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To draft a RB or no?

It's been a debate on MHR the last few weeks about when the Broncos should draft a Running Back if at all. I'm one of the people who believe EFX will draft at least one RB in the draft, and will do it rather early, in rounds 1 or 2. I know many believe against taking a RB early because of injury concerns, the idea we can get good backs in the later rounds, or that the RB position isn't even an area of need.

Let me try to persuade you some

Star-divide

Lets look at our current stable of RB's.

Willis McGahee: Had a great year, but he's 30 and was dinged up alot and wore down, down the stretch. He will be entering the last year of his contract, and can hit that over 30 wall anytime. Also Coach Fox has already said he doesnt want McGahee carrying the ball 20-25 times again.

Knowshon Moreno: Fragile, doesnt hit the hole, dances too much, slips and trips on air, and did i mention he's never healthy? Add on legal issues, he's on the roster bubble. I believe he still makes the team, but really depends on how many RB's we bring in.

Lance Ball: A 3rd string RB who is a straight-ahead, lower the head, power runner. I think Fox likes him, but ideally he won't be on the team

Jeremiah Johnson: He got a fan base on here, but he's just not that good. He has speed, but goes down quickly after any contact. If anything, put him on the PS.

Mario Fannin: Alot of people on here are just sold on his potential. Sure he has good size and speed, but coming off a torn ACL and being undrafted as it is, i doubt he makes the team. Would love it if he could, but it's a long shot

Looking at that group, i don't feel comfortable moving forward. I see a group of old, fragile and some not so talented players, and i only can say for sure that one will be on the team this upcoming season. If we had an All-Pro QB, pass happy team, and alot of pass catching weapons, i'd be okay with this. But, we have a raw, run first QB, A run heavy coach and a limited amount of pass catching weapons.

Now i know many of you believe we should add some RB's whether it be through Free Agency or The Draft. Lets take a look at the Free Agency RB's.

  • Matt Forte, Ray Rice, Arian Foster: all won't hit the market. Though if the Texans tender Foster, he could be had for a first round pick, and a hefty contract
  • Marshawn Lynch, Michael Bush: Both will be over-payed i believe. Lynch has off the field concerns, and i doubt seattle lets him leave. Bush i like, but he wore down, down the stretch and is closer to 30 then i thought, someone will over-pay for him
  • Peyton Hillis, Mike Tolbert: I like both, both can play FB/RB. Hillis is a locker room problem, and seems to be a fumble prone diva. I'd love to add tank Tolbert. Should come cheaper, can take Larsen's spot at FB and take some snaps at RB and can be a weapon in the passing game.
  • Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, and BenJarvus Green-Ellis: Grant and Benson are basically another McGahee, so i say pass. BenJarvus will also probably be over-payed, plus RB's coming from NE worry me.

Looking at that group, only player that i would go after is Tolbert, and that still doesnt give us another runner. I'm not a fan of giving big FA contracts to RB's unless they're young and proven runners. I wouldnt mind adding Lynch, but i'd rather spend FA money elsewhere.

Now lets look at the draft

  • Trent Richardson: Keep Dreaming
  • Lamar Miller 5'11 212lbs: I've mocked him to us many many times. He's one of my favorite players in the draft. Explosive, has power, shifty one cut runner, elusive, and is a homerun threat waiting to happen. He would be perfect compliment to McGahee. Fox has always had one power guy, and one speedy guy. (Stephen Davis - DeShawn Foster, Foster - DeAngelo Williams, Williams - Jonathan Stewart). So if available at 25, i believe Fox will jump on him.
  • David Wilson 5'10 205lbs: Another fast elusive, powerful back, but has fumble issues and doesn't hit the hole aggressively. He probably won't go in the first round, but a early-mid 2nd round guy.
  • Doug Martin 5'9 220lbs: My second favorite back in the draft behind Miller(outside of Richardson obviously). Would be another perfect compliment to McGahee. He's got speed, not top notch speed, but good enough. Powerful, good hands, great vision and reminds me ALOT of Ray Rice and MJD. His running style and build is very comparable.
  • Chris Polk 5'11 225lbs: He really did not impress me at the Senior Bowl. In the game he looked slow and lacked burst, i know that's not his game, but still he just seemed sluggish. Plus, alot of scouts did not like his character. So im a little down on him.
  • Bernard Pierce 6'0 218lbs: I think it would be a reach right now to take him in the late 2nd, but i'm excited to see him at indy this week. He's a tall runner who lacks ideal power. Tall runners always worry me, but to be honest, idk much about him to be honest.

Those are the 3 backs i would target in rounds 1-2. There's a few other guys who could go here like a LaMichael James, Isaiah Pead, Cyrus Gray, Ronnie Hillman. My only issue with them is that they're under 200 pounds. Our running style seems to be, between the tackles, lower the shoulder and pound it. I don't think these guys fit that style. More of a 3rd down change of pace guy, which if Moreno is on the roster, we already have one.

Here's some late round guys i'd target too

  • Robert Turbin 5'9 215lbs: I really do not know much about the guy, i really want to watch him at the combine. He has good size and speed, great pass blocker and a good receiver. Could be a late round steal. A favorite around here.
  • Vick Ballard 5'11 217lbs: He's a fox type of runner. Straight ahead, lower the shoulder, one cut and go guy. I would like to add him to or backfield. I doubt he will be a, starter. But a rotational power guy who can replace McGahee down the road is a possibility. I believe he would be an upgrade over Lance Ball
  • Marc Tyler 5'11 230lbs: Another guy like Ballard, a straight ahead, north to south power guy who is tough to bring down. Isn't the fastest guy, but can be an upgrade over Ball

Personally, if these are the only backs we draft, i would be disappointed. We need another guy who can carry the load, opposite of McGahee. I'd draft these guys to be 3rd stringer for now, and hope they develop.
Now looking at John Fox's draft history, he has taken many RB's in the first 2 rounds 02: Foster- 2nd, Kyle Johnson- 5th 05: Eric Shelton - 2nd 06: DeAngelo Williams - 1st 08: Jonathan Stewart - 1st 09: Mike Goodson - 4th
That's 5 running backs taken in the first 4 rounds in a 7 year span. Also remember, he had Stephen Davis for a few years. So a RB taken early, wouldnt be surprising. I know he doesnt have final say here in Denver, but he has an opinion, and Elway knows the importance of a strong running game.

Poll
What round would you draft a RB? Explain who you would draft and what round.
1st
17 votes
2nd
49 votes
3rd
34 votes
4th
9 votes
5-7
9 votes
Free Agent Signing(Explain Who in the Comments)
7 votes
Stick with what we have, we did lead the league in rushing you idiot.
1 votes

126 votes | Poll has closed

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I think I am a FA RB believer now.

A underused guy like Forsett or Portis for one last ride.

RBs are like Double 00’s. Good for a while but replicable after a few years.

So unless we can draft James Bond, lets sign someone. Spend the pick elsewhere.

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by Zac Man on Feb 22, 2012 5:19 PM MST reply actions  

Portis is done

Forsett could be a good pick-up, forgot about him

by Scotty Payne on Feb 22, 2012 5:22 PM MST up reply actions  

What has he been doing this last year? If he's been working out then he's worth a shot

if he’s been on the coach … don’t even call him.

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by Zac Man on Feb 22, 2012 5:25 PM MST up reply actions  

still, alot better options out there

Miller is basically a young Portis. Over 30 banged up runners don’t magically get speed and their running skills back. Alot of teams passed him up, so i like to believe he is done. Plus we already have an Old guy in our backfield

by Scotty Payne on Feb 22, 2012 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Forsett

I’ve been calling that name for a while.

That Robert Ayers bullrush against the Steelers scared Chuck Norris.
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by BroncosFanForLife on Feb 23, 2012 6:56 AM MST up reply actions  

The Third

I would like to see Denver choose LaMichael James in the third round.

by Bleedorange on Feb 22, 2012 5:20 PM MST reply actions  

James is a deceptively powerful runner.

kind of like L.T. when he came out, or even Darren Sproles. He also knows the Option attack very well, and would fit in quickly and nicely. Everyone knows him for his highlight reel speed and agility, but several times I’ve noticed him being able to pick up a tough yard, like McGahee he knows how to fall forward, and rarely gets tackled backwards. He is used to catching out of the backfield as a check down, and is extremely good at play-action fakes. IMO he could be that guy who through the combine and pro-days leaps up a round or two. And could definitely work as a 1b type running back

by Tony Astorino on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Martin or La Michael James

Both would add a great weapon to the offense. If Martin falls to us in the late 2nd or James is there later, I wouldn’t mind what either back brings.

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by Topher Doll on Feb 22, 2012 5:39 PM MST reply actions  

2nd round and then again later in the draft, I hope

Martin and Wilson both interestme.

Willis, bless his heart, would shock me if he got 500 yards next year. Moreno too. Ball is below average. Johnson and Fannin are not players we can count on.

Tolbert is the only RB I would want to give any big money to, but I would not break the bank for him.

Yes please to drafting RB’s.

luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan

by chikndnnr on Feb 22, 2012 5:57 PM MST reply actions  

We will draft one I think.

I can’t telll you where. It will be BPA I believe.
If Miller is there at #25 and other positions of need aren’t, I could see him being the pick. I doubt he will be though.
Wilson or Martin at #57 would be a good pick, but not worth a trade up. they’ll be gone too.
I think there are some very good backs that will be BPA in the 5th round or later.
Like him.

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by Digger24 on Feb 22, 2012 6:02 PM MST reply actions  

3rd

LaMichael James

And also sign Tolbert or Bush.

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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 22, 2012 6:37 PM MST reply actions  

Fox will want to draft a running back early and late

Mcgahee is old and we don’t have any other proven backs. I could see us going Polk in the 2nd and Turbin in the 5th. Besides that hopefully all D

by Sean5 on Feb 22, 2012 8:16 PM MST reply actions  

I'll take David Wilson in the second. That's a steal right there.

Wilison hardly goes down after first contact. When I watched him in the Michigan game, I was impressed. Almost everytime he was met in the backfield by a defender, but still managed to shake them off and gain 2-3 yards. Those kind of plays don’t end up on the highlights, yet those kind of plays are important in a game—especially a close one. That’s impressive considering how good the michigan defense was. He didn’t do much stats wise. From what I saw, the o-line blocking for him was soft. Then again, Big Ten is known to be a tad physical hehe. I’m sure Wilson could be a 1,000 yard rusher behind the bronco’s big uglies. Also the guy is a homerun threat everytime he touches the football and also can catch.

I would take either Miller or Wilson, but I like Wilson better.

by tiderfootball09 on Feb 22, 2012 8:27 PM MST reply actions  

Miller, Wilson, Martin are my three ideal backs

I’d be happy with either of the 3 to be honest. I would rate them 1. Miller, 2. Martin, 3. Wilson. But can’t go wrong with either.

I need to check wilson out some more.

by Scotty Payne on Feb 22, 2012 8:32 PM MST up reply actions  

To be honest, I didn't know who Wilson was before the Michigan game.

I sort of stumpled acrossed him and was impressed. Well other then the 20 yard loss he had, but I was cheering about that one because I’m a michigan fan haha.

by tiderfootball09 on Feb 22, 2012 8:47 PM MST up reply actions  

bfree likes Wilson more than Miller too.

Or maybe he was pulling my chain.

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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

I watched NFLN last night

and one of the ex players, who name escapes me at the moment, compared Wilson to Moreno. I do not like that comparison haha

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I saw that too. That was willie mcginnis who made the comparison.

I’d rather have a scout or someone who played the RB position to say who he compares to. I don’t know how he can compare Wilson to Moreno. He should stick to the defensive side of the ball.

by tiderfootball09 on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah him

i dont see it either, but the MO on Wilson is, he dances too much, doesnt hit the hole hard and tries to take it outside. Sounds alot like Moreno

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions  

To me, Wilson's primary game is speed.

Moreno didn’t even have that. He lacked quickness, burst and straight-line speed.

I think Wilson will be better than Moreno. He needs to improve his decisiveness and his vision.

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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 23, 2012 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

IMO...Wilson > Moreno...

Mayock has moved him to 2nd behind Richardson…I’m warming up to him and will watch them compete tis weekend.

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by bfree2bronc on Feb 23, 2012 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

best available rb in rd 2

Top notch FA rb’s are too expensive and already have lots of miles on the engine. Draft one with some fresh legs

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by Calikula on Feb 22, 2012 10:18 PM MST reply actions  

Scotty - love the format

I hope you keep these up. I found it a great summary of the situation. Thanks and Rec’d

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by orange&blue_aussie on Feb 23, 2012 12:11 AM MST reply actions  

I agree. Well done.

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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

There are some things I don't agree with

I disagree with your opinions on Jeremiah Johnson. I don’t know how you formed the opinion that Johnson goes down after little contact.

I don’t get why you are so high on Miller. He isn’t strong. He doesn’t break a lot of tackles. He isn’t a good pass protector.

Yes, the guy is fast and he’s elusive, but that alone doesn’t make him worth a 1st round choice in my opinion.

I would much prefer to take a guy like Martin or Wilson in the 2nd then Miller in the 1st.
I would really prefer to take a guy like Turbin, Polk, or Pierce in the 3rd.

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by Nick Cast on Feb 23, 2012 12:44 AM MST reply actions  

Did you watch johnson play?

sure he’s fast, but after little contact, he went down quickly. He’s just not that good anyways.

Sure he doesnt break alot of tackles, but that’s not his game. He’s a shifty, elusive back, who has great vision, excellent burst and great straight line speed. He’s a homerun waiting to happen. He’s also a solid receiver out of the backfield.

Yes he needs work at pass blocking, he really wasnt asked to do it much in miami, so who knows how good or bad he is.

To me, he’s very comparable to LeSean McCoy.

I still don’t understand why people want to wait later in the draft to draft a running back. Shanahan spoiled alot of you

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 5:20 AM MST up reply actions  

I can talk just by myself

I want a 2nd (but prefer a 3rd) rounder RB because of the risk of a pick at this position. Also the durability of these players are lower. I could suggest you to read the frontpage article by Topher for further details.

However, as we really need to find a good RB now, I wouldn’t be sad if we select Miller. I’d pick Wilson in the 2nd (or James or Polk in the 3rd) and sign a power back like Bush or Tolbert though.

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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 23, 2012 10:13 AM MST up reply actions  

I do understand that, but the risk is there for every player

I mean one hit can change everything. We’re a run first team, and have a need at an important position on the offense, so why pass up on the talent?

Now ideally i would take wilson/martin in the 2nd and take best DT/DE/CB available in the first.

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Good point

Indeed the risk is out there for every single pick… However it increases a lot when we are talking about a RB.

Because of the need we have at RB since we are a run-first offense, I’d be ok with a 1st round RB. Anyway I feel confident about the next draft.

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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Normally i would look at later round RB's

but we have Tebow at QB, so we need a strong run game to help him out. Fox has a history of taking backs early. I agree we have other needs, but we can’t just pass up talent.

It all comes down to who is available and our board

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Nobody is saying wait until round 6 to draft a running back, but using a premier pick on a player who will be sharing a starting job is a waste of assets. With your 1st round pick, you better be getting a starter and someone who makes an impact on your team year 1.

John Fox uses a stable of backs. He spreads out the wealth. With that style of offense, using 1st round picks on running backs is foolish.

Using a 2nd round pick on a Wilson/Martin or a 3rd round pick on Turbin, Polk or Pierce is a great move that improves this football team. Those 5 guys can more then handle being a part of a stable of running backs.

Like I said, being a home run hitter doesn’t mean he is a first round pick. As an RB, you better be able to do EVERYTHING good and some things great in order to be a 1st round pick and I don’t see that from Miller.

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by Nick Cast on Feb 23, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Well he took Williams and Stewart in the 1st round in two years

So he can be “foolish”.

Personally i’d like to go Martin in the 2nd, but i really think EFX will look hard at Miller at 25

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Did Fox draft those guys or did the Panthers GM draft those guys?

The answer doesn’t matter because John Elway is running the show and he hasn’t shown any inclination as to whether or not he would draft a RB in the first round.

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by Nick Cast on Feb 23, 2012 11:37 PM MST up reply actions  

John Elway isn't running the entire show

comon now. Fox has input on what players he wants, to build his scheme around. I mean he is the coach. For “Fox Ball” to work, he needs a strong running game. History shows he likes one bigger back, and one fast back, a 1A,1B at RB. We have the bigger back role filled with McGahee. Now, we need the speed guy, Miller/Wilson/even Martin fit that role. Plus Tebow is a young, raw passer. We need a strong run game to help him out. A versatile, homerun threat, who can carry the ball 15-20 times if needed, and who’s also a weapon in the passing game would be huge for him.

You say, we can get a back later in the draft, sure we could, but thats not how Fox works. He gets his starters in the 1st/2nd round. Again you will say “Elway Runs The Show” don’t be so naive. Like i said, Fox has a say in what players he wants for his scheme. Sure Elway makes the pick, but saying he is “The Man” is wrong. If anything, Elway should know the importance of a strong running game, without it, he probably wouldn’t have any rings.

Will it be Miller at 25? I have my doubts, and he isn’t my first choice. Depends what DT is available and what we do in Free Agency. But i fully expect us to at least add one runner in the draft

by Scotty Payne on Feb 24, 2012 1:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Elway is running the show.

At least in his mind he is. Haha. If he actually was running the show, I would hope he would learn to shut up. Loose lips sink ships.

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by Digger24 on Feb 24, 2012 6:54 AM MST up reply actions  

This is a deep draft for RBs

I can see the FO potentially drafting 2 RBs this season.
I am glad you have reached similar conclusions to me regarding the RB FAs. Also need to look at the cost of an average RB in FA to that of any RB drafted last year.
Currently my RB grades are
1 – Richardson
2 – Miller (his ceiling might mean he becomes 1st rounder), Martin, Pierce (end of 2nd)
3 – Wilson, Polk, James, Pead
4 – Turbin
5 – Hillman

I didnt vote because I dont think you can say which you round you will draft any player, you play the board for what it is but these are the rounds which I would consider the main players.

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by SteveUK on Feb 23, 2012 1:35 AM MST reply actions  

I can see it too

a back in rounds 1-2 and another in 4-5 range.

To me it really depends who’s available at 25. If all the first tier DT’s are gone, i could see us going RB. Ideally id love us to get a DT at 25, and Doug Martin in the 2nd.

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 5:11 AM MST up reply actions  

If think we should be weary about assigning one position for our 1st round pick. We dont want to overdraft and we want to improve this roster every time we get to the draft. Pick the player who upgrades them roster every pick you have in the 1st 3 rounds and then pick the BPA every pick after that regardless of position.

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by SteveUK on Feb 23, 2012 6:16 AM MST up reply actions  

CB at 25.

DT at 57. RB at 88.

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by Digger24 on Feb 23, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I know you won't agree here

but this ist he order I want regardless of FA aquistions.

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by Digger24 on Feb 23, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree

i want a DT at 25, im just skeptical one will be there. Brockers, Still, Fletcher can play 4-3 DT and 3-4 DE so they could go early. Fletcher is a pass rushing DT and may not be at 25. Poe is a 3-4 NT and could be drafted high based on that.

CB depends on who they value higher. Dennard and possibly Jenkins may be available. I see good value in the second for corners though. Brandon Boykin, Trumaine Johnson and Chase Minnifield.

I expect us to get a DT and CB via Free Agency though, so we could go in a different area of need in the draft.

by Scotty Payne on Feb 23, 2012 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Apparently Trent Richardson had a "minor" procedure on one of his knees

And he may not even run at the Combine because of it. The question is, do we consider taking him at #25 if he falls that far?

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by ElwayFanJ on Feb 23, 2012 8:28 AM MST reply actions  

I would.

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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 23, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd consider that a huge fall

We’re talking about a top 5 talent

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by ElwayFanJ on Feb 23, 2012 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotcha

Agreed too, there is no way he slips past the Bengals unless the knee injury is more serious than they’re saying.

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by ElwayFanJ on Feb 24, 2012 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I would take Richardson in a heart beat!

If he falls some where between 10-15, I say go get him. Remember, Adrian Peterson had a knee injury too before the draft and that caused him to fall. I’m sure the teams that passed on him wish they would have taken him. If that happens with Richardson, I sure hope EFX go get him. I’m sure Fox would love to have him.

by tiderfootball09 on Feb 23, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Miller in the first.

I’ve practically typed “War and Peace” explaining why I want Miller, so I won’t belabor it further here.

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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 AM MST reply actions  

I would like to see us have three Running Backs

Willis Mcgahee
Mike Tolbert
Doug Martin
and Spencer Larsen at FB

by Bleedorange on Feb 23, 2012 2:44 PM MST reply actions  

RE: Mike Tolbert

I actually don’t think Tolbert would be a great fit in our system. Perhaps the main reason Tolbert is effective in San Diego is because of San Diego’s elite passing game. I think, if healthy, someone like Ryan Grant would be a much better fit. Nice post.

by swg777 on Feb 23, 2012 2:53 PM MST reply actions  

That's true.

I like tolbert more as a FB/RB. A guy who can carry the ball 5-10 times if needed, and also be a weapon out of the backfield.

I don’t know about Grant, he’s older and beat up.

by Scotty Payne on Feb 24, 2012 1:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Probably draft one, sign one udfa...

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by bfree2bronc on Feb 23, 2012 4:53 PM MST reply actions  

I hate our RB depth.

How in the world did we lead the league with that mess of backs. Johnson is a PS player at best. Ball needs to be bounced to another team. Moreno was so over rated coming out of college. McGahee is awesome. The problem is he is 30 years old. And even if his contract ends after this year, I think we will re-up him for a couple more years he has left. I think this offseason is just as hugh for our RB’s as it is for our Dline, if not more important.

My personal opinion is we need to pick up a young RB that can help split carries with McGahee, or draft Miller at #25. Martin is the only other back in, besides Richardson, that I think could come in a push McGahee day 1. Foxy likes his 1st round picks with Williams and Stewart.Alot of us wanted EFX to go get Williams last year, and he would have do really good in our system. I don’t consider them busts, but his 2nd round backs, Foster and Shelton didn’t do that much. Foster had a okay career, but Shelton was a big disappointment.

If we are going to draft a back early, I think we bring in a back to help push Moreno out the door. Forsett or Norwood would be great additions.

So I think it will be either: McGahee, Miller/Martin, Forsett/Moreno. OR
McGahee, Tolbert/Grant, Turbin/Moreno.

by Bron#1 Fan on Feb 23, 2012 5:50 PM MST reply actions  

I like both Tolbert and Forsett

Both have proven they can be successful in the NFL. Both are used to not being the top banana, so to speak, so it appears they wouldn’t mind a RB-by-committee approach. Both have good hands out of the backfield, both pass protect at a competent level and both are used to playing special teams.

Give me either one, although I would prefer Tolbert because stealing him away from the Dolts would make it that much sweeter!

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