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Bryant Gumbel Out As Play-By-Play Voice For NFLN

Chalk one up for the fans....at last!  While ESPN could obviously care less what we think of the filth they protrude on Monday Night Football, the NFL Network, on the other hand, won't let Thursday Night Football go the same route.  The League and Bryant Gumbel have agreed to part ways after two unlistenable years for Gumbel behind the mic.  Nevermind the fact the Greg's brother had no experience calling sporting events, it appeared all too often to me that Gumbel had just as little experience watching the game as well.

"I thoroughly enjoyed the opportunity to call NFL Network games the past two years, which was a new experience for me," Gumbel said in a statement. "But we've agreed that we'd all be better served going in different directions."

It's the fans that will be better served, better served by someone calling the game of football that knows what the hell football is about.  Gumbel, while thought of a someone knowledgeable about sports, showed his true colors, and folks, they weren't pretty.

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Halleujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the best news I have heard since KU won the title on Monday!

Good Riddance, Bryant.  Dont' let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.  Now if they just get rid of that moron Chris Collinsworth and start with some new faces, maybe the NFLN will have a chance to do well with thier live games.

fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on Apr 11, 2008 10:46 PM MDT reply actions  

For watching tape
the NFLN games are #1 followed closely by NBC Sunday night games.  Both did a great job of showing presnap coverages and left the safeties in the picture instead of centering on the QB.

But you had to mute them.

Next were Fox and CBS who haven't changed their style in years, and have an all around solid package, especially their top games where they get lots of multiple camera angles.

Absolute worst (of course) was ESPN, with their constantly shifting cameras, dramatic 'overhead' spinning looks, and zooming in on the fog coming out of the center's mouth.  When he was on the sideline.  In a cast.  Awful.

Depending on who NFLN gets into the booth, Thursday night might just have more staying power than Monday night football, since they seem to be focusing on having a solid, football-centric spectacle, rather than the multi-billion dollar 'something for everyone" spectacle that ESPN harbors...

I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 11, 2008 10:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Agreed on all
Like you, one of my biggest gripes is not seeing the full view of what both teams are doing.  I've always gauged camera work by the inclusion of the view of safeties.

And of course, I can't understand the fluff that ESPN loves (trying to appeal to people that don't watch football).  Using their reasoning, I should be seeing football plays and discussion of football on the Martha Stewart Channel during interior decorating sessions!  

(disclaimer - the author of this comment does not watch Martha Stewart, nor does he give a rip about interior decorating).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 12, 2008 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

I also hate
How ESPN takes a one sided approach to the games with back stories and trying to make shit dramatic...example our home game against the Packers....I understand that Brett Favre is a good quarterback but god damn showing his wife in the beginning was with that movie looking thing was just too much...Oh and tony kornheiser should stick to PTI i like him better on that show...
Baby TO My new Fav Player

by TommyTSlice on Apr 14, 2008 12:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Something for everyone equals nothing for anybody
MNF is just terrible, I agree.  The problem with ESPN, on an overall level, is that they have too much, and the quality pieces are more than offset by the overabundance of crap.  Ron Jaworski is a quality football analyst, and Tony Kornheiser and Mike Tirico are terrible.  If I were Ron, I'd be pulling what's left of my hair out.

Writing-wise, John Clayton is always solid, and I've liked what I've seen out of Mike Sando.  Jeffri Chadiha, Matt (I forgot I'm not a Cowboys beat writer anymore) Mosley, Pat Yasinskas, Bill Williamson, and all the rest of the columnists wouldn't crack the Top 20 smartest football people at MHR, and they get paid for the crap that they write.  Len Pasquarelli is the worst in the whole industry, with his axe-grinding on behalf of friendly agents who feed him inside information.  It's not even so much the fact that he loathes Mike Shanahan that bothers me, it's just his complete lack of objectivity as a writer.

Worse than the booth crew and the football writers are the studio crews.  I present you the entire list of ESPN football studio commentators whose thoughts have value of any kind:  Tom Jackson, Keyshawn Johnson, Mark Schlereth, and Steve Young.  Chris Berman thinks the league is about him at this point.  I actually complained in writing to the NFL that it was a travesty that they let this clown do his schtick as the MC of the Hall of Fame induction ceremony.  It was just appalling.  Stuart Scott may as well be Berman, Junior.  The rest of them are too bad to mention.  I wouldn't want their reputations to get "debacled" on my account.

I actually do find a good deal of value in the Draft analysis of both Mel Kiper and Todd McShay, so ESPN has that going for it.  Particularly Kiper deserves credit for enduring all the xenophobic criticism from NFL people over the years, and really, his analysis mostly stands the test of time.  A lot of GMs would like to have his record, strange as that may seem.

If ESPN used its massive collection of resources to do more analyzing of the game and presentation of that analysis, things would be great for real fans.  Instead, they try to get more women to watch the game by subjecting real football fans to irrelevant, sideshow crap.  For a network that blew up on smart marketing, ESPN has gotten really bad at it over the years, and they should remember that the most important of the 4 P's is Product.  The Product is football, and no other lame attempts at spectacle need be brought forth in its presence.

"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS

by Ted Bartlett on Apr 12, 2008 1:08 AM MDT reply actions  

Amen Ted
MHR folks never seem to care much for ESPN.  The awful DEN/GB game telecast brought a lot of anger to the fore over the following weeks.

I'll never forget the crew speaking over major plays to get in their questions/comments to Mrs. Favre, and she (to her credit) trying to pause during plays.  And the replaying of that annoying poem, "My Brett, our Favre".  My God; they only mentioned Cutler to compare him to Favre!

Yes, all fluff and a bunch of unintelligable drivel.  But you could also add that the ESPN site has worsened by breaking with internet etiquette, where they choose to hide more and more of their content behind "pay only" links.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 12, 2008 7:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

agree strongly on the "pay only" links
"Insider" is the most overrated and useless tag in sports today.  I have yet to see anything that an "insider" has to say on one of these pay links, that you or I can't find somewhere on the internet if you are willing to dig hard enough.

by tbell61 on Apr 12, 2008 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Insider
is the most overrated piece of crap... i mean besides the crap they write on insider i do get some free epsn magazines but thats all i get with insider
Baby TO My new Fav Player

by TommyTSlice on Apr 14, 2008 12:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

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