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WR Mario Manningham to Tennessee
The Titans' fans have WR ranked as the most desirable 1st round selection so I was trying to stay in character and represent them appropriately. I sent an email to Guru to take Manningham. Vince Young is the Titans' building block and he really needs some reliable receivers. VY struggled with interceptions so it seemed like getting a WR with excellent hands and smooth route running seemed like the best way to jump start the offense.
I really wanted Sweed because he is also sure handed plus he played with VY at Texas and won a championship. Manningham might have more upside due to his speed, grace and body control. He is very slender, but there are other slender WRs that have made big impacts.
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Clady still a Bronco
This is how the draft went at the WCG site http://www.windycitygridiron.com/.
I really wanted one of the two monster DTs, but trades weren't allowed. Clady would make a great consolation prize at a position of need. I was really glad that 3 CBs and a WR were picked before #12, I didn't think that I had a chance at Clady.
Disregard my comments promoting Harris as the projected LT, the Shanahan press report favoring fellow Alaskan Kuper came out shortly after I made this post. Maybe that is why Shanahan is a Head Coach and I am just a fan!
Ryan Clady, Offensive Tackle, Boise St.
ANALYSIS: The Broncos break tradition by picking an Offensive Lineman in the first round. Not only is this a break with tradition, but this particular lineman is much bigger than the typical Denver lineman, Clady is 6'6" and 315 lbs. The offensive line is getting old and needs young blood. Two starters were on the IR last year, Center Tom Nalen with a torn bicep and LG Ben Hamilton sat out the season with a concussion he suffered in training camp. The RT, Erik Pears, will be a free agent at the end of the 2008 season and the projected LT, Ryan Harris, is unproven. He was a 2007 third round pick who only played on special teams and goal line formations in 2007.
Clady has the mobility and athleticism needed to execute Denver's zone blocking scheme. As an added bonus he is bigger and more powerful than the traditional Denver lineman. He has a small school background, but Boise State was a very successful team. His solid execution of the fundamentals that he has been coached on and his potential for refinement of his technique make him ideally suited to be a big contributer to Denver's run-first offense.
Pro Football Weekly:
"Clady looks every bit the part with a big frame and long arms. The game appears to come easy for him - he's a natural 300-pounder who can bend and adjust - and he is loaded with upside."
Pick
1 Miami Dolphins Jake Long
2 St. Louis Rams Chris Long
3 Atlanta Falcons Glenn Dorsey
4 Oakland Raiders Vernon Gholston
5 Kansas City Chiefs Sedrick Ellis
6 NY Jets Darren McFadden
7 New England Patriots Leodis McKelvin
8 Baltimore Ravens Matt Ryan
9 Cinncinati Bengals Keith Rivers
10 New Orleans Saints Mike Jenkins
11 Buffalo Bills Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
12 Denver Broncos Ryan Clady by Arctic Bronco
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Value for draft picks
How would it benefit the Broncos to move down in the draft? If the players they are targeting in the first round are not available, they might get more value for their pick by trading their 1st rounder for 2nd &/or 3rd round picks. The Broncos have had more success with player development when they have moved around to target specific players in the 1st round such as Moss, Cutler, and D.J. Williams than when they took the best player available (BPA) at a position of need (Nash, Middlebrooks, Lelie, Foster).
2nd round players are usually just as athletically capable as mid to late 1st rounders, they might have dropped due to more questions or playing a position that doesn't have a lot of immediate need for most teams or they have specialized skills that need to be mated up with the right system or salary cap structure.
The positions that Denver needs to get immediate upgrades at via the draft, LB, DT and Safety, in my opinion, usually have a lot of good value in rounds other than the 1st round. For the last 5-6 years, there have been many reaches on DTs (Ryan Sims, Jonathan Sullivan, Ryan Pickett, etc.) due to team needs and the annual shortages of big bodies. Most of the big DTs are difficult to evaluate for several reasons such as: needing more time to grow into their bodies, more time to develop stamina and the difficulty in determining the legitimate need for resting their big bodies versus lack of desire. There were no reaches on DTs during last years 1st round. Usually only 3 to 5 LBs are taken in the first round and since the Broncos won't be competing with teams that use 3-4 defenses for big LBs their chances of getting value in the 2nd round for fast run-containment-system LBs are high. It is rare to see more than 2 safeties drafted in the 1st round, so the chance to get good value in the subsequent rounds is usually not a problem for this position.
The Draft Trade Value Chart from the Great Blue North Draft Report site, http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htm, gives approximate numerical values of picks. Sorry that the chart has some html conversion glitches, for easier viewing check out the GBN site. Keep in mind that this is just a generalization of value, any item's price is ultimately determined by what the individual seller and buyer agree on. An example of that is Denver trading a 2008 3rd round pick to Minnesota for their 2007 4th round pick. That was done to get Marcus Thomas and looks like it was a productive trade.
If Denver finishes in the 17 to 21 range, their pick will have a value of 950 to 800 points. Miami's 2nd and their other 2nd (from San Diego for Chris Chambers) have values of 580 and approximately 420 to 360, based on San Diego finishing within an overall range of 17th to 22nd. The total value of 780 could be spiced up with a late round pick or two. Miami is desperate for immediate help and could probably get better results with another 1st round pick rather than two 2nd rounders and a couple of late rounders. Having three 2nd rounders could bring some really quick talent upgrades to the defense.
What if San Francisco wants to make up for the disastrous trade of their 1st rounder to New England and wants to get value from the pick they got from Indianapolis? The Indy pick will be in the 27 to 31 range (600 to 680), add the SF 3rd rounder at about 245 for a total value of 845 to 925 and you have a deal! A late 1st and an early 3rd might be good fits for the positions of need for Denver and would really create some exciting options.
What are your ideas for the draft, what are your recommendations?
DRAFT TRADE VALUE TABLE
Round 1
# Value Round 2
# Value Round 3
# Value Round 4
# Value Round 5
# Value Round 6
# Value Round 7
# Value
1 3000 33 580 65 266 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14
2 2600 34 570 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 27 194 14
3 2200 35 560 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26 195 13
4 1800 36 550 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 26 196 13
5 1700 37 540 69 245 101 96 133 40 165 25 197 13
6 1600 38 530 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12
7 1500 39 520 71 235 103 88 135 39 167 25 199 12
8 1400 40 510 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24 200 11
9 1350 41 500 73 225 105 84 137 38 169 24 201 11
10 1300 42 490 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23 202 11
11 1250 43 480 75 215 107 80 139 37 171 23 203 10
12 1200 44 470 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 23 204 10
13 1150 45 460 77 205 109 76 141 36 173 22 205 9
14 1100 46 450 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 22 206 9
15 1050 47 440 79 195 111 72 143 35 175 21 207 9
16 1000 48 430 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8
17 950 49 420 81 185 113 68 145 34 177 21 209 8
18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20 210 7
19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 33 179 20 211 7
20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32 180 19 212 7
21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 32 181 19 213 6
22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31 182 19 214 6
23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18 215 5
24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 31 184 18 216 5
25 720 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30 185 17 217 5
26 700 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 30 186 17 218 4
27 680 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29 187 17 219 4
28 660 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16 220 3
29 640 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 29 189 16 221 3
30 620 62 286 94 124 126 46 158 28 190 15 222 3
31 600 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 28 191 15 223 2
32 590 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27 192 15 224 2
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