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John Fox Vs. Josh McDaniels – 5 Years of Penalties

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The data in the table below tends to be a bit overwhelming when viewed as a whole, but when picked apart it provides a few insites into what may be coaching tendencies &/or failures.

Clicking on a penalty's name will take you to a brief explaination of the infraction.

COACHES>>>

JOHN FOX

JOSH McDANIELS

PENALTY TYPE / YEAR>>>

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

AVG

Offensive Holding

25

22

20

18

17

20.4

False Start

17

12

10

16

21

15.2

Defensive Pass Interference

11

7

7

7

6

7.6

Unnecessary Roughness

11

4

11

11

2

7.8

Defensive Holding

9

7

3

2

2

4.6

Illegal Block Above the Waist

8

-

5

6

3

4.4

Offensive Pass Interference

6

3

1

3

4

3.4

Defensive Offside

5

12

4

4

8

6.6

Face Mask (15 Yards)

5

4

7

7

3

5.2

Illegal Use of Hands

5

3

5

-

2

3

Delay of Game

4

7

10

7

2

6

Neutral Zone Infraction

4

5

6

1

2

3.6

Defensive 12 On-field

3

3

1

1

-

1.6

Encroachment

2

2

5

2

-

2.2

Illegal Contact

2

1

1

1

4

1.8

Illegal Shift

2

1

1

1

2

1.4

Player Out of Bounds on Punt

2

-

1

-

-

0.6

Roughing the Passer

2

6

2

2

2

14

Taunting

2

-

1

-

-

0.6

Unsportsmanlike Conduct

2

1

1

1

5

10

Defensive Delay of Game

1

-

-

-

1

0.4

Illegal Formation

1

2

2

2

1

8

Ineligible Downfield Pass

1

1

-

2

-

0.8

Intentional Grounding

1

-

-

1

1

0.6

Tripping

1

-

-

-

1

0.4

Personal Foul

-

2

2

-

-

0.8

Horse Collar Tackle

-

1

1

-

-

0.4

Illegal Motion

-

1

1

2

1

1

Illegal Touch Pass

-

1

-

-

1

0.4

Interference with Opportunity to Catch

-

1

-

-

-

0.2

Offensive Offside

-

1

-

-

-

0.2

Illegal Touch Kick

-

-

1

-

1

0.4

Ineligible Downfield Kick

-

-

1

-

-

0.2

Offside on Free Kick

-

-

1

-

-

0.2

Chop Block

-

-

-

1

-

0.2

Illegal Blindside Block

-

-

-

-

1

0.2

Running Into the Kicker

-

-

-

-

1

0.2

TOTALS

132

110

111

98

94

109

A coach's likes & dislikes help to shape the philosophies & tendencies that make them unique, and separate them from the others in their craft, for better or for worse. When it comes to penalties this also holds true.

Some coaches detest certain penalties, and their staff will pound that into the players, while others will teach their players the fine art of attempting to get away with certain "cheats". Now, before any of us go all high and mighty on that concept just think about it.

I'm sure many of you have played video games that you can use "cheats" to gain an advantage. Well, believe it or not, that's exactly what is being attempted every day in training camps all around the NFL, and it's been going on for years.

It's just that this coaching philosophy, and the results from it, are becoming more noticable for certain penalties in recent years.

The rule changes that became effective during this time period:

2009 changes; "Blindside" Block is defined. (15 yard penalty) Greater focus on Illegal hits on a Defensless Player (15 yard penalty)

2010 changes; Greater focus on Blows to the head.

2011 changes; Greater focus on Blindside Blocks.

2012 changes; A "crackdown" on Crackback blocks on defensive players.

2013 changes; Peel back blocks are now illegal. (15 yard penalty)

Let's look closer at a few of these penalty from this five year study.

PENALTY TYPE / YEAR>>>

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

AVG

Offensive Holding

25

22

20

18

17

20.4

A quick look at The History of NFL Rules will show you that in 1978 the O-line was first allowed to block with extended arms and open hands thus ushuring in a new "cheat" era for Offensive holding.

O-line guys can all tell you what their best methods are to get away with holds, and there is always someone on EVERY line holding on every play, I guarantee it. It's just that some are NEEDING to hold more than others because they are overmatched.

A glance above might indicate that Fox cares more about his QB than a holding penalty, and I'm sure that's true, but I believe it's more than just that. I believe that this year both C. Clark (7, including two post season) & O. Franklin (7) were overmatched on more than one occasion.

Of Franklin's 7 holds, he had one per game in each game against Oakland and KC, and one against Baltimore, Dallas & Houston. He was overmatched. Clark also had two against Oakland & two against New England. What player were they matched up against?

PENALTY TYPE / YEAR>>>

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

AVG

False Start

17

12

10

16

21

15.2

False start is a coaching problem involving lack of focus, in my opinion, and it's not just the O-line who's to blame. Beadles was the worst with 4, and Vasquez had 3, but Recievers, TE's & RB's get called as well.

It's obvious by the progression over the past three years that enough attention isn't placed on the issue. Even Moreno had one in 2013.

PENALTY TYPE / YEAR>>>

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

AVG

Defensive Pass Interference

11

7

7

7

6

7.6

Defensive Holding

9

7

3

2

2

4.6

These two seem like they are related in a way since most of the infractions are charged to Defensive Backs. This is the group that I think are being taught as "cheats" just like Offensive holding has been for years.

Prediction? It's going to get a lot worse before it get's better, if it ever does get better that is. As for the rest of the penalty stats in this table, I'll be covering them in future articles based upon the offense, defense & special teams reports.

COACHES>>>

JOHN FOX

JOSH McDANIELS

PENALTY TYPE / YEAR>>>

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

AVG

TOTALS

132

110

111

98

94

109

It apears from a very short shot at a Head Coaching gig, "The Josh Crew" may have been a little more dilligent in their focus on penalties, but I doubt it!

When we think about the huge turn over in player personel during the past three years, I'm more inclined to think that the changes in penalty types and frequency are more determined on the difference in playes than anything else. After all, O Franklin never played for Mc Daniels!

Next up, a nitty gritty focus on offense.

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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