Denver Broncos Runningback Knowshon Moreno Arrested for DUI
by Troy Hufford on Feb 6, 2012 5:09 PM MST
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According to KWGN.com, Knowshon Moreno was arrested for a DUI on February 1st. He was driving 70 miles per hour in a 45 mile per hour construction zone. He was charged with careless driving and failing to have insurance. He is scheduled to be arraigned on March 2nd.
"We take the incident involving Knowshon Moreno very seriously and are thoroughly reviewing this matter."
-Denver Broncos Statement on the matter
The 24 year old runningback was "respectful and polite", according to police, but this certainly isn't the type of news that Broncos fans want on the first day of the offseason. And if irony is appealing to you, just know that Moreno's Bentley has a personalized license plate that reads "SAUCED".
Sauced, indeed...
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Bye Know!
It was fun watching you, but you’re gone. Good luck bro.
Be a legend but don't overdo it.
Good Grief.
Can we cut ties with this loser already?
and yet some people want to draft Janoris Jenkins
Tim Tebow wears 3WM and drinks Tuscan whole milk.
by BroncoMath101 on Feb 6, 2012 5:59 PM MST up reply actions
Bad move
The Broncos don’t need his issues. If he’s smoking dope in college, what’s it going to be when he’s got millions?
by BustedBroncos on Feb 7, 2012 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
Yep...REALLY good...like from Canada...maybe he goes to Grey Cup???
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
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Peace out NoShow Moreno
Get him out of Denver. No excuse for Drunk Driving. . Read the story of Katie Flynn. Inexcusable
There is difference between semi-passed out drunk who doesn't realize he is driving wrong way on expressway and slightly over fairly low BAC limit
The former is a killer. The latter is just braking a law. We don’t know how badly drunk Knowshon was, and what he’s done is not good. But the tendency to lump together all DUI confuses murderously dangerous with garden-variety bad.
really?
Nothing wrong with a little garden variety harmless drunk driving? I hope you never lose someone to a drunk driver
by ten_fiver on Feb 6, 2012 7:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
While I agree with you on the seriousness of the charge
You also have to see his point. The law draws an arbitrary line and we have no idea where Moreno was on it. It’s possible that if he waited five more minutes before getting behind the wheel, he would have been fine and able to pass a sobriety test. It’s also possible that he was drunk enough to kill someone. While it’s wrong to condone anyone drinking and driving, it’s also wrong to convict someone of being in a murderous situation when they weren’t anywhere close to it.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 7:31 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The law is the law for a reason.
Lots of people kill other people with cars stone sober…
If .09 wasn’t dangerous, it would be the limit…
REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
If the state didn't know to tap into emotions for profit
they wouldn’t have made the limit .08. I agree we should follow the law but you’re kidding yourself if you think every law out there is there for our best interests. Sorry, but driving at .09 is not more dangerous than .00.
Sorry, didn't realize you were qualified to make that assessment.
Anything + driving should be illegal… Cars are dangerous enough as it is. People shouldn’t compound the problem by drinking. Or texting. Or being tired. Or putting make-up on…
REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:11 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Depends on your size and tolerance. .09 for me is a lot different than for Ms. 110 pound 18 year old girl.
Regardless, stupid decision by Knowshon; though he was probably out celebrating getting fully recovered from tho year’s injury. Every time things start get better for him life keeps swatting him down… but this time it’s all him. Here’s hoping he can get his sh*t together.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Feb 6, 2012 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
you are kidding yourself
If you think .07 is harmless. I’d be perfectly happy if they made anything over .00 illegal.
And this is coming from a guy who regularly enjoys a drink or 7, spent 6 years holding my own at the bar with my military brothers, and who has made the mistake of drinking and driving in the past.
I haven’t come across any drink that is worth the risk of taking somebody’s child away from them.
by ten_fiver on Feb 6, 2012 8:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
All I'm saying is who can tell the difference between .09 and .08
(I’m assuming .09 is the limit — I honestly have no idea). And it’s stupid to say someone driving 5 minutes sooner than another person is safer. I’m really not saying what he did wasn’t dangerous, but you have to admit that someone who is passing out behind the wheel is WAY more dangerous than someone who has had literally one sip too many. And just to clarify, I would never advocate drinking and driving. It’s just stupid all around. I’m just playing devils advocate with the way the law looks at these things.
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by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
They have to set a law.
Why not at the first sign of impairment on the lowest possible percentage of the population?
In all honesty, it should be outlawed period. Why have a grey period?
REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:13 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not even saying there's a better way to do it or that it's not right
I’m just saying that those who get caught on the edge shouldn’t be persecuted as much as those who were 2 or 3 times over the limit. Those who should have waited 5 minutes deserve a bit of understanding while those who egregiously endanger others deserve condemnation. In my eyes though, they all deserve whatever sentence they receive for pushing the limit at all.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions
In my opinion there is no excuse ever.
I don’t care if its 3x or dead on, driving drunk is driving drunk.
The guy who drives at .19 had the same poor planning as the guy who drives at .09.
REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:22 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not even saying the guy at .09 has an excuse.
It’s just not as bad as the guy at .19. Basically in my eyes it’s like a guy who commits an accidental homicide during a fight versus a serial killer. Sure both were wrong, but one was way worse.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:28 PM MST up reply actions
And in my view
Its like saying a guy that blows someone up is more guilty of murder that someone that just stabbed someone.
Just because one is more dangerous doesn’t mean they should be treated differently.
REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:36 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I do see where you're coming from...
It’s just that in one point of my life, I could see myself being dumb enough to risk the .08/.09 line and in the wrong situation being arrested for it. So I suppose a have a bit of empathy go out, kind of like I could see myself getting into a fight and accidently having something bad happen.
On the other hand, I could never see myself getting to the point where I couldn’t function in the least trying to get behind the wheel.
You’re totally right that they’re both wrong and they should both be punished…they both pose a major danger to society and that should never be tolerated. We’re just going to have to disagree on levels of empathy and condemnation though. It’s just that I see one as a bad decision that could be made by anyone who puts themselves in that situation while the other is a vagrant choice to risk other people’s lives.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting point.
I see it opposite tho. Some one that is near the limit, as a proven fact, has more mental capacity to decide to endanger others than the person that is clearly wasted, and not fit to make that decision.
I would place more blame on the person that kills someone at .10 than the person at .20 because he was less inhibited, and in a better position to realize the risks of what he was doing.
REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:49 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I do see that side as well
Like you’re saying it’s all wrong and they all deserve to be punished. The best solution is not to do it at all.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
That analogy fails entirely
In both cases you looked at the consequences, which have been fully determined at that point.
In contrast, drinking and driving increases the PROBABILITY of someone else getting injured. Not only that, but it’s completely non-linear the way this scales. That’s why an arbitrary line is drawn.
Guess no one remembers the while Matt Prater DUI
Then again, he contributed…
REVELATION 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale [Bronco]: and his name that sat on him was [Tebow], and [a Ferocious Defense] followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth [Quarter of the Game], to kill with [the 1st ranked run attack], and with [clutch plays], and with [bone crunching sacks], and with the beasts of the [Mile HIgh City].
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:07 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
As did DJ Williams
After his second DUI.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
same
This same argument was going on then too.
by ten_fiver on Feb 6, 2012 8:16 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I seem to recall more people being on his side than on Moreno's though
IMO simply because he has more onfield value.
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by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
I blew a .09 in the cop car and I got a DUI. I had 1.5 Newcastle 12oz bottles.
The cop even told me he felt bad for writing me the ticket. I’ve never lost anyone to a DD, and I hope I never do, but there is a difference between being so inebriated that you can’t see straight and having a few beers.
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It looks bad without even knowing what he tested at.
He was driving far in excess of the speed limit, in a construction zone no less. This would tend to indicate that he was fairly high over the legal blood alcohol limit.
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by the_prodigal_fan on Feb 6, 2012 11:35 PM MST up reply actions
Wow
Unfortunately the plates, Bentley and speed say so much more than the DUI alone might…
Fans just wanna have f fun
Good grief
It’s hard to read what you judge, jury, and executioners would write. It’s good that we have you who have never made a mistake in your life to set things straight.
Don't be dumb
All NFL players have 24-hr access to an NFL-sponsored taxi service to prevent DUIs. That’s more than anything an average joe has access to, and it’s exceedingly dumb when players don’t use it. That said, Knowshon hasn’t made a good decision in his entire time in Denver. I hope this is the final straw for him here.
by Linmoo on Feb 6, 2012 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
I’m not saying what he did wasn’t dumb on his part. With the overzealous laws we have in place for drunk driving and the amount of money he has, he has no business even chancing it. But I don’t really remember hearing about any other dumb stuff Knowshon did in his time here besides have a hard time staying healthy. For all we know, he blew a .09 driving 70 on a highway at 1:00 in the morning with not a car or person within a half mile besides that cop. Would anyone really think that was actually reckless and dangerous behavior?
There is no gray area...
He was above the legal limit and his judgement was impaired (as was recorded by the cops who gave him a field sobriety test). You can try and spin this with your asinine “the government is all up in his ass” argument, but the law is the law and his job should be in jeopardy based on that alone, just like anyone else. DJ Williams and Prater too.
That said, weighing someone’s job after an arrest needs to be weighed with job performance. Moreno is not a high performer in this regard. He held out of his first camp, has posted dismal numbers with only a handful of 100 yd games, has a reported history of being lazy and not being a team guy , has a very bad injury history … and REFUSES to bulk up so he can withstand punishment throughout the season. The guys a bust and we should stop throwing money at him.
FYI
If you know the DUI laws, while .08 is the legal limit, you can still get a DUI/ for less, based on the judgement of the police office. I’m not saying he was or wasn’t over the legal limit, this is just an FYI. Also, in a lot of states if you refuse a breathalizer you can/will be charged with a DUI.
So, until more information surfaces, maybe it’s best not to play Tom Synkowski’s game.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Feb 7, 2012 2:34 AM MST up reply actions
How funny
I started my write up for off season needs and this is what I wrote about Knowshon:
Knowshon Moreno has been a bust after being the #12 overall pick in the 2009 draft simply because he cannot stay healthy. He is coming off an ACL tear. He is talented but he is clearly at a turning point in his career. He is cheap so he will probably be back in 2012, but he is definitely not guaranteed a spot
I believe his career just clearly fell off a cliff into a crater.
Adios Knowshon. I preferred keeping Mario Fannin over him anyway.
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Yup. I believe he just sealed his fate.
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If we take a RB in the first 2 rounds like i think we will.
he’ll have to play his way onto the roster. Plus i doubt EFX is really impressed with what they saw from him when he was healthy.
agree, digger.
i’m not a big fan, but he’s not a bad RB. first round pick good? no, but he’s a better back than anyone on the roster now except for mcgahee. he knows the offense and he’s cheap. maybe even cheaper now, assuming there’s behavior penalties in his contract.
he messed up for sure but i think he’ll still be here. dude’s not making things easy on himself though.
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People (esp. Scotty)
have us in dires straights on the RB position. I don’t think we are. I would like to have a speedy guy though.
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We are.
30 year old RB who wore down near the end of the season with nagging injuries. Moreno is always hurt, and not a lock to make the team. What else? Sure Fannin has potential, but he went undrafted for a reason and was in camp for a week and we all think he’s the second coming. Have to lower your expectations on him.
Fox said McGahee isnt going to carry the ball 15-20 times a game already, so who is? Probably a early round draft pick. We’re a team that relys on run, we need to add some talent back there
Spread the news.
Probably a early round draft pick.
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Draft one
just don’t take my high defensive picks away. You can have 4th round or lower.
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Can't ignore the offense.
i don’t understand this reasoning. 1 draft won’t fix the defense. We need to fill multiple areas along the team.
+1
There can be good finds at RB late in the draft. Plus, there is better talent coming out next year in Ball, Lattimore, and Dyer.
Running back is the position where a lot of undrafted succeed
Arian Foster one of the latest
hah—i’d lean toward dire straights, too, i guess. mcgahee’s old and then we’ve got… well, DUI boy and lance ball. seen enough of ball, thanks. fannin could be something, but potential won’t cut it. johnson’s not as good as a lot of people here think he is.
so yeah, we need help there. that’s actually why i think moreno stays.
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He’s not out of here for sure. Most Denver fans hate him for some reason. He showed some flashes in the couple games right before his injury, and was playing great in the game he got injured in. He made a huge mistake, but i’m not giving up on him yet.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 5:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
They dont hate him
We have just seen enough of him tripping over yard lines and running scared to know it would be no great loss if he is gone. ON the other hand, if he would come out and play like he did in his last game or the way he ran on that long screen pass for a TD, we might think about keeping him around.
I’m pretty sure the common nickname used by Broncos fans, “NoShow Moreno”, would say otherwise. And I understand that it wouldn’t be a great loss. But I see a lot of talent and potential in Moreno that I think makes him worth keeping around. If he doesn’t do anything this season, then yeah, he should probably be cut. But it’s not a talent problem with him, it’s the injuries. I think it’s gotten to the point that he’s scared to get hurt. If he can stay healthy, I think he’ll be a good back. The TD against the Raiders and the game against the Chiefs showed that he can do it.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 8:46 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
My bad, the TD against the Chargers*
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 9:22 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Personally, I am more than ready to see Moreno sent packing,
He has been a virtual non-factor in every season he has been in Denver. He needs to be gone, period.
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by the_prodigal_fan on Feb 6, 2012 11:38 PM MST up reply actions
Because Mario Fannin is a freak.
5 ft 11, 230 pounds and he runs a 4.39 40 yard dash.
The guy has home run speed with the build of a pounder.
He is dripping with potential.
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Don’t talk to me about undrafted players. We have seen time and time again that undrafted players can and will make an impact.
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Sure some do. ALOT don't.
for every good one theres alot that never even make the team. The odd’s are stacked against him. If he does something, sweet. If not, no one will be surprised.
You, like many, write off undrafted free agents way too quickly.
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atleast Hynoski looked good yesterday right?
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
But there is a big difference between undrafted free agents and priority undrafted free agents.
Undrafted free agents are guys that are deficient in some way, shape or form that will probably prevent them from ever consistently being starters or even contributors in the league.
Priority undrafted free agents are guys that have the skills to play in the league, but weren’t drafted due to circumstance. Guys like Mark Herzlich and Henry Hynoski who have the ability to play at the next level.
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i think you love them way to much.
I loved Fannin coming out, but it’s hard to imagine him making the team with a new crop of UDFA’s and probably another RB or two added in
How is Fannin worse then any RB on our roster right now? McGahee is the only one I would be comfortable saying is better then Fannin. I’ll take Fannin over Moreno, Ball, Johnson, or Omon any day simply for his upside.
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Taking a guy who's never played a snap in the NFL or made it through a week of Training Camp practices
who just tore his ACL and was passed up in the draft, over guy’s who had some sort of success in the NFL?
Need to lower your expectations big time. Can’t base everything on upside.
When you are talking about the 3rd and 4th RB spots, you certainly choose to pick upside.
I would take Mario Fannin over Lance Ball 100 times out of 100 purely for his upside. Lance Ball is a #3 maybe even a #4 RB and that is all he ever will be.
Mario Fannin could be a #2 back and maybe even more. I’ll take that chance and give him a roster spot any day. If he doesn’t pan out, then oh well. On to the next one. Not that hard to find #3 or #4 RB’s.
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You need to consider that you have one 30 year old RB and an injury prone RB behind him
That third RB better be reliable and Ball sure is.
Ball is reliable for a 3.0 ypc and a fumble at a crucial time.
We could easily upgrade him. He’s absolutely nothing special.
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Mario Fannin was a potential guy in college too. He never really showed up.
Furthermore both he and Moreno have fumbling issues far greater than Ball has had. I do agree we can upgrade him. I want Fannin on the team but he should not be relied upon. Chris Harris impressed in the little opportunities he had and surprised us with a roster spot. He then went on to have a great season. Fannin gets a lot more love than Harris did but he has to earn in it in the same way Harris did. Physical freaks are out there throughout the league and its easy to fall in love with them but it would be foolish too expect something from the guy, rather it would be great if he could surprise us (then you could also say I told you so). But right now only McGahee and Ball have proven to be reliable. That’s a fact that cannot be ignored.
Ball is reliable if you like your 1 yard carries and a fumble here and there.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
He isnt that good granted.
But Moreno fumbles with greater occurrence (and at really bad times). Fannin has fumbling issues as well.
Same thing with Josh Barrett
dont get your panties in a bunch. Its just potential. He wasnt a highlight reel in college and its unrealistic to expect the same here. We can hope but you have to realize he hasn’t proven anything.
Being proven is a lot of time more about being given an opportunity.
Josh Barrett had a potential. We lost him because McDaniels was an idiot. I would have loved having Barrett on the team last year and the year before.
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Well he got hurt so you cant say much about oppurtunities
Right now we have two proven backs and thats it. If he impresses I’m sure he will be given more opportunities. I also miss Barrett.
We have one proven back and a bunch of no bodies. Ball only proved he couldn’t make most NFL rosters. He just happened to get lucky and land on one of the few with no RB talent or depth.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Ball's experience means something to me. I dont trust McGahee to play as much as he did this year. We need to have another back with some experience
Ball isnt great, but he can be trusted more not to “screw-up” than the other guys.
I agree
Along with what was posted above about taxi’s. Heck, let a posse member take the heat, just don’t be dumb enough to get caught DUI. Add to that his production and health issues, he is just not that important.
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by hydrowardaddy7 on Feb 7, 2012 7:35 AM MST up reply actions
1. Construction area on I-25. I’m not 100% certain I would recognize a slowdown area on a highway while sober.
2. If you are a young, rich celebrity, it’s a good excuse to call a cab. Worried about your sportscar? Get a friend to come drive the car (and you) home.
3. Don’t drive while drunk.
Construction zones are always reduction in speed. I haven't seen a construction zone faster than 55.
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the fine is double in Utah
for speeding in construction zones, that didn’t stop my sister, thank goodness, she wasn’t drunk
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 6, 2012 11:53 PM MST up reply actions
As a construction worker
I can say that the drunk driving is just icing on the cake. I hope he has the book thrown at him just for going 70 in a construction zone. State of Colorado needs to get some of that money we overpaid him anyway. Tebow building hospitals, Knowshon paying to pave the roads.
I know everyone who is calling for the guys head has a legitimate beef. Some have lost loved ones to drunken driving and such.I wonder if families who have lost a loved one to a shooting hate guns as much as loved ones of drunk driving accidents hate drunk drivers? Someone COULD have been killed. They weren’t. He screwed up and should pay. He should be suspended without pay and do all the other stuff normal people would have to do such as community service, fines and jail time. the problem is he probably won’t. That’s the crime. Special treatment (which players have had their whole lives) makes them think they are above the law.
On a whole other note, IF we wanted to dump him anyway, this would be a good reason to. Cincy needs a RB.
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by Digger24 on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Cut him.
Take a taxi you obviously have the money too. No point in putting people life’s in danger.
Bentley convertible, yes.
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Can't he just get his DUI in a Ford or a Chevy like anybody else ??
I can see Russia from my house.
I've never gotten a DUI in my chevy.
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Nor I in my Ford.
But a guy driving around drunk in a Bentley convertible seems to be showing little in common with those of us in the 99%. I have only seen a Bentley twice that I can recall.
I can see Russia from my house.
Do we really have to bring up the "99%" whatever the hell that means
Better to be quiet and thought of as ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
by broncofaninIL on Feb 6, 2012 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
As stated above, NFL sponsors a taxi service, but these guys driving $300k vehicles dont want to leave them overnight. So maybe instead of trying to look cool driving these status symbols that make them refuse a ride home, they could drive normal cars that they dont mind leaving in a parking lot overnight or take a cab. Not saying they shouldnt own what they want, but they should think ahead a bit. I dont think I would ever drive to a bar if I had the scratch these guys have even if the NFL didnt pay for it.
by AttwaterForHOF on Feb 7, 2012 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
When I'm lucky enough to have a car
I drive a white Dodge Caravan which was once purple but has a lame paint job. It gets me where I have to go and beats the crap out of walking
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
Most people were looking for an excuse to get him cut anyway. Drunk driving is extremely dangerous to both himself and everyone else on the road, but he made a mistake. He isn’t Brandon Marshall. Hopefully he learns from this.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 5:50 PM MST via mobile reply actions
He isnt Brandon Marshall...but he's nothing special
could be a good 2 back or a third down guy. But he’s never healthy. That’s the problem. Plus the tripping on air thing is an issue.
He was beginning to live up to his potential right before his injury. He was having a fantastic game in the game he got injured in. Matt Prater got a DUI. I never saw a single post about cutting him. Moreno’s better than Lance Ball and Jeremiah Johnson. So unless they add more than 1 RB, I can’t see Moreno being cut.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 5:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Moreno was having a good game against the Chiefs...he always does well against them.
one good game doesnt make up for it.
I never said that one game makes up for it. What I meant is that he’s shown enough potential that if he can stay healthy, he’s got enough talent to be a good RB.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 9:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
If he played the chiefs 16 times a year, sure
8 for 22 against Oakland
2 for 4 against GB
7 for 28 against Miami
14 for 69 against Det
2 for 4 against Oakland
4 for 52 against KC(of course)
Thats what he did when healthy.
Wouldn’t you agree that the O-line was much better blocking after Tebow came in? In limited touches, Moreno averaged over 5.6 ypc. Is that not pretty good? The entire running struggled before that. I know that he’s been underwhelming since he was drafted. All i’m saying is that he’s got the talent to do it.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Knowshon played the miami, det, Oak and KC game with Tebow
McGahee didnt have a problem with the line.
That’s what I said. Both Moreno and McGahee were significantly better after Tebow came in. McGahee wasn’t great before that either.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
McGahee did fine before Tebow.
4 for 3 against Oakland(got hurt)
28 for 101 against Cinci
22 for 52 against Titans
15 for 103 against GB
16 for 125 against SD
Ok, I was wrong
But there’s no denying the fact that Moreno was better with Tebow. 5.6 ypc is nothing to laugh at. That’s why I’d like to see him return next season.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 9:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Too small of a sample size to judge
plus, he’s always hurt anyways, cannot rely on him
by Scotty Payne on Feb 6, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Which is exactly why i said IF he can stay healthy
The guy almost had a 1,000 yd season in a pass happy offense in his rookie season, had almost 800 more in 2010 while dealing with injuries, and was injured for much of this year while showing flashes in a couple games. The injuries are a huge problem, no doubt. And I think they should cut him if he stays injured next season. But there’s enough production there to show that he deserves one more chance.
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 10:23 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
No he isn’t Brandon Marshall. Brandon Marshall was actually pretty awesome for us most Sundays. Knowshon has rarely been any good for us. Moreno was a bust. he stinks.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
He also had several run-ins with the law. I don’t care how he performed on the field. He’s been in trouble a hell of a lot more than Moreno. And no. He doesn’t “stink”. It’s called being injury riddled. He’s got plenty of talent, he’s just had bad luck with injuries. He led all rookies in yards halfway through his rookie year. That’s what he can do when healthy. You also thought Orlando Franklin was going to stink this year too, no?
by jbbroncosfan27 on Feb 6, 2012 8:13 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
This makes Moreno’s 2nd run in with the law since we drafted him.
And I do care how Broncos perform on the field. It matters to me. Moreno doesn’t perform on the field and he is usually too dinged up to play anyway. And the sad thing is, Moreno really doesn’t have plenty of talent. he isn’t fast, he isn’t quick, he doesn’t have an abundance of open field moves and he fumbles too much. His best skill is his pass blocking… oh joy!!!
I did think Orlando Franklin would suck at pass blocking and he is somewhat better than I expected there. I’d only seen him play in college and his rookie year was a success. So I’ve changed my opinion of him after I got to see him play in the NFL.
I’ve seen Moreno play three years in the NFL. I don’t need to project like I did with Orlando before his rookie year.
With Moreno, I’ve got three years of tape and that tape pretty much sucks. Like Moreno. He is a 4th round talent we took with a premier pick. He’ll never see a 2nd contract here, which makes him an outsider until the day his contract expires or we cut him sooner.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
You were right about Franklin
Since the broncos ran so much it covered up one of their weaknesses pass blocking. Assuming Kuper returns the broncos only have 2/5 starting offensive lineman who can pass block. No way Tebow can develop into a pocket passer the way the broncos pass blocked this season. There is some hope for Franklin, he was a rookie, but Walton and Beadles really were poor considering this was their second full year. I hope they have a plan to fix this problem or Tebow better learn how to throw on the run to his right next season.
by Keyworthpunch on Feb 7, 2012 9:07 AM MST up reply actions
solid points Keyworth
Knowshon Moreno, McGeorge has judged you and the scales of justice find you wanting, this might be your last chance
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
Take it easy guys
Is he wrong? Yes…
But cut a good serviceable player because of that? No way! He was overdrafted, but his numbers are pretty decent and he helps our team.
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It's the principle of the thing. They suspend players for hitting another guy after the whistle.
The punishment should be WAYYYYYY worse for a person who gets behind the wheel of a 2500 lb chunk of metal while under the influence of alcohol. It’s a 70 mile per hour weapon, at that point.
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by Troy Hufford on Feb 6, 2012 5:59 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
This x10000
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Yup i doubt EFX will look kindly at this
The guy really isnt favored by the coaching staff i think, add on this with already his checkered medical past?
wow. you throw it out there don't you.
The guy really isnt favored by the coaching staff i think
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I'm not bud.
It’s just that you are so adamant about drafting a RB in the 1st or 2nd round. I am very happy with McGahee. You seem so sure he is about done.
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
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I dont think he's done. I just think we're going to need a 1B
Fox loves 2 RB sets. Also Fox said this…Broncos coach John Fox “no longer wants Willis McGahee to have 20 to 28 carries,” according to the Denver Post. So that means we’ll see another back added.
Just look at Fox’s history. He takes alot of backs in the 1-2 range. Plus with Tebow we need a strong running attack. Lamar Miller, Doug Martin, and David Wilson all make sense and would be perfect compliments to McGahee.
If our offense wasnt so much run based, id be okay with a back in the later rounds, but we need talent back there. I think we all got spoiled by Shanahan turning nobodies into 1200 yard backs
Well I was also counting on Moreno so.....
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Can't count on a guy who's missed 12 games over 2 seasons with injuries and is coming off a torn ACL
who’s production has been less then desired.
I still think he’s a very affordable and possibly great fit as a 3rd-down back. He’s not going to be a 1,000 yard back, but his pass blocking is better than any rookie is going to be in 2012. I think that will buy him another year on the roster, but I don’t see any contract extensions in his future after this.
by YouAreSignedIn on Feb 6, 2012 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
Same for DJ and anyone else who gets a DUI, too.
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But cut because of that, Troy?
I’m against it… or should we cut Matt Prater too?
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:11 PM MST up reply actions
If the NFL wants consistency, yes.
The NFL rosters would look a lot different, but if the NFL really wants all their players to clean up their act, something needs to be done. I think Knowshon should kick it all off. Time to make an example of somebody.
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As I said, I don't think he is the best RB ever...
But he is not that crappy to be cut because of a DUI.
He is a serviceable and at least a #3 to our roster.
If violating the law (DUI) is a fair enough reason to cut him, then let’s cut Matt Prater… It doesn’t make sense for me Troy. Really.
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:17 PM MST up reply actions
That's fine. It's just my opinion.
I’d give him the axe for it. Good thing I’m not in charge, I guess.
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Sure, I respect your opinion. I just disagree and argue why....
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
It's a bias of mine. I admit.
My uncle was killed by a drunk driver. I don’t drink and can’t imagine ever doing so because I know what kind of pain can be caused from driving drunk. If you drink yourself to death in your own house, that’s one thing… but when you put yourself behind the wheel, that’s a whole new set of responsibilities.
The way I see it is if you’re too immature to call a taxi or call a friend to pick you up or, for God’s sake, rent a freaking helicopter for the night… then you’re too immature to play football. C’mon. These NFL guys are paid. Well paid. On the flipside, there are high schoolers who get benched for poor grades. Failing a math test means sitting out of the game on friday night. Their minor mistakes have big consequences. NFL players should be held to a high standard, too. Slaps on the wrist aren’t working. It’s time to send a message.
Again, just my opinion.
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by Troy Hufford on Feb 6, 2012 6:26 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Well said Troy. Most of the people who say it's not that big of a deal or whatever..
haven’t experienced a family member or friend get killed by some asshole who like you said is just too stupid or “too cool” to call a cab or friend to pick them up.
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Oh... now we are talking about another think
I’ll try to expose my idea more deeply…
Look, first of all. DUI is against the law just like any other crime. If a guy makes one he should and deserves to be judged and punished. That’s a fact. I really agree DUI is “more accept” by the society in general (I don’t know if in US it’s like here in Brazil, but I can see it’s at least a little too much accepeted than should). I (talking just by myself FABIO) think that this is a very disgusting attitude that can bring a lot of pain to a whole family. A car is a weapon if not used properly.
On this I’m 100% with you.
I disagree on the part “so let’s cut him because of that”. Look, the Denver Broncos are a team, not a court. We should, of course, get worried about our image (and I’m sure we do)… but it’s the court that must punish the citizen Moreno, not the Broncos.
We, as a franchise, just have to look how serviceable he is, and be able to separate it all. We must see “the footbal side” of the history, not the law.
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:32 PM MST up reply actions
Good post Fabio.
I don’t know how Brazil isn’t the leading country in car related accidents with all those beautiful women walking in bikinis all day.
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I don't think if we aren't
Unfortunately here people don’t respect the law like it seems to be in US. I have a big (and positive) jealousy of you guys because of that. Here people drive drunk much more often than acceptable… cause accidents, kill other people and destroy other families this way. It’s very very sad….
The women is the good part, but I’d trade them + the disrespects for the laws + the disrespects for other people, to get the laws working here.
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:43 PM MST up reply actions
You're jealous of Canada?
I don’t know of that many people that are jealous of Canada. Our women are covered in Parkas all day, and hell I’d be lucky to see one most them just hide in their igloos.
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LOL
Wow, all I can say is it sucks to be you! :) That and Bradfathers pics must drive you crazy!!
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haahhaah
No, I’m jealous on how the laws are respected and works in US!
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 7:06 PM MST up reply actions
You're jealous of everyone can walk into a walmart or kmart and buy a gun? ;)
Now before everyone bashes me, I’ll say here in Canada you can buy a hockey stick pretty much anywhere and you say ha hockey stick don’t do anything well try getting those splinters out of your face/head then we’ll talk.
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All I can say about Canada is
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 AM MST up reply actions
I do drink
and make A LOT less money than Moreno and still have the ability to find my way home without driving if I’ve had a big night on the town. He surely could find a ride, or pay one of his cronies fifty bucks to come pick him and his car up. I don’t live in Denver anymore, but from what I remember, you need to have your best game on to get around town safely even if your sober.
I’m not sure he deserves to be cut because of the DUI, but when you look at his production and injuries and then add the DUI, I don’t think I’d miss him. Dropping guys like him might be another step away from the mediocre.
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 7:07 PM MST up reply actions
No he's not.
He said we should drop him.
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But he has the rights to think it...
..if he thinks we should drop him because of his lack of production (his opinion, not mine) I’m ok with that. I just don’t think we should do it because of this DUI arrest.
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
I think its a combined thing.
If he was borderline but spending every waking hour rehabing his knee, then I think you would see support.
But clearly, he isn’t a humble, “prove my worth” type of guy.
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by Trapped in O.C. on Feb 6, 2012 8:41 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Don't take this the wrong way...
Because I pretty much agree with you, but the reality is the person being drunk and driving isn’t the direct cause of danger. The car hitting something it’s not supposed to hit is the real issue. So from that stand point DUI and regular speeding are in the same bucket. So tell me this… should you be punished at work for getting a speeding ticket?
lots of people
In the real world do get fired for being arrested for a DUI. I see this as no different
by A-Rom on Feb 6, 2012 7:09 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
A Bentley is a 5500 pound, 552 horsepower, $200K+ missile.
http://www.edmunds.com/bentley/continental-gtc/2011/?sub=convertible
I can see Russia from my house.
Decent?
8 for 22 against Oakland
2 for 4 against GB
7 for 28 against Miami
14 for 69 against Det
2 for 4 against Oakland
4 for 52 against KC(of course)
Lance ball faired better then him
Oh... I thought those WERE Lance Ball's numbers... nevermind. Carry on.
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I'm not saying he is the best RB to ever use a Broncos uni
However, he is not that crappy some fans paint him.
Scotty, I could suggest this article by Topher about Moreno…
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:14 PM MST up reply actions
He isnt crappy. If healthy he could be good!
But, he’s never healthy. Plus watch him run, he dances, trips over air and falls down alot. That’s my issue with him. If he can stay healthy and just hit the hole, he’ll be good.
Also i want to see how he is after a torn acl.
by Scotty Payne on Feb 6, 2012 6:17 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not here to advocate for him
Just to say he is serviceable (and the link above confirms it) and a DUI is not a reason fair enough for us to cut him imo…..
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:18 PM MST up reply actions
I'm with Fabio on this.
Last year I was the first to say Perish Cox needs to go. Most people said no he shouldn’t. Sorry but a DUI is bad but not as bad as you people are making sound.
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It's bad, and stupid
NFL has free taxi’s for it’s players. Also he’s putting other people lives, and his life in danger. If leading with a helmet during a game is illegal and met with a fine and suspension, this should be too.
Plus the commish is harsh on off the field incidents, wouldnt be surprised if he’s suspended a game or 2.
Yes!!
We didn’t say he isn’t wrong or his attitude wasn’t stoopid. I’m just saying this is not a fair reason to cut him.
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:33 PM MST up reply actions
Right, im not saying cut him right now.
But he’s on the hot seat or bubble. Needs a strong and healthy offseason
Ok, here I agree
He is on the bubble. But if we cut him in a couple months, it’s because of his (lack of) production and because we’ve got a better #2 and #3 than him. Not because of his stoop attitude of DUI.
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
I hope none of these people saying bye bye to Knowshon or ridiculing him have also advocated drafting Janoirs Jenkins :)
This isn’t enough to cut him. He is under contract until 2015 I believe. If anything they’ll let him play in a few games and if he does well they’ll try and get a draft pick out of him.
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Cool I wouldn't mind if he fell to us. Dre is a first time offender and the charges were dropped.
Janoris is a 3 time offender and guilty as charged.
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by BroncoMath101 on Feb 6, 2012 8:21 PM MST up reply actions
But one's career will be cut short due to arrests for drug charges again. My money is on Jenkins.
Or maybe he’ll shoot himself in the leg, or shoot someone in a strip joint. Seems like bad decisions are a part of his mantra.
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by BroncoMath101 on Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM MST up reply actions
Seriously...
I’m pretty pissed off right now, but I know there were plenty of you who called me an idiot for saying we should trade DJ Williams after his SECOND DUI. Now you’re saying we should outright cut Moreno for his FIRST? Please. The guy has no excuse and should be punished severely, but unless we’re going to get rid of every player who gets in trouble with the law, there’s no reason to cut Moreno for this.
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by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:27 PM MST reply actions
DJ Williams can go with Moreno, too.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2010/11/12/1809942/broncos-lb-d-j-williams-arrested-for-dui
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For what it's worth, I still agree with you on Williams
Another DUI is throwing away your second chance. I’m not going to start supporting throwing away players on one-strike basis though. Would you also agree that Prater should be kicked off the team?
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by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:37 PM MST up reply actions
If I were to pick a surprise of the offseason, it would be Prater not resigned
He has a great leg, second to maybe only Janikowski. He will want big money. But Fox didn’t use Prater to the fullest. There were a number of situations where Prater was not allowed on the field to kick a FG – we punted instead. So here: I think Fox values Prater as high as some other team will. Ravens, maybe?
Interesting theory
But I was asking solely based on his DUI.
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by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
Cut? No.
We can no longer able to count on him as a #2 back though.
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Exactly!
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:38 PM MST up reply actions
we can't count on him period.
if he does anything in 2012 consider it a pleasant surprise.
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
I expect him to be our #3!
1. McGahee
2. the new rookie drafted
3. Moreno
4. Ball
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:44 PM MST up reply actions
Why is everyone so down on Moreno?
I’ll admit he’s injury prone… but when he’s healthy and gets in a rhythm he can be awesome. Personally, I can’t wait to see what he can do with the option game and screen passes. That seems to be perfect for his style.
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by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:45 PM MST up reply actions
This!
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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 6, 2012 6:47 PM MST up reply actions
When is he in rhythm?
We gotta play the chiefs 16 times a year for that. He would be best used in the passing game/third down back. I think that’s what MCD envisioned using him as. Not a 20-25 between the tackles runner
I've seen him get in a rhythm quite a few times
A lot of his problems were McD’s blocking system IMO. My favorite game from him was actually against the Seahawks in ‘09. He had that one run where he just kept breaking tackles and hurdling guys… I’ve held firm that he has great potential ever since I saw that one.
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by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:50 PM MST up reply actions
What about this year?
8 for 22 against Oakland
2 for 4 against GB
7 for 28 against Miami
14 for 69 against Det
2 for 4 against Oakland
4 for 52 against KC(of course)
Thats what he did when healthy.
I'm never going to argue that he's been a top back
All I’m saying is that he’s still very young and he’s shown the potential to be one. He’s had far more bad games than good, but I have faith that with a coach who knows how to use him and the motivation he showed to get into the shape he was in last year, he could get there. If he continues to have more bad games than good for another year or two, I’ll have no problem saying goodbye to him. I just think it’s still a bit too early to declare him a bust.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
Not saying he's a bust...yet.
Odds are stacked against him. Injuries, not being productive, now an off the field distraction.
I'd say we're on the same page then...
Just a glass half full/empty sort of deal I suppose. I think we could stand together on the statement that I hope he turns it around and lives up to his potential for us but I won’t shed a tear if he can’t and he’s gone. And if he can’t live up to it, the sooner he’s gone the better.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:59 PM MST up reply actions
DJ WIlliams>KM in football skills
by a lot
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
The worst part is...
he pulled a hamstring doing the roadside test.
by Bradoncadonc on Feb 6, 2012 6:32 PM MST reply actions 10 recs
Nice.
-Champ Bailey's calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Champ Bailey-
-The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese -
Can we trade him for a Happy Meal? I'm hungry.
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
The Hardee's Silly Sack>>>>Happy Meals
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:15 AM MST up reply actions
a lunchable would do
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Can you find the 'W' in this mess? Tebow can.
I hate drinking and driving.
That said i thought I was fine one time and got a DUI myself. Stupid. I paid my dues for it though and now am not sauced when I drive my Bentley.
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
Alright fellas the circus is over...
Knowshon Moreno is probably just as frustrated about his career and what he did in this incident than anybody. He also knows if he can’t stay healthy that his time in the NFL is at peril and has turned to the bottle for relief instead of the player counselor guru EFX has hired this ast year. This too, will work it self out in it’s own way. What we say or think mean absolutely nothing…
"You hate to think you have to censor your language to meet other people's lack of understanding" -Julian Bond
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Yeah, when has that ever stopped us ???
I can see Russia from my house.
Alaskan..Gotta Ask
Is your signature from a Sarah Palin quote or the SNL presidential bash? If you don’t mind me asking.
Strength and honor
"It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you've got to have is faith and discipline when you're not yet a winner." -Vince lombarti
by kybroncomaniac on Feb 6, 2012 8:16 PM MST up reply actions
It is what Tina Fey said when she was Sarah on SNL.
The origin had to do with Sarah (really) claiming foreign policy expertise because Alaska is next to Russia. On SNL, when Tina Fey was asked what foreign policy expertise she (as Sarah) brought to the ticket, that was her response.
I can see Russia from my house.
I remember the episode clearly.
Seeing your sig cracked me up, and thought it might be. You made at least two people (my wife laughed too) smile today. Thanks.
Strength and honor
"It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you've got to have is faith and discipline when you're not yet a winner." -Vince lombarti
by kybroncomaniac on Feb 6, 2012 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
Something I never understood....
How was Sarah Palin’s lack of foreign policy experience, which was very real, an issue for a VP candidate and not for a presidential candidate (Obama) who had less than Palin?
by Keyworthpunch on Feb 7, 2012 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
When you watch SNL...
There is nothing sacred. I enjoyed the presidential bash just because of how funny they were. The line was one that stood out because Tina Fey came out of retirement to play Sarah, and knocked it out of the ball park (IMHO). Me and my wife enjoyed that episode very much. The actual political veiws in a serious light might best be discussed through private message as I would not want to distract from the situation at hand with our beloved Broncos. I say this with every intention of meaning you no disrespect. I like Sarah, but love comedy also. I’m all about a laugh, sometimes at my own expense :) Hope you understand…..
Strength and honor
"It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you've got to have is faith and discipline when you're not yet a winner." -Vince lombarti
by kybroncomaniac on Feb 7, 2012 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
Moreno is a bust. Nothing we say can or will change that. Bad draft pick, bad player. It is what it is.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
This.
That is why he should be cut. The DUI is icing on the cake.
Whatcha gonna do, brother, when the Broncos run wild on you!
RB in the 1st or 2nd?
I just don’t see the brass drafting a RB that high, therefore we need Moreno until at least the end of training camp. If he don’t cut it by then and somebody out plays him then cut him or trade him for that happy meal.
by OrangeRhino on Feb 6, 2012 6:51 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I’m not even that mad. Moreno has never really been a Bronco. Always seemed like an outsider that didn’t fit in, didn’t make much of an impact, wasn’t really missed and wasn’t ever a big part of our game plan.
If we take an RB high in 2012 and sign another one in UFA, I’m not sure Moreno was a lock to make the 2012 Broncos anyway. He has never been good enough to consider him a key player.
I don’t really care if we cut him or keep him. Moreno is about as important to the Broncos as Lance Ball or Ryan McBean. Guys like Morneo are a dime a dozen and can be found in the 4th round of any draft.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
This is one of the things that bothers me the most about the NFL
No loyalty at all, and it goes both ways. Don’t get me wrong, I’m usually not the type who sits around and longs for players once they’re gone (I did have a bit of a freak out when we first traded Cutler admittedly), but while they’re on our team, they have my support (except for women-beaters and rapists). I seriously hate it though when it turns 100 percent into business… players who give their heart and soul to a team are released the day before the Super Bowl now. It rarely makes sense to buy a jersey anymore because how often do we have a player worthy of such an honor stay with us longer than five years? I’ve got a Bailey jersey and a Tebow jersey… the rest are gone, some within a year of me wasting my money. When I was young, knowing all the players names was magical. They were like superheroes… now it’s a getting to be a challenge just to figure out who that is on the field from week to week and where he’s going to be a month from now. And now I’m depressed and apathetic again, so rant over.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:03 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Well said man.
-Champ Bailey's calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Champ Bailey-
-The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese -
My daughter was miffed about the fact she only has a Cutler Jersey...
Before the Pittsburgh game she wanted to wear her bronco jersey on Friday to school, but said to me in a rather judgmental tone, “You said we would wait a year to buy his jersey to make sure…” I was put in the awkward position of telling her, “Yea but teams usually don’t trade talented QBs who make the pro bowl, even if the QB has some areas he needs to work on”. She said, “People will make fun of me saying he was a bad quarterback.” I told her to remind them he did make a pro bowl and to check Chicago’s record last year when he played for them, this year when he was their QB and what their record was without him."
It was kind of a surreal conversation, never would have happened when I was her age.
by Keyworthpunch on Feb 7, 2012 9:26 AM MST up reply actions
So let me get this straight
We signed him as the #12 pick in 09 for bookoo bucks, and he’s too cheap to have insurance and call a cab? I make about 20k a year, and I still have car insurance and call a cab or hoof it when Im drunk. Cut this bum
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Moreno also held out and immediately got hurt. He has earned about 12% of his contract to date.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Which is why I wont be bummed if we cut him
at least DJ Williams is a decent linbacker for us. No Show has never been decent for us except for those 2 games against KC. He gets paid 1st round draft money but plays like Lance Ball. Like you said above, he’s dime a dozen player you can find in the 4th round and later
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Why should he waste money on a cab?
The NFL has a FREE car service that these guys can use at any time, just to make sure they don’t do something like this. Smack My Head!
by Bradoncadonc on Feb 6, 2012 11:19 PM MST up reply actions
And its free...pisses me off even more
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Another wound we must stitch up.
I suppose controversies will abound, but it is disheartning to see yet another split in our fan base. I hold out hope until it is no longer reasonable to do so. I have learned that you do NOT make those discisions based on a quick news flash, neither do you make those descisions based on knee jerk reactions to them. I personally will pull myself aside, and take at a minimum 24 hours to ponder how I truely feel about Knowshon and his status with the Broncos. I will await further information from the incident, and exercise a little patience until further information is available. I just hate seeing yet another controversy in our midst. I just want healing now, and hold out hope that it will come soon.
Strength and honor
"It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you've got to have is faith and discipline when you're not yet a winner." -Vince lombarti
Dumb arse!
Foxy...you WERE on the hot seat, but you fooled me you rascally old deveil...keep building that team mate!
"Tebow is a special player. I have never seen a player quite like him in my whole career! I’m gonna play all out for the guy! I know he will be out there giving 110% every play every week, so I’m gonna give 120%!:
Champ Bailey.
DUI laws are sadly about making money than they are to protect lives
There is no way for someone to know if they are a .06 or a .10 and everyone’s bodies react differently. If people’s lives were the main priority, a zero tolerance law would be in place where there is no grey area. Drunk driving would go way down, as would DUIs which would mean less money for the states. Maybe a better idea would be to require all auto manufacturers to have breathalyzers in vehicles by a certain timeframe.
by knoepke84 on Feb 6, 2012 8:12 PM MST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Better idea
call a cab. Theyre free for football players
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
That's right, they have a 24 hr number to call and the team picks up the tab if I'm not mistaken.
by knoepke84 on Feb 6, 2012 8:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
What really chafes my ass more than the DUI is the no insurance
I know the DUI should be more serious, but this guy makes more money than I can ever dream of and he’s too cheap to insure “SAUCED” Loser
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
That's not always as bad as it sounds...
I had a college roommate miss a payment and hit a deer the next day… Total loss and a ticket for no insurance on top of it. Granted he didn’t have Moreno’s resources, but I’m just saying that can be a simple mistake if you don’t have automatic payments set up (which I don’t know why he wouldn’t). Interesting story nonetheless though I guess.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
maybe he needs a personal assistant.
although, that sounds like something that could go bad as well…
"We don’t get no hat or nothing?..." —C. Harris
Theres no excuse for guys with his kinds of resources
And I have auto payments set up with my insurance to cover that kind of thing. Im sure someone that should be busy training as a professional athlete would have the same sort of account set up so he doesnt have to worry about it.
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Yeah, I kind of figured that out midpost lol
Still, I suppose if he does do his own bill paying it might have been a mistake he shouldn’t have made rather than being a cheap tightwad millionaire asshat.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:51 PM MST up reply actions
I prefer the latter
He’s too cheap to call a free cab, and probably too cheap to insure his sauce mobile
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Lol, well as long as he's in the orange and blue...
I prefer to think of him making a mistake than to having an asshat on our roster.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 11:04 PM MST up reply actions
Id prefer to see him in some other teams colors
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Keep him in orange.
Send him to Cincy. Do you know why they wear orange? It isn’t because most are ex-construction workers.
Believe you can and you're halfway there.
Theodore Roosevelt
Well
The whole no insurance thing might not be what we think either.
You will get a ticket for “failure to have insurance” if you don’t have a current proof of insurance on you/in vehicle.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Feb 7, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
And it is hugely dumb for NFL players to get DUIs when they have the money to pay someone to be their driver for the night
Screw a cab, they could have someone in their crew stay sober, kick em down with $200 or so and have that person drive him where ever the heck he wants for that night. Aldon Smith is another recent one. These guys unfortunately start thinking they are on top of the world and are invinceable, then a DUI gives them a painful reality check.
by knoepke84 on Feb 6, 2012 8:16 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Ruh roh Raggy
nah nah nah-nah… nah nah nah-nah… hey hey hey… gooood bye!!!
This is the end of the line with Knowshon and I. I’ve had his back through thick and thin. I’ve taken up for him when most wouldn’t. I know that people are going to drink and have a little fun from time to time, but a privileged athlete with mad money like him should NEVER be drinking and driving. Dude… buy a designated driver for God’s sake.
It’s over Knowshon… go suck up cap room somewhere else.
"If you went to the Fair with this guy and you played that game where you have to throw the ball through the hole..... he may never get it through the hole, but he's still gonna be walking away with all the stuffed animals!" Prime's commentary on our very own Tim Tebow!!!
"As iron sharpens iron, so will one man sharpen another." The Bible, by way of Tim Tebow.
"If I had to choose between an abundance of football intelligence, or football wisdom, I'd choose wisdom every single time...... John Fox has enough football wisdom to be carried in a dump truck." Me!
Hey Moreno...leave us the beer will ya?
Looks like he needs two rehabs….
how the F can a literal millionaire...
Not Fn afford insurance or a cab or a limo or anything else that would have prevented this? This type of story is rediculous to me!
Playoffs!?!? Playoffs!?!? Don't talk about Playoffs!! Playoffs?!?!
by Mike Agnew on Feb 6, 2012 9:38 PM MST via mobile reply actions
What a jackass right. No car insurance on a Bentley? What if some drunk hit him? What if someone side swiped him in the Safeway parking lot? Just go buy a new Bentley? Moreno has no shot at a 2nd large contract right now from anyone. He needs to be saving his pennies, not burning his money in the trash. Nice hold out Moreno.. You sure earned those extra dollars.
The moment I saw Moreno playing dominoes on draft night like some phony tough guy gangsta, I was unimpressed. Year after year, Moreno continues to deliver on his vast unimpressive-ness.
I’m sure we’ll get another 8 or so subpar games out of him in 2012.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
"vast unimpressive-ness"
I am not sure my 9th grade English teacher would approve, but I love it and it sums up his career fairly succinctly.
by Keyworthpunch on Feb 7, 2012 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
apparently he
drinks during the Allstate Mayhem commercials which warn you about all the things that can happen to your valuables smh
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
This is ridiculous already
3 Broncos arrested for DUI in 14 months??? Out of, what, 70-80 players that have been here? That is sad. I’ve been at my workplace of 250+ people for 10 years, and theres only been 1 that I know of thats been hit with it. How is this possible?
Drinkin the kool-aid, smokin the Orange Kush
Your coworkers don't have an endless amount of wealth and entitlement?
Actually, in college, I had a professor who did he graduate thesis on NFL players. (He got all access to the Titans I believe.) His research found that most of the players never had any money at all growing up and suddenly had more than they knew what to do with. The ones without foundations to keep them active and to channel a good portion of their money through usually regressed into the most deviant lifestyles they could imagine. He said half the players were having homosexual sex because regardless of their sexuality, it was deviant behavior and they loved the power of dominating anyone and everyone. According to him, the inner workings of the NFL are as shady as can be and they do everything they can to keep it under wraps yet a vast majority still spend every chance they can get at strip clubs ingesting as many intoxicants as they possibly can because they can afford to.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:03 PM MST up reply actions
HALF? That would be funny.
luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan
That was the reaction of his entire class
But he said he was probably being conservative with that number and it might even reach 70 percent on some teams. He said all the players he talked to were very factual about it and basically accepted it as a part of life in the NFL. He also contributed the behavior to the “lottery affect.” How win people win the lottery they usually go completely nuts and end up dead or in jail within a decade because they can’t stay grounded. Same things happens to the athletes a lot of times.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
Although I should probably amend my statement...
It wasn’t like half the team was constantly having sex like that every week (like my statement makes it sound looking back on it). It was more along the lines of every once in awhile they would get so waisted that the opportunity would present itself and they wouldn’t turn it down for various reasons such as power and domination.
None of us go out and play for stats. You just do whatever you can to help the team out. -- Eddie Royal
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:49 PM MST up reply actions
Geez… I’m not a huge fan of drunk driving or anything… but ripping this guy apart and demanding his release might be a little overboard. I love when fans hold athletes to a higher moral standard than they themselves live by, good times.
Von Miller once sacked three different quarterbacks, in three different games, in three different zip codes... in the exact same moment in time.
Welcome to the DoomerMill.
Oh right, cause we all drink and drive
How silly of me for forgetting
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
Nice try
Do you have a job? I do. It’s a cold hard fact that if I get a DUI I’m fired. Period. On top of that, I’m done in my career field as well.
What’s wrong with holding pro athletes to our standard?
if nothing else
they should exceed our standards. For better or worse, children look up to Peyton Manning and Drew Brees more than your average broadcaster/online media mogul who Tweets compulsively. What did Spidey say, with great power comes great responsibility!
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by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 12:29 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well put brad
"It's all over fat man!"
-Tom Jackson
"When John Elway is standing in lava with a football, he will stay there and sink until you're open"
-Seanbaby
thanks brah!
Brad James
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Feb 7, 2012 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
I don't know what you do for a living....
but I don’t see a connection between DUI and dudes mutilating their bodys every sunday for our enjoyment.
If it was a lawyer… or a judge.. cop.. etc. yeah I see that. You don’t want people with bad judgement so closely related to the law. But this is football. I mean.. should be punish strippers for DUI? “Sorry Diamond…. you’re suspended from the stage for 2 weeks. No lapdances in VIP either”
Great point Triz
I dont like it when people force their opinions upon others. This is football lets not get all political and make judgements. People do this with DJ and now its Moreno’s turn. The guy made a dumb decision, its not our place to decide what happens next, and one decision doesnt define who you are.
I won't buy that argument either
I served 6 years in the military. You can’t come to me with the whole “mutilating their bodies” argument. They play a game. Servicemen and women literally sign their name on the line to give up their life. Also, I’ve yet to meet a soldier who makes million dollar salaries and does their job for only a short part of the year.
Athletes are role models, very highly paid role models. If you can afford a Bently while thousands of kids look up to you, you can suck it up and be responsible.
by ten_fiver on Feb 7, 2012 7:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Still don't see the connection
I never served in the military, but I would think that bad decision makers could get people killed. So once again its different. These guys are playing a game. If there was no football 75% of the nation would be unphased. if there was no Navy, or army, etc… we’d probably all be screwed. So I’d like to see good decision makers in the military
With regard to pay… I think salary is based on value. The most valuable thing service men and women have to offer is their life… across the board. But ironically, since no one life is worth more than another… it doesnt translate to 7 figure salaries because there are plenty of people that will serve for less than a million dollars a year. And lets not get it twisted…. the guys making millions are the middle of the pack and higher. I think the lower guys are all under $1M a year.
The simple truth is Moreno would get more leeway if he wasn’t such an under-preforming disappointment.
And as one of McJedi’s high character draft picks, this is Moreno’s 2nd run-in with the law since he was drafted. He punched out some dude at a bar in Athens GA after his rookie year and got arrested for that.
His best off-season work was when he was photographed at the Playboy Mansion with Brandon Lloyd last off-season. I guess he needs to spend more time in So Cal and less time in Athens or Denver. Keeps him out of trouble.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Dang it Knowshon.
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb,
"I'm going to be a Bronco forever" -Rahim Moore
by Pmoreno95 on Feb 7, 2012 7:59 AM MST via iPhone app reply actions
People are complaining
how we are saying we should cut him, and to to Prater and Williams when they got their DUIs. There is difference, those 2 actually show up on the field, Moreno has to contributed anything on the field. The minute we drafted him, while he’s sitting in a shitty basement playing dominions with other thugs had made me hate the guy from the start. I want him gone.
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