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2012 Draft Prospect: Vontaze Burfict = Bill Romanowski (what is the Risk/Reward)

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Vontaze Burfict - Height: 6-3
Weight: 250
Position: Linebacker

The most feared Man in College Football

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Bill Romanowski
Height: 6-4
Weight: 245
Position: Linebacker

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As you all know, Romanowski played 243 consecutive games, an NFL record among linebackers, won 4 Super Bowl Championships, and is the only linebacker to start 5 Super Bowl Games (Super Bowl XXIII, Super Bowl XXIV, Super Bowl XXXII, Super Bowl XXXIII and Super Bowl XXXVII). During his 16 year career, Romanowski compiled 1,105 tackles, 39.5 sacks, 18 forced fumbles, and 18 interceptions, which he returned for a net total of 98 yards and 1 career touchdown. Romanowski was a Pro Bowl selection twice, in 1996 and 1998, both during his tenure with the Denver Broncos. He was also known as one of the dirtiest players in the NFL.

Altercations:
Romanowski has been involved in numerous altercations with both teammates and opponents. In 1995, while with the Eagles, he was ejected from a game — and subsequently fined $4,500 — for kicking Arizona Cardinals fullback Larry Centers in the head.[1]

Two more incidents occurred during the 1997 season while he played for the Broncos: In the first, he was fined $20,000 after a helmet-to-helmet hit on then-Carolina Panthers quarterback Kerry Collins in a preseason game resulting in Collins sustaining a broken jaw;[1] in the second, Romanowski spat in the face of 49ers wide receiver J. J. Stokes in a regular-season game played in December on a Monday night in response to Stokes' taunting.[2] Two years later, while still with the Broncos, he was fined a total of $42,500 for three illegal hits plus a punch thrown at Kansas City Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez, and was also fined an undisclosed amount for throwing a football at Bryan Cox of the New York Jets, the ball hitting him in the crotch area.[3]

In 2003, Romanowski attacked and injured one of his teammates, Marcus Williams, during a scrimmage. Williams, a backup tight end for the Oakland Raiders, was forced to retire after Romanowski confronted Williams after a play, ripped off his helmet, and crushed his eye socket with a punch.[4] Williams sued for damages of $3.4 million, arguing that Romanowski had been suffering from "roid rage" when he attacked him. This argument was later rejected by the judge on the grounds that Williams could not prove that Romanowski had actually used steroids on the same day as the attack. Williams was awarded $340,000. Williams was quoted as saying he and his lawyers "just wanted to prove what was right and wrong about football".[5]

My personal take: With Romo on the field the opposing teams absolutely feared playing us. What is the risk reward for this and what is the risk reward for getting another intimidating "roid rage" and intense player who puts the fear of God in everyone not in a Broncos uniform?


Thoughts?

Enjoy this: Vontaze Burfict - All American

Vontaze has already got the "Tebowing" thing down:

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Regarding Drafting Vontaze Burfict: Is the Reward greater than the Risk?
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I think it’s a flawed analogy, only because Romanowski is really smart, and driven with his smarts. No idea how smart Burfict is but I saw reports that he had to be fed play-calls regularly, like he didn’t really know what he was doing.

The other thing about Romanowski is that a lot of the information about how much of a all-around bad dude he was didn’t come out until after his playing career was over. When he spit in that receiver’s face, I remember people being pretty shocked, like it was out of character or something. Later on you hear about how he broke some guy’s finger under a pile, on purpose, and was laughing about it. I think more people would have had a problem with him being a Bronco – despite his talents – had more of that been known while he was playing.

by tunesmith on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 PM MST reply actions  

JJ Stokes

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when the Broncos run wild on you!

by postpunk27 on Feb 7, 2012 11:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm all for it.

Whatcha gonna do, brother, when the Broncos run wild on you!

by postpunk27 on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 PM MST reply actions  

No harm having one crazy guy in the side.

I think opposing offenses relaxed a little when Romo decided to move on.
The guy had a football brain though, so it remains to be seen if Burfict is as switched on.

by broncinoz on Feb 8, 2012 1:09 AM MST reply actions  

I loved Romanowski

But….
That era is past in the NFL. Romo got worse here in Denver or I just didn’t hear about it in San Fran, not sure which. I was not shocked when he spit at the player at all. There was shock and that surprised me ;) I would have to say no to players like Suh. We don’t need that.

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by Sean in Pa. on Feb 8, 2012 4:16 AM MST reply actions  

Yup agreed

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by Calikula on Feb 8, 2012 7:47 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 8, 2012 7:52 AM MST up reply actions  

ya...

lets just keep to drafting nancys who dont scare anybody

by TRUTH_HURTS on Feb 8, 2012 5:28 AM MST reply actions  

On the fence with Burvict

First round no way but at pick 57 maybe . I keep thinking what a good D Tackle and Middle Linebacker with his talent could do for this defense .

by ultraclassic04 on Feb 8, 2012 5:39 AM MST reply actions  

Million dollar body - 10 cent head

no thanks.
The MLB has to be the QB of the defense. This guy couldn’t think his way out of a brown paper bag. Add to that the fact that he was benched at the end of the year by his college coach – stay away.

Overpursues, takes bad angles, gets lost during plays, lets opposing players get in his head, has a tendency to go for the “kill-shot” and miss tackles - Does this sound like the guy you want in the middle of the field LEADING the Broncos D?

Let the Pats draft him and see if Belicheat can make something out of him.

Win the individual battles at the LOS - all else flows from that.

by DE_BroncoFan on Feb 8, 2012 7:25 AM MST reply actions  

We already have a Mike that does some of those things!

"You’re only great if you win something. I mean, Alexander wasn’t Alexander the Mediocre or Alexander the Average. He was Alexander the Great, and there’s a reason for it."-Shannon Sharpe

by CH74 on Feb 8, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

I would almost rather have him start than Burfict.

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by Digger24 on Feb 8, 2012 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Burfict will be a Raven

An when Ray Lewis retires, they’ll transplant Ray’s brain into Burficts body.

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by CH74 on Feb 8, 2012 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Can we get Ray's brain in FA?

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by Digger24 on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Only if we can find a suitable vessel to carry it.

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by CH74 on Feb 8, 2012 4:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

we don’t even have a vessel.

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by Digger24 on Feb 8, 2012 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

All this talk about vessels

Is giving me Star Trek IV flashbacks. I keep hearing CMDR. Chekov saying “We are looking for nuclear wessels”! The 80’s have ruined me!

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by CH74 on Feb 9, 2012 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Completely different players

As Tune said above, this analogy is flawed – actually, it’s beyond flawed.

The knock on Burfict isn’t that he’s a dirty player – it’s that he’s stupid. He can’t play assignment-based football. That’s why he ended up on the bench his senior year.

Bottom-line: Romo, for all his faults, was a winner. Burfict is a loser.

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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 8, 2012 7:43 AM MST reply actions  

NO

I’m not sold on Hightower also, but anyway I don’t want Burfict here. If the AZ State benched him a couple times, something there is very wrong.

My plan A is to coach Nate Irving well and let him play this year to gain experience and be our stud mike soon

My plan B is moving after Te’o in 2013 if Nate shows he isn’t our solution.

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by Fabio Broncos on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 AM MST reply actions  

I'm with many of the guys above. It isn't a matter of his nastiness its his brain for me.

I don’t want a MLB who can’t lead the D or has to be told what to do on almost every play. That will end up costing us more than helping us. Plus he didn’t really do much to stand out on a very bad defense except for a few highlight hits. We already have that in Joe Mays

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by BroncoMath101 on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM MST reply actions  

I think when drafting a player with character concerns, the Broncos need to make sure it is in a low risk to high reward ratio. The way we are building through the draft right now, we cannot afford to be taking players that are not sure fire hits in the 1st round. The talent on this team is just not deep enough to miss in the 1st right now if we are to build of the season we just had. Not to say Burfict isn’t going to be a home run in the league, because the talent is definitely there. I just think he is more of the type of player that should be taken in the 3rd round or possibly the 2nd depending on his interviews.

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by AvalancheRescueDog on Feb 8, 2012 2:17 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks, but no thanks.

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by Nick Cast on Feb 8, 2012 4:41 PM MST reply actions  

The Ravens will probably draft him at 29 and we'll be pissed at EFX for years for not getting him at 25...

Isn’t that the way it goes sometimes?

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by bfree2bronc on Feb 8, 2012 5:59 PM MST reply actions  

Bill is just misunderstood.

Short story about Rill Romanowski. I was down range and my wife was back at FT Bragg. Bill was doing a book tour and came to see the troops. I told my wife she had to go get an autograph from him. She waits in line in the hot August sun for an hour and finally gets in to see Bill. He signs a football for her (me), then asks her if she wants to try on his superbowl ring. She does, said it was huge. Unfortuantely she didn’t get a picutre. She had he seemed like a really nice guy. She had no idea who he was. Bill offered her a free faiders poster too. She said no thanks, I dont’ think my husband would like that, he is a Broncos fan. He said, " Ah , I can understand that". Oh did I forget to mention she was 8mo pregnant. Great woman!

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Feb 9, 2012 3:23 AM MST reply actions  

yeah the guy is aparantley very unintelligent.

And is also apparently leaving for the draft because of failing grades and constantly had to be told what plays were being run on D by another linebacker. When that linebacker got hurt early in the season (I think it was McGee but not sure) Burfict was on his own and had no one helping him. The results show that he struggled without him. Awesome highlight reels but also whiffs on a lot of tackles and we had enough of that from Mays. I’d hesitate to take him even in the second round. I think some team takes a risk on him in the middle/late 2nd round, definitely not a 1st rounder.

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by Eddie.Teach on Feb 9, 2012 7:52 AM MST reply actions  

In Del Rio I trust

If this is a position of need or a decision based on ‘best player available’ then so be it. I trust our coaching staff to get the most of a player such as Burfict if he’s drafted in the first or second round. We are soft and it takes a player such as Dawkins to add an identity? I’d like to build on Von Miller and get nasty in the middle. Wasn’t Franklin an athlete with limitations and did well his rookie year?

We may have different views on team chemistry and/or philosophy but one has to believe that Burfict will come around with talents such as Bailey, Dumervil, and Von Miller to show the way.

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by dcrespo7 on Feb 10, 2012 7:10 AM MST reply actions  

Depends on where we could get him

If we can get him at the end of the 2nd round then OK, not that much risk and high ceiling, but here are some key differences

Romo was very good in coverage or at least could cover

Vontaze is awful in coverage and likely would be a 2 down player at best

Romo, while a pain in the ass to the opponents, outside of his stint in Oakland, was always considered a good teamate

Vontaze has never been considered that

Romo had a high football IQ

Vontaze has a mediocre football IQ

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by Broncoman on Feb 10, 2012 4:58 PM MST reply actions  

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