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Broncos @ Lions Fourth Quarter Open Thread

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Date: Sunday, November 4, 2007

Time: 11:00 p.m. MST

Teams: Denver Broncos (3-4) at Detroit Lions (5-2)

Location: Ford Field - Detroit, MI

       

Broncos Ninth Drive cont....
--The Broncos are in real danger of being shut out...That hasn't happened since 1992...
--The Broncos are trying to change that, but everytime they begin to move Shaun Rogers gets another sack....
--Another first down for the Broncos, a pass to Brandon Marshall converts the 4th and 1...
--Shaun Rogers intercepts Patrick Ramsey and runs it all the way back for a TD. The bleeding continues....
Touchdown Lions -- Lions 37 - Broncos 0

Broncos Tenth Drive --

--So, do you guys still want to listen to me rant after the Colts/Pats game???Post your answer in the comments...
--The Broncos have bottomed out...It can't get any worse...it really can't...
--The Shanahan-bashers have to be loving this...I mean, REALLY LOVING IT!
--Another defensive TD, this time on the fumble by Tony Scheffler....
--It will be challenged...It's close...
--The replay I saw looks like a fumble to me...why not...If you are going to hit rock bottom, HIT ROCK BOTTOM!!!
--It should be a fumble, then down by contact, either way, it is going to be Lions Ball...
--That is now made official, and the Broncos have turned it over for the 3rd time today...

Lions Ninth Drive --

--Somewhere, Tatum Bell and George Foster are smiling from ear to ear...
--Now D.J. Williams is hurt.....Whatever the off-season training regimen is needs to change, and fast...
--The Lions are trying to run out the clock, and the Broncos line up off-side...
--Then the Lions fumble, Duckett picks it up and runs it 20 yards inside the 5....
--Then Duckett runs it in for the TD....Touchdown Lions -- Lions 44 - Broncos 0

Broncos Eleventh Drive --

--Can the Broncos score?? That is the only question remaining...
--The drive will start from the 40, but quickly moves backwards after an offensive pass interference...
--236 games in a row the Broncos have scored. 4th longest in history...and it looks to be coming to an end today...
--Graham picks up 21 and a first down. Where was that when the game was in question...
--Vikings look like they will shock the Chargers, and the Packers look like they will beat the Chiefs...All this, and the Broncos will still only be 1 game out of first place....Ugh!
--Another first down, and the Broncos are inside the 30
--Inside the 20 now, the second trip for the Broncos today...
--Another offensive penalty on Brandon Marshall....
--A penalty on the Lions should give the Broncos a first and goal inside the 5
--First and Goal at the 2 -- Ramsey throws to Stokley for the Touchdown...The Lions will challenge it, hoping to hold on to the shut-out...
--The replay shows it is a Touchdown, despite Rich Gannon's objections...
--Touchdown Broncos - Lions 44 - Broncos 7

--Something tells me the quality of football is going to go up drastically in the late game...Time to change channels...

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WR MARTINEZ IS IN AS QB
And kicking ass so far!  What the hell?
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

more freaking gamecast errors!
I should have known better.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This is so sad.
We are playing, desperately, mind you, for a field goal.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:40 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Shaun Rogers
doesn't just make sacks...he also returns INTs for TDs.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:40 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

And now it's time to ask a sad question.
What's the NFL record score for a shut out (in the modern era)?
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

depends what you mean by modern
Bears beat the Skins 73-0 in 1940.

Giants beat Minnesota 41-0 in 2000.

Those is also a playoff game that was 41-0 and another that was 38-0.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 1:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

KC and SD both losing too.
Not that being only a game back seems to matter right now.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Humiliating

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 1:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

What kind of team
can't step up in the face of a shutout?

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

a team that's given up.
That's it.  These guys are too demoralized.  But they only have themselves to blame.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

GURU
The show must go on!  Besides, we can always talk Pats/Colts.

Stepping up must start somewhere, and it starts right here at MHR!!

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

We are challenging a play
So that we don't go down 44-0. How sad have things gotten? Shannahan has some serious and i mean SERIOUS explaining to do on how he has let it get this bad. I'm not calling for him to be fired, but wow am I close.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 1:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I just had my Wife
slap the shit out of me.

I thought it might wake me up from this nightmare.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:49 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe I am still watching...
I will not be online for any post-game live show.  I dont see any need to talk about this game.  We are officially a bottom-feeder of a football team.

Forget the comparisons to the 1995 Broncos...this is the friggin 1999 Broncos, except worse!

by Tim Lynch on Nov 4, 2007 1:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The show
will be on after the Pats/colts game if Guru does it.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, Zappa...
I'll be doing the show...We need to come up with solutions, not re-hash the problems, and that starts tonight...

by John Bena on Nov 4, 2007 1:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

On Shannahan
This may not be the best time to say it, but I'm not going to give up on a coach with Mike's record over one very sorry season.

Bad coaches don't have Mike's records and history.  They sometimes have bad teams, but it can be corrected in the offseason.

It's entirely to ealry to call for Mike's head.  We're pretty spoiled having the high expectations we do, and part of it is Mike's great coaching.

Sincerely,
Shannahan's Mother

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

My final post for today...
I agree with you.  Mike has never had two losing seasons in a row and this ship has too much talent to just be thrown away after one season.  I will not call for any firings until the middle of next year if the Broncos have another 3-5 start. ;)  What an embarrassing game...probably the Lions first shutout in 146 years.  Sick

by Tim Lynch on Nov 4, 2007 1:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Greg Jennings zaps another AFC West team
a 60 yard TD this time.  GB up 23-22 with 3 to go.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 1:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I think you were the one who said it earlier
but we need to wrap Bly, Bailey and a few others in bubble wrap to make sure they don't suffer a freak injury while standing on the sideline.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 1:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Guru - agree about Foster
not so sure about T Bell.  he has to be pissed that he isn't getting a shot to run all over them (and that he's not playing at all)

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 1:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Bell
might ahve been able to get his career on track in this game.  He must have too much Bronco in him still.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

"Drive of the Game"
The trip to or from the stadium, no doubt.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

has to be the Elam missed FG
set the tone perfectly for the whole game.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 1:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm begining to wonder about conditioning
Why are so many guys getting hurt?  I know it's not a grass field, but none of the DET guys seem to be getting hurt, and our injuries have been high for several games now.

Anyone?

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This has bothered me since
the start of 06.  Denver used to have a top 5 conditioning program, and now you never hear about it.  Something is amiss.  Plus I think that a team where everyone is playing tentatively (be it contracts, unfamiliarity with scheme, teammates, whatever), is a team that is prone to getting run over by others.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 1:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about this
while reading TSG's post about the Broncos draft woes from 2000-2005.  Among the players we drafted, there seemed to be an unusually high number of training camp injuries.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 2:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

At a certain point
injuries can't be considered an anomaly.

It is time for some of that crack journalism from the Post, some deep undercover work to ferret out the story.

Oh, wait.  I guess not our Post...

Maybe the MHR needs to create a Department of Espionage to break this story...

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm planning a diary
I'm going to address what I think this year's problem is.  The basic idea is that you have a lot of new players and a new scheme put together and you SHOULD expect a rough start but a great 2nd half of the season.  But I think the players had high expectations based on the name power of so many of our players we brought in that the early losses came as a shock.

I think the team got demoralized when they probably should have had more realistic expectations for the first half of the season.  You can see it in their comments ("We have a real good team.  We just need to practice more and shake out the little things").  They didn't expect to lose so many games during the early transistion, and I think this killed them.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I like this angle
We usually think of the fans as drinking the kool-aid, but there is no reason why the players and even coaches can't be exempt from this same mindset.  I see this as being quite true in regards to a guy like lynch who is probably one of the most reasonable guys in football being blinded by the light of Rice.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

NE would go for the 2 pt conversion here.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 1:58 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Great observation
fromt he sideline reporter.

"No emotion on the Broncos sideline."

If they don't care if they lose, why should anyone else?

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:00 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

GB leads and has the ball
under 3 min left, almost in the redzone.

KC and SD in trouble.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

2 min warning
looks like KC will lose.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone see what happened to Chad Johnson?
I just saw the gamecast said he was removed fromthe field on an ambulance.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 2:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Graham
is making a habit of showing up when it doesn't matter.  He is on my shitlist, no doubt about it...

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:05 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Marshall, illegal block in the back
Are we going to score?

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Pass interference
Looks like we won't get shut out. But you never know. This is the 2007 Broncos after all.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yay. The Broncos score!!!!!!!!!
Ramsey to Stokely. (if the challenge is upheld)

Just realized we are starting a pair of WR named Brandon.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 2:09 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Who knew
Stokely woudl be the guy challenging TSG's preseason locks...

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy Crap!1
We still have a chance!

Whoops, Lions challenging...:)

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:09 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh yippee we got a touchdown
All is forgiven.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The review of the play
is kind of running up the score.

I think the right move is to let Denver have a score and run out the game.  Still, it's not as evil as how NE runs up scores.

I hate NE.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

GB intercepts, scores TD
GB beats KC
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:12 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This game should have been a shutout
If a single person in the locker room says "at least we weren't shut out" I will drop kick my computer.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:12 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait to watch some real football
Pats and Colts should be a fun one.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:13 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

SD is going to lose too.
GUYS!  WE'RE STILL ONLY A GAME BACK!  WE HAVE A SHOT AT GETTING OUR BUTTS KICKED IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm going
to repost my "Nothing much has changed" diary.  Because, well, nothing much has changed.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol
nothing better than maintaining foolishly unreasonable hope.

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 2:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We are not winning the division
That I am sure of. We won't have to worry about the playoffs this year. Playoffs?!?!? We have absolutely zero chance in Arrowhead next week and I honestly don't see us winning more then 5 games this year. This just just a horrnedous football team.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

farewell all.
I almost made it through the whole game.  But the family is itching to get out.  Can't say I blame them.

Anyone contemplating suicide can call my answering service.  I'm on call tonight.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm haning
in there for the post game interviews.
take it easy HT.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'll catch Guru's post up on the interviews.
Right now I need a few drinks.  lol

Take it easy.  There's more to life than football (but only when your team gets thumped).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 4, 2007 2:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Post game interviews
Should be interesting. But I have a feeling they won't be. Just a lot of cliche coach speak.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Adrian Peterson 296 rushing yds
new NFL record.  (30 carries, 3 TD's)

by MattR on Nov 4, 2007 2:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

That guy is unreal
I remember salivating at the thought of him becoming a Bronco but realized he would go way too soon in the draft for that to be a reality.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Marshall has
some good comments after the game:

"I don't care if we scored.  It was a loss no matter what."

And then his response when Doc indicated they were still alive in the AFC west are great.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2007 2:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

He's right
I mean, what does it really matter? They got spanked either way. Sure it shows some pride but what's 7 points when you give up 44? It was funny him asking Diaz Infante what happens if they win the rest of their division games but none of the rest. Marshall didn't even know how many games back they are.

by Make It Rain on Nov 4, 2007 2:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was the one who said
wrap Bly, Bailey, and a few others up. D.J. got hurt too? we only have probably 30 guys healthy for next week.
"I will never be upset if the Broncos go for the win and lose. You play for the win."-TSG 11/1/07 "The Browns will be .500"-TSG 8/12/07 MHR Radio

by broncodude793 on Nov 4, 2007 2:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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