John Fox, Jack Del Rio Talking at Senior Bowl
I'm sure they're pals anyway, but given the timing of this it's worth at least mentioning.
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6 DCs?? In 6 years?
7 is the lucky number!
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by Zac Man on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
I like Del Rio’s style. Snappy dresser.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
and his ties ...
Match his eyes. This man shops at Penneys.
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
Not a great HC, good DC though
Bring him! My 1st option would be Mike Nolan back, but I’m ok with Del Rio.
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 25, 2012 6:07 AM MST up reply actions
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by Nick Cast on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Somebody want to give me the short version of why Jack Del Rio?
Also, is he currently on somebodies coaching staff?
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Jack Del Rio helped Foxy turn Carolina around 180 in carolina back in 2001 or 02.
He’s considered a top notch D Coordinator but an average HC.
Former player I believe. Lots of attitude.
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Went from near worst to 2nd ranked D in one year with Del Rio as DC. Not a great HC, great DC.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 25, 2012 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
He would be just as good if not better then having Dennis Allen.
Also I believe Rio was apart of the 2000 ravens coaching staff that fielded one of the best defenses of all time. I want to say he was the LB coach—correct me if I’m wrong. He did a nice job with the jags defense as well. In addition, Rio likes having bigger DTs—also Fox does too— so it wouldn’t suprise me if they brought in some bigger DTs.
by tiderfootball09 on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 PM MST reply actions
your correct.
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the bigger D-tackles, the better
that’s IMO anyway, but the Jags have had a dominant defense for many years, too bad the offense sucks rocks, it’s like the 1992 Seahawks all over again: Cortez Kennedy on one side of the ball and Stan Gelbaugh on the other smh
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
Jags D was ranked 6th overall this year with largely unknown players
I like it
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they've spent gobs of money on FA's on D in the last couple years
Their draft picks have done very little. No thank you.
isn't that Gene Smith's fault? He hasn't had a decent class in a while.
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Could he step in at middle LB in a pinch?
Seriously though, I would be very happy if we brought him in.
by Mile High ThundaDownUnda on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 PM MST reply actions
I’d think that Del Rio would most likely only be here a year or two. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was offered a head coaching job after next season. Even though Fox is known as a defensive coach, it’d be nice to have a little stability with our coordinators.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Jan 24, 2012 10:15 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Since he's been a HC already and wasn't that great at it probably not. I'd guess he'd be here 2 years at least before being in consideration for a HC job.
The trend now is to go after hot coordinators rather than HC’s who’ve been there. I think this would actually be a good move for stability.
Plus if the reason they are leaving is because we have a good D then that is ok. Better than them getting fired every year because they suck.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 25, 2012 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
He seems like a solid fit as DC. I hope Fox can convince him to come to Denver.
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by AvalancheRescueDog on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 PM MST reply actions
I was hoping he had some good FAs to get to come here. Nope.
Matt Roth (JAC) – DE
Jeremy Mincey (JAC) – DE
Nate Collins (JAC) – DT
Leger Douzable (JAC) – DT
C.J. Mosley (JAC) – DT
Dwight Lowery (JAC) – CB
Rashean Mathis (JAC) – CB
Matt Roth (JAC) – DE
William Middleton (JAC)- CB
Courtney Greene (JAC) – S
David Garrard (FA)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Guy Whimper (JAC) – OT
Josh Scobee (JAC)
Matt Turk (JAC)
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Matt Turk, P (JAC)? Actually Houston.
No love for Dustin Colquitt? :-)
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CJ Mosley also is a name that strikes me but I’m not sure if it’s because he’s good or I just recognize his name for some reason
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 PM MST up reply actions
These names
make Del Rio look even better for DC huh =)
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 25, 2012 6:10 AM MST up reply actions
or MJD demands a trade to Denver.
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Yes!
Who for?
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a 2nd rounder? IDK. a 4th in my dreams
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
One Problem
Del Rio will come here, lead a very successful defense, and then get another head coaching gig somewhere—possibly with the team he played for—the Minnesota Vikings. The Broncos will then have their eighth defensive coordinator in eight years. FWIW, the best John Fox defense during his time spent as head coach was the one led by Jack Del Rio in 2002.
Frazier will be there for 2 more years I'm fairly certain
Vikings fans were pretty calm with the way this season went. I don’t think many blame Frazier for McNabb.
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by Tollyvolley127 on Jan 25, 2012 12:46 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
the Vikes were rebuilding
but really competitive against lots of playoff teams, including us, were they the best 3-13 team in NFL history?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
It goes the same with any other coach
If someone comes in and make this defense a top 10 defense he will be a candidate to a HC job. It doesn’t matter if it’s Del Rio or any other guy. If you do well you will be a candidate. See Dennis Allen.
by OrangeBroncos on Jan 25, 2012 7:45 AM MST up reply actions
I actually disagree with this
I think it will take a few years for him to move back up to HC.
He didn’t do enough as a HC to warrant another chance any time soon.
In fact that is one of the reasons I want to hire him, because I don’t think teams will come fishing for at least 2-3 years.
If we hire a young rising star like Allen again, he’ll be gone as soon as the D shows a little more improvement. Which would be next year since we should draft mainly D and our rookies this year will have a full off season to improve.
agreed. Look at Mike Nolan. Same situation. He hasn't been offered any HC positions since his last stints with us and the Phins.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 25, 2012 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
In All Fairness to Del Rio
He had one of the tightest, most frugal front offices in the NFL. There’s a reason why they started losing games beyond Del Rio’s coaching—much like John Fox in his last season in Carolina.
That is a good problem to have. It means we are making the playoffs again.
Besides, has Mike Nolan been offered another head coaching gig yet? It is good that he’s had a bad HC experience it will make teams less willing to hire him as a HC.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 25, 2012 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
In 2010 the Jacksonville Jaguars shocked the world by taking Cal's DE/DT Tyson Alualo at #10...
About Tyson Alualo
Tyson Alualo is a 6’3 295lb senior defensive tackle out of California. Scout.com considers Tyson to be a four star NFL prospect, the 75th best prospect in the 2010 NFL Draft, and the 8th best defensive tackle in the draft.
Here is one fan’s side of the drafting and team failures…
Didn’t I hear Kouvarous say on radio that all the prior draft picks were owned by Del Rio? It was January 2008 that Gene S acquired the “Executive Director of Personel” position. I believe we need to go back to 2008 draft. Am I right and if not, please explain.
Posters here need to understand this issue first, when (I believe as head of scouts since 2000) did Gene have any authority or input?
Then we can do as you’ve done above. I can be less specific and anyone can see the Jaguars have missed big time in the Draft for over 4 years! I went back and compared who is contributing on other teams from the 2008,9,10 and 11 drafts…. especially starting, and see failure on the Jaguars ability to keep up. You add year after year of this and the total sum of the problems show up like the Sun in a mirror.
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
In my humble opinion, I think Jack Del Rio would make a very fine DC...
Del Rio began his coaching career with the New Orleans Saints in 1997 as the Strength and Conditioning coach. In 1999, he accepted a position with the Baltimore Ravens as their linebackers coach. He is in part credited for the success of the Ravens’ defense, particularly the 2000 Ravens’ defense. After the 2001 season, he was named defensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers. In his first season as defensive coordinator, he led them to the second best defense in the league that season.
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by bfree2bronc on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 AM MST up reply actions
I'm with you on that.
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 25, 2012 6:11 AM MST up reply actions
We have
an opening for a Strength and Conditioning coach also.
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he'll make them drink those protein shakes
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
I remember that draft because I had the Jags in one of the live mocks
And I got Alualo in the third for them
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YFF team: Kenny, Brown, Santon, Smalling, Sigurdson, Tony V, VdV, Sess, Ox-C, Wellbeck, K2
Not as big a shock as Denver trading up to pick a linebacker who can't throw at #25
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Its TE. Get your facts straight
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Urlacher said LB.
Most say FB.
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I thought Urlacher said RB
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Yeah he said RB
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but remember that 1 time he lined up at WR
totally better as TE tho…
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Ok so he isn't a great drafter. Good thing we have Fox, Xanders and Elway to do our draft again this year.
As a DC he won’t be making the final decisions on draft day or in FA but he’ll be putting a good defense on the field like he did in Carolina. IMO
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
With Fox's expertise at defensive players and John Elway's with OLinemen, WRs and QBs how could we go wrong?
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For the record
That “fan’s” side is incorrect. Gene Smith took over as GM in time for the 2009 draft. He has had 3 drafts – 3 first round picks, zero second round picks and a bunch of 3round and laters. 1st first round pick, Eugene Monroe, is a very solid LT getting better with each year (and also the best OT drafted in 2009 by any team). 2nd first round pick, Tyson Alualu, has been hampered by injury, but has been decent to very good in his 2 years. 3rd first round pick, Gabbert, was crap his first year, but was drafted with the idea of sitting for a year, and had no WR help.
Of his 3rd round and later draft picks, Terrence ‘Potroast’ Knighton has been outstanding as a DT, Derek Cox was turning into a very good CB before injury struck, Mike Thomas was very good as a slot receiver and very crap as an x. Rashad Jennings (7th round pick) averaged over 5 ypc as a backup to Jones-Drew. Actually, it’s hard to assess the 3rd+ round picks, because almost all of them have landed on IR in the last 2 years.
What this “fan” forget to mention was this: of the starting 53 man roster Gene Smith inherited at the start of the 2009 season, there are 9 players left. To overcome that amount of roster turnover in 3 drafts (with no second round picks) is a major challenge for any GM, or any coach. Gene Smith’s biggest fault is that he drafts players the average fan has not heard of, and he hasn’t drafted any pro-bowl players yet (with his 3 picks that were higher than the 3rd round)… which automatically makes him a bad GM to the average fan. Oh, and he didn’t draft Tebow, which automatically disqualifies him from having a clue for a large number of Gator fans.
Small correction
I think Britton was a 2nd round pick in 2009. As a RT he was pretty good his first year, and has been sidelined by injury pretty much ever since.
I don't want Del Rio anywhere near the Broncos
The JAGs under Del Rio has done a miserable job developing any of our draft picks. Our secondary finally improved this year because they brought in some good FAs, at least until injuries took out the CBs but it was too little too late. The stories going around is that Del Rio is inconsistent, plays favorites, and was one of the last guys to arrive at work. He badly botched all three QB changes showing no planning or forward thinking at all. For example Garrard was let go after the Pre Season Team luncheon. In other words, he got the majority of the first team snaps during training camp which put both McGown and Gabbert behind where they could have been. Why couldn’t that decision been made earlier so David had a chance to go to another team and our remaining QBs could get first team reps.
Several years ago he got rid of many of the JAG veterans,Mike Peterson, Fred Taylor, Marcus Stroud, Hendrson, and Spicer, saying they weren’t team players. All that did was infuriate the fan base and make the defense much worse.
The JAG defense improved this year because a lot of money was finally spent on some much needed FA. The DC Mel Tucker has gotten a lot of the credit in JAX and has been retained even though interim HC are often let go. Tucker is well respected. How much he is responsible V Del Rio for the improvement of the JAG D I don’t know.
If you think my assessment of Del Rio is harsh, you should hear what most other JAG fans have to say.
Average HC, good (if not great) DC though.
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by Fabio Broncos on Jan 25, 2012 6:12 AM MST up reply actions
Dont worry about what he did as a head coach.
Hes coming as a DC. Wont have that kind of control. Who was the FA in our secondary you speak of? I know of 3 Rookies that were added last year but other than that the others were already on the roster.
by broncs27 on Jan 25, 2012 6:49 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
"They weren't team players"
simply means they didn’t kiss his ____ .
"I'll always use the negativity as more motivation to work even harder and become even stronger."
August 4, 2011
Lots of coaches suck as HC and excel as a coordinator
some examples come to mind
Mike Nolan
Wade Phillips
Norv Turner
He won’t have near the span of control and will have nothing to do with the offensive side of things.
He would be able to just focus on the Defense and having already worked with Fox there won’t be any growing pains. He should be able to step right in and start winning.
You forgot Josh McDaniels. The worst HC of all....ever.
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by KoloradoKaos on Jan 25, 2012 8:33 AM MST up reply actions
I thought about that before I replied and I should have clarified with you first.
It felt really strange to give him credit for anything too but I just hit ‘post’ anyway. I guess it’s part of the healing process for me. I’m really trying to move on.
I agree with your comment though. It happens all the time in sports and in the ‘real world’. Folks are promoted to their level of incompetence. The NFL is a bit strange though. Teams will continue to give bad coaches and players a 3rd, 4th and 5th chance. I think Jack would be a good fit for Denvers DC.
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by KoloradoKaos on Jan 25, 2012 8:42 AM MST up reply actions
totally understand
and while i think he excelled in New England, he obviously didn’t in St. Louis.
So how much of his success was based on the pieces and program put together by Weiss and Belichick and how much was actually Josh’s?
I don’t get giving coaches so many chances either. I mean Wade Phillips is obviously a great DC, he has a proven track record of it with many teams. But a 2 year old can look and see he has always sucked as a HC and will continue to suck in that role.
by trumanj on Jan 25, 2012 9:00 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
He Just Needed More Time!!!!
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by KoloradoKaos on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
it didn't take him long to pull out the spygate mechanism
trash is trash and while he could change if he really wanted to, he showed a lack of integrity and maturity with this scandal
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
Hoodie's way is the only way in McD's world
Spygate should never had come as a suprise.
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
Del Rio has always coached good D but i share the sentiment of others
He could be picked up by another team soon after. Still, he is our best shot.
Get the best talent available for d coor
Worrying if somebody will leave or not doesn’t matter, good coaches move on
Exactly if a coach moves on we then get another good one
by always broncs on Jan 25, 2012 4:55 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I think ill trust fox and elway to decide who to hire and not what some fans have to say about him if we ask them.
by always broncs on Jan 25, 2012 4:54 AM MST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
M.I.G.
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by KoloradoKaos on Jan 25, 2012 8:34 AM MST up reply actions
Wait. Why did my 'actions' button just disappear?
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by KoloradoKaos on Jan 25, 2012 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
Fox is the HC
for at leats 3 more years I hope. His coaching staff had better be people he has good comraderie with. The HC/DC relationship with Del rio was almost 10 years ago. People change. Does Fox still like him enough to work with him everyday? That’s for him to answer. He doesn’t have to do it right away though.
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leats=least
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Boys, and not calling anyone out, but trying to keep things realistic...
Anyone who starts the argument for not brining in Del Rio based on what he did as a HC is not getting it.
HC role is so much more diverse than just coaching…..Del Rio may have been an average HC but when it come to X’s and O’s defensive coaching and installation of defensive systems the guy has been a proven winner.
We would be lucky to have him here. I am severely doubtful whether he would be offered a HC job with in the next couple of seasons.
If we have a chance to get Del Rio, we need to. He a a great defensive coach and co-ordinator.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
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by boydy2669 on Jan 25, 2012 6:52 AM MST reply actions 7 recs
Well said Ben...Rec'd
I think that Del Rio may just be one of those coaches (Phillips?) that is truely out of his element as a HC…He could well be one of those DCs that would be better off making his name for what he does best – DC…If we have a chance to get him we should not let him slip through our grasp.
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by BroncoSense72 on Jan 25, 2012 7:31 AM MST up reply actions
very true. He won't get a job as a HC for a while.
Dom Capers still doesn’t have a HC job. or Wade Phillips
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
We are talking about the Jaguars?
Under Del Rio, there were years when the JAGS were one of the worst pass defense in the NFL. Our pass rush was pathetic and our secondary was regularly torched. This is despite multiple draft selections to improve the ever elusive pass rush and I saw very little development of any of those players. I watched multiple QBs (Brady. Warner and McCoy) have the best passing games of their entire career. In the case of Warner and Brady that is saying something. He consistently had run-ins with the veteran leadership and his solution was to get rid of them. If it happens occasionally you can say it happens. But it happened over and over again. This meant we were constantly rebuilding. I know a DC is not the same as a HC but they still work with players. I also don’t like the fact that he has a reputation of not working very hard.
The JAG defense was definitiely better this year and the players did seem to play very hard something you could not always say.. The FO spent a considerable amount of money bringing Posluszney, Landry, Lowery and Coleman and the pass rush became so-so, the secondary improved at least until all our CBs went on IR and the run defense was much improved. In JAX, the DC, Mel Tucker, gets most of the credit which is probably not totally fair to Del Rio. The first question most people asked when Del Rio was fired was who the next HC would be. The second question was: Can we keep Tucker as DC? Fans were overjoyed when the team retained Tucker.
Maybe Del Rio will learn from the JAG experience and take his extensive defense knowledge and help a team. Maybe a DC doesn’t have to work as hard and does not have control over player development , hiring or firing. Everyone deserve another chance I just want Del Rio’s to be with a different team.
So? Mike Nolan's defenses weren't as good when he was HC compared to when he was a DC. Dom Capers as well.
How about Steve Spagnuolo? Totally different ball games.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
Ok but when he only had to focus on the defense (Carolina) he turned one of the worst units into one of the best.
Since that would be his only job I"m not worried in the slightest.
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by BroncoMath101 on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
You just proved our point
his actions and decisions as HC were bad. EFX would run the actions and decisons parts of the football team, while the D playcalling would be his only focus, with input from Fox
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GM Gene Smith is responsible for players selected, so how does that affect Jack Del Rio's abilities?
A head coach is only as good as his superiors making the decisions over him…
Win, lose or draw, we are the Denver Broncos! 13-3 Baby!!! Until we ain't!
JAG Fans are not happy with Smith either. He was probably saved by the FAs he brought in this year.
However, getting rid of the veterans, Stroud ( which made Henderson so mad that he had to be traded too) , Peterson, Spicer, Joe Z, and Fred Taylor are on Del Rio. Del Rio also went through multiple coordinators and has a reputation of throwing his assistants under the bus. I am not saying anything that has not been argued about endlessly in Jacksonville.
Remember that it has been nine years since Del Rio was a DC and not the head guy. That is a long time. It could be that he will be happy to go back to not having HC responsibilities since multiple sources have reported the he was not the hardest working member of the JAG staff.
Don't forget Foxy is a defensive HC
Losing Allen to the Raiders is worse than just losing Allen. Del Rio would be a great move and a huge upgrade at DC. IMO.
It's like the movie Angels in the Outfield.... but this time it's Broncos in the Endzone
I had to read that twice to make sure I comprehended
and yes, you are accurate, it is a “great opportunity,” so they say, but why do you want to defile yourself by joining those tools. Say Adios to winning Allen
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Scared of losing Del Rio already?
Look if a first year DC can get a HC job the following year, than any coordinator can be lost. I hear people are scared that if we go with Jack, that we’ll lose him shortly after. After seeing DA walk away this offseason, it doesn’t really matter who you bring in as a coordinator. If they earn the promotion(which I don’t think DA has done), then they’ll get their shot. No matter if they’ve been a HC before. Can’t be scared to give a proven guy an opportunity because you might lose him in a year or two. I say bring him in. It might actually be better than having DA coaching in Denver next year.
Von Miller and Dumervil are basically racing to see who's first to the QB...Love this feeling!!!
My biggest fear is that Dennis Allen hires Del Rio to be DC in Oakland. Del Rio is known to be a lifelong raider fan.
We have to grab him before DA gets any ideas! :). Plus I think he is the best DC option out there and actually an improvement over DA.
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