areas of weakness; reading coverages, throwing timing routes, and improved accuracy.

So here we are now, in the offseason. Tim said all the right things last night about needing to get better and wanting to put the work in during this offseason. My question is, HOW much time is TT going to devote to football?

This guy is not only a QB in the NFL, but he is also has a foundation with his name on it, he has a new hospital that has been built, and he is one of the most popular people in the world right now. His schedule could be very daunting, and that's what scares me.

To make himself and this team better, Tim needs to have 100% focus on this offseason. Not that he can't fit in some humanitarian and other personal work, he really needs to devote his entire offseason to working at his craft. Will he do that? It's hard to say. I think he's genuine when he says we wants to work as hard as possible to get better, but I hope his idea of "work as hard as possible" is the same as the fans of this team. If he does not, my thoughts of him getting the starting job out of the gate will change a little. I think the team will still bring in some competition at QB, which I think will help TT regain any lost focus. But I hope that focus is never lost and he puts in an offseason for the ages.

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Interesting Angle

I think you have some legitimate points. I think Tebow is so grounded in his work ethic and faith, he will not lose focus. I think he understands football is the platform which allows him to do other things and should remain a top priority.

The only time you should be looking down on someone is if you are trying to help them up, unless you are Von Miller!

by sfkelway on Jan 15, 2012 8:33 AM MST reply actions 3 recs

He'll put in the work he needs to

I’m more worried about our defense

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by ElwayFanJ on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 AM MST reply actions

Me too.

Truth shall be known.

by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 AM MST up reply actions

defense definitely needs to help

a lot of these guys need a serious clinic in tackling. Just not very good. Do you think that’s because of the shortened off season, especially with the rookies? Technique seemed lacking for a lot of them.

Aku, Soku, Zan

by haj_saitou on Jan 15, 2012 9:57 AM MST up reply actions

Offensive line was great this season, but

they gave almost no protection this game.

by Zorando on Jan 15, 2012 12:00 PM MST up reply actions

+1

by citrite on Jan 15, 2012 4:22 PM MST up reply actions

As am I

Are we any closer to knowing if Tim Tebow can be a NFL passer?

by nh_bronco on Jan 15, 2012 2:57 PM MST up reply actions

Absolutely 100%

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even a little sorry that offends some of you.

"Sure I may be Sophmoric with an illiterates grasp of syntax and sentence structure, but your a big stupidhead" :D

by JOEGATOR15 on Jan 16, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions

I'm not sure I agree although I understand where you are coming from.

100% focus on getting better as a football player? That’s asking a lot of any man.

Interesting parallel with the author George RR Martin. Fanboys of his Game of Thrones work like myself are desperate for him to finish his work before a) he dies or b ) we die. Yet to our frustration the man keeps going to conventions and watching and blogging NFL games and not finishing the damn series. Some fans were as a result very rude to him on his blog.

But what they fail to appreciate is that all of us need to take time out to recharge our mental batteries. If Martin wants to recharge his creative juices then that’s his right.

Going back to Tebow do you really want him out on a practice field every day? If he can take some time out from football and help make the world a slightly better place at the same time then I say good luck to him.

What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....

by British Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 AM MST reply actions 2 recs

I'm with you on Martin.

Could be Wheel of Time redux.

Were you frustrated by the latest book?

Truth shall be known.

by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 15, 2012 8:53 AM MST up reply actions

A little - if felt like a travel writers blog at times - I really don't need yet another description of yet another Eastern slaving city by Tyrion

He’s got a hell of a lot of threads to pull together quickly in what he believes will be just 2 books. I’m a bit worried the invasion of the Others won’t be given full justice.

And the battle of Winterfell needed to happen at the end of DoD – not shunted to the next one.

What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....

by British Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 9:04 AM MST up reply actions

I think he does do great things outside of football

and he should continue to do that, but I don’t think he can afford to take long periods off to do stuff like that. A break is needed for everyone, don’t get me wrong.

Aku, Soku, Zan

by haj_saitou on Jan 15, 2012 9:51 AM MST up reply actions

I am not in the least worried about Tim putting in enough time in the offseason to get better.

It’s been hard to miss if you have been paying attention, the kind of work he puts in and his absolute devotion to anything he commits to. He will put in the work. He will be limited only by his own personal impossibilities. Tim Tebow will max out his potential. It remains to be seen what that maximum potential will ultimately be, but I believe it will be high.

Never let them see you bleed.
My shit always works sometimes.

by the_prodigal_fan on Jan 15, 2012 8:42 AM MST reply actions 4 recs

rec

luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan

by chikndnnr on Jan 15, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions

+1

I think I have good ideas sometimes. I just suck at communicating them.

by Jason Witte on Jan 15, 2012 4:16 PM MST up reply actions

The ine thung not to worry about

Will be Tim Tebow putting in practice time. I for one feel very good about our chances next year. Im more worried about the draft.

Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even a little sorry that offends some of you.

"Sure I may be Sophmoric with an illiterates grasp of syntax and sentence structure, but your a big stupidhead" :D

by JOEGATOR15 on Jan 15, 2012 8:48 AM MST via mobile reply actions

The one thing Im least worried about is

Tebow’s focus and dedication. He has proven that for the last two years.

"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers

by AlanC11 on Jan 15, 2012 8:59 AM MST reply actions

this is a serious question because I really do not know

but where was Tim during this last offseason? Who was he working with? I thought I heard he was working out with BLlyod, but was he working with a QB specialist?

Aku, Soku, Zan

by haj_saitou on Jan 15, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions

I get what you're saying

But for some of us, I wonder…. For a guy that was going to do everything possible to improve as a QB and earn the starting spot, he spent a lot of time writing books, going on Biggest Loser, etc. Not to say that he can’t have a personal life, but I just think some of that should come AFTER you’ve had some success on the field.

- Nick

"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu

by ncm42 on Jan 15, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions

The second thing I'm least worried about is

Elway’s determination and focus.

He’s proven that for the last 25 years.

"My team's on the floor"
Gene Hackman - Hoosiers

by AlanC11 on Jan 15, 2012 9:00 AM MST reply actions

Elway has to be pleased with the start he had this year

but we also must remember that Elway is in charge of football operations, not just the QB. We have a few areas of concern, on both sides of the ball. I hope TT picks Elway’s brain and gets some time one-on-one with him, but I also understand that Elway’s role is to make all facets of the team better and I think he will do well.

Aku, Soku, Zan

by haj_saitou on Jan 15, 2012 9:55 AM MST up reply actions

This post is a little strange

I think the guy needs to get away from TV’s, papers, and cameras. Decompress. Throw some footballs through a hanging tire in the philippines.

by jimmyray on Jan 15, 2012 9:14 AM MST reply actions

THIS^^^

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by ElwayFanJ on Jan 15, 2012 9:18 AM MST up reply actions

Maybe sparring with Pacquaio will help

"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby

by Calikula on Jan 15, 2012 9:28 AM MST up reply actions

agreed!!!

by citrite on Jan 15, 2012 4:27 PM MST up reply actions

Does anyone know what happened to gcmans brilliant post?

I think we need to trade Tebow for either Peyton Manning (who may never play again – hopefully) or Matt Flynn (who had one great game as a starter….. Rob Johnson anyone?). With genius minds like this… making such good points, we need to be careful that North Korea doesn’t send spies over here.

"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!

"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.

"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!

by PaleHorse78 on Jan 15, 2012 10:00 AM MST reply actions

its still there if you want to carry on been rude to him - its just been bumped by all the other posts which are coming thick and fast

http://www.milehighreport.com/2012/1/14/2708194/rip-2011-2012-denver-broncos

knock yourself out

And by the way I hope that you’re not hoping that Manning has suffered a career ending injury? Cos that’s not remotely classy.

What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....

by British Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions

That isn't what he was saying-----or hoping for. Chill, buddy.

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

I hope so -but not sure how else to interpret the "who may never play again - hopefully"

Look I’ll be glad to see the back of Manning the same as the fans of 30 other teams. But I hope he leaves the game with a voluntary decision and not due to a nasty injury. No player deserves to leave via that route.

If I’ve intepreted Pale Horse wrong then I’ll happily apologise.

What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....

by British Bronco on Jan 15, 2012 2:58 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

I'm not a mind reader

but I interpret it as Manning always kicks our ass and PH doesn’t ever want to face him again. Hopefully, Tom Brady never plays again either.

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden

Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt

by Digger24 on Jan 17, 2012 4:50 AM MST up reply actions

"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy," and there was a reason why that was first said.

Right now, it is probably the NFL coaches that come closest to putting in the longest hours at work and getting the fewest hours of sleep each day during the season, but then even they look forward to much deserved time off.

Tebow doesn’t need to work 100% of the offseason. He doesn’t even need to work as hard as the hardest working player in the league. No, he just needs to do the types of things in the off season that the hardworking, elite, Super Bowl championship quarterbacks did.

by 9798 on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 AM MST reply actions

+1

by citrite on Jan 15, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions

Something to keep in mind

What Tebow needs is time spent with the coaching staff (and with Elway who has said he plans to work with Tim in the off season).

That being said, the Collective Bargaining Agreement has very specific provisions about how much time players are allowed to spend at the team facilities working with the coaching staff during the off season. My guess is that Tebow will be there as much as is allowed under the CBA.

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on Jan 15, 2012 10:12 AM MST reply actions

Good observation Brian....and I agree 100%

Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

by broncofaninIL on Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM MST up reply actions

I know and I find it repugnant..

Collective Bargaining Agreement has very specific provisions about how much time players are allowed to spend at the team facilities working

Players don’t want to feel a need to keep up with the Tebow-types. Geesh.

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions

Tebow's off the field stuff is fine.

Most players have camps, foundations, commercials and other things to do aswell and they’re just fine.

One thing no one should question is tebows work ethic

by Scotty Payne on Jan 15, 2012 10:40 AM MST reply actions

this ^ ^

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 1:02 PM MST up reply actions

+ 1

by tiderfootball09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:37 PM MST up reply actions

Add em up.

by grampa16 on Jan 16, 2012 8:57 AM MST up reply actions

NFL players are tied to a team 365 days a year on contract only...

What they do in their off time is basically their own as long as they don’t conflict with the contract wording…

Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!

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by bfree2bronc on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 AM MST reply actions

There should be little doubt....

….for anybody that has followed Tebow’s career, they know the work ethic of this young man. Undoubtedly, Tebow will do some of the mission work that he has since he was a kid, which is great, btw(some things are more important than football, you know). BUT…when it comes time to start that practice this off season, I would venture to say that there will be no one who works harder than Tebow will. The question will be, will Elway be able to handle Tebow’s intensity or not? If he has a full off season to gel with his receivers, and we can maybe pick up a great TE, I believe we’ll see a remarkable improvement next year. Remember, at Florida, Tebow had Hernandez(TE), Percy Harvin, Rainey, and some other great targets to throw to. I think DT and TT will connect great this off season, along with Decker. Anyway, I am disappointed after yesterday’s game, but I am already looking forward to next year!! I have no doubt we’ll take the AFC West again. GO BRONCOS!!!!

by Mark Roy-Brooks on Jan 15, 2012 11:16 AM MST reply actions

It won't be Elway working with him off season,

but a QB coach that TT will hire. . Elway may go into a film room with him to go over reading D’s but beyond that, I doubt it. .
Urban Meyer was a micromanager and practically killed himself with the hours he put in …..but said he couldn’t keep up with Tebow’s work and time,

TT will do whatever he is asked to do and probably double that of most other players..

GB 2

by Boiler etc on Jan 15, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions

I understand where the concern comes from

Tim Tebow has rose to the kind of fame that possibly has never been seen before in the NFL and with that will come many obligations and opportunities off the field. One guy that comes to mind that went through similar fame is Dale Earnhardt, Jr….guy got bigger than his sport and with that came so many obligations that his schedule consisted of multiple sponsorship appearances, commercials, interviews, etc. and I think it ultimately cut into his preparation and focus as a driver, and his performance declined as a result.(went from 6 wins in a season and contender to a 100 race winless streak). The one thing going for Tebow is his fire inside his belly to prove everyone wrong and also be his very best which may be more than enough to handle his offseason schedule properly.

by knoepke84 on Jan 15, 2012 11:27 AM MST via mobile reply actions

Getting your butt kicked in the post season

Almost every player in the NFL are fierce competitors, they don’t like to lose. If you were Tebow, you can’t help but to be fueled by the loss to NE.

If I got my ass handed to me on a national stage 2 games away from the Superbowl, you better believe i’d be out there busting my ass to not repeat anything like that again.

by Kwon on Jan 15, 2012 5:01 PM MST reply actions

No Doubt about the Effort

When you get to bed at a reasonable hour each night you are able to handle alot more stuff. Tebow’s advantage over most guys his age is he is not in the nightlife scene. He will have plenty of time to do the work necessary to improve. Bigger question is if he has a high enough ceiling as a QB to become good enough to win it all.

by denverrefugee on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM MST reply actions