It's the most wonderful time of the year!
It is that time of year again folks! The extreme anticipation of free agency in less than a month, and the draft soon after that. My offseason ideas have been floating around in my brain every day, so it's time to vent again. Be my psychiatrist after the jump.
Free Agency
*Re-sign:
Marcus Thomas
Mario Haggans
All of these players are key cogs to the machine and would come cheap, except for maybe Bunkley, who is well deserved of a pay raise.
*Sign:
Steve Smith
Smith is a perennial 100 catch talent, and more importantly, he is the great possession receiver we need. He's only two years removed from a 100 rec 1200 yd campaign, and was in the midst of another pro bowl season when he suffered a season ending injury. However, Coughlin still saw enough in him to be pissed that he spurred the Giants during contract negotiations for the Eagles. After a warm up year with the Eagles to get his legs back under him, the Broncos should go ahead and acquire the 26 year old Smith and stick him in the slot position where he thrived in New York.
I'm sure Mincey would love to reunite with the coach who led him to individual success, especially in Denver, where he'd become part of an up-and-coming playoff contender. Mincey, 28, doesn't have much wear and tear in him since the last two seasons were the only ones where he got considerable playing time. He racked up 13 sacks in said seasons, and I'm sure all of us here at MHR would like one of our coaches to actually get their rising star at DE, instead of having the Charles Johnson teaser all over again. Mincey is good enough in both run defense and pass rushing to relegate Ayers to rotational duties, which provides our front 7 with much needed depth.
Cheap starting MIKE. He'll likely be very open to reuniting with his former coach, especially in a place where he can log a good amount of playing time. A great tackler, as Mr. Fox always emphasizes when he selects his defensive players, and would be a major upgrade over Mays. Comes from the Linebacker Factory, and would either establish a rock solid rotation with Irving (if he pans out), or would become our inside backer for the future.
Arguably the best run defending corner in the league, and also very good in coverage, we get this above average #2 CB cheap. Coming off a season ending injury, and with the Giants secondary already intact (Webster, Amukamara, Ross), Thomas is likely the odd man out. Our gain. Thomas has had an entire year to recover and is ready to play. 2009: 85 tackles, 1 sack, 13 PDef, 5 int; 2010: 101 tackles, 1 sack, 21 PDef, 5 int. I'd like the Broncos to be the recipient of that kind of production in 2012 and beyond as our #2 man.
As consistent as you can get at the safety position. An extremely sound tackler; if Oakland lets him go (which their salary cap hints that they will), Fox should, at the very least, offer him a contract. Great speed that is utilized in blitzes. Branch struggles a bit in man coverage, but excels in zone. I'd love to see him in blue and orange.
Draft
**Chain effect trade: Rams trade 2nd overall pick to Browns for #4, #37, and #68. Rams, in turn, trade their own 2nd and 3rd rounders (33rd and 66th) to the Broncos for the 25th pick. St. Louis then has 2 first rounders and 1 pick in every other round. This is just pure speculation. To me, it seems like there would be an abundance of good talent that the Rams could select at 25, that they couldn't 8 picks later (Mercilus, Cordy Glenn, Mike Adams, Cox, Floyd, Konz, Dennard, etc).
2nd round (via St. Louis): Lamar Miller (RB), Miami, 5'11 212
My favorite back in the entire draft, especially because of where we would be picking him. He has top notch speed, can run the 40 anywhere between 4.3-4.4; Miller was productive every year in college, even as a backup his freshman year. A durable, bellcow back who would not only be the perfect complement to McGahee this year, but also our franchise runner for the forseeable future. The few flaws he has include needing to be more patient when running inside. He needs to learn to be content with positive gains. He also needs to improve his blocking and run with a lower center of gravity. However, these are all things that can be coached. He is a homerun threat and a good receiver out of the backfield
2nd round: Mike Martin (DT), Michigan, 6'1 307
After a tremendous week at the Senior Bowl, Martin had scouts and MHR raving. He has great ability to penetrate against one-on-one blocks, and would be a dominant pass rushing force as our 3-technique. Has a good bull rush, but his "knock out" move is the swim move (as seen above). Martin is also a good run defender. A great hustler against the run, uses good short area quickness to prevent the back from escaping. Has a great motor, and rarely goes to the ground, using his balance attained from his high school wrestling days. No problems off the field. Great leader.
3rd round (via St. Louis): Trumaine Johnson (CB), Montana, 6'2 204
"Tru" Johnson has masterful playmaking ability and ball hawking skills, as evident from his multiple All-American awards. Johnson's measurables are what really makes him an intriguing pick, considering his 6'2 frame allows him to match up with almost every receiver in the NFL. Has good speed, with the possibility of running a sub 4.5 40. Johnson has the potential to become a #1 corner in the NFL; draws comparisons to Ike Taylor, as a great press coverage DB.
3rd round: Brandon Brooks (OG), Miami (Ohio), 6'5 353
I know this isn't the sexy pick with so many pass rushers, tackling machines, productive rushers, and dynamic receivers still on board, but it's the right pick. I feel like there isn't much help available, depth wise or starting material (at least that we can afford), in this year's o-line free agency class, so Brooks helps us build inside the trenches. He is a player who helped himself a lot at the East-West Shrine game. Brooks possesses a physically imposing frame and huge size that he handles well. Has good, natural strength and raw power with the ability to be a mauler in the run game (music to John Fox's ears). He is a developmental guard prospect with high upside, but we're not looking for an instant fix right now. That being said, Brooks could push Beadles for the starting job, and would also be insurance for Kuper. He could turn into a great future cog on our line.
4th round: Marvin McNutt (WR), Iowa, 6'3 216
McNutt is a raw receiver prospect due to the fact that he was recruited to play quarterback. Luckily, that means he has great size. He lacks a dynamic dimension, but is a good possession receiver, and his size and strength make him a viable deep threat. He has soft hands and is a savvy route runner. At Senior Bowl practices, he was consistently open despite aggressive coverage from DBs. McNutt has tremendous acrobatic ability and hand-eye coordination, making circus catches look easy. He doesn't drop many balls, and uses his size to play the ball at its highest point. He showed steady progression and improved every year at the position, and should continue to do the same here in Denver.
5th round (via St. Louis): Emmanuel Acho (OLB), Texas, 6'1 235
OLB depth is a must, specifically behind DJ. So who better to fill the need with than the brother of current Arizona Cardinals pass rush specialist, Sam Acho? Emmanuel is a playmaker in his own right, being a tackling machine and a decent pass rusher. Last season he piled up 116 tackles, 18 of them for loss, 14 QB hurries, and 2 sacks.
5th round: BJ Coleman (QB), Chattanooga, 6'3 235
We all know that until Tebow establishes himself as a true passer with the luxury of being able to run, Elway's mission is to find his man. Tebow might have won Elway over for the short term, but until the aforementioned goal is completed, the Teebs will always be a guy the front office is looking to replace. With that in mind, this selection is perfect. Coleman is the exact type of QB prospect Elway is looking for, one he can mold into his prototypical passer. He showed tremendous upside at the East-West Shrine game, displaying his great ability to drive passes downfield. He also proved to be very coachable during practices. He displayed a rocket arm and smooth mobility and is known for being a great teammate and leader.
7th round: Shawn Loiseau (ILB), Merrimack, 6'0 241
Since his standout performance at the East-West Shrine game, the small school, Division II product has opened the eyes of scouts around the NFL. His intensity is off the charts and he gives full effort on every down. He improved his stats every year at Merrimack, even displaying good ability to rush up the middle. After great performances in the practices, big time scouts like Mike Mayock and Todd McShay (yuck), couldn't stop raving about him. This from nfldraftscout.com: "He has average size, length and athleticism, but makes up for his shortcomings with instincts and overall toughness. Loiseau fills the run lanes hard and won't shy from contact, taking on blocks and using his eyes effectively. He should be a special teams standout at worst and will make it tough for pro coaches to cut him."
Well that's this week's mock! I hope you enjoyed the read, and found my ideas refreshing. Discuss all you'd like in the comments. GO BRONCOS!!!
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You’d resign dime a dozen players like Jason Hunter, Hoch, Haggen, Fells, Chris Clark and Spencer Larsen, but not Woodyard?
If I were running the show, I’d let all those guys test the open market (wouldn’t make any upfront effort to resign) except Woodyard.
I love your trade down. hope that works. You think St Louis wants three 1st round picks? For whom?
Like your draft and UFA signings, but Dan Conner seems to live on rep more here than elsewhere. The Carolina folks seem to have no trouble seeing him leave and their D was dog crap last year.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Yes, and it seems that almost everyone who does mocks would too.
I wouldn’t re-sign them all to be starters, in fact, most are quality backups, just like Woodyard would be. But the difference between those “dime a dozen” players and Wood, is that Wood WANTS TO START. The fact of the matter is, it doesn’t look like EFX is gonna trade DJ, and Woodyard has no intention of being a career backup. Carolina folk seem to have no trouble seeing him leave because they have the 2nd best ILB in the league, in Jon Beason. Forgot about him? Connor doesn’t want to be a career backup either.
by broncos7life on Feb 13, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
Fiesty. You wouldn’t resign them to be starters? But you’d have to pay them all vet minimums to be backups. That is not the way the NFL does business.
Backups are supposed to be low paid rookies. If Denver started a bunch of young inexpensive players and had vets as more expensive backups, we’d be doing things in a way no other team conducts business in the NFL.
Woodyard seems to find the field plenty when I watch. He may be DJs backup, but he plays more than Joe Mays (a starter). He is valuable to what Denver does on D in the passing game.
There is no reason to keep Hunter or Haggen. They are both completely replaceable by younger players with more upside (even though Haggen plays one game per year like he is Lawrence Taylor). You could make a case to keep Larson and Fells. Bunkley, Prater, Britton and M Thomas should be resign priorities, as should Woodyard.
Beason has been hurt an awful lot the last two years. So Connor played plenty and didn’t distinguish himself. Conner lives more on that Penn St rep than skill (LB and rape U). I’d much rather go after Loftin of Atlanta.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Even when you put it that way,
I wouldn’t take any of them out except Hoch and Clark. If that’s the way it works, then why does every mock have about 8 players we’re re-signing? I’ve never seen this type of comment on any of them. They are completely replaceable, but that’s a waste of draft picks. Something we have a limited amount of. Unless you’re saying you wanna let these dime a dozen players go just to sign younger dime a dozen players. Trust me, I would want to go after someone like Lofton or D’quell Jackson too, but what’s the reality of their teams letting them go. You, and everyone else says it’s so hard to find a franchise Mike like Al Wilson, so why would they let them go?
by broncos7life on Feb 14, 2012 8:45 AM MST up reply actions
Because fans lack imagination or an understanding of the salary cap as well as cold hard cash considerations. It isn’t cheap resigning vets. It is cheap signing rookies and young players.
Roster turnover is much higher in the NFL than fan mocks suggest. And when was the last time Denver resigned the vast majority of their UFAs?
Bowlen would much rather let dime a dozen guys like Hunter and Haggen go by signing dime a dozen younger guys to much cheaper contracts (and that have upside). Or just give shots to guys like Irving, Mohammad, Squid, Willis, Green, J Thomas and such.
Normally you’d be right about studs like Lofton and Jackson, but the rushed 2011 UFA period and lockout have created a glut of UFAs for 2012 and guys will slip thru the cracks because there are simply too many UFA and not enough franchise tags.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Lofton>Connor X2
Cutting young guys with potential and signing FAs to replace them is not gonna happen.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
I’m trying to say to Broncos7 that this off-season would be a good year for Denver to get aggressive with some good players. The supply exceeds the demand/$$ available.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
True McG.
Also though we need to remember that to many high end FAs with a long term contracts will limit our ability to re-sign all our young guys to future contracts in the next few years.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
That is also true.
But as for being aggressive at MLB, I’m not ready to do that just yet. Connor would be nice, if cheap, but you say that’s unlikely. So find another option or give Irving his chance. I think he deserves one…
by broncos7life on Feb 14, 2012 9:20 AM MST up reply actions
lets be blunt
We don’t have that many young guys we need to resign.
Ayers and Moreno are not core players.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
No not yet.
I agree Ayers and Moreno are not a concern. I do want Clady extended. After him the closest thing to a concern would be Decker for 2014. So in other words no concerns you are right.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
Their D was bad because of injuries. The reason they don’t care if he leaves us because the Panthers will get both Jon Beason and Thomas Davis back from injury. If we had either of them, we wouldn’t want Conner either.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 13, 2012 2:02 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
If we had either of them, we wouldn’t want Conner either.
Exactly. Connor is a low end starter that is replacable by top end players like Beason (often hurt) and middle of the road players like Thomas Davis.
Connor is the Zane Beadles of MLBs.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
And what I’m saying is I hope Irving is that top end player. We don’t wanna commit to someone else after one year do we? We apennines a damn 3rd round pick on him. Sign Connor cheap for competition and the possibility that they both live up to their potential. You undermine Fox’s ability to draft linebackers.
by broncos7life on Feb 14, 2012 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
If Conner comes cheap and/or on a short term deal, I’ll be pretty surprised. I’m all for Denver signing anyone cheap/short term that can play some ball. It’s just that their agents and other teams tend to drive up the price as well as the term of those contracts.
If we are not competing for Dan Conner, I’m all for going after him. But I don’t see that happening. I think his rep will see him get a few other bidders, driving up price and contract term. When that happens, I hope we bow out and go after a better player if we are going to have to spend real $$$.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
You think so?
He’s definitely not worth that. If we have to shell out the big bucks to get him, I’d rather just name Irving the starter right off the bat.
by broncos7life on Feb 14, 2012 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
There you go.
Mays is a small step down from Connor. He would be more reasonable to re-sign than getting Connor. Hopefully it’s just as a backup anyway. If Irving isn’t ready I say put DJ at Mike.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
Can Irving even play? That’s a key question. Or did we just throw that pick in the trash. Happens every draft to every team.
He may have been our wasted pick. Or Moore, or both. Hope not.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
I certainly hope teams don't just throw 2nd or 3rd round picks in the trash...
by broncos7life on Feb 14, 2012 3:56 PM MST up reply actions
Beadles and Walton
As I’m not O-line expert, I can’t say with conviction. But I see a lot of posters just assume that Walton and Beadles form the core of a Bronco O-line that many believe will be set in stone for the next 5 years.
I wonder if our staff and scouts feel the same way. I often wonder if Xanders and Co see core players in Walton and Beadles or guys that need to be replaced?
You drafted an OG pretty high, which would make me think you are looking at replacing Beadles in the lineup. If that is the case, you can definitely let Hoch walk in UFA since Beadles becomes your top backup O-linemen. Or Ryan Harris.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Most of the posts I see don't assume that at all.
A majority of them, including comments, call for competition for Beadles. O-line depth is huge, so it wouldn’t hurt keeping Hoch too.
by broncos7life on Feb 13, 2012 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
Realisticly,
The Broncos are only likely to keep a total of 7-8 OL on the roster. Bringing another lineman in, either through the draft or FA means somebody has got to go. By most accounts, Walton is a weaker link than Beadles. I think if they do bring new blood in, it would be at center.
Brooks at 353 is a monster. Playing in a zone blocking scheme at a Mile High could make those extra lbs. a liability. We need olineman that are a little smaller and agile in this scheme.
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
there are a lot of websites saying that Beadles/Walton were some of the worst OL in football
WalterFootball even has Guard as our top need.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
I don't know how much stock you can really put into those rankings
Magazu places a lot of emphasis on the line playing as a unit. The stat sites go too far into grading individual position performances, IMO and overlook the performance of the unit as a whole. That flys in the face of Magazu’s philosophy. You don’t lead the league in rushing yards with consistent poor line play unless you have Barry Sanders toting the rock for you. Walton and Beadles are still young. Magazu is a great offensive line coach, he’s going to get everything he can out of those guys. An actual offseason with some continuity is going to help them. They probably aren’t the best Oline in football like Phil Simms once proclaimed, but they are getting the job done and will continue to get better. It’s still too early to write off Beadles and Walton, but they need to continue to improve.
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
by CH74 on Feb 13, 2012 1:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
depending on who you reference you either reach you peak in terms of strength and endurance between 25-27 years of age
Meaning that any player, particularly an OL player who relies heavily on strength and endurance, is going to get better with time and experience. Beadles is 25. Walton is 24.
Win the individual battles at the LOS - all else flows from that.
by DE_BroncoFan on Feb 14, 2012 6:23 AM MST up reply actions
They're still growing boys!
They both heading into their 3rd year and there are rookies coming out older than those two.
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
I agree with you both
I do not agree with WalterFootball and the other sites I’ve seen blast Beadles and Walton. They aren’t superstars like the Pouncey’s… by any means… but they’re tough, smart, and young, and they will get better. I totally agree, Magazu is one helluva coach.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Feb 14, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
O-line depth isn’t huge. Look at most NFL teams. Very few have O-line depth.
But you did not assume Beadles would be the starter. In fact, you pretty much replaced him with a 3rd round pick. I like where you head is at on that call.
I’d be much happier if Beadles (a high 2nd round pick – yuck) were our 6th O-linemen. And if Ryan Harris is our 6th O-linemen, I’d be happy if we traded Zane for a mid round draft pick.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
I love everything about FA and the draft except...
Brooks OG – I love the position just not sure about the player. Playing at 350 in Mile High conditions could very well destroy this guy.
Marvin McNutt. I am torn here. I like the idea of drafting another WR but I’m also not sure about the player here. I’d rather draft a fast deep threat rather than another possession receiver which is what McNutt would be. I like his size just not sure he really fits since we have Decker and you are bringing in Smith. I guess he could back up Decker which is cool but if DT goes down who do we have to replace him as a deep threat?
Even still I would be ecstatic if this played out.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
I have to echo your sentiments here, BM101
McNutt seems a little redundant after picking up Smith, especially when we already have Decker on the roster. I think the Broncos need some diversity in the receiver corps. A speedy, stretch the field type receiver would be more valuable.
"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe
agreed fellas
we need a WR to do what Eddie Royal was supposed to do. A diverse, speedy guy who can run some trick plays, gain some YAC, and be a deep threat.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Thanks
As for Brooks’ weight, Orlando Franklin is 330. I’m sure a professional athlete can lose at least 15 pounds. And I agree about McNutt. Other guys I was thinking about we’re TY Hilton or TJ Graham
TJ Graham!
This would be awesome! Graham is a play maker.
by NCbroncosFAN on Feb 13, 2012 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
Tyvon Branch
As much as I would like to see him in blue and orange next year it just won’t happen .The raiders are short on cap space and may not be able to afford him . They also don’t have very many draft picks . They will slap the franchise tag on him and then trade him . The safety position is week in the draft and some team will make a deal for him but I don’t see Denver trading with the raiders.
by ultraclassic04 on Feb 13, 2012 11:53 AM MST reply actions
You think them risking paying him the franchise tag money just so they can try to trade him is more likely than letting him go?
Teams know they have no cap space, and if they follow your route, the Raiders will have to play ball the other teams’ way. Likely won’t get anything higher than a 5th round pick, if anything. If they can’t trade him for something, they’re stuck having to pay him the same amount as the top safety’s salary over the past 5 years.
by broncos7life on Feb 13, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
Love the draft except for Brooks.
The FAs from the other teams though are a reach. We won’t add that many in FA. We will keep our own though if they will stay reasonably priced.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
Miller won't be there in the second round. He'll be gone in the first
by tiderfootball09 on Feb 13, 2012 12:17 PM MST reply actions
Really?
Because he has a projected round of 2nd. And tell that to 3 of the 4 CBS draft analysts, and all 4 nfl.com draft analysts. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a good chance to be taken in the first round, but he could very well be available with the 1st pick of the second round. This is pure speculation and my beliefs, but you’re no fortune teller either.
by broncos7life on Feb 13, 2012 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
I'm with Tider.
I don’t believe Lamar Miller will be around when we pick at 25. Bummer.
There's no way Khloe's a Kardashian. No frickin' way.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 14, 2012 6:26 AM MST up reply actions
True man.... it could go either way
but RB is one of those positions we see fall every single year. Heck, even Trent Richardson could be looking at a team picking him around pick 20 or so. Knowshon Moreno and CJ Spiller are making teams wary of drafting RB’s high. I believe that a very good RB (Miller or not) will be available in the 2nd round.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Very very true.
Maybe we can sit tight an trade up for him if we have to? I’m a fan of gaining picks though, not trading them away. We all know how that worked out for Oakland. However, I’m also a fan of not “settling” for other players.
by broncos7life on Feb 13, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
I'm with ya bro
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
by PaleHorse78 on Feb 14, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
I really like this mock offseason
the only problems I have is why draft McNutt when we’d already be bringing in Steve Smith? I’m in agreement with most here that we need to be adding some speed to our offense. Decker, Smith, and McNutt – too many guys who bring the same thing to the table.
I also don’t think Jeremy Mincey is any better than Ayers… not one bit actually. Last year was Ayers first in the new defense…. with a training camp next year, he can easily match Jeremy Mincey’s production (which isn’t much).
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Yes I realized my mistake.
I really want Smith, so I’ll probably be changing McNutt to someone like TY Hilton. Mincey: 57 tackles, 8 sacks, 4FF, 1 int and he’s just getting started; Ayers: 39 tackles 3 sacks 1 FF. I don’t think that production “isn’t much”
by broncos7life on Feb 13, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
I highly doubt Ayers will have an 8 sack season. I hope I am wrong but Mincey IMO is better than Ayers.
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
by BroncoMath101 on Feb 13, 2012 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
Me likey.
There's no way Khloe's a Kardashian. No frickin' way.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 13, 2012 5:14 PM MST reply actions
If this happened the way you said, we will be the darlings of the AFC West! Wow...
I think drafting a Guard is the 5th is a good idea and I would let Hochstein walk or re-sign at minimum…Manny Ramirez and Tony Hills can walk too…I like Chris Clark as the 4th OT…He did play TE on some plays as a blocker…
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What's everyone's obsession with Dan Connor?
He’s a sure tackler… but what else? He’s a liability in coverage and an average athlete at the position, at best. Don’t we want a true upgrade at the position? I’d much rather have Irving play granted he’s mentally ready.
Speaking of being ready, T. Thomas is coming off an ACL injury so I would proceed with caution. I like the potential of having him, if he’s at full strength. He was really coming into his own before the ACL.
NYG are really high on Thomas.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
See but that's just it,
Irving was one of the best ILB prospects in that draft, so why get a “true” upgrade after just one year, and a year where he likely was recovering from the car accident injuries fully. Connor would be cheap, and would not be the type of statement signing that says we have given up on Irving. A two year contract would be nice, and if he proves to be productive, then we extend him. If he doesn’t, Irving will have taken the job, and it’s bye bye Connor. Fox has seen him first hand, drafted him, coached him, etc. if he signs him, then we know he must be at least somewhat good, since Fox is no slouch at selecting his backers.
Eveyone says Fox drafted him.
Wouldn’t it be funny if Fox doesn’t even like him.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
Connor slipped to the third round. He was projected to get drafted higher. Here is the pre-draft analysis from NFL.com
Pick Analysis: Connor has been compared to Dan Morgan and is a great value at this spot in the draft. He needs to work on his pass coverage and at his size could struggle to play on all the downs and distances. He had over 400 tackles in college, can call the defense and play strong-side or middle linebacker. One of the smartest players in the draft and had excellent production in college.
That doesn’t sound like the answer we are looking for and that was the read on him before he played a down in the NFL.
Win the individual battles at the LOS - all else flows from that.
by DE_BroncoFan on Feb 14, 2012 6:39 AM MST up reply actions
Completely different IMO.
Fox always wants his veteran QB. Delhomme and Orton. He only turns to the young uns when those veterans prove incapable of leading the team to wins.The FO probably forced the Clausen pick
by broncos7life on Feb 14, 2012 3:54 PM MST up reply actions

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