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Ted Ginn Jr. -- Reader Review


Would Ginn Look Good in Orange and Blue? Plain and simple, what would your reaction be if Denver ended up selecting Ted Ginn in the first round?  The consensus I get at other boards is hardly positive, but I'm wondering what ya'll think (didn't want to hijack K TempesT's thread too much).

Basically, I would not be opposed to Ginn at all, especially if Branch, Moss, etc. were either unavailable or no longer necessary (Jenkins, Rogers, etc.).  I really like what he brings to this team, both as a returner and as a receiver.

PRO'S:

1.  "Speed at receiver."

Ginn would bring a new skillset to the receiving corps.  Marshall, Walker, Rod, and Stokely are all strong intermediate and short-route runners.  While both Walker and Marshall are capable of making the deep reception, they are often contested because they don't have the true long-speed necessary to separate.

Ginn would give us a true field-stretcher and open up a lot of other options, on the field and in the playbook.  One can only imagine how he would do paired up with Cutler's arm.  Look at how Bernard Berrian exploded onto the scene this year...and now look at his quarterback.  Look at our quarterback...and picture him throwing to Ginn.  Got it?  To be honest, I'm beginning to get the sense that people underrate his speed and explosiveness and how they could translate to the NFL playing field.

I've long been a proponent for adding more depth at WR through this year's draft.  While I don't see the glaring need I once did, Stokely looks like a typical one year rental and Rod's clearly on his last legs.

2. "Return ability."

We all know how bad our return units were last year, and have been for some time now. Despite the re-signing of Quincy Morgan, I think it's blatantly obvious and upgrade could be made.

There's no doubt in my mind that Ginn's return skills will translate to the pro game.

In 2005, Chicago's return units were below league average.  Add Devin Hester, and you suddenly have the premier ST unit in the NFL.  Chicago's special teams went from costing their team points to actually being worth 19 (kick return) and 12 ( punt return) points in scoring, to their offense, above the average NFL special teams unit (Football outsiders).  Better field position equates to more points scored, period.

CON'S:

1. "Does he fit?"

With the signing of Daniel Graham, leaving us with two quality TE's, there's obviously reason to believe that we may be returning to the 2 TE sets of the Sharpe/Carswell/Chamberlain days.  Scheffler can shift outside or into the slot, as well.

Domenik Hixon could put the kibosh on this entire idea, too.  Maybe the FO views him as the answer?  At any rate, he's an unknown quantity to me, so I can't really look at him as an impact (or non-impact) player at this moment.

Even though I've seen some say that we ran 3 WR sets 50% of the time after Cutler took over, I'm a little hesitant here.

2. "One dimensionality."

While I always cringe at anti-Ginn's screaming "He's another Lelie!" at every opportunity (simply because it's unoriginal...heh), I can't deny the possibility.  Off the top of my head, the slim speedster-type hasn't had a great track-record in the league, so far.

But, even if Ginn doesn't surpass the Lelie-ceiling (or "floor", however you want to look at it), I still think his return ability will balance some of the negative.  And, if properly used, I don't see how being a Lelie with excellent return ability is so inherently bad, anyways.  It's not the greatest possible outcome (I was thinking Lee Evans with return skillz is pretty darn good), but it's not the worst thing in the world either (I must say, I was a bit of a Lelie homer). I actually think he has more ability to catch the short pass than Lelie did, and then do something with it with his outrageous open-field ability.

Summary:

Simply put, I see Ginn as a package of Devin Hesteresque return skills with years of experience at WR.

If Devin Hester played 3 years of WR at Miami, would you spend a first rounder on him?  Do you value the boost to the return game and his potential at WR, or are you DL 8 days a week?

Just wondering.

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For me....
I would love Ginn to be a Bronco because I think he would have a Hestor-esque effect on our special teams, and Hestor won at least 2, maybe 3 games for the Bears last season, and that's huge.  It would also keep Ginn away from our division rivals, and KC picked him in the SBNation Mock.

One reason for the current poll on teh site was to check this very scenario.  Trade up, trade down, or get the best athlete available.  Ginn would surely be that, if one of the DE/DT's aren't there at 21...

-TSG www.thesportsguru.com www.milehighreport.com

by TheSportsGuru on Apr 10, 2007 4:58 AM MDT   0 recs

Agreed
If there are no compelling DLs of safeties available, I would have no problem drafting Ginn at 21. I don't think its worth trading up to get him and it might be worth trading up to get one of those top DE/DTs, but I agree that it'd be better to draft Ginn than to reach for a lower tier DE/DT to fill a need.

by bushwah on Apr 10, 2007 8:37 AM MDT   0 recs

couldn't have said it better myself
If Ginn falls to 21, and with Moss' character issues, he would be a better fit.  I'd rather see us  move up for Anderson or Adams, but I don't know if Shanny could resist Ginn if he fell that far.

And like the Post said: Bates makes D-Linemen better.  Our 3 "main" DE's all had about 7 sacks...

R.I.P. Darrent & Damien, 1982-2007. Bronco Talk http://broncotalk.net

by K TempesT on Apr 10, 2007 10:26 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

ginn worked out today
Looks like Ginn worked out today and ran a 4.38 40-time. Just some extra food for thought - apparently he felt healthy enough to run. He ran a few times then stopped because his foot was bothering him. Marvin Lewis, Cam Cameron, and Scott Linehan were all in attendance (Head Coaches of Cincinnati, Miami, and St. Louis respectively). All this according to Sirius NFL Radio.
R.I.P. Darrent & Damien, 1982-2007. Bronco Talk http://broncotalk.net

by K TempesT on Apr 11, 2007 4:07 PM MDT   0 recs

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