Broncos Receivers And Drops

I’d like to know if there was any difference in the drop rate during Orton’s time and Tebow’s time at the helm. Also did the drop rate increase after Lloyd was traded?

But honestly, my own conclusions are that a drop rate of an extra 1.5 passes for every 100 attempts is not enough to change one’s play-calling, or decisions of who to throw to or when to pass.

In other words, I don’t think the worse drop rate is very material in the performance of our passing game this season.

Now, there are still a ton of other factors. Bad receiver routes, bad attitudes, quarterback physical inaccuracy, quarterback aiming for the wrong location, quarterback/receiver timing problems, etc, etc, etc.

our new qb is used to guys being way open, not struggling to get open… evidence of the shortfall is when they put royal in to catch..

TTs targets in college were Hernandez and Harvin and Cooper.hello ?

Gb has one of the best passing offenses in the league. Did anyone see how many passes their receivers dropped last night against the Giants? My point is… all teams drop passes. The best to the worst. In no way shape form or fashion will replacing WRs get Tebow from 100 yards passing to 300 on a regular basis.

The only way for Tim to become the NFL QB he was in college is for Tim to put in the work himself. Changing the players around him might help a little, but not enough to make a significant difference.

I’ve looked for the drop stats and couldn’t come up with anything like you did. You left us to draw our own conclusions, so I’ll put it simply:

Our receivers weren’t good enough.

Doesn’t matter who you want QBing this team, the receivers need to improve or be improved by addition. Now, I wonder what the stats would show if you split them up for Orton and Tebow. My guess is Tebow got the worst end of the drops slightly, if only because Lloyd went missing.

Here’s my take on it.
There are defined drops, however they’re defined , they’re proabably consistently defined for all teams. And then one needs to consider “the absence of tough catches”. Every week as i watch the top teams and top receivers play I note that there are some players that consistently make "tough " catches. These are the catches that would not be defined as drops and can be excused due to the ball not being in the optimal postion or a catch in spite of a defender being in the right postion. You know the diving catches of low balls over the middle, the tightly contested catch where the receiver dominates the defender, the reach back catches when the pass is behind the receiver, the leaping , toe tapping sideline catches, or how about that one handed catch that Foster made yesterday. After Lloyd left this year I honestly can’t remember any catches that wowed me into saying that was a great catch. I do unfortunately remember a bunch (I thought it was far more than 28 but that’s irrelevant now) of missed balls that stopped drives or put us behind schedule to the point of no recovery. One other thing that must be considered is on what down were the passes attempted. It’s one thing to complete a pass on first down against a standard formation with 4 DB’s and a balanced front but a bit more difficult to do when the defense knows exactly when you’re going to pass ie.. 3rd and long because you almost always run on 1st and 2nd down.
What these stats do tell me is that our passing game is in the bottom 10% of a league that is designed for the pass. However one chooses to interpret the why it is and how to fix it will be a very interesting dialogue.

Green Bay Packers are the ONLY ones that should be crying about drops.

…and also which ones would give us a 1st down or FG range are factors to consider. I don’t like this pure “Passes dropped” stats given this way.

is for us to have access to coaches films and watch the entire season play by play again. Then we could spot where the ball was supposed to go and when, who ran the wrong route etc.

But since we’re all trying to make conclusions based on CBS broadcasts and in most cases a single viewning as a somewhat biased fan, I’m pretty sure we’re all off on most things.

We can all look at things like “Decker probably should have had that one” but we didn’t realize that Royal was completely open in the slot. A lot of conclusions being made around here without the benefit of a full view.

I just realized this was kind of a rant with no target and perhaps no purpose…