The down fall of a once great franchise!

Oaklands 2012 draft
1st Round —> Cincy for Palmer
2nd Round —> Pats for picks in 2011
3rd Round
4th Round —> Wash for Campbell
5th Round
6th Round
7th Round —> Seattle for aaron curry

That’s terrible.

but don’t forget they forfiet round 3 for Terrelle Pryor.

No doubt in my mind he will. In the NFL, coaches are hired to be fired someday. Very few coaches get too stay in one place for their whole career and then leave on their own terms. It will be a good learning experience for him, one that will serve him well in his next coaching stop. Maybe as HC of the Broncos someday, determined to get revenge on the Raiders twice a year for firing him! He is also not alone, he has a new GM in Oakland who if he lives up to people’s expectations of him, will provide him with what he needs to be successful.

I have no idea what Allen was thinking. I think he should have waited another year or two to get experience and wait for a team that has a future. As much as I think Allen has what it takes to succeed, I doubt it’ll be in Oakland.

You are absolutely right. Every coach seeks a HC job, but Oakland!? Can he even remember Shanny with the LA Raiders? The history speaks for itself, and no CHANGEs are seen there…

1) Why in the world is new GM Reggie Mackenzie in Mobile Alabama watching prospects he will never get since the tRaiders only have one pick in the latter part of the draft?

2) Yesterday Mackenzie said he had important questions to ask Allen before he would make his decision? What questions might that be? I had to laugh when I read that statement…One question might be…Dennis would you be willing to visit the Bay Area prisons to give inspirational speeches, since most of our fanbase comes from there? I couldn’t get past that one, so I’ll let y’all form your own opinion of what questions he wanted Allen to answer…

3) Since they only have 1 draft pick this year I think they will be heavy in the free agent market. There will be lots of deals with teams and players. IMO I think I would cut ties with Carson Palmer and move forward with Jason Campbell.

4) And the big question…Dennis will you be a yes man, because you know I’m smarter than you are and I will be making all the team decisions?

5) Go tRaiders…Keep on making me happy baby!

2000, 2001 and 2002, the Raiders have done nothing remarkable since the early 90s, I appreciate your commentary though, exemplary!

I have no idea what to think of Allen going to Oakland, only that just about any coordinator would love a shot at a HC position and if you are going to rag on Allen for taking this job you’ve got to reserve a little in the tank for McCoy, who was also ready to jump ship ASAP.

As to the Raiders, their biggest problem is that they have zero draft next year and they’ve already begun dipping into their 2013 draft. The organization is going to be fighting to move to LA (probably with Jacksonville) and Allen is going to get one or two years to take a decent team and try and win in a weak division.

I’m not Carson Palmer fan, but he isn’t a terrible QB and while the Raiders spent way too much on him, they are a better team for it over Jason Campbell. Don’t get too cocky. The Raiders are about 50 fewer penalties away from a 9 or 10 win season.

it would be a huge turnaround there already. I knew once Al was gone we would no longer be in the clear with them self destructing. It is a relief though that they don’t have much of a draft this year.

I don’t question Allen’s choice to coach those players. But the franchise has a horrible history of disloyalty.

First they aren’t going to let him coach how he wants to. They will handcuff him from the beginning (which is ok in some instances, McD should have had some cuffs) but then they will also use him as a scapegoat as soon as they get bored with him.

I’m happy for Dennis Allen. Can’t be a hater.

First smart thing Oakland has done in a long time.

No matter how you look at it, it is all water under the bridge now. Allen made his bed and now he can sleep in it. I can’t blame him for wanting to improve his position in life; all of us would have done the same in our professional lives. I thank Allen for the season he gave us and look forward to the Broncos showing him what a silly choice he made twice in 2012 and beyond if it happens to last.

The Raiders have talent, but they are not really a team. Where they are at right now, I would not be suprised to see some of that talent headed elsewhere so they can have some semblence of a draft this season. They could be in deep trouble in the not too distant future if they don’t start to rebuild now.

Worst part of it is that everyone on here agrees. Look, I know we are rival teams, but who writes this kind of article just because we hired someone from your staff. I mean a lot of you were critizizing Campbell before we got Palmer, he wasnt playing well, actually just managing games. With McFadden back there, it isnt that much of a problem. He had the same mediocre stats he has been having since day 1. I like him, but thats not a SB calibier QB. Palmer can have a HUGE day or a horrible day, he needs consistency. It impresses me how much football knowledge a lot of peopel lack, who expects a QB to play perfectly who comes in in a complex offense and plays 4 days after he gets to the city? You do know this isnt Madden>?? Anyone with slight football knowledge was expecting bad play from him the first couple of times…You dont have any facts straight. In every of his 5 losses, the D allowed this amount of points respectively: 38 (to you), 46, 34, 28, 38. That is horrible for the D, and hard for any offense to overcome unless you are NE or GB. He did throw a lot of picks, didnt you really expect that?? 10 of his 16 came in his first 3 games, that was expected, he lit it up throwing for more than 2700 yards in 9 games for gods sake. Thats all with Palmer, dont underestimate him just because of bias, you heard it here first. Before I answer all of these ’’facts’’ I want to say something to almost every fan in here. You are just spitting wrong statements all over this site. Age catching up on us?? Palmer, Carlisle, Seymour and Sheppard are the only starters above 28….ok, here we go.
1. There is no QB controversy, just so you know, the key words McKenzie used were, finding someone who will ‘’PUS HIM’’ He made it clear he is the starter going into training camp, pretty much what is going on with Tebow. Campbell we all know is gone, no controversy.
2. Biased, bitter, and nonsense, deny it all you want but this is true.
3. If he is smart he keeps Al Saunders, the OC, he has his sytem in place and has worked very well, he doesnt HAVE to implement an offensive system, and yes, he has implemented a defensive system, he changed you 3-4 to a 4-3 and did it very well without an offseason.
4.For all of you who think we have 2 or even 1 draft pick, wrong. Nnamdi was too expensive of a loss, we get a 3rd rounder, Miller is a 4th rounder, those are comp picks we WILL get. We have the 3rd, 4th (comp picks), 5th and 7th rounds. Plus you can always trade a player for another pick. Seeing it this way. Pryor would be in the Luck, RGIII talks if he hadnt gotten in trouble. Getting him for a 3rd rounder is a steal if he meets the expectations he would have had.
5.Ok, in this one you didnt even think of what you were writing, as mcuh as I love Al he was the one getting rid of coaches, we have a GM, he knows that he needs to bring in the right guy because this is the first impression, so he cant use excuses, this is an important hire. He does care about who he chooses and will back him for at least 4 years, which is the contract that he signed. Finally the team, you say we cant play as a team and have no discipline, thats right, on the D. The offense is a tight group and played their best, the D effed up games. They didnt trust each other and lacked discipline. Well, that is what everyone says as a fact of Allen, he is a discipline guy. If the Raiders stop beating themselves it would be huge improvement, Now that Hue is gone you can say he was a reason of success, he lost the locker room and was a big reason of the team not playing like one. I liked him as OC but didnt work out as HC. This post isnt a very smart one, what IF, the Raiders actually do well next year and win the division, what would you feel about this post?? The only thing you can hope for is if no one remembers this. But as mcuh as I admit the Broncos look like a good team, you are underestimating this Raider team in a very risky way, just liek us Raider fans though of your team at the start of the year, losing the 2nd game BROKE our hearts, dont let that happen to you and take every rival seriously, think about the bias and bitterness of the post before just talking sooo mcuh smack on a topic that shouldnt create this much hype. This is basically a Raider hating post. Oh and finally, just so your uninformed brain knows, Al Davis died before the Palmer trade, so ‘’poor dying Al’’ didnt give his opinion, Im excited about the future with a new GM coming form a great organization, and I know I will get a lot of hate after I post this comment, but you should really consider how pathetic a post like this can get. Peace and good luck in the offseason.

We ARE Raider Haters. It’s what we do. We know Al wasn’t part of the Palmer trade and that’s why we figured we still had nothing to worry about. A 1st and a 2nd for him. Really? You can’t feel good about that. Giving picks for Campbell and then let him walk? Pryor? I’m sure the author will feel just fine IF you do well next year. The Raiders finally did something good to improve the team by stealing our DC away. That sucks. We’ll get over it though. You should too. Here’s a hint. If you want love, stay by people who love you.

I’m having difficulty remembering him. Maybe that has something to do with the “black hole” (a collapsed star with gravity so strong that even thought can’t escape) he is being sucked into?

Whatevs. I didn’t have any interest in talking about Hue Jackson last year and I believe, after this post, that I won’t be talking about Allen ever again.

;o)

I don’t hold in against Allen for taking the job. HC jobs don’t come every day – his chance to jump into the job. If things come together just right, it’s great for him – and at worst he gets his choice of DC jobs in a year or two. It’s up to the team hiring him to consider if he is qualified enough – and now he’s at the top, HC in the NFL. Not too bad for somebody only a year removed from being a position coach.
Can he handle it? Del Rio was only DC 1 yr before taking the Jax job, and he did alright there. So time will tell – it’s hard to say so far.

Now, I found it a fairly stupid move for the Raiders – but that’s just fine with me. They should have kept Hue – and actually they should have kept Cable before that. But continued frantic changes like these keep them below .500 most years – so I’m happy they signed him. Hard to lose another DC for yet another year in a row – but Del Rio should be an upgrade anyway.
We get better, the Raiders get worse – it’s a good day in Bronco land.