Did The Broncos Get Lucky? A Discussion Of The Broncos Wins in 2011
Han Solo: "I call it luck"
Obi-Wan: "In my experience there is no such thing as luck"
You could not start a post any better! Star Wars quotes for the win!
Last night in my downtime, I chatted with MHR's very own Kaptain Kirk about various things. Anything Broncos of course ends up coming down to a Tim Tebow discussion. That conversation ended up talking about which of the Broncos nine wins in 2011 were "lucky".
Luck is hard to define. It is out of the ordinary. It is not planned. It is hard to explain what it is. It is sort of like pornography in a way. It is hard to say what is and what is not but you know it when you see it.
How much of it did the Broncos have? That is an interesting topic for debate.
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
September 18th - vs Bengals - The Broncos had a large lead in this game. They lead 17-3 and 24-15 at points in the game but ended up winning 24-22. They never trailed in this game and it really became the emergence of Eric Decker as a feature receiver for the Broncos as he had two touchdowns. This was as clean as a win as they come. People did not think much of this win early on but it started to become a pretty big deal when we found that the Bengals are a pretty good team. Luck rating: 1/10
October 23rd - @ Dolphins - This was the game that started it all. It was Tim Tebow's first start of 2011 and the media was all over it. Why wouldn't they be? A college legend with lots of hype surrounding him for several reasons, good and bad, was starting and everyone had to see it. All the doubters seemed right for most of the game. Nothing was going right for the Broncos early in this game. Tim Tebow was struggling and even when something did go right, Matt Prater was missing kicks to keep the Broncos a 0 points. After a Broncos punt in the fourth quarter, things were looking pretty grim. Any chance of a comeback would have to come off a turnover or a really quick three and out. Fortunately, the Broncos forced Miami into a three yard three play series that only took :17 off the clock. Once the Broncos got the ball back it is like things just clicked. Tebow Time was officially on. Tebow took the Broncos 8 plays 80 yards ending it with a touchdown to Demaryius Thomas who was making his 2011 debut. A study about onside kicks shows that they are successful about 20% of the time when teams are expecting it. The Broncos were able to recover it allowing Tebow Time to continue. Late in the drive, Tebow put a long pass that Daniel Fells stretched out to pull in that was one of the best plays all year for the Broncos. The Broncos ended up tying it up and winning in overtime off a strip sack by DJ WIlliams and a Matt Prater 52 yard kick for the win. I would classify this win as lucky because of the onside kick recovery and the fact that we made some insane receptions. Luck Rating: 7/10
November 6th - @ Raiders - This game was interesting. We were getting Carson Palmer on his first start as a Raider. The week previous he threw three interceptions in one half and in this game he threw three in the game itself. However, Palmer also had some really nice touchdown throws including a beauty to Jacoby Ford. This game was the birth of the Broncos read option offense. They ran for 299 yards including Tebows 118 and McGahees 163. This game was total execution along with Raiders not being able to stop this offense. We had an Eddie Royal punt return, his first in a long time. This game was pure execution and the probably the Broncos only sure win of the year. EDIT: I also forgot to mention that Darren McFadden was missing due to injury in this game which helped a lot. Thanks to Topher Doll for the heads up.................... Luck Rating: 3/10..........New rating: 4/10
November 13th - @ Chiefs - Again the Broncos dominated on the ground running for around 250 yards. This was the game Tebow completed two passes for the win. This was the game the defense really started to make a name for itself. 4 sacks on Matt Cassel was the big factor. The Broncos scored on their opening drive literally not throwing the ball once. They capped it off with a Tim Tebow rushing touchdown. This game was a sleeper of two boring offenses that could not do anything until Tebow found Eric Decker for 56 yards to put the game away. Boring game but not much for luck here. Notably the Chiefs did not have Jamaal Charles (the Bronco killer) or Eric Berry but they went out early in the season so that wasn't something that worked out just for us. Luck Rating: 2/10
November 17th - vs Jets - This was the one everyone watched and will always be remembered. Neither team was getting anything done in this game. The Broncos came out on the first play with a nice long play to DT. They then ran down to the Jets side and went for it on fourth down and got nothing. Next drive they took it back down and kicked on 4th and inches for the lead. Mark Sanchez was having as much trouble the past few weeks as anyone throwing interceptions. He was not having a bad day that night though but the teams went into half 3-3. In the second half the Jets came out having no problems and scoring quickly for a 10-3 lead. Late in the third everything seemed to change for the Broncos. Mark Sanchez threw a pick six to Andre Goodman, who had been under a lot of attack from Broncos fans. This couldn't of come at a better time as the Broncos were doing nothing. Sanchez took the Jets down to the Broncos end for a field goal for a 13-10 lead. The defense kept the Broncos in this one getting after Sanchez all day and sacking him three times. I still remember the Von Miller hit from behind on Sanchez in slow motion. Broncos got the ball back at their own 4 yard line and then it happened. Tebow threw to Eddie Royal in the end zone who dodged a tackle that would have been a safety. Somehow Tebow was able to run his way multiple times for first downs running over Darrel Revis along the way. Then the magical play happened. Tim Tebow rolled out of the pocket and scrambled for 20 yards on his way to a Broncos win 17-13. Was there anything lucky in this game? Maybe the fact the LT was out but really, the defense bailed out an offense that could not get going. We played poor but there is a large difference between playing bad and being lucky. Luck Rating: 3/10
November 27th - @ Chargers - The Broncos got down in this game and had trouble stopping the running of Ryan Matthews. However, a late touchdown at the end of the half to Eric Decker from Tebow allowed us to crawl back down 10-7 at half. The defense was doing a good job however of keeping Rivers out of the endzone making them kick two field goals. The rushing game was good again as McGahee had over 100 yards again. Later in the third the Broncos were down 13-7 but the running game took them to kick one for a 13-10 deficit. The Chargers however took it down field but Novak missed a kick allowing the Broncos to stay in it. Late clutch play by the defense allowed the Chargers to stay at 13 including a clutch Von Miller sack. The Broncos tied it up late on a Prater field goal that was set up by a big Dante Rosario catch. The game went to overtime and after a long overtime period San Diego had a chance to win it. However, Novak missed again from outside of 50 and then then the Broncos took it down themselves and Prater kicked another game winner. We caught a break in this one with Novak having a bad day. Luck Rating: 5/10
December 4th - @ Vikings - This was a big test for the Broncos because everyone was saying they cannot win a high scoring game. Von Miller was not in this game due to a thumb injury. The defense was not the same without him. Luckily we were up against a rookie QB with no Adrian Peterson due to a knee injury. Mario Haggan had a pick 6 early that helped but Ponder still didn't have much trouble due to Percy Harvin's huge day. Broncos trailed 15-7 in the half. However in the second half, the Broncos really opened it up and Tebow continued to find Demaryius Thomas for big plays and two touchdowns. After another Harvin touchdown, McGahee had a long run and Tebow converted the two point conversion to tie it at 29. However, the Vikings continued to march down the field however and Longwell put the VIkings up 3 with 3 minutes to go. The Broncos continued to make plays though and tied it. Ponder late threw a pick and Andre Goodman picked off Ponder on a bad throw for a Prater kick for the win. Is this lucky? It is lucky that another good player went down (Peterson) but the pick was an opportune play. The Broncos earned this win by making big plays on a day the defense was not good. Luck Factor: 4/10
December 11th - vs Bears - This game was the ultimate "How the bleep did that happen?" game. Again, luckily Matt Forte was hurt so we did not have to worry about him. This was also supposed to be the return of Jay Cutler but he too was hurt. The Broncos did nothing on offense all day and the stat makers were bringing up that the Broncos have never been shutout at home. It was looking that way. The bears had a chance to ice the game by putting together a drive but went three and out. Tebow with 4 minutes left somehow rallied the Broncos for 63 yards thanks to a 19 yard catch by Matthew Willis and a touchdown catch by DT. Also, it happened before the 2 minute warning. However, the Broncos had no timeouts making things pretty much impossible. They would have had to get down field for a field goal in only 20 seconds because Marion Barber would be able to take the clock down. However, a bone headed play by Barber made him run out of bounds stopping the clock. As Lloyd Christmas would say, "So you are saying there is a chance?" Tebow made some key passes and a huge catch by DT where he climbed the ladder to pull one down. Prater kicked a 59 yard field goal to tie it. WHAT! In overtime, it looked like all was lost when Barber had day light but just before he got to it Elvis Dumervil stripped him and the Broncos had life. Tebow moved the Broncos enough that Matt Prater could kick a winner again. How this happened I still do not know. I mean we sacked Hanie four times but we did nothing on offense until that rally. Plus those players missing was a big bonus. Luck Factor: 10/10
January 8th - vs Steelers - The Broncos made it into the playoffs but it was going to be tough. The great Pittsburgh Steelers were in town and things were not going to be easy. Big Ben was nursing a sore ankle but it was healing and he should have been okay to go. However, the Broncos got after him and re-injured the ankle making it tough for him to move which is what he does best. The Broncos played bend not break defense forcing field goals. Tebow hit two straight big plays one to DT and another to Eddie Royal for a touchdown. After a Big Ben interception, the Broncos scored again on a Tebow run making it 14-6. The Broncos continued to make big plays with Tebow finding Thomas and Fells deep setting up a 20-6 lead. In the second half, a controversial no fumble call kept the Steelers in it after Mike Wallace took it in for a touchdown later in the drive. Late in the fourth, after both teams exchanged field goals, the Steelers tied it after a Cotchery touchdown catch. Unfortunately, a few plays before that Champ Bailey dropped what should have been a interception. However he made up for it when the Steelers were trying to win and Champ deflected a key pass. In overtime, it happened. First play Tebow finds Thomas for 80 yards. No luck here. Just athleticism and clutch play. My favorite Bronco moment of my young life. Luck was more so against us in this one with the bad no fumble call and a key missed facemask. Luck Factor: 3/10
Well there is my recap of the Broncos wins and how lucky I think we were. Some games had lots, some games not so much. I guess it depends what you call luck. I think the Broncos caught a few breaks but took advantage of them. It is hard to find the difference sometimes of a team making a mistake and the other team getting lucky. Lots were probably a mixture of both. I hope I shutdown any conversation that we got lucky in 2011. Maybe in two or three at the most but hey, that's football. The Giants got "lucky" and so did the Patriots in the playoffs but they are not complaining . They were in the Super Bowl. Although, after that awful performance, I bet you that Tom Brady did not get "lucky."
Remember
"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Seneca
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Lucky? Yeah
alot of things went our way. Look at the Chicago game. If Marion Barber doesn’t go out of bounds, we lose. If he didn’t fumble that ball, we probably lose.
I wouldnt call the Miami game lucky, that was just crazy. 15 points in 2 minutes? I remember thinking the whole game, “Wow, maybe does suck…” then bam, it happened.
Jet’s game was all about will i think. That last drive was epic.
The rest of the games, outside of the Bears game didnt have much “Luck” i think. We had things go our way, but that’s apart of the game.
Agree with all your ratings
And your Seneca quote sums it all up perfectly. We were given the opportunities but still had to take advantage of them. Even in the Bears game, where it’s obviously a 10-10, we still had to get the points on the board after Barber kept opening windows for us. What an awesome ride for us this season though… probably as enjoyable as it can get without making it to the Division Championship game.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 17, 2012 4:15 PM MST reply actions
Enjoyable, but terribly stressful.
Seemed like every game was a mental roller coaster haha
by Scotty Payne on Feb 17, 2012 4:17 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the truth
I got Ayers to retweet me after the Vikings game when I said that those late finishes were going to kill me, but I was going to die with a smile on my face lol.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 17, 2012 4:23 PM MST up reply actions
Anybody who thinks we got lucky
Didn’t see us curb stomp the 12-4 Steelers in the playoffs. If the refs don’t blow that backwards pass dead and Champ catches that interception in the end zone the game wouldn’t have been even close.
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by ElwayFanJ on Feb 17, 2012 4:22 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I agree, particularly with your point about the backwards pass.
That play was a momentum changer. If it had gone the way it should have, we could have blown them out I think.
Never let them see you bleed.
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by the_prodigal_fan on Feb 17, 2012 5:56 PM MST up reply actions
Agree on refs, but not on Champ
We are allowed to recover that backward pass – we likely finish them off. Champ and Doom made the play, but it was disallowed after the fact by the refs. Not so with Champ: he had a chance, but couldn’t make the play. His fault.
Great post Colby
I’ll only mention two things. The first is that you really didn’t mention the loss of Darren McFadden to the Raiders which was huge, our win against them came in his first week being gone. While Bush ran well, he’s no McFadden, especially with it being only Palmer’s second game, I’d move the ranking up from 3/10 to around 6/10. The other one would be the Steeler game, Roethlisberger injury was massive, he was a bigger statue in the pocket than Orton, even early in the game, so I’d move that from 3/10 to 5/10.
Other than that this was a fun article, rec’d. Luck had a key this season, like every season, just this season we got the good luck rather than the bad luck like in 2010 when we lost so many players in training camp.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Plus all the other injuries that happened
Pouncey, Keisel, Hamtpon, Mendenhall, and Clark
by Scotty Payne on Feb 17, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
Oh yea for sure
The injuries during the game played a huge part as well.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
injuries are luck?
don’t agree there. there’s no “oh my gosh, how did that happen!??” when someone gets hurt in football. luck is kind of a debatable term for sure, but personally, no way i’d put injured players under the luck category—for either side. it’s just part of sports—especially high contact ones.
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by oxmouth on Feb 17, 2012 5:45 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
It's entirely luck
In the sense there is little control for the players. Call it luck, chance, fate, or some other thing that just happens. they massively affect games, and since they aren’t something that can be controlled, coached or managed, it isn’t tied to skill or talent, that leaves it to something outside of the players and coaches themselves and they shouldn’t receiver credit or blame for.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
it’s an understood, predictable part of the game, just like there will be touchdowns and beers sold. and it is managed and coached in the sense that bench players exist and practice every day. luck—to me— is something you can’t possibly prepare or plan for, like a sudden gust of wind or a player tripping over a squirrel.
it’s a sliding scale term. we probably need to let it go and at least agree on the squirrel.
"We don’t get no hat or nothing?..." —C. Harris
by oxmouth on Feb 17, 2012 7:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this POV
I would go so far as to say that the core of Bill Belicheck’s success in roster building has been a keen way of assimilating the predictability of injury into his rosters. The whole “Patriot’s Way” could be described as embracing “attrition” in football…while giving new meaning to the idea of the last team standing.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 18, 2012 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
Injuries are part of the game....and a constant reason why teams build depth...is to handle injuries.....injuries are not luck as they can be planned for.
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
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Tell that to Chris Kuper
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Poor Chris
That still brings to mind Eddie Mac’s horrible injury. Every time I think about it. Hope he’s recouping just fine. Also, hope he comes back full strength and with a vengeance! ; )
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Feb 18, 2012 7:24 AM MST up reply actions
Or is it, in this case, reKupe-ing?
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Feb 18, 2012 7:44 AM MST up reply actions
ReKuperating.
I like that one PJBGF
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
Yeah KK...talking about planning a roster around attrition...the injury to Chris (and TD) were flukey for sure...he was great for us!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
injuries are NOT lucky..what about Von Miller being hurt, or Brandon Lloyd being traded??? The other teams were"lucky" because of that.
Lloyd had nothing to do with luck
It was a business decision based on a number of factors, and Miller’s injury didn’t stop him from playing, though his play level did decrease slightly with his injury.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
my point was...
We didn’t have Lloyd, just like those other teams didn’t have whomever. And Miller’s play dropped DRASTICALLY. He couldn’t get a sack with that club on his hand. I also remember TONS of questionable calls going against us in those games. I guess bad calls by the refs means nothing, but damn we sure were lucky!(sarcasm)
No
I don’t think we did, not in that first Chargers game for sure….
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 17, 2012 4:31 PM MST reply actions
Didn't the Giants get a little lucky?
I’m no authority on the Giants’ season, but didn’t they get a little lucky this season? Didn’t they catch a few breaks? I can’t remember clearly. But I seem to remember seeing one game or two games with the Giants in which they got really lucky.
I’d say the caught a break in the NFC championship game.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 17, 2012 4:43 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Actually they were a good team
But they were suffering massive injuries early in the season, their defense was destroyed, but they all got healthy late in the season.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Yeah, they were good.
And Eli played well down the stretch. But I seem to remember a series of pivotal plays that broke their way when they went on their run. And I seem to remember them being on par with Marion Barber running out of bounds and subsequently fumbling.
Maybe I’m mistaken.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 18, 2012 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
I can't think of any
But I don’t follow them as closely as the Broncos.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Feb 18, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
Injuries as related to luck.
If we’re going to assign luck points as a result of other teams injuries shouldn’t we be factoring our own injuries as well. I’d say that Dawkins , Miller and Knowshons injuries were just as critical as anyones. Especially Dawks, the D did not win much with him off the field.
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by asinsoin on Feb 17, 2012 4:52 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Being lucky or unlucky is the name of the game every year.
Every talented athlete in the world still needs luck to execute their talents. A WR almost getting both feet in bounds is just a incomplete pass. A CB making a great burst for the ball only to not catch it, is just a pass defensed. A LB reaching out to get just enough of the foot to make the RB trip counts as a tackle as much as the bone crushing hit. It’s all luck. Always has been.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
I'd rather be good than lucky but I'll take a bit of luck whenever I can. Nothing wrong with a lucky win but those are few and far between usually.
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luck favors the prepared
edna mode, the incredibles
We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
Seneca is wise. Broncos had no more or less luck in 2011 than most season. Our luck year was 2009. Cincy win and great health.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
as you'd agree McGeorge
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Feb 17, 2012 8:48 PM MST up reply actions
I initially thought the Broncos were very fortunate this season
but on reflection McGeorge is right. I don’t think we were any luckier this year than in the past. In fact for every shred of “luck” we had, we can probably dig up something “unlucky” to balance it out. It just felt lucky because we were winning by the skin of our teeth and in spectacular fashion. We’ll have to be better next year regardless but I’m sure we’ll have some good luck and bad luck just like any other season
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Feb 17, 2012 8:36 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
If we were so lucky....
the how would one account for luck with the crowned Packers losing in the playoffs and Colts sucking for Luck losing Manning all season…the bottom line is this: the teams really are close in the NFL – its who makes the plays, who had depth, who out coaches who, what were the match-ups etc…On any given Sunday the worst team can beat the best – why? Who shows up to play and makes the plays! For the Broncos, as we lived through the win streak…I like to think our guys had and played with more heart more than luck…and that’s why they deserved to win.
by Denverkewl on Feb 17, 2012 9:30 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
FYI
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by ocbroncomaniac on Feb 17, 2012 10:39 PM MST via mobile reply actions
luck
Luck is a big part of the game – it’s a big part of every team’s season, and a big part of a lot of games.
I think that’s what makes the discussion tough, is because luck is often brought up as a way to invalidate an outcome somehow, like it makes the outcome count less.
I think that’s bunk. Luck happens, especially in the NFL. All the outcomes are valid.
The question is more what it says about the future. This is tough too, because the future is also going to be ruled by a lot of luck.
At any rate, I do think we advantaged from more good luck than bad luck this season. One way of looking at this is the pythagorean win expectation. Opponents scored more on us than we scored on them this season overall, because we had blowout losses and close wins. Over time you expect wins and losses to be in line with point differential.
Another way of looking at it is WPA. Our biggest plays this season were positive plays. Our top ten biggest plays this year were all as big or bigger than our biggest negative play (Click on my name to see my article series on that.) You don’t necessary want to expect that in future seasons, either.
Some of this may well be because of Tebow, or other players or coaches that specifically stress resilience and not giving up. Other teams might be more willing to give up before the game is over. So there is a chance that we have an advantage in close games because of our personnel or staff.
But when they look at the stats, they tend to see that good teams tend to be better “on average”, too. More blowout wins than blowout losses, more points scored than points allowed in general, and with wins that are less based on the big dramatic play that changes everything.
So… overall I guess I’d say that yes, we were lucky this season. We also earned that luck with resilience and not giving up. And the fact that we were lucky this year doesn’t mean we’re due for bad luck next year, any more than flipping heads five times in a row means it’s more likely that you’ll flip tails on the next flip – it’s still fifty-fifty. The slate is wiped clean next season, for better or worse.
by tunesmith on Feb 17, 2012 10:55 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Lucky?
Yes a lot of luck. It usually evens out, so next year we better come well prepared…
Mal...bad...in the latin.
Great read Colby!
I personally think We got the luckiest during the last three games of the season. Losing them all, and still making it into the post-season. That was lucky. Okay, so was the Chicago game. Barber running out of bounds was either luck, pure stupidity, or someone paid him off to do that.
I’ve been reading Drizzt Do’Urden book series of late, and there is a part where Drizzt defines luck as when one is prepared (and observant enough) and takes advantage of opportunity. We sure could use an ambidextrous dark elf like Drizzt on the team ; )
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Feb 18, 2012 7:11 AM MST reply actions
I confess
I paid Barber off, that’s why I haven’t been paid for the past 16 months….) #justkidding
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Feb 18, 2012 8:37 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what you make
… But that’s probably close to the amount it would take for something like that, I would imagine.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins (perhaps and then some)!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Feb 18, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
No luck, we MEANT to do that,..
AND no apologies!
by Mike@4th&99 on Feb 18, 2012 8:38 AM MST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
The Bears are a valid comparison at this point
Shaky offense plus generally solid defense in 2010…but week after week, they were up against teams on their third string QB or missing key components. They also lost very few games to their key players via injury, went to the playoffs, and were this/close to another Super Bowl appearance. in 2011 they took a step backwards owing to a tougher schedule, the division getting stronger, and injuries coming back to a more normal NFL level.
That’s where I see the Broncos this year.
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