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HERE'S TO A GREAT AND EXCITING OFFSEASON!


Lest we forget, this is a rebuilding team. Compared to where the Broncos were at the bye week this is great. Man I was almost suicidal. How can you bitch too much about this? It will be exciting to see how the offseason plays out. The glass is half full, I hope EFX fills it up some more this offseason. As I Broncos fanatic since '77, I can't wait to see it happen.

Certainly there is immediate need for core players at positions like OG, ILB, SS and RB. If we build that core, we can take the division again and keep on going from there. Let's not sweat the little stuff.

This is my two cents on what should be a lack of controversy at QB and how I'd like EFX to prioritize.

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As far as QB is concerned and I don't understand the hysteria. We can get a QB the draft next year if Tebow doesn't pan out. It will be exciting to see it plays out. The excitement revitalized everyone without exception inside the organization, on the team, and in Broncos nation - us. It has made each player and staff relevant, engaged and invigorated.

My eyes tell me that Tebow is a force and does have strong intangibles, like a terrific mind-set and attitude. These will overcome the rawness of his abilities to read defenses and throw and will inevitably ripen ripen into a very good QB, even if he matures in one area more than the other. I'm fine that defenses have to compromise themselves to stop the outside runs. Seems to me if your opponent can't rush the outside and have their best linebacker spying, that's an advantage waiting to be exploited a lot. Yeah, Tebow would do himself more justice if he would just dump it over the middle for once, don't tell me he can't, and show even more calm and patience Though he very often did, there were those times where he drifted back in the pocket and didn't protect the ball on plays he could have shut down and lived to fight another down.

We all ragged on Orton even through he could spin the ball, milk the back shoulder throw, and seemed like a nice, enough guy. He was hapless in the pocket under pressure, downright spastic on screens, poopy throwing over the top, easily rattled, lacked competitive fire and couldn't rally his team worth damn. Not to mention he played horribly on the road.

Didn't see any choker in Tebow did you? He really bucked up the team. Good to great in the redzone and in the clutch, no? Loaded up and dropped plenty of memorable bombs. I remember some good screens as well. He generally played like an animal on the road, didn't he. Especially in their division versus RAIDERS, CHARGERS and CHIEFS. How friggin' great was that! I want a quarterback like Tebow to keep beating on those guys!

Where we live in Colorado beating the Raiders is geat one thing you can do to keep your job. Losing those games will get your head handed to you and run out of town, viz. the late and not lamented McDaniels.

Can't take away the fact that Tebow has had a very good games passing, i.e. - Dolphins, Vikings, RAIDERS, Bears, and Steelers.

As for the offseason, its a matter of priorities and I hope they don't dump throw big money at OT, TE, WR, SS or CB. Go hard with the $ on SS, ILB, DT, OG, and RB.


DEE-FENSE!
More than anything, we are desperate at safety and ILB, and need to upgrade at DT. We still don't have a dominant pass rush. Mays needs to go back to be primarily special teams and situational run disruptor. I sure as hell hope EFX come up with a top tier a safety in free agency (like Landry), and Fox can convince Dan Connor to come here or just draft a stud like Cole, Burfict, or Hightower. A DT who can cave the middle and create some rushing lanes for the linebackers is a needed upgrade. I'm good with DJ, Woodyard, Bunk and Thomas resigning. Assuming Vick comes back McBean is history - no reason to pay him any FA money. I am not hysterical about CB where we have the great Champ Bailey, the maligned Goodman - who is signed for two more years at okay money, and Harris, as mainstays and maybe Vaughn and Squid as competition/replacements. I would only sweat about CB when and if Bailey departs. Maybe next year's draft.

OFFENSE

I think with better coordination and execution and some depth additions the offense can be even better. I was not impressed that McCoy and Adam are any kind of geniuses, so a reset would be fine, we could do better and not much worse. I trust Elway and Fox can tell the real deal from the posers and have lots of peeps to draw on. I would like to see more consistency on the ground and in the air.

To me, we are looking hard for four guys on offense, first a quality veteran guard, second a young bruising back to spell McGahee and take everyone else's carries, a veteran backup QB with a lot of snaps at a low price point. I am not hysterical about WR and TE. I am okay with the guys we have coming back. To me, Broncos are looking for bench strength at WR, and an upgrade for one TE position if the kids don't pan out. We are looking less hard for replacements for Royal and Willis depending on how their FA shakes out and bench strength at WR. I am not hysterical about TE although I'd look to upgrade that if there is value.


Well I've been at this enough. What do you all have to say? What do you think/want to see happen?

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IMO Safety is a priority of FA. From there it get's sketchy to who or what position EFX might address in that market.

I wouldn’t mind spending some money on a pass rush DE to play opposite of Doom as I would think Von Miller will play his position more this year and catch up on his coverage skills against TEs. Miller can be used in a lot of different ways to get great production out of him without limiting his skillset. This year they played him at the LDE position more out of necessity imo and will teach him his position (SOLB) in the offseason. Three pass rushing threats would be ideal for the Broncos defense along with a pass rushing/pocket collapsing DT. Right now we have none other than maybe Kevin Vickerson and Ty Warren who are both on IR and their future is unknown. Another position of importance is MLB and that guy will be like finding a needle in a haystack. They don’t grow on trees. Mays may be retained for his veteranship and compete with either Irving or Mohamed for the starter role. Draft a couple of CBs in the 2nd-5th rds and develop them into the roles kinda like McD wanted to do with Cox.

Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!

by bfree2bronc on Jan 20, 2012 12:50 PM MST reply actions  

Hey free

What say you if Dawk should say he’s healthy and wants to play another year? Do you not go get another SS in FA?

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by Digger24 on Jan 20, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd do it

"Kool-Aid Kool Aid, Tastes Great, We Want Kool Aid, Can't Wait"

by littletinybroncos on Jan 20, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

As in

you’d stick with Dawk only and Carter as backup?

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden

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Theodore Roosevelt

by Digger24 on Jan 20, 2012 3:20 PM MST up reply actions  

No, I mean draft SS

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by littletinybroncos on Jan 20, 2012 3:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Draft?

Who? Barron. Free and everyone else on the site are thinking signing FA.

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden

Believe you can and you're halfway there.
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by Digger24 on Jan 20, 2012 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I messed up, I meant I want to go after Landry in FA

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by littletinybroncos on Jan 20, 2012 7:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I give him another year

but bring in another middling FA for camp competition. I’m ok with Carter having time on the field, especially if we still have Allen as the DC. Carter isn’t going to get worse, and he was already serviceable.

by brettden on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm not sold we need S that much

We have 2 rookies with some good upside. They will improve, for sure… the kids had no offseason. I think they deserve this year to step up before we think about upgrading them.

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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Bfree

Are you down with Ayers as a DE or not?

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by littletinybroncos on Jan 20, 2012 2:59 PM MST reply actions  

He's a good run stopper but is too inconsistent getting to the QB. I think we need a consistent pass rusher.

I wouldn’t mind Ayers on 1st and 2nd down and then bringing in a pass rushing end on 3rd down (if we draft one) until he gets the hang of playing full time.

I imagine Ayers will be on top of the depth chart next year based on his play in the playoffs but I think we still need to bring in another pass rushing specialist.

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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 20, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he is "decent" pass rushing

He is not that fast like Doom or Miller? Sure not. But he still can get to the QB… This was his first year at his former position (with no offseason), and he already improved tremendously. I’m confident he can be even better next season.

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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Ayers and think EFX do too, but if Fox wants a pass rusher on the other side of Doom then one has to be found.

Ayers, Harvey or Hunter ain’t that guy. Because, I can’t believe EFX drafted Von Miller just to be a DE, but that’s not saying he can’t have the production playing his SLB position. I believe Fox and Allen were using there as a stop gap until they could address the position. We’ll know more about how Fox feels about that particular position either in FA or the draft. If after the draft 1 or two haven’t been chosen then we’ll know that they are fine with Miller playing on the line instead of at his position. I think they will address it though, that’s my hunch even though I have disgussed this a few times with Doc Bear (Emmit Smith of IAOFM) and his belief is that Miller will be used like he was this year. Two goats butting heads that’s all and just 2 differing opinions about the same thing. Don’t get me wrong, I respect Doc’s opinion a lot and think the world of him and his writings.

Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!

by bfree2bronc on Jan 21, 2012 12:39 AM MST up reply actions  

+1 on Doc.

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden

Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt

by Digger24 on Jan 21, 2012 7:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I hope everyone

shares your insight on our overachieving year and doesn’t get to high of hopes for next year. With all the Tebow fanatics I don’t see how most people don’t think we will be SB bound next year.

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden

Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt

by Digger24 on Jan 20, 2012 3:25 PM MST reply actions  

I agree. I don't think we'll necessarily win the division next year due to our much harder schedule.

Its nice to think Tebow will improve by leaps and bounds but I agree that we overachieved and would be pleasantly surprised if we won the division again.

Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.

by BroncoMath101 on Jan 20, 2012 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Me too BM. Me too.

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden

Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt

by Digger24 on Jan 20, 2012 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, we need some core guys to repeat and go higher

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by littletinybroncos on Jan 20, 2012 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

same

I think 8-8 or 9-6 challenging for division next year is a good year. That being said you never know how teams shape up until the games start for real. We make some solid defensive upgrades (DT/DE, MLB & S) we could be real tough to beat.

by brettden on Jan 20, 2012 11:32 PM MST up reply actions  

In other words

the whole middle of our D.

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden

Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt

by Digger24 on Jan 21, 2012 7:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Sure

But some of that may already be on our roster. Irving improves, mays back to ST/backup and we bring in another guy on the cheap who can help out in nickle. Carter and Moore take a step forward in the offseason, and a middling FA to help here and there, better. The real trick is the DE/DT that can get to the qb from the A gap area. We either hit a home run (I’d be ok even with a triple) in the draft or we pay $ for one of two or three guys in FA who can do that. Resign some of our FA guys and we are not better without a lot of change.

Big if on the improvements by our own guys, but that is what we need to happen. Otherwise two more drafts :(

by brettden on Jan 21, 2012 8:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed on the defense LTB.

We have an elite edge rush, but we get no interior pressure whatsoever. If we can get in the QB’s face up the middle we will start giving opposing offenses a very long day.

As far as the O-coordinator, I also was not overly impressed with the playcalling. But I would be ok with seeing McCoy back for one more season. It would give the offense a little continuity and I would be interested to see how that affects the play on the field, especially given that we have a young QB. If we see the same issues in the play calling as this next year though, I would definitely want to go in another direction the following year.

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by the_prodigal_fan on Jan 20, 2012 4:51 PM MST reply actions  

I think Fox said it well...we need lots of upgrades!

It will be interesting to see how they now “pull the trigger” We all see the same thing…you dont play well yer benched or cut…tell me that didnt happen? New guys need time to develop and a fair chance w off season…Tebow> Your job to lose…anyone think he will? I doubt it…with God I mean good coaching that is…ok couldnt help myself…playcalling? well the NFL seems to like our OC an awful lot…he called Fox’s gameplan which the KC game late in the season says maybe was prudent..BUT Elway has made it clear he wants an AGGRESSIVE offense…but our guys- ALL our guys – couldnt deliver consistently…all of our guys btw drops n routes n all…I expect things to ratchet up next year…on D we learned who can play and who cant = EFX will make many adjustments..number one run game in the NFL – who woulda thought? Run all you want till they stop it with our new back TBD to help out…but I swear if we run on third n long again…we’ll be in real trouble…the Team to emerge will begin to take on Elways name…never forget that….not bad though not bad at all for a major turnaround for a remade tea, of lots of rookies , a new staff and new FO…not bad at all…

by Denverkewl on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

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by kwool79 on Jan 21, 2012 10:50 AM MST via Android app reply actions  

THIS!

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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Bronco universe!

Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
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by Digger24 on Jan 21, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

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