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MHR University- Extra Credit Option 5- Safety

Something that the Denver Broncos are facing right now is which of our needs is the greatest? Our horrible Run Defense last year begs a Defensive Tackle, Matt Lepsis' Retirement, asks for an Offensive Tackle, B-Marsh's injury, Walker's defection to the raiders and Rod Smith's "Retirement" demand a Wide Receiver, Signing Boss and K2 are looked at as great but leave us with a Linebacker corps who are all roughly the same age and what are seen as stop gap solutions at Safety mean a little attention there may be required as well. I know I did something similar to this last week but this time I am going to focus more on those five areas. It seems that they are the five we focus most on in our diaries and comments. I want to break down who we have as well as the draft potential at each position. Without further ado......

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Safety-
Our problem at safety isn't as major as other positions. The big thing here is that Hamza is as young as they come for us and he really is all alone. There are a few other guys on the list but for the diary's sake and for the fact that in my opinion these are the only guys we have that will make it out of camp. Marquand Manuel, Hamza Abdullah, John Lynch, Marlon McCree and Steve Cargile are the only guys currently on the roster that will probably move into training camp if we don't draft a safety. If we do I actually vote out Cargile. John Lynch is aging and while still the smartest safety in the league, has problems getting to the ball without early indications such as coming into the box. This leaves us with some stop gap solutions at safety and one young guy who could pan out into a nice safety. So how do we stand:

~Lynch will probably be a Strong Safety on Running downs
~McCree and Abdullah will probably be the other down starters at Safety
~The draft will probably yield us a Safety somewhere

Lynch on running downs is probably where we will see him. I could be wrong but I feel that even Lynch knows the younger guys have gotta play, unless somehow he comes out and dominates with such speed as we haven't seen since his first two years here.
    I say this because we want to sign Abdullah to a long term contract and most people will not consider it as a backup. McCree is a very good Safety comng from a very deep football team. I could see these two as the obvious pre training camp starters. Something could blow people away come training camp and all of a sudden I am wrong.
    I do feel that either CFA's or later round picks will yield us a good safety who can be #6 in the backfield. As it stands we look decent back here but we should be looking to our future as well. After all that now here is the Draft Breakdown:

Safeties:

Kenny Phillips
~Phillips could drop to the second half of the first round. The top-rated safety eligible for the 2008 Draft, Phillips missed a portion of the 2006 season with a broken hand. Managed to pick off four passes in nine games. I think if the Broncos were to trade back and Phillips appeared on the board as the most talented player it would be a shame to see them pass him up for a second or third round offensive lineman.

Josh Barrett
~In a weak strong safety class, Josh Barrett may have vaulted himself over Tom Zbikowski, Craig Steltz and Jamar Adams. A 223-pound safety with a 4.35 40? Amazing. Barrett was benched for a portion of the 2007 campaign, but he regained his job later in the year. A monstrous safety, Barrett is one of the top defensive backs in the Pac 10. He started every game in 2006, notching three picks and 82 tackles. A nice addition to a smaller backfield that the Broncos have played with in the past. Denver would be wise not to pass this young man up if Phillips is not a good pick for them.

Caleb Campbell
~You have to love the speed that comes with Caleb Campbell's size. Given his background (Army), I think we can assume that he has a great work ethic. He also has amazing hands and good leaping ability which is sometimes overlooked in a safety. Coming from a military background his work ethic and team spirit will be some of his prime attributes. As much as I am against military school draftees (mostly it is because they get out of their contract obligations for active duty and go reserve which is kind of a cop out if you sign an active duty contract) I would advocate this guy to be part of our team and he would come with a low 5 or 6 round draft tag

Corey Lynch
~Lynch started 56 career games and recorded 24 interceptions, as he was a key component in Appalachian State's recent playoff success. He's also a nightmare for the opposing team's special-teams coordinator; he has six blocked kicks.

As always the football guys at Walter Football:
http://walterfootball.com/draft2008S.php

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This is a great series. I like your comments on picking Phillips over second or third round OL. How late in the draft do you think we could get Corey Lynch? Wouldn't it be cool to have two Lynches at safety?

by firstfan on Apr 13, 2008 12:44 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

currently
most people project lynch to go in the 5th or 6th round. I am re tooling my mock a little bit and will post what I think we should do this year in the draft and I think a few people might be surprised at some of the guys I pick. Thanks for the compliments. I have always advocated picking the best talent in the first round and addressing need after that but if talent and need coincide then I have no problem picking the guy that is both.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 13, 2008 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lynch
is fifth round and climbing fast....
I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 13, 2008 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Styg
you would know better than I.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 13, 2008 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we are good at SAF for now.
Phillips is the best of the SAFs in the draft this year, but still not the kind of SAF it looks like we could get next year (where SAF is projected to be deeper and better).

I started the reloading season advocating for Phillips, but as time has gone on I've backed off.  Keep in mind too that SAF has always been my favorite position in football.  But several things washed together to change my mind about getting Phillips (I don't change my mind lightly).

  • The deal breaker was that we brought in two players in FA to fill the gap temporarily (McCree and Manuel)
  • After being dangled in restricted FA, it looks like there are no offers for Hamza, and we'll get to keep him
  • Styg pointed out to me some of the stats on Phillips that made him seem a little less impressive
  • Phillips stock in the draft has been dropping
  • Next year's draft looks to have several outstanding SAFs, each of whom looks better than Phillips
  • We have two other needs I rate as critical (DT and WR) and one or two needs that are near critical (on OL).  I would place the DT and WR picks at the top of the draft after we (I hope) trade down the 12th pick.  Then I would take the OL picks.  Assuming at least 2 picks each for DT and WR (to increase our odds of a good selection) and two to three picks for OL, we have 3 or 4 picks left to get whatever is left.  Phillips wouldn't figure in under this scenario.
I'm laying it on thick, but I guess it's because I was pretty high on taking him at first, and when I talked it over with several other MHR folks I began to change my mind.

Hey Jon, our first disagreement!  But your reasoning is sound and valid, and our opinions just differ.  Great diary as always, and I'm loving the series!  Looking forward to more...

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 13, 2008 1:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha disagreements happen.
I don't know that I would push for us to pick up Phillips as much as I would say Campbell or Lynch but I think it would be foolish of us to pass him over if we traded back and he was the top talent on the board. I do agree that it is hard to Change you mind, I think back to teh DJ at Mic disagreements we had a while back but your theories are always sound and thats why I like to have both of our opinions here. mostly I would say pick up a safety later in round 5 or 6 but I would have no problem with us getting Phillips back there.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 13, 2008 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny thing...
I was dead set at keeping Williams at MIKE until 2 things happened:

Getting K2 (I believe in K2),

A phone conversation I had with Guru.

Phillips and moving DJ are the two top things at MHR I've changed my mind on (who says I'm not open minded.  lol)

Styg and a little thinking changed me on Phillips.  However, I can meet you half way.  I wouldn't be at all dissapointed if we got Phillips after trading down.  It wouldn't be my choice, but it's far from being a bad "what the Hell" kind of move either.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 13, 2008 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats my thought too
not a bad pick if we have picked up an extra pick and he is top talent on the board.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 13, 2008 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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