MHP list of Free Agents Denver should target in 2012
First and foremost if Brian Dawkins does walk away from this game you aren’t going to find a person in the Draft to fill that role on opening day! So to all of those saying Denver needs to draft Mark Barron please don’t fall into the media hype. Barron has all the hype around him because of the way Bama played but he is as big as a LB at 6’2 225 lbs and runs like one too (4.7-4.65 range 40) so yes safety is a concern but not one that warrants a first round pick that will probably be bulked up and moved to a linebacker position in the NFL. So let’s get started.
QB: Brady Quinn should be resigned. For reasons that should already be known.
QB: Vince Young-Very mobile and ran a system similar at Texas.
RB: Matt Forte-If Chicago is stupid enough not to sign him long term. EFX better have Chi-town on speed dial and get this deal done! This one I don’t really see happening, but he is just too darn good if there not to jump at.
RB: Jackie Battle-Another rock and hard place pick. KC might let him leave because of Charles and being in position to take Richardson in the draft. A long shot just like the above pick but a solid running back in the right system
RB: Derrick Ward-When Derrick Ward played in a rotation system in NY he had some success and should come on the market very cheap. Decent speed and hands.
RB/FB: Mike Tolbert- Once again if San Diego let’s this guy walk. This is a must have guy. He could play the full back role in the triple-option attack. That could be a running attack with Mcgahee, Tebow, and Tolbert this is the definition of power running!
WR: DeSean Jackson- We need a spread the field guy…Who else do you see better than Jackson? I know he is a cancer, but I think I’d still take a chance.
WR: Eddie Royal-I’m really torn here. I like Eddie, but if he doesn’t return I’m not sure I’ll be that upset. I really liked Eddie when Cutler was here but our new system doesn’t have the need for a slot. Maybe a sign and trade deal might be the best thing for us to do with Mr. Royal.
OT: Barry Richardson- This is my tweener because he can play both tackle and guard. Depending on how well Kuper does with rehab this might be a player who can fill in at two spots on the field and that makes him more valuable.
G: Jeremy Zuttah- This again is solely based on the Kuper injury but he is a decent lineman who can play multiple positions.
G: Russ Hochstein- Hoch filled in very well and for that I think should be resigned.
DE: Mario Williams- One of the best DE’s in the league. Another must have guy. The only reason he will be there is the switch the Texans made to 3-4. This guy is an absolute animal and Denver will have to spend big to get him. I say spend it even if it cost us other FA’s. He is worth every penny! Plus this would allow Denver to push Ayers down to DT.
DT: Brodrick Bunkley- Resign!!..Ok done here
DT: Marcus Thomas- Resign.
OLB: Ahmad Brooks- Take a look at him if Williams can’t be had at our price range for DE. With the Smith “twins” in San Fran Brooks was over looked and would step in and be a great addition.
OLB: Manny Lawson- Proved to be stout in a 4-3. While just a two down player he would have to come at the right price.
CB: Richard Marshall-Richard Marshall played pretty well at corner in the second half of the year. He was also effective in stepping in for an injured Kerry Rhodes at free safety.
CB: Cortland Finnegan- Another high price option. Cortland is like a Bentley. He has flash, he brings you where you want to go in style, and he cost you both arms and legs. I would rather have Mario Williams but he would be a nice parting gift if Williams can’t be had.
CB: Justin King- A nice young talent! Has decent size at 6’ 197 and his speed seems to be fast than his 40. I don’t think St. Louis will let him go but Champ could really help him become a solid NFL CB.
S: Jim Leonhard- The Jets are going to clean house and it might be good for us. He did tear his patellar tendon in December making him start next season on the PUP list but I’d still make an effort to get him. At 29 he will give you another 3-4 good years plus help teach the young guys. He was the leader of the secondary in NY.
S: Sean Jones- Sorry guys this is personal. Sean and I played together at Georgia so I would love to have him come to Denver. I backed up Sean for 2 seasons while playing between the hedges in Athens so he has to make the list.
S: LaRon Landry- His injury might lower the asking price (Achilles injury not torn) but I would still take a very long look at him. The price would have to be very organizational sound but if we can make it happen with a clause than I say go get him.
K: Matt Prater-Resign
This is a list of prospects not a list of players I see Denver signing. That would cost us our cap plus 2 other teams’ spending money. So I will narrow the list down now to players that no matter what if there we must sign.
QB: Brady Quinn
RB: Mike Tolbert or Matt Forte (if there ONE of these must be signed)
WR: Eddie Royal (I’m taking Eddie here. DeSean would be nice but I’ll stick with who got me where I am)
OT: Barry Richardson
G: Hoch
DE: Mario Williams- This is my must have pick. If we get no one else this is the one
DT: Bunk and Thomas
CB: Justin King
S: Jim Leonard and Sean Jones (Landry would be nice but I rather see the money spent elsewhere)
K: Prater
I understand this seems like a lot of Free Agent movement and it is but EFX said they are going to be aggressive so let’s all hope they are.
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Dan Connor
The MLB from Carolina is stuck for playing time behind Beason and probably won’t resign there. He would be an upgrade with a young a player at a position of need with a history with our current head coach
by TennesseeBronco on Jan 20, 2012 2:08 PM MST reply actions
When it comes to MLB
I think Denver should go after Lavonte David then move DJ inside. Allowing Nate Irving to learn the position one more year. But that idea goes over like a lead ballon here at MHR.
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by MileHighPride on Jan 20, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
It would go over like a lead balloon with DJ.
He don’t want nothing to do with the MLB spot.
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exactly poor old DJ has been moved around enough
Let the guy play his natural position
Dan Connor would be a solid signing.
What would Blackie Lawless do? Well he'd probably wait till after the playoffs are over before speculating as to what happens in the offseason....
by British Bronco on Jan 20, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
Isn't Lavonte David like 215 lbs? I don't see the point in putting him at WLB when we don't know if he'll upgrade the position over DJ.
You say that Mark Barron won’t be an upgrade over Dawk (which I agree with) but you think this rookie will be an upgrade over DJ? I’d rather go sign a FA MLB like Dan Conner then your problem is solved and if you still want David then he can take over Woodyards spot as DJs backup. Otherwise use that pick on another need IMO.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 20, 2012 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
No but DJ upgrades the middle without question
Kinda twisting things aren’t you? Barron won’t replace Dawkins, and spending a 1st to try is crazy. I don’t think Dan Connor upgrades our middle right now. Joe Mays has 133 tackles in 3 seasons to Dan Conner’s 156 in 4. I mean I don’t like MLB’s that haven’t shown to be great in their first year or two. I also don’t think Dan Conner would beat out Nate Irving. DJ would! Lavonte David is going to be special. Watch and see.
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by MileHighPride on Jan 20, 2012 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
I think DJ already had a stint inside
and it was usually him making tackles from behind after a 6 yard gain. Maybe an indictment of the Dline he was working with, but it happened that way. DJ doesn’t feel like a MLB guy to me, from the outside looking in it looks like a Mays type is just tougher, and nastier at the point of attack. But on Mays, I think he is not instictive enough to be great. He has too many moments where he hesitates.
If we can get a premier guy like Kuechley in the draft, I say go for it, otherwise I think we have to hope Irving makes a ton of progress between now and August.
Dan Connor has been playing behind Jon Beason. You can't take a depth player's numbers and compare them to Mays.
I’m sure David will be special but I don’t see the point in drafting a player that you already have a starter at. moving DJ to MLB isn’t a great fit. He hated it when he played there and his production dropped off. You want to put your players in the best position for them and the team to succeed and for us that is DJ at WLB. I get the love affair with David I just think there are other players who would immediately be better at their position than a player we already have there.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 21, 2012 3:56 PM MST up reply actions
I saw a video once
of kids rolling a bowling ball toward people so they would kick it. I don’t know what made me think of that.
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I hate this move, MHP
I mean moving DJ inside. The guy is a great will, why should we create a problem where there isn’t one? He already suffered a lot playing oop to McD.
Let’s see what Nate Irving can make after a full off-season.. If we realize he is not the next man up, Te’o will be there waiting for us in the other draft.
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:45 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with this. I'd love for Fox to go after this guy.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 20, 2012 3:52 PM MST up reply actions
No way we get Forte
he’ll be tagged.
I want no part in Vince Young, get Garrard instead
Jackie Battle? Ew
Ward is washed up
Id like to get Tolbert
Id rather get Vincent Jackson then desean
GET MARIO WILLIAMS
Brooks is strictly a 3-4 guy
Where would you play Lawson?
Id like Bunk and Thomas back
Finnegan or Marshall would be nice signings
Leonard would be nice
I like jones, but he’s getting a little old
Landry worries me, has an achilles injury that might need surgery, plus he’s injury prone
by Scotty Payne on Jan 20, 2012 2:33 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Thanks Scotty
I know we can’t get Forte but how nice would that be?
Lawson- I’d move to DE then bump Ayers down to DT
I’d take Battle over Lance Ball!
Vincent Jackson will also be tagged.
Watch the “old” talk with Jones…He’s my age! Maybe football old but you should specify!
At least we agree: GET MARIO!
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by MileHighPride on Jan 20, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
It'd be awesome to get Forte
True, but that would be the first time Lawson has played DE in the NFL. He’s more of a OLB i think.
Good point about ball, but i hope we address the RB position and get a few younger backs better than ball.
Jackson won’t be tagged. I think he has been tagged 2 years straight, which means he cant be tagged again.
Haha sorry, football old. Would be a nice signing though
by Scotty Payne on Jan 20, 2012 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
Whoever signs Forte or Rice or such
will regret it. These are high mileage RB’s already. There is a very real limit to the number of NFL carries that most RB’s can take before they start breaking down.
The teams that sign these RB’s to big contracts are going to be the teams that are looking for something WAY beyond yards. Those teams are looking for butts in seats. Those RB’s bring a fan base with them and those butts in seats are what will pay for the contract.
We don’t need that sort of player right now. It’s really the hidden blessing of Tebow. He’s filling those seats already. So we can really concentrate on the undervalued FA’s rather than the celebrities
Do you regret signing McGahee?
Remember that everybody said he was washed up…and he ran for 1199 yards for us last year. I don’t think we need a power back, unless it is Tolbert, but a burner. Somebody that would make the D stay back with there safties. A 1 cut and gone guy. Like Portis or Bell of the old days. I say we draft Miller for Miami or Wilson from V-Tech(I perfer Miller).
Miller, or Doug Wilson
McGahee won’t repeat those numbers though, and he didnt have that many carries under his belt for a few years, was a 2 back behind rice for a few years
by Scotty Payne on Jan 20, 2012 3:39 PM MST up reply actions
McGahee had 3 years of very little rushing at Baltimore
That is called “repair”. And that is precisely why he was undervalued – not a celebrity. there is zero chance that McGahee has two years of the sort of carries he had this year.
Questionable
considering he’s coming off of an injury.
by higgyhoops12 on Jan 21, 2012 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
I doubt that. The Ravens wouldn't be in the playoffs without Rice. Also the bears offense is nothing without Forte.
I would pay Rice the big bucks because he has earned it. Also if you look at three of the four teams left, they have top notch RBs.
by tiderfootball09 on Jan 20, 2012 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
And the one team left without an elite RB has Tom Brady.
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by the_prodigal_fan on Jan 20, 2012 7:22 PM MST up reply actions
Mario is not going to happen
He will likely be one of the highest dollar defensive FA guys out there. Remember X has the cap and an “internal budget.” Translation, we aren’t going to pay top dollar for anyone. Our best hope on the Dline is C. Campbell and/or Cliff Avril. Otherwise wil will bring in lower tier guys and hope one hits, or hope we can do it with the vets we already have.
Lawson’s just had his best season as a OLB in a 4-3. He would be a SAM and would only be back up to Miller.
I am not against Jones though. One of the guys i would be looking at.
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I just want to concentrate on our own FAs right now ‘cause that’s the only ones we can do until mid-March. When that time rolls around we will know who is actually going to be available from other teams and which ones of our own wanted to test the market.
You got some new names thrown out though and I like that. Forte and Super Mario are doubtful to move anywhere IMO.
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Agreed
Any idea how much cap space we have this year? For some reason I was thinking around 15-20 million?
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by MileHighPride on Jan 20, 2012 3:04 PM MST up reply actions
Not really.
Xanders made it sound like he’s bargain shopping again this year.
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They were on DeAngelo and a few other high priced FA's last year
they just were smart and didnt over-pay. So i could see them being active again this offseason.
by Scotty Payne on Jan 20, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions
The salary cap is not a problem anymore
Xanders made an outstanding job cleaning the house.
The money problem we have now, is Mr. Bowlen’s budget. He is trying to save money for now, while we don’t have to spend 99% of the salary cap by the rules…..
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
We have the money but Xanders has said they will be looking at the "value signings" in FA.
To me that doesn’t spell Mario Williams or any other tier 1 FAs. It spells more guys like McGahee and Marcus Thomas.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 21, 2012 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
I don't disagree about looking at "value signings" in FA
But I’d really like to see one or another top-tier sign like Mario Williams. But I’d prefer to sign a top-tier CB for example, like T.Porter.
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
I thought that on Jackson too
but he held out in 2010 they didn’t tag him. They used the 2010 tag on Sproles. 2011 they placed the tag on Jackson, one of the reasons they lost Sproles to NO. Wouldn’t that allow them to place it again on him?
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His contract is messy
He’s a unrestricted FA this year and the Chargers dont plan on bringing him back by the sounds of it. He probably will test the open market.
by Scotty Payne on Jan 20, 2012 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
He would be a good get
but then we have DT, VT and Decker, not sure if that works. I’d rather add a Sproles type (who wouldn’t – oh the super chargers wouldn’t!!). I like DT, Decker and Willis. Add a guy who cannot be covered 1 on 1 by a safety (see Dawk getting burned by Sproles in 2010) and I am happy.
Connor, Landry ++
These guys are going into their prime.
Wow, Mario Williams you’d have to like that but I’d rather see the money spent at a real good veteran OG.
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by littletinybroncos on Jan 20, 2012 3:17 PM MST reply actions
I would love to see Mario Williams coming here. I think it is unlikely we can outbid all 31 other teams for him, but if we could it would be amazing. I am hoping we can resign Bunkley or/and Thomas, maybe McBean (had a pretty good season), Woodyard, and Prater should be a must sign. Quinn would be smart to bring back, but I think he wants to play elsewhere.
As far as all the other team’s free agents go, I would like to see CB Richard Marshall brought in. He would be a good upgrade at CB and allow Harris to play Nickel. I like Forte, but think he will be too expensive. Maybe a player like Ryan Grant would be a decent alternative.
You mentioned that you want to see Ayers move inside to DT. Would this be for only passing downs or do you want him there permanently? I think Ayers is really starting to find his stride at DE, and would be best left at that position with the exception of passing downs. Also IMO Mark Barron is the real deal at SS. I don’t know if I think we should spend a 1st on him, but would not be upset if we take him. For me it all depends on how EFX view the growth with our current group of young safeties.
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by AvalancheRescueDog on Jan 20, 2012 3:34 PM MST reply actions
On Ayers-Passing downs unless we got Williams then permanently. I like Ayers but he is no Mario
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by MileHighPride on Jan 20, 2012 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think Goodman is gone yet
I expect Goodman will get one more year. If the EFX gets it done again in the draft we will have a rookie taking his spot by about week 10. My hope is the Johnson kid from Montana. If he doesn’t blow the 40 time our of the water (we need him to run like a 4.51) we maybe get him in the second round? Maybe the South Carolina kid in round 2?
The reason I don’t think we get a replacement for Goodman in FA is because to get a comparable player we will have to pay more than what we will pay Goodman, and to upgrade through FA will cost even more. Doubtful scenario in my opinion.
I don't want any potential CB i want to draft running slower than 4.49. We need guys who can keep up with the elite WRs.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 21, 2012 4:00 PM MST up reply actions
I absolutely love the idea of getting Tolbert in here.
It would give us a valuable piece while weakening one of our rivals. Additionally, just the thought of having Tebow, McGahee and Tolbert in the backfield at the same time in the triple option look…. if you are the defense, which one do you key off of? Because any one of the three can kill you, and that’s if Tebow doesn’t just fake the run and throw it up top to Demarius as he has shown he is capable of doing.
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by the_prodigal_fan on Jan 20, 2012 4:27 PM MST reply actions
I'd go with Michael Bush
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:49 AM MST up reply actions
I would be happy with either one of these guys.
I still want to get a young guy in the draft though, even if we do get one of these guys. I don’t have much faith in Ball or Johnson, and we do need a younger back, hopefully with speed, to spell the veterans in the backfield.
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by the_prodigal_fan on Jan 21, 2012 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
Brandon Carr, cb of Chiefs
And Super Mario
by Mike@4th&99 on Jan 20, 2012 4:46 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I would like to know how much money EFX is going to spend on Free Agency? 20mil? 30mil? 40?
Re-sign Wesley Woodyard, Brodrick Bunkley, Marcus Thomas, Matt Prater and Brady Quinn.
We signed RT Ryan Harris on a multi-year deal so I wouldn’t even go there in FA (Clady, Franklin, Harris and Clark).
I would try to re-sign Russ Hochstein for the bare minimum or somewhere close. He is a versatile OLineman and can play anywhere along the line in a pinch. Even FB if asked.
The wide receives are young and talented and will develop. I would pick one up in the draft and a couple in UDFA. We have Mark Dell on IR and will return in time for TC.
I would draft a RB and let him compete for the #2 with Knowshon Moreno. Either Lance Ball or Jerimiah Johnson would have to go.
The FB position is a very important one and I think we can do better than Spencer Larsen. His ST play is very good, but I think we could get that from another FB as well. If Mike Tolbert is available sign him.
DTs were addressed last year and I would pick up 1 or two in the draft. (Jerel Worthy, Michael Brackers, Devon Still, Fletcher Cox, Dontari Poe, Derek Wolfe, Jared Crick…You name it they are there.
DEs is a must for either FA or the draft. I personally would “agressively” go after DE Mario Williams in FA. I think that would be money well spent. If we go the draft then Whitney Mercilus. Let Derrick Harvey and Jason Hunter compete for the #3 spot and see where Jeremy beal is in development.
LBs are pretty much set at Will and Sam with a big question mark at the important spot, Mike. It’s very clear that Nate Irving and Mike Mohamed are developmental projects and a big unknown. We may have to find one in FA…Dan Conners? Tray to draft the tall kid Audie Cole in the 3rd. He’s very versatile and seems to be around the ball on every play…
CBs, I would draft 2 to develop for Champ’s position down the road and possibly subplant Andre Goodman this year. That would depend on how far along they come in TC and preseason before the final cuts.
Safety is too young to let stand pat. EFX should agressively get a veteran is has the skills to make a difference in the game. BDawk will be gone imo. Unbelievable that he is going to the Probowl in his 16th year. Not sure if that’s ever happened with a DB?
Agressively go after DE Mario Williams, Safety LeRon Landry and possibly a Guard and FB Mike Tolbert. That’s 4 from the outside and five from inhouse. The rest in the draft or UDFAs. I didn’t spend that much did I?
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by bfree2bronc on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Dont forget Fannin
He too is in IR and will be ready for camp. If I remember correctly he was having a good camp when he went down with a knee injury. He is 5"10" 230#, ran a 4.37 40 at the combine, 21 reps of 225. Fast, strong, with a thick frame. He is my early camp sleeper for breakout player. I think he and McGahee share the load, with Moreno catching balls out of the backfield and getting a handoff here and there.
Nice post bfree.
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I'll take Cliff Avril & Calais Campbell
for my big splash FA signings. 49ers showed how you can use and every down DE (Justin Smith) and a part time DE (Aldon Smith) can work to stop the run and pressure the passer. I think we have a solid DE in Ayers, but we need more pocket push/pash rush from the DT position. I like the idea of Doom, Warren (healthy hopefully), Campbell and Avril rushing the passer, with the occasional Von blitz.
I like the KC running back, Tolbert and Bush from the faiders. I like the idea of VY at qb even though he is a head case. I would also like to see us bring in Dan Lefevour and Dennis Dixon (if we are going to keep zone read sets)
OL I have no idea, but we do need some depth. Hochstien seemed to do much better this go around than the last time he wsa pressed into duty, but I still would like a veteran upgrade, and a draft pick that can make the 53.
At S sure lets go with your buddy, and at CB I would rather find a 2nd or 3rd round guy that can start in a year or two, and stand pat with what we already have. I want Johnson from Montana. He is big (6’3" 200#) and pretty fast (4.4-4.5 40 – we will see what he runs at combine).
Not sure at WR, I like Royal as a return man, but he doesn’t seem to be in snyc with our offense. I would like to have slot guy who is a bit thicker build, more in the Welker/Sproles mold, than a slight guy like Royal.
Yeah, that ain't happening.
Two star DEs in FA. LOL
Dan Lefevour is on Jax roster. You would have to trade for him.
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All about the middle of the D
It starts at MLB. How I long for the days of Randy Gradishar. Even Al Wilson. Either a young FA like Connor or Lofton or the first round pick. It will be nice this year to have the FA period before the draft.
Ooo Yeah!
Man after my own heart here. Mays had some good sticks here and there this year, but he can’t cover.
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Most people don't know it but Joe Mays was rated +10 by ProFootballFocus.
That’s pretty good in terms of production. True he lacks in coverage, but I saw some glimmers of progression there as the season wore on. I can’t help but think that he was sometimes confused with Allen’s overall scheme, and that’s because there is a lot to learn in that with the different alignments and stunts. This offseason should tell the tail on Mays, and I’m not football savvy enough to know exactly how Joe played in that scheme as how Dennis Allen and John Fox feel about him. I guess what I’m saying is… what we see with our eyes might not be the whole story, and the only way we’ll know for sure is when FAs and the draft roll around.
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Thanks free.
You know what you said about Mays, “what we see with our eyes might not be the whole story”, could be said about the whole defense in general. Defensive scheme makes certain aspects of the game appear to be one thing when in fact they are a whole different story. All I know is for 4 or 5 years now we have been burnt frequently by TEs down the middle of the field and speedy RBs to the outside. 1st Nate Webster and Dre Bly were the goats, then it was because of the 3-4, now it’s Mays and Goodman. I’m no football guru, I just state what I see. I see a D that needs better talent at MLB and the CB opposite of Champ. A Steve Atwater clone would do the trick though. Maybe I’m off base.
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You can prove me wrong soon,
But man, I’m confident on Nate Irving stepping up!
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
Ah... most definitely Fab and haing a full offseason will help him tremendously.
I have a feeling we’ll be surprised with a lot of our first and 2nd year players.
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The same to our Safeties...
They all deserve this full offseason before being screwed.
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
Super Mario
Would be a veeeery expensive sign for us to make. I really doubt EFX would do it. I agree with your comments about him, but EFX want to build the franchise trhu the drafts. We have what I think is the best pass rushing duo in the league… So I don’t think they’d burn all that money on Mario.
Anyway, talking about budget, please Mr. Bowlen, give the front-office decent money to work…
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I'm with you Fab and if they really are serious at making a push this year then veteran talent has to be added to the roster.
Developing prospects through the draft only as Legwold sort of suggested is ludicrous and takes years most times to succeed. I would hope we get a couple 4-5 star players (and they will cost) and 2-4 value players in FA.
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
Lord hear you, Bill
I’d like to see the same. We deserve it.
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I bleed Orange & Blue. GB².
by Fabio Broncos on Jan 21, 2012 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
I must've missed this discussion.
QB: Brady Quinn should be resigned. For reasons that should already be known.
This is a given now? When did this happen?
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 21, 2012 10:49 AM MST reply actions
Haha
I must have missed that memo too. I mean I want him to if he signs for a reasonable offer because he loves Denver, but it would be no skin off my arse if he left. Of course what would we do when we play the Steelers in the playoffs again and we need that Brady Quinn package to beat them?
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
Hey where is Rodney?
Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability.
John Wooden
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
He's like Eddie Royal, he only plays when he feels like it...
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
by bfree2bronc on Jan 21, 2012 4:59 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Resign prater!
WE NEED MATT PRATER BACK!!!
also take a look at tony scheffler… Im not sold on our TE group
Signing Prater will get done...
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
Sean Jones is an up and coming safety. Reminds me of a young ed reed.
I like Marshall and some other guys but most of them will be overpaid by somebody.







































