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Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders - 'Just Beat The Damn Raiders' - Game Day Open Thread

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Date: Sunday, December 2, 2007

Time: 2:05 p.m. MST

Teams: Denver Broncos (5-6, 2nd in AFC West) at Oakland Raiders (3-8, 4th Place in AFC West)

Location: Some Crap Hole in Oakland, CA

       

Broncos Inactives --

WR Glenn Martinez
RB Andre Hall
FB Mike Bell
CB Jeff Shoate
OL Isaac Snell
DE Larry Birdine
DE Paul Carrington
QB Darrell Hackney - In uniform as the #3 QB

Notes -- When is the last time the Broncos had Javon Walker and Travis Henry??  They will today.  It could be the last time for awhile as well....

Raiders Inactives --

QB Daunte Culpepper
RB Dominic Rhodes
CB John Bowie
SS Jarrod Cooper
C Jake Grove
T Seth Wand
DT Josh Shaw
QB Andrew Walter (3rd QB)

Notes -- With Culpepper officially ruled out, could today be the day JaMarcus Russell makes his debut?  I wouldn't be surprised...

       

FIRST QUARTER --

Raiders First Drive -

--The Broncos have dropped to this. Not even an HD game on Sunday Ticket. That's a sad state of affairs...
--The Broncos continue to be undisciplined, giving the Raiders a free first down. This is really, really getting old...
--The Raiders are a team that are looking for any reason to fold....Give them some confidence, however, and watch out...
--Another first down, and the Raiders are doing well what the Broncos cannot stop - run the ball...
--Fargas is picking up huge chunks of yards now, and that doesn't bode well...
--Run, Run, first down, repeat...
--The Broncos would do well just to hold the Raiders to 3 now...
--Cecil Sapp's mental miscue leads to a TD for the Raiders and just like that the Broncos are behind. RAIDERS 7 - Broncos 0

Broncos First drive --

--I might not be the only one that had the wind taken out of me last Sunday. The Broncos look flat and disinterested early...
--A three and out is the last thing we need. If we can't convert a 3rd and 8 here we'll be in that situation..
--Brandon Marshall is simply a beast. There is no question I am getting a #15 jersey...
--Two plays to Sapp are about 2 too many...
--Selvin Young shows he's healthy, a nice run brings up a third and short...
--About a 1/2 yard, and now the Raiders best DB's Asomugha, leaves the field. Broncos need to take a shot deep..
--The ole'e option pitch to Young gets another first down and the Broncos have answered the Raider TD nicely...
--Henry's first carry nets another first down and has the Broncos inside the 20
--Henry again, and the guys calling the game for CBS, two guys I have never heard before, state that Henry is expected to go 10-15 plays today...
--Rare drop by Marshall will force the Broncos into another 3rd and 8
--Great pass by Cutler to Selvin Young for the First down....
--Young took a hard shot on the tackle and remains on the ground....
--Henry returns with the Broncos at the 7, first and goal...
--FIRST AND GOAL - Henry runs it up the middle for 3 yards
--SECOND AND GOAL - Henry up the middle, TOUCHDOWN BRONCOS!!!
--Solid job by the Broncos offense to answer the Raiders early score....BRONCOS 7 - Raiders 7

Raiders Second Drive --

--Can we stop a running back from getting 3 or 4 yards after first contact. Some fundamental tackling would be nice to see...
--That's better....

END OF FIRST QUARTER -- BRONCOS 7 - Raiders 7

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Anyone remember
what Martinez' ding was?  Wasn't it a sore chest or something?

His deactivation may be a vote of confidence in Walker's healthy return.  

And if Walker's return isn't so healthy?  Sapp and Selvin Young lined up at wideout.  I mean, who else do we have?

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 1:42 PM MST   0 recs

Jacobs...
We have Jacobs backing up at WR....

Anyone else worried?

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 1:44 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Great pregame reading
If anyone wants to, get over to Sundquist's blog and check out his latest entry on "draft philosophy".

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 1:49 PM MST   0 recs

Biggest injury hits
Denver will miss Martinez (good on STs when he catches the ball - lol; and good as a #3 or 4 #WR), and obviously Hall at RB (Good on STs and as a HB).  Martinez may develop into a solid slot or #2 someday.

Culpepper is a loss for the raiders, but I think it might be easy to overlook Cooper.  He's a back-up SS, but excellent on STs.  I'd like to see Cooper get more playing time at SAF (except that he is with a rival team).  I think the raider's are under using his talents.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:00 PM MST   0 recs

Temporary leave
I'll be driving out to my in-laws in a little bit to do some house sitting for the week.  I'll be around on MHR, but I might be absent for the 1st quarter.  See you all in a bit.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:02 PM MST   0 recs

Sapp
We really could have done without that penalty. Shooting ourselves in the foot is getting old.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:14 PM MST   0 recs

Phantom
It was a phantom call. There was minimum and I mean minimum contact. What I saw was Fatty fall backwards over Sapp

by binford04 on Dec 2, 2007 2:16 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

I'm in NY
and TV-less, so I have to rely on the NFL Gameday thing. They're starting their what, third-string QB, we can't stop Fargas, and the Raiders already have a TD... not good.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:17 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

I too am relying on Gameday
shooting ourselves in the foot again, nice.

by Donkey on Dec 2, 2007 2:19 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

If Eli Manning and the Giants
beat Rex the Sex Cannon and the Bears today... I'm going to be annoyed.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:21 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

New York in da house
I'm guessing you love watching the Jets and Giants as much as I do :)

Frustrating start to this game.  Seems like a microcosm of the entire season.

by MattR on Dec 2, 2007 2:23 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Well, I'm a born-and-raised Coloradoan
who's on the East Coast for school. Generally, I laugh at the Jets and sometimes feel sorry for the Giants (I think E. Manning hates his job and can't quit because of his name). The rest of the time, I laugh at them too.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:24 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Young
Hey, he's back.

Aaaaaand we're starting at the 16. Good.

by binford04 on Dec 2, 2007 2:20 PM MST   0 recs

One yard at a time...
and another confounded right-up-the-middle running play? Great, Shanny. Do your thing.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:23 PM MST   0 recs

Damn Marshall
That boy is good.

by binford04 on Dec 2, 2007 2:23 PM MST   0 recs

He's making it very hard
for me to buy a Dumervil jersey.  I might have to flip a coin.

by MattR on Dec 2, 2007 2:25 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Marshall
Is an "after-the-catch" nightmare!!!

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:23 PM MST   0 recs

What's going on
with the one-yard passes (the Cutler/Marshall 32-yard beauty exempt?)

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:25 PM MST   0 recs

You heard it here first
Brandon Marshall will be our #1 next year.
"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:26 PM MST   0 recs

Red Zone alert
Get it done guys.  No turnovers!

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:27 PM MST   0 recs

silverblood
those short "up the middle" runs aren't fan pleasers, but they are important.  We're trying to spread the defense around the field early to set them up later.  It's a neccassary evil.  Occasionaly one of those runs will break big, but we are also setting up the passing game.  Give it time.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:27 PM MST   0 recs

Okay
I hate being TV-less.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:28 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Hey look
Our running game may be working. Either that, or Shanny doesn't want Cutler to air out the cannon yet?

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:27 PM MST   0 recs

Henry
is the red zone back so far

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:28 PM MST   0 recs

Hey look,
we're in the redzone again...

The only way we score TD's is from 30+ yards out. =)

"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:28 PM MST   0 recs

3 and 8 in the red zone
Come on, guys. Dagnabbit.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:29 PM MST   0 recs

Red zone
drop.  not a drop between the 20s.  A red zone drop.

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:29 PM MST   0 recs

MattR
Go ahead and get both jerseys.  Tell your wife I said you could have them both.  I need you to tell my wife I can have my dream pc for Christams too.  lol
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:29 PM MST   0 recs

sounds like a plan
except I only have to convince my dog.  And since her name is Elway I don't think she'll mind.

by MattR on Dec 2, 2007 2:35 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

1st and goal!
Henry or Cutler?  Vote now!!

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:30 PM MST   0 recs

Young down!
Snaps! That was quick.

by binford04 on Dec 2, 2007 2:30 PM MST   0 recs

alright
come on, get 7

by Donkey on Dec 2, 2007 2:30 PM MST   0 recs

Marshall!!!
"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:30 PM MST   0 recs

Do one of the L.T. plays
Pitch it right and then the rb throws for a score.
"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:31 PM MST   0 recs

I wish Beyonce would stop hawking DirectTV HD
Just a silly commercial. She's hot though.

by binford04 on Dec 2, 2007 2:32 PM MST   0 recs

Any of you tv or radio guys have word on Young?
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:32 PM MST   0 recs

Second and goal
Get it done, guys.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:33 PM MST   0 recs

In other news...
A.P. continues to prove he is a beast...

Peyton Manning is being Peyton...

and...

The Chargers won.

"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:33 PM MST   0 recs

TD Henry!!
He did stuff!

by binford04 on Dec 2, 2007 2:33 PM MST   0 recs

Who is our next no name rb
to have a big game...?
"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:33 PM MST   0 recs

Hooray!
Nice job, everybody. Tied.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:34 PM MST   0 recs

Henry
Mother effin henry
"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:34 PM MST   0 recs

I feel good about this game.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:34 PM MST   0 recs

It was important to show that we could come back
from the Sapp-penalty-induced TD right away.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:35 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Hopefully we knocked off the hangover
from last week.  Playing Oakland probably helped the team refocus on this week and get over that terrible loss to the Bears.

by MattR on Dec 2, 2007 2:38 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

I was home for Thanksgiving last week
Let's just say I haven't yelled at the TV that much in a long time.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:38 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Of course you were back in CO
since the Broncos were actually televised in NY :)

Although I really should stop bitching.  At least I have the Internet.  This article from Bill Simmons at ESPN is a nice reminder of things to be thankful for as a sports fan in 2007.

by MattR on Dec 2, 2007 2:44 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

how about that
they run up the middle and actually get into the end zone

by Donkey on Dec 2, 2007 2:34 PM MST   0 recs

Huge
up the gut

bust a nut

gets a TD

Just like TD

by styg50 Faulkner

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:36 PM MST   0 recs

good news folks
ARIZ beating CLE 14-0
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:36 PM MST   0 recs

and a touchback?
wow. Where was that last week.
"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:36 PM MST   0 recs

I am so glad
Devin Hester is no longer on the same field as Todd Sauerbrun.... gives me the wigguns.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:36 PM MST   0 recs

Let's keep
the mental mistakes to a minimum guys.

Those kind of stupid things are for the faders.

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:37 PM MST   0 recs

for styg
"It is a far, far better thing we (just) did than we have ever done; a far, far better place we go than we have ever been" HT Dickens
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:37 PM MST   0 recs

heading out the door guys...
...back in about 35 to 40 minutes.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 2, 2007 2:38 PM MST   0 recs

CBs
Playing press coverage, not the typical million yards off the line coverage we're all used to.

Working so far, because they're just running.

by binford04 on Dec 2, 2007 2:39 PM MST   0 recs

LBs
leading the team in tackles right now.

by styg50 on Dec 2, 2007 2:39 PM MST   0 recs

Gasp
we stopped Fargas.
"Uh Playoffs? We'll talk about playoffs? You kiddin me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a damn game." -Jim Mora http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM

by broncodude793 on Dec 2, 2007 2:40 PM MST   0 recs

Please don't let him become
You-Know-Who from last week.

by Silverblood on Dec 2, 2007 2:41 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

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