REPORT: Broncos Could Look At Buffs' Rip Scherer If Mike McCoy Leaves
by John Bena on Jan 19, 2012 11:32 AM MST
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PrintWith current Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy looking more and more like the favorite to become the next head coach of the Miami Dolphins, his current team is making contingency plans in case it actually comes to pass.
According to Brandon Spano, the Broncos have already reached out to the University of Colorado about talking to current Buffs' quarterback coach Rip Scherer. Scherer has experience in the NFL, spending time with the Cleveland Browns during Derek Anderson's Pro Bowl season as well as with John Fox in Carolina in 2009-10.
The report is a bit divided, however, on what role Scherer would have. The Broncos already have a quarterback coach in Adam Gase, and some think he could be promoted to offensive coordinator, with Scherer taking over as quarterback coach. Or, Scherer could hire to take over for McCoy, with Gase staying right where he is.
Scherer was the quarterback coach in Cleveland from 2005-08, and was credited with developing Derek Anderson who went to the Pro Bowl in 2007. He moved on to Carolina in 2009, spending two season's with John Fox as his quarterback coach. Matt Moore was his pupil with Carolina, when Moore finished the 2009 season 4-1 with a quarterback rating of 104.9 after an injury to Jake Delhomme.
Scherer also spent time as a head coach in the college ranks - at James Madison and Memphis.
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I'm kinda hoping for New Blood, not another Fox Patsy.
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
by Zac Man on Jan 19, 2012 11:35 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Patsy?
I would think that John Fox would want a guy that has familiarity of him system and philosophies, not a yes man so to speak. I think the days of micro-management are gone in Denver. They left with JMcD…
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
Yeah, for the most part Foxy lets his coordinators do their thing
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
that's how it has to be
micromanagement is not the way to go, if I were ever the boss, I would shun the practice like I would the flu
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 19, 2012 3:20 PM MST up reply actions
Most of his familiars though (like Dan Henning) are not great coordinators.
There are coordinators out there who are good at making the running game an emphasis but don’t have to have experience with Fox. I like Tom Cable for instance.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
by BroncoMath101 on Jan 19, 2012 3:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Having a coach from the enemy can be a good thing when they know that team's familiarities...
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
It would make sense to bring a new QB coach in and promote an assistant if Tebow is to get ANY consistency in the offense he's run/running
"Peace, a journey without distance to a place we have never left."
good call.
with all the hot air about how this offseason is critical for tebow, it’d be nice if he didn’t have to reprogram his football brain along with his footwork and/or throwing motion. i’m kind of ambivalent on mccoy, but that aspect is a little bothersome.
If the Broncos promote Adam Gase to offensive coordinator, or if he leaves with Mike McCoy,
I’d like to see them get Blane Morgan, Air Force Academy’s Co-Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks coach, as the quarterbacks coach.
What names would excite you?
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"If there is anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot NOW!"
...Zaphod Beeblebrox-Intergalactic President
"If you didn't know, now you know"
MIKE MARTZ!!! jk :)
Proud Hoosier, Proud Bronco Fan
by OldBloodnGuts on Jan 19, 2012 12:45 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Joe Paterno?
Gase seems a lot smarter than Wink. If they promote Adam, I think that pill will be easier to swallow than the lazy internal hire that was Wink.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
worst hire
of all time
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 19, 2012 7:25 PM MST up reply actions
no I thought of a better one...
Todd Haley
Playoffs!?!? Playoffs!?!? Don't talk about Playoffs!! Playoffs?!?!
Hue Jackson. Todd Haley. Eric Studesville. Tom Clements
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
maybe Bobby Turner.
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
Kyle Shanahan. lol
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Bobby Turner?
"If we cannot find a way, we will make one." -Hannibal
by AvalancheRescueDog on Jan 19, 2012 6:00 PM MST up reply actions
It's innovative, couldn't hurt
but if Todd Haley comes here, I want him to wear deodorant EVERY DAY, if we want to take the next step, everyone has to give a little
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 19, 2012 12:59 PM MST reply actions
or Brian Billick
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
true story
one time I wrote the Giants a letter wishing them Good Luck in the Super Bowl (it was the year the Ravens killed them) and Denver had been beaten by the Ravens in the Wild Card round so I was angry at Baltimore. On the weekend between the championship games and the Super Bowl in early 2001, I received a letter back from Coach Fassel, thanking me for my kind remarks.
I still have the letter, it says New York Football Giants and all that
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 19, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
I always liked Fassels attitude. That is pretty outstanding in todays sports world that you received a letter back at all. Let alone a timely one.
it was 11 years ago
but it still fits within the “modern era,” he is a class act!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 19, 2012 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
Rick Dennison would be incredible. I doubt he'd leave for a lateral move but being the fact that he bleeds orange and blue he might be willing to make the switch.
I wish we’d talk to him about being our O coord. Our running game would stay at #1 in the league and I imagine he’d work well with Tim too.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
by BroncoMath101 on Jan 19, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
RICO!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Can we call him Uncle Rico :)
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 20, 2012 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
Does anyone else wonder
if the whole Tebow thing would scare away the big names. Love him or hate him, I think we can all agree that McCoy took a lot of heat (from the fans) for our lack of offensive production. I love Tebow, but his ability to run (err…pass) an NFL offense is still a big question mark. I have to wonder if the big-name OCs would shy away from us.
by OrangeTexan on Jan 19, 2012 1:16 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Good question. My thought is that TT is such a unique talent w/ unique skill-set that I think you want an OC who
is an innovator, not an old NFL, set in their ways guy. We want a guy who sees TT as diamond to be polished and used in fresh and special ways. An “out of the box” guy. Aggressive. Sees the positives and opportunities TT offers and doesn’t focus on the so-called deficiencies.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Jan 19, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
agree.
i’d also like to have a guy who understands the ‘dink and dunk’ idea. it’s something that would help tebow, like shanny’s west coast edition helped elway back in The Day.
speaking of shanny—the offense he and kubiak put together for plummer is my ideal model.
Isn’t that limiting? It seems like Plummer would naked bootleg to one side with two options…that’s also what I saw with Tebow this year…seemed like he never had more than two options to throw to…if they weren’t open(many times they weren’t), he’d either run or throw the ball away. We need more weopons for TT, similar to what Brady has. Have a guy go deep, one over the middle, a back in the flat, safety valves, etc.
"Mr. President, call in the National Guard! Send as many men as you can spare! Because we are killing the Patriots! They need emergency help!"
by bronco-Maine-iac on Jan 19, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
Hernandez and Porn Star Gronk
are a good start
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 19, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
lol
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Jan 19, 2012 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
Plus, we are all talking like TTs going to operate in a vacuum and does not progress in his mental part of the game...
If he progresses as a QB in his ability to read Ds and everything begins to slow down more and more for him, the more options he has at his disposal the better. Deep throws will always be a strong-suit for him as we’ve seen, add to that the medium and short stuff, all played out of the option set, under the center pro-set, or out of the shot-gun. TT really does provide many more possibilities if he develops his mental grasp of the game as well as I think he can. Shoot! I’m getting excited now just thinking about the possibilities! Can you imagine TT coming to up to the line looking it over with the wisdom of Manning and adjusting the play call on his own based on what he sees the D set in? Can’t wait for Sept…
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Jan 19, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
that’s what i’m talkin’ about! this has been the worst sports media offense in the last year: their inane, repetitive question is,“can the broncos win this way forever?” the answer is NO, of course they can’t! just like the colts couldn’t win if manning stayed stagnant and never improved from his first year. but the broncos can and WILL win because tebow will keep progressing as a player and passer.
by oxmouth on Jan 19, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
the wisdom of Peyton Manning
I will be on Cloud 9!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 19, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
On Tebow's development
I think to a great extent, he already has the mental grasp of the game down, because as early as the combine, when interviewed, scouts were amazed at the way Tebow could dissect not only his college offense at Florida but also those of the Broncos as well as the Chargers and Patriots.
That was 2 years ago. I think he’s had enough film study since, that he understands it even better at this point. That said, from a conservative coaching standpoint, he may not be ready to audible by this fall to avoid overwhelming him. The baby steps approach in my view, is to make sure he can successfully execute from the pocket for the first time in his life before trusting that he can call any play he wants based on what he sees from the defense.
With a lot of offseason passing and footwork, he ought to be expected to first execute plays as they are called before being expected to audible and run a new play he thinks is more favorable. Basically, it makes sense to assume he won’t jump to trigonometry without first taking algebra. Let’s let him improve his fundamentals and prove he can make “every throw” first.
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
it's true
and your mathematics analogy is apt, but I don’t like big-time math, simple arithmetic for me please, nothing more than division
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 20, 2012 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
I would think so...
Gase has been right along side of McCoy all season…
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
Very natural progression too. Gase has been working closely with TT
and in OC position, running the same language and system with an already established relationship…yeah, it all makes sense.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Jan 19, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
Also was the WR's caoch so has good understanding of both sides of passing game
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
Agreed
although I’d rather keep McCoy for another year for the sake of continuity, bringing in a new OC from the outside could set the offense back and I am tired of seeing changes almost every year with this team. Too many changes result in confused players who fail to execute because they’re not comfortable.
I McCoy must leave, promoting Gase may be a better idea than hiring from outside. Although I admit I have reservations about how competent Gase is – Wink Martindale was a promotion from within also and in hindsight, that didn’t turn out too well.
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
I wonder who's job it is to laminate all of the play selection
sheets the coaches hold…just wondering. I wonder if JFox is up at midnight on Saturdays slowly feeding paper through a laminater…. silly thought, I know…I just liked the imagery.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Jan 19, 2012 3:07 PM MST reply actions
ah, that explains it, I was wondering what he does....
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
by rubincarterrocks on Jan 20, 2012 9:27 AM MST up reply actions
I know the position you are talking about but I can't remember the name
Whenever you read the coaching staff they are always the last guys named. It’s some sort of assistant I think.
I remember Jon Gruden said that is how he got his start in the NFL. He’d be up all night editing tape, photocopying plays, etc. and then during the day he’d be setting up practice, etc. Plus he get paid near minimum wage to do it just so he’d have a shot at eventually moving up to being a real coach. Unsung hero’s of every football team.
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Jan 19, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions
quality control coaches
that’s their name
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Jan 19, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
anyone but mccoy
Makes me happy
by coloradoSportsguy on Jan 19, 2012 3:17 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
I'll leave it up to you guys to talk about the names
because I don’t know much about these people. The only thing I know is that when this person does get hired I’ll be here to read why he’s the best choice and the greatest thing since sliced bread. Just like whenever we sign a player or draft someone.
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
I think they need to hire McGeorge in some capacity.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
As I've often said
Mr. Bowlen, McGeorge for GM!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 20, 2012 8:56 AM MST up reply actions
Everyone in Denver is the best at what they were hired for
until we quit sniffing glue and realize we were wrong.
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
OOOOhhhh baby we are setting the world on fire with this option!!!
Haha, just kidding… I don’t know anything about the CU guy.
All I know is I would like to see more BALANCE, and less predictability. More utilizing the things that worked throughout the season for the offense, and less abandoning them after a few uses (Screen passes, 5 WR spread, etc).
I still don’t know if it’s Fox or McCoy, but when McCoy was OC under Studesville – Tebow passed an average of 27 times per game (and I believe it would have averaged more over a full season since his first game as an NFL starter was limited to just 16 attempts)
He averaged 23 attempts under Fox, and that doesn’t account for the overtime attempts made that bump that number up.
I personally would like to see our passing attempts up to 30 per game, with a lot of SHORT passes, screens, crosses, slants over the middle, and more 4-5 WR spread sets. Tebow was extremely effective out of the 5 WR set where we made all of our late game comebacks in regular season.
All of the ESPN guys and local broadcasters kept saying, ‘Why can’t Tebow play like he does in the 4th qt all game long.’ Well let me help you GENIUSES… Most of quarters 1-3 were spent out of the I-Formation or 2 WR ACE sets. It wasn’t until mid-late 4th QT that McCoy and Fox were like, OH CRAP, we need to try and win – at which time they SPREAD THE FIELD WITH 5 WRs and let Tebow survey the field and throw the ball.
And no no no, it’s not because he was going against a ‘prevent defense’ each time.
53% of the time, I'm right EVERY time...
by AlwaysRightSometimes on Jan 19, 2012 8:45 PM MST reply actions
Prevent (Zone) defenses were being dictated by the offensive groupings in the 4th quarter
Romeo Crennel was the first DC (interim HC in week 17) who figured out that rather than letting the offense dictate his grouping on defense, he maintained the same coverage to shut down Tebow Time. It was effective.
In fact, Tebow’s cryptonite appears to be a disciplined 3-4 defense that plays man coverage well.
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
The Bears played some man-cover 3 defenses (out of a 4-3)
Jets played a combo of zone-man cover 2 defenses (out of a 3-4)
I think the 3-4 defense that plays man is beatable for him, but a lot of it comes down to how the coaching stafff decides to attack it. If McCoy leaves, guess we’ll see for sure who’s ‘offense’ we were running. haha
53% of the time, I'm right EVERY time...
by AlwaysRightSometimes on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM MST up reply actions
It won't disappoint me if McCoy gets the job in MIA.
I’m a bit concerned about Gase taking over, but I’ll admit that I don’t know that much about him. Which leaves me at the “If not McCoy, then who” scenario….
Most of the reasons ARS stated above this post, I agree with. Any OC who utters the words “successful” when discussing 3 and outs is not creative/agressive enough for my beloved team. It would also save me wear and tear on my forehead and the coffee table.
I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in an OC from the NCAA…..we need something different than the tired old OC mentality.
If Mike stays, then he needs to improve as much, if not more, than Tim does.
W-L record doesn't matter to me.... I just want to see a team on the rise at the end of the year!
Continuity would be nice
so Tebow can focus on footwork and fundamentals of passing rather than doing all of that and learning a new system.
I am not interested in your exaggeration of reality. I am interested in reality itself.
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