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REPORT: Broncos and Dewayne Robertson Have Deal In Place

Newsday's Tom Rock is "told" that the Broncos already have a new contract for DT Dewayne Robertson in place.

Rock guesses that the Broncos and Jets will work out a draft-day deal, most likely involving a second-day pick. The second day now involves rounds three through seven, but it's doubtful the Jets could get more than a fifth-rounder.

http://blogs.trb.com/sports/football/jets/blog/2008/04/the_rhodes_ripples.html

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Honestly what Draft pick do you think broncos will give jets?
4th round
26 votes
5th round
58 votes
6th round
28 votes
7th round
9 votes

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I like it!
Im cool with this.  I actually think Shannahan might have a plan in place where if he can get the DT he wants early in the draft he wont make the deal.  But if not this is his back up plan.

I think DR would be a very solid upgrade to the Broncos front 4.

by rock34 on Apr 10, 2008 11:33 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

if
we can get him down to 2 mil in base salary then get him anyway

by vietminh55 on Apr 10, 2008 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry
Story doesnt sound real enough to me. I think this is just speculation and hope. just like some people HOPE we trade bly or HOPE that walker bombs. (by the way side note on walker, KMART (Nuggets) had micro fracture surgery and hes pretty damn good still.)I think this is hope by a Jets fan that we take their garbage. I would be okay with him but I dont think he's worth a pick. Sorry just my opinion.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 10, 2008 11:53 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Jets Fan
I read the following on another site recently:
Jets fan here. Robertson's injury concerns are completely overblown. They guy has missed only a handful of games during his career, and they were for an unrelated injury. His knee issue was known when he was drafted, yet he has been a 5 year starter who hardly ever leaves the field.
Interesting how each of the teams who are alleged to be interested - Broncos, Bengals, Panthers, Lions etc - seem to want to sign him anyway if he is cut. So it seems they all agree he IS healthy enough to play...hardly a surprise since he hasn't missed a game for 2 years, and has started well over 90% of Jets games (not 80% as Shanny claims) over the last 5 years.
Whoever gets Robertson - even if it costs them some mid-level picks - will be getting a steal. The guy is big, young (26) and talented. He stays in the field and he produces, especially in a 4-3 scheme which allows him to shoot the gaps. He's just been a square peg in a round hole as a NT in the Jets' 3-4 scheme, which is a waste of his undoubted talents.

I realize this guy is just a fan like me, but if he is right and Robertson can play that one technique position and stuff the run this could really be a big deal.

by firstfan on Apr 10, 2008 12:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I admit
he is talented my worry is what it will "COST" us in the way of draft compensation. I say we sign him if he gets cut cause then we have more room to work but trading a draft pick away is not what we want to do. I would like to see the Bengals sign him, that could leave Ellis on the board a bit longer and maybe get us a high profile priority pick.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 10, 2008 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis over Robertson
I certainly agree that we do not want to overspend for possibly damaged goods in Robertson. But if Ellis is going to cost us our 1st, 4th and 5th round picks, well I just don't know.
I also agree that something doesn't sound exactly kosher in the story. "...he was told". I wonder by whom.

by firstfan on Apr 10, 2008 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

This trade
got lip service from Klis at the Post as well, in a recent note attached to one of his stories.  He sounded like he was quoting a team source, the same source that told him Denver is actively pursuing trades down from #12 already.
I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 10, 2008 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think
we will be okay with out DRob! I think if Cincy gets him Ellis will last a bit longer because the chiefs will go Offense (speculation here) I think we may have trade a 4 or 5 with our #12 but not both. I dunno I was just throwing it out there. A lot of times teams are willing to take a vet over an unproven rookie despite how talented the rookie may be because the vet is proven. I say let cincy or carolina make the push for him. That leaves us a few nice Defensive guys out there. While I'm on I think Ill pose the question, Draft Derric Harvey and move Crowder inside permanently? any thoughts?
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 10, 2008 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No on Crowder
This is purely opinion, but my school of thought is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Crowder IS capable of playing at DT, so my opinion is just an opinion.  But Crowder's natural fit is at DE, and he has done well there.  I would only move Crowder if there was a disasterous drought at DT due to injuries.

The depth chart needs several rotational DEs who are more "bull rush" and run stop oriented than the speedy pass rushers.  Guys like Eng, Eck, and Crowder wear down faster in the game, while Doom and Moss can play a bit longer.  I think we already have excellence and depth, but a team only needs one or two pass rushers at DE, and the rest of the DEs should be the (less spectacular but equaly important) big dogs.

As far as taking Harvey goes, I lean against it but Guru did make a very compelling case.  If we take Harvey I would hope to use him as bait for a draft day trade.  In a worse case scenario we still have an excellent (extra) DE.

So "No" on moving Crowder, "toss-up" on taking Harvey.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 10, 2008 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thought too but...
I figured I would ask seeing as we are all pretty much agreed that we need a DT
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 10, 2008 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too Small
At 275 I would think Crowder is too small to play that run-stopping one technique guy we need inside. I also think he has GREAT upside for us on the end. Crowder on one side, DOOM on the other could be a good combination on third and long.

by firstfan on Apr 11, 2008 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing 4th rounder
not based on personal evaluation of the player, but upon evaluation of the situation.

That being said, Denver could target DT Ahtyba Rubin with their high first rounder, if he falls that far.  Could Denver be holding off on the deal to see when and if Rubin is selected before they pick?

My guess is if Rubin is available with their first pick in the fourth round, the deal with Robertson may be off.  Early indications are that that won't be so, and Rubin will go late in the third.

A similar situation exists for DT Guion in the sixth, and DT Hayden in the sixth, though both of those prospects are much rawer.  Also in the fifth are DT Dykes and DT Harrison, both mentioned with gusto by Tom Marino.  34 year Pro Scout, Tom Marino, mentioned in his interview with Guru that he thought Guion would be a top player against the run down the road, and could be a sleeper.

So I'm figuring a fourth rounder since Rubin alone would be the prospect that Denver might be targeting where there isn't a propspect with similar value at the same position close by as a consolation prize.

In terms of Robertson himself, I would love it if Denver accompanied a pick like Rubin with Robertson as a later pick, since except for McKinley, all we have on the line, (and expect to ahve at this point) are unproven guys with little or no NFL game experience.  

Is he worth more than Rubin?  I think so, but getting Rubin in the fourth and Robertson for a fifth or sixth would be the best of both worlds.

I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 10, 2008 1:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

AHTYW@#RXZBA Rubin
Styg50,

I've never even heard of this Rubin guy before. There is no way this guy is a first rounder, you're on drugs.

I haven't even seen a mock draft with this guys name in it. What school did he go to? Think Trevor Laws bro. He is who we're going to target with the 42nd.

N/a

by kwool79 on Apr 10, 2008 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think STYG
said to pick Ruben up in the 4th.  Or am I reading it wrong?

by Tim Lynch on Apr 10, 2008 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh...styg has a typo I think
In the first paragraph he said he wanted to target Ruben with our high first rounder...I believe he meant our high 4th rounder as stated in the last paragraph. :)

by Tim Lynch on Apr 10, 2008 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice catch guys
yep, kwool, its just a typo:  on my board Rubin should go in the very late 3rd round...

It woudl be awesome if we could edit commnets.  This wans't my first mistake and it won't be my last...:)

I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 10, 2008 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No drugs kwool79
Styg just made a typing error.  He meant fourth round.  Ruben is a fourth round possibility at DT who is seen by several people (myself included) as being a potential steal with a lot of potential.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 10, 2008 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

no drugs
Yeah I guess I shouldn't have over reacted. I Have been researching all potential day one DTs and I've never heard of this guy.

What makes him such a potential steal? Where did he go to school? What are his triangle numbers?

Thanks professor!

N/a

by kwool79 on Apr 10, 2008 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ruben
There is a really good article on DTs in later rounds by R8erh8er.

http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2008/4/8/101221/5648

Follow the links in his diary.  One of them breaks down the DTs in mid and later rounds.  R8erh8er does a terrific job in that link talking about the different DTs and why they eserve a second look.

(We all can get a little over zealous from time to time.  Just be glad that "big" Styg the commercial fisherman is living far, far away in the Alaskan wilderness where he kills bears with his bare hands and eats their salmon too!)  LOL

: )

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 10, 2008 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget...
the massive hydroelctric turbine he's got in his barn either.  If the crap hits the fan in the lower 48, I know where I'm goin!  :D  I'll play the "But we're Bronco brothers man, let me stay!" card.  heheh

by Tim Lynch on Apr 10, 2008 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I look it too
my wife left for five weeks without giving me a (much needed at the time) haircut, and I haven't shaved to kind of balance out the image, so yeah, I look like a typical Alaskan grizzlywrestler.

That all changes this Sunday!  Shave and a haircut, coming up!

I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 10, 2008 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm
The Jets might want to know if the deal is "on" already before draftday. I'm guessing they would wnt to know before they pick at #6 - if they are trading DR ellis becomes a possibillity i 1st round

don't ya think?

From Denmark, so i excuse my self for un-knowing-ness...

by Claaaaas on Apr 10, 2008 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis
would be another Robertson. He's a 4-3 Player and the Jets are a 3-4 team. Ellis like DRob excell with another DT busting through the line with them.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 10, 2008 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great take
I think the Robertson move sheds more light on some of the mysterious reloading season goings on.

More on this in my story this weekend.  In short, the alleged deal with the NYJ makes a lot of sense.  I think draft day will answer almost all of the weird situations (OL, DT, WR, SAF, Hamza, Myers, Lynch) we've been trying to figure out.

Oh, and did I mention RB?

; )

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 10, 2008 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red Bryant
Styg - you failed to mention Red Bryant out of Texas A&M. Is this because you assume he is going in the third round where we currently have no pick or because you dislike his 20 reps or some other reason?

If we trade down and can pick up Rubin in the third and can get Robertson with a fifth or sixth and he restructures, Hell I'll buy FlabroncoFan a new pair of pants.

by firstfan on Apr 10, 2008 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

too high in the third
I have Bryant as my #1 pure run stuffer in the draft, but Rubin should be a better value much later in the third and into the fourth.

If Bryant had better pass rushing skills, he would be a high second round tackle.  As it is he has NO pass rush moves.  But he is a dominating run stuffer.  Basically he struggles in space, for a variety of reasons.

I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 10, 2008 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shanny tends to strike gold in the 4th round...
I hope it turns out to be our 5h rounder. :P

I'll take him if he is less than half what he would be making this year if he stayed with the Jets and if we give up no more than a 5th rounder for him.

I'm just not that big on a guy who never lived up to his #4 pick overall status.  

by Tim Lynch on Apr 10, 2008 2:04 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll believe it when I see it
fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on Apr 10, 2008 2:14 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...
I'll hold off on my opinion until we know the cost of acquiring him.  I have absolutely no problem getting him for a 5th round pick or lower.  I have high hopes for the 4th round this year cough Dexter Jackson cough...

by ejruiz on Apr 10, 2008 2:16 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

cough, I agree, cough
I am not high on Robertson either...in fact I would be high if I was high on Robertson. ;)

by Tim Lynch on Apr 10, 2008 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say get him
We need a DT who can start in week one - pretty bad. Even at the cost of one of our fourth rounders I think it is worth the risk. He even has the potential to be a steal, and a starter for many years to come.

by Jeeeeens on Apr 10, 2008 2:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I want D-Rob and Ellis
Can I be greedy?  Send a fifth and seventh to the Jets for D-Rob.  And offer a 4th this year and a 3rd next year to move up ahead of Cinci from #12 to grab Ellis.  And with that, the defensive line problems are solved.

Grab a WR (or Kenny Phillips if he slips) in the 2nd, an OT and RB with our remaining 4th and 5th round picks, and a P and K with our last two picks.

by MattR on Apr 10, 2008 4:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I would probably need
a new pair of pants if that somehow happened.  I would be etremely overjoyed.

However...... I don't see that as a ver likely scenario... at all :/

"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."

by FlaBroncoFan on Apr 10, 2008 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHY ARE THERE
ALL OF THESE CONCERNS ABOUT BUILDING UP THE DEFENSE WHEN THE OFFENSE IS JUST AS MUCH OF A WRECK AND THE FRANCHISE PLAYER HAS NO SURE FIRE WEAPONS THAN SCHEFFLER?
"Cutler is going to get pounded this year unless we build up the Offense!" -The VillynSun Apr 06, 2008 at 03:10:37 PM EDT

by broncodude793 on Apr 10, 2008 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

After what happened last year,
I could see Shanny going apesh*t drafting a few DT and landing Robertson.  He did something similar after he realized he would never win a Championship with the Browncos.

by Tim Lynch on Apr 10, 2008 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hehehe
Oh boy HT, I can't wait till those articles go up.

Okay, we all know that our biggest needs are on the lines. We have young defensive ends who aven't gotten a fair chance. Bring in Robertson, OK. We're beastly at picking good linemen in the late rounds.

We need a wide receiver more than a rb. Because of the stop gap safeties, it's Hamza evaluating time with kwhatshisface and bailey. This is a developmental season.

With that, wouldn't it be great to have 2 6"5' WRs?  Yea, you know what I'm saying...

"Cutler is going to get pounded this year unless we build up the Offense!" -The VillynSun Apr 06, 2008 at 03:10:37 PM EDT

by broncodude793 on Apr 10, 2008 7:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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