The weapons Tebow needs on offense...
So after watching this seaon as a new Broncos fan, Im excited about the future. After watching Tebow's entire career at Florida under Meyer and after seeing his first two seasons in the NFL I have some ideas for building an offense around him that can work in the NFL
I want to start off by saying that as a fan of Tebows, I am still objective in evaluating his ability as a Q.B. He played awful at times this year, his accuracy absoloutley has to improve, and so does his confidence in his ability to throw. Most of the bad Tebow we saw this year was a Q.B. who was restricted to a very conservative play caller, but he may have known what he was doing considering how much the Broncos achieved this year with a brand new Q.B., new coaches, and no offseason. So we should expect much more next season, he has to play like he did in the 4th quarter for the first 3 quarters, and with the confidence of a full offseaon of reps and finally having the support of the whole coaching staff being the starter there should be no excuse for not "pulling the trigger" and he should play with the confidence he did in college.
I am confident that Urban Meyers spread offense could not work as successfully in the NFL as it did in college, the mismatches he created from his teams speed will not be nearly as prominent because everybodys fast in the NFL. But people get this conception that all Florida did was run the option, and Tebow cant be an accurate passer. This just isnt true, Tebow was one of the most effecient passers in college history. He can pass extremely effectively if he has weapons on his team. At Florida Tebow had some great recievers and backs, many are doing well in the NFL now like Riley Cooper, David Nelson, Percy Harvin, Aaron Hernandez just to name a few.
What the Broncos were fielding in the 11-12 season for recievers was sub par to say the best. It doesnt matter how good your Q.B. can throw if he doenst have any recievers that can get open and catch the ball regularly. Most rookie and sophmore Q.B.s in the NFL this year had better recievers and playmakers on their offense than Tebow did. Look how highly drafted Blaine Gabbert was, he had one of the best running backs in the NFL, but probably the worst receviers in the NFL and look at his stats. Tebow was basically a rookie this year, and when you compare him to the rest of the rookie and sophmore Q.B.s in the NFL he actually did quite well. The young Q.B.s that did really well this year like Cam Newton, Andy Dalton both had better offensive weapons to work with than Tebow, same with Christian Ponder and maybe they had better passing completion % but they werent nearly as successful as the Broncos were with Tebow, so there is alot to look forward too.
While the Broncos are lacking elite playmakers on the offense, and definitely need an upgrade at WR there is alot to be optomistic about. Demaryius Thomas proved to us in a few games this year he can be one of the elite and uncoverable recievers in the league, I think we should all be fairly confident he will improve next year in his 3rd season and as he develops chemistry with Tebow in the offseason he could be nasty next year. Eddie Royal is another talented weapon who I thought was really under utilized this year. Given that they had to revamp the offense mid season for Tebow Im sure we can expect him to be used more next season. If Demaryius Thomas can become the big threat that defenses worry about, Eddie Royal will reap the benifits just like he did in his rookie season with all the attention on Brandon Marshall.
Now the 2012 draft is loaded with great recievers, Justin Blackmon, Alshon Jeffery, Michael Floyd, Kendall Wright, there is alot to choose from. Denver needs to get a playmaker wide reciever with thier 1st or 2nd pick. If they can get one more deep threat for Tebow that might be all it takes bust open the Broncos passing game. They might not hurt picking up a stud tight end if they can either in free agency or in the draft. Rosario and Fells had some great catches but just werent consistent enough, now maybe with player development they can become great but that is yet to be seen. I think we all know how deadly a weapon a great tight end can be after playing the Patriots twice this season, Gronkowski and Hernandez especially Gronk bullied through defenses all year and was unstopable.
I think we can all agree that the Broncos are going to always be a run first team with Tebow, and thats fine as long as there is some kind of balance, not 15 passes to 60 running plays. But that said, Magahee was great this year but hes 30 years old. Now I think he can still have another season or two like this year, but hes gonna have to share the load with someone else. Knowshown Moreno looked pretty explosive to me before he got hurt and I think he may be able to make a comeback and still be great. But if his injury keeps him from being that explosive player the Bronocs got to pick up somebody else this year. Even if they can just get a good blocking full back that can catch out of the back field that would be and upgrade over Lance Ball, even though he did play well at times.
Broncos will likeley be able to pick up a very fast scat back this year with a low draft pick. The scat back/ slot reciever type player has shown to make immediate impacts on NFL teams lately, guys like Dexter Mccluster, Percy Harvin, Desean Jackson. The fact is if a guy can run under a 4.3 40 yard dash and has shown he can play at the elite college levels, he can probably make an impact somewhere on your team. Tebow is used to playing with guys like this in the spread, there are 3 great guys like this coming out in the draft and can probably be had for lower draft picks, you got Lamicheal James, Chris Rainey, Jeff Demps, and Jaquizz Rodgers. Grab one of these guys to go with what you already have in Eddie Royal as a speedster and the Broncos are gonna start to look a little like the NFL's version of what Tebow had in college.
In conclusion, the Broncos already have a solid foundation with what they have now in Demaryius Thomas, Willis Magahee, Eddie Royal, etc. But I think they need to spend their first pick on an elite deep threat reciever, which one should be available even in the bottom third of the first round. Then I think they need to get a "scat back" which I think they can get at great value in the 2nd and 3rd rounds maybe even later. Invest a good amount of money in finding a solid tight end who is versatile. In todays football tight ends can play 3 different positions, from half back to fullback, and blocker or reciever. They are invaluable. Just a few more weapons in the passing game will open up what they already have, and assuming that Eric Decker improves next season which im assuming he will since he is so young the passing chemistry should be much better next year. The offense is young and I expect players like Rosario, Fells, Willis to all improve and hopefully at least one makes an emergence next year.
We know Tebows best pass is the deep ball, so hes got to have more deep threat recievers, get him that thorugh the draft and free agency and watch what happens.. When that opens things up he is comfortable hitting his speedsters and slot recievers like Eddie Royal with some screens and cross plays. Once they respect the pass, its over with. Tebow, Magahee, Knowshown whoever will just eat up yardage behing that beastly young offensive line who were probably the best run blocking line in the NFL. So it up to that team thats already in place to work their ass off this offseason to develop chemistry on offense, and develop as players since they are still young and have so much growth potential. The coaches and staff have to play their part and put together the most weapns they can for Tebow.
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Louis Murphy is another one
I’m not sure how he fared this year with Oakland, but he looked like the best wide out on that team his rookie year (which isn’t really saying much, but I digress).
I agree with you. Tim Tebow needs some new toys to play with on Sundays… and I’m not talkin’ bout Bibles. Preferably, we need some offensive speed – DT is a great start.
We need to find a Hernandez type TE for Tim to find deep down the seams…. AND, a Percy Harvin type WR who can run all the trick / option plays, and be that dump off guy who can make those 1st / 2nd defenders to the ball miss, and pick up some chunk yardage. We need some YAC guys on this team… I think Knowshon and Demaryius are two good ones, but we need more (especially with Moreno’s future being uncertain here).
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yessir
Yep I guess u watched Florida play a little bit in those NC years with Tebow..but I’m with ya bro
by JDUVAL911 on Jan 19, 2012 9:36 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
How could you not watch them?
and I’m not just talking about over exposure (like we’re seeing with Timmy now). If you consider yourself a fan of all things football, it’s kind of hard not to watch some of those Urban Meyer coached teams and drool a little bit. The Florida Gators, during that span, played some straight up dominant football. I myself am a Mountaineer fan through and through, but the way Tim Tebow plays on the football field, makes him a man after my own heart.
I’m trying to think… but there’s another name we missed. Ohh… I remember now!!! Andre Caldwell – from the Bungles – used to play with Tim in Florida…. did he not???
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
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by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
Kendall Wright. Probably won’t be there at 25, and Denver will be staring at worthy DT, CB and MLB prospects, but that kid seems like a great fit in a Tebow offense.
by Pigskin on Jan 19, 2012 9:34 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
It is not a given
EFX will go defense. I could be alright with a Kendall Wright pick.
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I don't think it's a given
but it should be. I’d rather keep stocking our D, which showed it’s pitiful nature again after Dawk left the lineup. I know the D looked elite during that 6/7 game span, but eventually the true colors bled through. We are in desperate need of some worthy DB’s, a mad dog DT, and a stud puppy Mike Backer.
If the pick does indeed turn out to be an offensive one, you can bet your arse it WON’T be a WR. If the pick goes to offense, it will either be a RB, or an O-Lineman. I betcha anything. Our 1st round pick (if we stay put) will be a RB, OL, MLB, DB, or DT.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
:)
Let’s see that would give me WR, TE, QB, DE, OLB, P, K, LS. No seriously, if we bet you get offense or defense, not both. LOL
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I just figure it will be defense again
every level of the D could use an injection, but offensively, we already have a bunch of young guys who could pan. I just think IF it’s offense, it will either be a RB or an O-Lineman, to continue the success of John Fox’s passion – the ground attack. If it’s defense, take your pick… we need just about everything.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Hey you get a FB too
whatchoo whining about
A 1st rd. FB.
I’m a big proponent of a great FB, but shit he better be Superman.
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FB
We can find a lot of talent at FB using a 6th or 7th round pick, and also at free agency!
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:06 AM MST up reply actions
LOL
Sorry Fabio I think we lost you somewhere there.
We were just kidding around.
Evan Rodriguez FB 6-3 250 Temple would be a hell of an add for Timmy though. And for McGahee.
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Oh sorry, didn't get the sarcasm this time =)
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
And btw...
I can remember a franchise who selected a 1st round K lol
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 7:12 PM MST up reply actions
"The weapons Tebow needs on offense..."
are already there. They just need time to develop. After all the years of neglect by Shanny and McD, we need to draft D, D, with a helping of RB. Thats the only thing we need on O. Maybe some O line depth
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Yes
and a TE to step up, but you already said that (they’re probably “already there” – at least some of them). I agree that the only thing that’s not already here is a capable RB who can split time with McGahee. I still have hope for Moreno (I love his style when it’s working, not the leg flopping stuff), but it’s becoming more apparent to me that he’ll be left behind when the season rolls around.
O-Line depth IS needed… Hochstein is a FA, and Manny Ramirez scares me, even though I liked his potential coming out of college. Kuper will more than likely be back to start, but we have no backup Guards. I’d almost be tempted to take David DeCastro if he somehow fell to us. And not as a backup.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The TE's need to step up
but at the same time we dont really use them enough, in large part to Franklin always needing help. I remember Max doin a post on it, and it was on the radio today, that Foxy doesnt really like to use TE’s. Now, Im sure Fox can change, but for the most part he liked em as extra blockers in his run scheme. Our rookie TE’s can develop well under Fells and Rosario, both of them have made big plays when used and targeted
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Im wondering if Luck is going to be as good as advertised.
2 of those O lineman from Stanford are projected to go in the 1st round. Im sure he will be good, but Im wondering if he looks as good as he does because of his line. Im a little skeptical about the him being the next (insert HOF QB here). I would be more than ok picking up decastro. Kick Beadles to back up
"It's all over fat man!"
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"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Mel says he's the best
he has ever scouted.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
He also said some ridiculous things about Russel
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
I'll take your word for it then
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Indy has a very good o-line now
unlike most of the teams that get a “franchise QB” every two years or so.
Murphy Got Lost in Oakland's WR Congestion
He was good at Florida, but he drops a lot of passes. Way too many for Denver to seriously consider.
yeah
I wasn’t lobbying for us to get him, just naming him as one of the receivers Tebow used to throw to. I wasn’t even exactly sure what became of him after that nice rookie season of his.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
No Faith in Eddie Royal
He’s a backup you never wanna play. At best. Hope Denver isn’t counting on him for anything except kick returns.
I doubt they're counting on him for anything, seeing how he's a FA now
I bet they let him slide. Fast Eddie is one helluva return man though. That aspect of his game has been invaluable the past few years, and there’s no way we win some of those games we did without his Ret scores.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
He's no Harvin
but he could be more like him if used the same.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
I agree
but more than likely we’d see little Eddie writhing in pain again, not able to withstand NFL punishment. I think it’d be cool to see us resign him as a RET… he is very good in that area.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
I would love that also
but I dont think he wants to stay
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Here's how I see Royal...
Eddie Royal is becoming the ‘Ted Ginn" of the AFC. Receiving skills are below average at best. However, his ST “return” skills are well above average. If you watch Matthew Willis bring the ball out vs Eddie Royal it’s night and day. If Royal’s gonna stay, it’s gonna be as our own version of Ted Ginn…?
"we don't plan to fail, we fail to plan"
" character is who you are, reputation is what they say about you"
"always have character, don't be one"
That is exactly how I see him.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
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Theodore Roosevelt
Me too
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 20, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind that a bit
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Shouldn't draft a receiver...
unless its a big physical guy to develop in the later rounds. Decker and Thomas both dominated games at times which is extremely impressive considering both are just second year players. We need to give them some time to grow. What we do need is to go find a tweener who can be a match up nightmare at TE. We need to find a grook or a hernandez to be a safety net for tebow. I love the idea of picking up another back but lets make sure we get good value there as well. When our Oline is clicking any solid back can have a huge game. Priorities for this off season should be to get a studs at TE, MLB and DT. A cb would also be nice but I love Harris and Squid if he can return to form after being hurt.
Agreed
If there’s one thing in this world that Josh McDaniels knows, and knows well… it’s QB’s and WR’s. I betcha anything if poor old Kenny McKinley had stuck around (Christ rest his soul), we’d be seeing his worth right now as that missing slot receiver we so desperately need.
Demaryius is a poor man’s Megatron, and I’m starting to wonder if he’s not just another Megatron period. There wasn’t another WR besides Megatron who matched DT’s December / January productionDecker is a young Ed McCaffrey with more athleticism. To be as young as he is and win a fundamentals award for hands is just awesome. I love those tough nosed guys with bear paws for mitts.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 11:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Demaryius Thomas: The first time he goes up and wrestles the ball away from defenders we'll know...
We’ve just got a taste of what DT can do and will be able to do.
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
have to disagree with decker
While Decker was the leading receiver before he got hurt I don’t ever remember him dominating a game not even close, and the sad part was he was the most consistent! He is too slow and dropped way to many balls. He lacks in overpowering size to be a threat in the redzone, lacks speed to break away from coverage and get under ball, and dropped more big play catches thab he caught. Can he get better? Probably but not much, but if he can develop into a clutch possession receiver and became a steady set of hands and run better routes he can develop into a difference maker since he’s so young. But D.T. Has the highest ceiling, and everybody keeps acting like E. Royal is washed up! No way he is worth keeping, he can’t be asking for too much money, I mean if he can have the kind of season he had his rookie year, at 25 he can still do it and more! I agree Defense is gonna be more important for the Broncos on a Tebow team, but the defense really just needs an aggresive strong safety and cornerback and champs got another year in him, and Carter filled in good for Dawkins just needs to be more physical, but if u don’t get Tebow another good receiver don’t expect the passing game to get much better.
by JDUVAL911 on Jan 19, 2012 2:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
The kid has more tlent than people realize and hasn't reached his ceiling by a long shot...
I just wonder if during the season he was preoccupied with that singer gal?
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
I think the switch to Tebow eventually wore him out
When Tim entered the lineup, those Wide Outs had to block their asses off all game long… every single game! It’s hard for WR’s to get in the flow of a game when they aren’t being thrown to till the 4th quarter. I think Decker was dominant during the early weeks. 8 TD’s in what… 7 games? That’s pretty dominant if u ask me.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
I got to be honest...
what team were you watching. A receivers job is to get open and catch the ball, both of which Decker does very well. Any receiver would be ecstatic to have as many big plays as he did this year. If you want to find another weapon then it has to come in the form of a pass catching tight end because no receiver available where were pick would be an improvement over what we already have in that top pair. Take a look at the dwayne allen kid from clemson, looks like a mix of Gronk and Veron Davis. The defense needs another DT and a MLB we have tons of youth behind those veterans that should be allowed to develop and get their chances
every year since his rookie year I hear that Eddie Royal is being under utilized. maybe it is time to face the facts that Royal just isn't that good.
I think he will not be re-signed next year and I’m ok with that. I’d like to bring in Robert Meachem as a FA.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
by BroncoMath101 on Jan 19, 2012 10:37 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
Meachem isn't that good either
it would be kind of a waste to drop one underachiever for another. I think Royal is much better than he’s played the past 3 years, but due to injuries and the scheme not really matching his skillset, he’s regressed badly. He would probably light up the league again if he rejoined Cutler in Chitown.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
It's attitude as well
and Eddie’s desire to produce fluctuates.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
If I remember correctly...
I heard talk of Eddie being disgruntled like Lloyd was… right before Lloyd was traded. Talk of Eddie being on the block as well? They were disgruntled because they knew their receiving opportunities were about to dwindle.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
I think....
he cheered up when he started getting used in the option game
I think when eddie royal resigns
which I hope he does, that he will come back more dedicated and maybe if he works with tebow in the off season, that they could build a relationship like decker did.
Playoffs!?!? Playoffs!?!? Don't talk about Playoffs!! Playoffs?!?!
Right, because all players typically play better after they get new contract
What’s that? I was wrong? They more often perform in a contract year and taill off once ink is dry?
Meachem over Royal??
Without Eddie Royal the Broncos lose the Oakland game. The Broncos don’t have any other returners at all! Even if all he does is return kicks the fact that he has a chance to break one every time is worth it. He’s no slouch, he’s just suffered from lack of veteran leadership since he got at Denver, multiple coaching changes and injuries.. Get somebody to motivate him this offseason and he could come back hard.. He’s 25, the prime of his physical career why let him go? This is the first offseason they aren’t gonna have a losing attitude and maybe he will feel motivated to work harder.. I wouldn’t trade him for Meachem, dude catches one deep ball every 2 or 3 games, Eddie can be used in way more formations and as a returner, don’t quit on eddie!
by JDUVAL911 on Jan 19, 2012 4:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Vaughn, Squid can both return.
I’m sure we can find someone to return punts. It isn’t like Eddie is Devin Hester. Without Eddie we also won some games. It isn’t like he is an integral part of this offense.
I know Eddie is a fan favorite around here especially after what he did his rookie year but I think that clouds a lot of peoples objectivity about him. A contract year should have been the motivation he needs. If he can’t find the motivation himself to play hard and play well especially with a new contract on the line then IMO maybe he isn’t as good as we thought and maybe he just needs to go find a better system. Plus if this is his prime then he really isn’t the difference maker that we need. Sorry, I expect a player in their prime to perform better than what Eddie has. The last 3 years of his career have been lackluster.
It isn’t just injuries and coaching. Eddie struggles in press. He struggles getting separation especially against physical corners. I wish him the best but maybe he needs a reunion with Shanahan.
Plus I wouldn’t trade him for Meachem either, and we don’t have to because they are both FAs. I just don’t think Eddie will be with us next year and frankly it won’t surprise me at all.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 19, 2012 6:37 PM MST up reply actions
Eddie Royal Won't Be Back
I think Mike Shanahan and Royal will be working together again in 2012—this time with the Washington Redskins.
could be a distinct possibility
also Chicago where he could reunite with his boy.
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by PaleHorse78 on Jan 19, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
I have heard that he wants to be back
Playoffs!?!? Playoffs!?!? Don't talk about Playoffs!! Playoffs?!?!
He has mentioned that on facebook, but it seems like the broncos are more than willing to let him venture out on the free agency tightrope...
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I hope so Mike
I love him as our main return man… he’s deadly when in that zone. I think Eddie would be great with some short passes (hitches and the like) his way… allowing him to do what he does best, make people miss and use those quick feet. If Eddie stays, I want to see him in some gadget plays… reverses… running out of option plays. If McCoy stays OR leaves, I want to see more creativity and balls with the play calling.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Eddie was the pitch guy
On quite a few option plays last season and it seemed like the play got blown up more often than not. Anytime Royal got anywhere near the backfield, it was like the defense knew it was coming. Tebow’s fumble in the first NE game is a good example. Eddie can be effective in plays like that, but they need to be designed and executed much better than they were last season.
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
Eddie can be our McCluster.
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
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The broncos offense needs a homerun threat at RB more then anything.
That puts a lot of pressure on the defense when you have a RB that can take it to the house at anytime. I haven’t seen that since Tatium Bell. I’d rather draft Miller or Wilson—doesn’t matther which one. The last time the broncos made it deep into the playoffs, they had two good RBs. McGahee reminds me a lot of Mike Anderson. Why the broncos let the ravens sign him and Pryce in the same offseason is beyond me.
Also I do agree the broncos need someone opposite DT. I like Decker, but there needs to be another one. I personally would add another big physical WR. To me, that’s why Rivers throws for big yards all the time. It’s pretty easy when you can just throw up to WRs that are 6’5 including a TE that is 6’4. I think that’s why Rivers struggled this year. He didn’t have 3 or 4 big physical WRs to throw to even though Jackson stilled bailed him out throughout the year. That’s why it’s important Juluis Thomas improves a lot. The guy is 6’5 and runs as well as most WRs. I want that WR threat on the field. He could probably win a majority of the jump balls. He’s one guy that could easily take this offense to a whole new level.
by tiderfootball09 on Jan 19, 2012 12:46 PM MST reply actions
I would love to see James at RB
especially if you can get him in the second or third round
Playoffs!?!? Playoffs!?!? Don't talk about Playoffs!! Playoffs?!?!
Alshon
Ya that’s what I was saying he needs another big deep threat like DT, Blackmon is one of the best to come out in a while but no way were gonna get him at 25, but man I watched Alshon Jeffery his freshman year as S Carolina and he was a boy amongst men, he didn’t have as good a sophmore year and he gained some weight but he was still good enough to catch it 1 handed over defenders heads without jumpin, if broncs can get him into great condition he could be sick, and could definitely be had in the late first.. But Knowshown, Magahee, we gotta give one more year because those two healthy as a duo could be sick with tebow in the middle, but picked up a little speed back like L James, Demps, Rainey, Rodgers would give Tebow more weapons he’s familiar with..cuz those dudes can catch a bubble screen and make one guy miss and its housed..we need big deep threat recievers, and at least elite speed guy tebow can pitch to on the option to go along with Magahee and Ball power running
by JDUVAL911 on Jan 19, 2012 2:48 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to get Floyd from Notre Dam. The guy was a beast.
He single handly almost beat Michigan. Also he’s a bit faster than Jeffery. Yet I don’t see EFX drafting a WR. They could easily grab one in free agency.
by tiderfootball09 on Jan 19, 2012 9:07 PM MST up reply actions
If this Lamar Miller kid...
is the second coming of Clinton Portis… then we HAVE to jump on it!!! I love Champ Bailey, don’t get me wrong, but had Portis stayed, he would’ve broke rushing records.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Some of the weapons may be on the team and we don't even know it...
WR Mark Dell Michigan St.
Here’s what ESPN had to say about him before the draft:
“Mark Dell is an acrobatic playmaker when the ball is in the air and is one of the more polished route runners in this entire class. He possesses adequate height and is well built, is consistent and very productive as a go-to guy. He is a reliable target in all areas of the field. Explodes off the line and gets into the defender quickly. Is smooth and fluid in his hips. Shows good change-of-direction skills, body control and balance. Has very good speed. Shows a great feel reading coverages and finding soft spots in zone.
Apparently coach Fox was impressed:
DenverBroncos.com "I think he’s been impressive. He’s been a guy, even the first day of practice, I said, ‘Who is number 83?’ He’s a young guy who came in here, I think he has grasped the offense fairly quickly and he’s been impressive today."
-Denver Broncos Head Coach John Fox (July 31, 2011)
He’s pretty fast too, and can catch sorta like Brandon Lloyd:
Denver Broncos Blog Q4 14:49: “Mark Dell gets involved right away to start the drive — streaking down the sideline for a big completion from Quinn, and then breaking away from two defenders to tack on a few more yards. All-in-all it’s a 26-yard gain to the 13-yard line.”
(Source: DenverBroncos.Com, August 11, 2011)
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
I like Mark Dell
I liked Eron Riley a lot too.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
He was hurt wasn't he? You could be right. Might be that Mark Dell is the deep threat, Royal replacement we are looking for.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 19, 2012 6:39 PM MST up reply actions
Ankle I believe in preseason. EFX enough about him they put him on IR just like Fannin...
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Here's another one...
RB Mario Fannin:
After being carted off the field on Friday, Mario Fannin was waived by the Denver Broncos. However, this undrafted rookie out of Auburn has cleared waivers and will be placed on the Broncos’ injured reserve list. This is excellent news for Broncos fans. Fannin was turning some heads during Broncos training camp, even catching the attention of our own Kirk Davis, who has had nice things to say about Fannin almost every day of his “Kaptain’s Log”. When Mario Fannin heals up, he could come back and become an asset to the Broncos, who were 26th in rushing yards per game during the 2010 season.
KaptKirk does a fair analysis when he goes to TC every year and i appreciate the hard work he puts into it. If he has good things to say about a particular player then I listen. You should too…
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
I am excited about the prospect of Fannin. Guys is 230 and can run a 4.37. What's not to like about that?
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 19, 2012 6:40 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I had high hopes for Fannin
Hope we get a chance to see him in 2012.
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
weapons Tebow needs are
1. the ability to anticipate his WRs and throw the ball earlier
2. recognition of ALL options available to him
3. accuracy in his passes
4. reduced hype (really directed at Tebow fanatics) and some MSM
5. the other 52 players on the team
you get the idea
All that will come and I have a sneaking suspicion that Tebow will surprise a lot of folks next fall...
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
I agree.
Receiving targets HAVE to be better. Whether the young guys improve over the offseason or not, I think the Broncos need at least one GOOD veteran WR, or pass catching TE. I’ve watched most of the games this season multiple times. WAY too many drops and many times that nobody got open until Tebow had held the ball WAY too long.
Most everyone agrees that Tebow was considerably improved this year over last year in his first three starts. What then is the reason that he had a higher completion percentage during those rookie games? The difference is the receivers. He had Gaffney and Lloyd then. The Broncos trashed their receiving corp this year expecting the rebuild and it put a severe hurting on Tebow. Think about it and watch those games. It’s unbelievable how many times guys just weren’t open or dropped balls that hit their hands or chest.
Watching other games you’ll see many occasions where guys catch the ball in the middle of the field or sideline and there’s no one within 5 yards or so of them. They get to run for about 5 yards before someone comes shooting in to tackle them. Then watch the Bronco games this year and see how often it happens. Not often at all. Last year we saw those types of plays with Gaffney and Lloyd. The young receivers this year didn’t have the craft to pull this off unless they managed to blow the doors off their coverage from the outset. If they couldn’t out athlete the opposition, they stayed covered unless the play broke down or otherwise was extended for a looong time. You can’t do that against good, disciplined defenses. DT made a lot of progress towards the end of the year but still was more of the athletic success type of plays. Decker made progress too, though less dramatically. I just don’t know exactly what the team should do, but it’s clear their receiving targets must be much better. I hope they will be. If they aren’t, neither Tebow nor any other QB will be very successful next year.

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